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Thoughts 20 Mar 2018, 03:44


I know from experience the strong pull which is leading you to go down the path you choose both in wanting strong glasses and prisms. It will give you a lot of pleasure and whilst you may never return to sight you had the warnings given in good faith may not come about. Each person is different. In my case I have done goc to -20 and used base out to10 over many years and can still have an eye test and only need part time wear.

Food for thought but wish you well. I felt excitement from your latest result so wish you continued luck if that is what you desire

Alan 20 Mar 2018, 01:12


Have you been experimenting with prisms over the past month? Also, what is your new prescription? Let us know how you get on with the new glasses

Soundmanpt 19 Mar 2018, 22:35


Glad to hear form you again. The main thing not only with you but with everyone else in here is for them to fully understand what they are doing when they are doing GOC or trying to induce myopia or if they are wanting to go even further with things such as strabismus. These are big decisions and should be thought out before doing anything. It's doubtful that your going to be able to induce enough myopia to the point where you will ever need myodiscs except with the use of GOC. But you should still be able to induce enough myopia to cause your vision to be pretty blurry without glasses. It takes far less time for your eyes to become very dependent on your glasses when you include prisms in your glasses. Apparently you are already seeing the results of wearing prisms if your starting to see double already. The only one that needs to be happy with your decision to ruin your eyes is you and if your happy that is the main thing. Just remember their is no do over now. Your going to be wearing glasses and only glasses from now until you die. Please continue to give updates as to your progress. What prescription were you given at your eye exam? I assume that you went for your eye exam bare eyed?

sebas25 19 Mar 2018, 17:35


I'm also going to start using prism.

Are you using prima in or prism out ??

and what power?


Soundmanpt 18 Mar 2018, 07:39


I have a feeling that you will do well with any interviews you do. You seem like you're on top of things pretty well and determined about the things you want from life. You clearly think things through. So wearing glasses to interviews will just be that little extra for you to show your professional look.

I will be looking forward to your return to this forum but you're right in wanting get other things taken care of with your life besides working so hard in making yourself more nearsighted. And by continuing to wear over correction and doing even more reading and close work should help with that as well. I will look forward to hearing of any changes you may notice with your eyes in the coming days and weeks. I of course wish you the best with everything and take care.

WantMyos 18 Mar 2018, 07:34

Hello gang,

I am back with an update that may upset a few of you. I went through with GOC, but still really wanted to induce some myopia, so i decided I would go through with inducing myopia, and then maybe start GOC after I get to how much myopia I want, I am also inducing strabismus, I could not resist. I really want prism glasses, but more than that I want to see double just as I want to see blurry images and want to really need my glasses to help me see clear.

I know a few of you talked against inducing strabismus, and I tried, but I could not stay away. This is something I really want.

Anyways, the reason for the update, I had my regular appointment with the family eye doctor and I am ecstatic to say, my prescription has gone up!!! Also, after doing a long test where the doctor kept covering and uncovering my eyes and then covering and uncovering one eye with a stick if prisms infront of the other eye she told me that I did have problems with both of my eyes working together, and that it was causing the double vision!!!!!

I cannot express how great that felt. It was seriously a dream come true!

denden 17 Mar 2018, 07:18


Thank you for the advice! I will wear my glasses to the interview. I'm not the superstitious kind but I can think of it as my lucky charm haha.

I will be taking some time off this forum because I have way too many things going on at the moment. I'm trying to get my life back in order regarding my education, job prospects and overall health. I procrastinate too much so I need to minimise distractions.

Don't worry; I am still wearing my overcorrection religiously! I am hoping that extended hours of studying I am about to do will aid me even further. I will keep you updated if anything important happens.

Soundmanpt 15 Mar 2018, 10:36


Your new glasses sound really cute and i'm sure you look very attractive wearing them. Sometimes going away from your comfort zone opens your eyes to something new and exciting. Going with black or tortoise is often the safe choice for getting glasses because they go with everything but other choices can work well too.

If you're not going home for a month then go ahead and start wearing your glasses so your eyes can continue to adjust to them. Wearing contacts for the week that you're going to be home shouldn't be a problem by then with going back to your glasses. I don't think in that short of time of not wearing your glasses will cause you much if any problem readjusting to your glasses. Now if you were able to wear your contacts during then day while at home and switch to your glasses at night before going to bed then you for sure wouldn't have any adjusting to worry about. But i'm sure that's not possible and you really don't want any unnecessary conflict with your mom about your wearing glasses. When you were in high school and doing GOC your glasses were weaker and you probably weren't wearing your contacts full time like you are now.

You have several options really. But there have been studies done which proves that wearing glasses is an advantage over those not wearing glasses when all other things are equal. So without a doubt you should be wearing glasses for any job interview you go on. Now it is up to you which glasses you want to wear. You haven't said exactly what your other glasses look like but I assume they might be black or tortoise. If you feel like you look more professional wearing glasses like that then why not wear a pair of your extended contacts along with those glasses. But if you think you look just as nice and professional wearing your new blue glasses then wear them. Either way as long as your wearing glasses I don't think it will make any difference what color they are to the person doing the interview. You're for sure going to look smarter wearing glasses.

denden 15 Mar 2018, 09:34


Aesthetically I LOVE my new pair! I got a blue frame this time which was somewhat out of my comfort zone but now I'm really glad that I did.

If I used mainly glasses until my visit home (which is a month from now) and then wore contacts continuously for a week, will I start from square one when I put on my glasses after that?

I'm already noticing the fisheye effect less. Now I understand why many of my genuinely myopic friends prefer wearing contacts - it must be annoying to have to see like this all the time.However, I wasn't experiencing this with my -1.25 -1.75 glasses back in high school.

I have an important job interview soon and I'm debating whether I should wear glasses or contacts that day. It's a professional services firm and I figure glasses may make me look smarter. On the other hand, my frames are blue, not the usual conservative black or tortoise. My friends say they will make me stand out in a good way. What do you think? (My mom is my usual style adviser but I'm not asking her about this because she is heavily biased against glasses.)

Soundmanpt 15 Mar 2018, 09:12


I'm sure you probably used the right PD and even being slightly off wouldn't cause that. I have heard this same complaint from people that are wearing their actual prescription. What your eyes are seeing is the difference between seeing with contacts and glasses. I can't explain it but it's the difference between having lenses sitting on your corneas and glasses sitting slightly in front of you eyes. Their seeing the inside curvature of the lenses of your glasses. You just didn't get the same effect from your weaker glasses because the curvature wasn't as much. Your eyes just need to adjust to your glasses. But if going home soon and your not going to be able to wear your glasses anyway then i would suggest that you just continue wearing your extended wear contacts with and without your weaker glasses until you get back from your visit home. No point making your eyes have to adjust 2 times to your glasses. Otherwise are yo happy with the way your new glasses look? I know you didn't like the first pair you got and you returned them for this pair.

GreginColo 14 Mar 2018, 18:01

Ben; if you are in the US, a shipment from Zenni should arrive within a week, at least that was my experience. But if you are looking on their site, they can probably give you a more exact shipping time estimate.

Ben Victor 14 Mar 2018, 17:16

Gregin Colo

For How long do i have to wait to get a new frame if i did order one? :(

Ben Victor 14 Mar 2018, 17:13


I now have a stronger prescription, -10.0D.

My former prescription's -5.50D.

But I just need a new frame :(

Ben Victor 14 Mar 2018, 17:09

Gregin Colo

Hmm... :/

denden 14 Mar 2018, 15:45


My glasses aren't that strong tho, -2.75 and -3.25. Would higher index lenses reduce this effect?

 14 Mar 2018, 14:50


That is normal with higher prescriptions. But your brain will get used to it soon and you won't notice the "curve" effect anymore.

Jared 14 Mar 2018, 07:43


Good to hear!!!!!! Keep it up;-)


denden 14 Mar 2018, 06:51

I got my new pair today! But I feel dizzy when I have them on :( In a way everything looked curved and this effect is amplified if I turn my head around. Even my laptop looks like it has a curved shape. Is this how people with higher prescriptions see, or is it because they are overly minused for my eyes? Or could it be that I measured my PD wrong?

Liam 14 Mar 2018, 06:27

Ben, are you looking for stronger glasses?

Liam 14 Mar 2018, 06:26

Jared, I am studying hard for some exams and really pushing my eyes to read close up. It is easier this week but still a strain at times. I am holding my written work as close as I can. Distance is now fine with the -22 glasses, I think all the close work has helped in that respect.

GreginColo 14 Mar 2018, 05:36

Ben, I have had good luck with Zenni optical.

Ben Victor 14 Mar 2018, 01:01

Ben Victor 14 Mar 2018, 01:00

Hi everyone. I've got a question - which is the best website to order prescription glasses online? Thanks for your response(s) in anticipation. :)

Ben Victor 14 Mar 2018, 01:00

Hi everyone. I've got a question - which is the best website to order prescription glasses? Thanks for your response(s) in anticipation. :)

Jared 13 Mar 2018, 17:23


Hi. Just wondering how you were doing with your -22's. Has reading and close work improved?

denden 13 Mar 2018, 12:08


I was doing GOC in 9th grade, so when I was 15-16. When my mom found my contacts I said they were minus lenses of course. She is also against the idea of wearing correction, even in the form of contacts. I don't think I can change her opinions so my solution is to refrain from putting my specs on around her if I can avoid it.

Haha nice try with the guy in high school but we never kissed. He was quite good looking so I wouldn't have minded it back then, but no. He just seemed to understand optics well. I had a highly hyperopic friend (R +3.50 L +5.50) and he kept saying that her glasses had a magnifying effect. He was correct but this made her self-conscious as plus lenses are often associated with old people. He also often changed his frames and frequently switched between glasses and contacts. Nowadays I think he's wearing contacts only.

He was standing a talking distance from me when he noticed my contacts, around half a meter I'd say. I'm not surprised that he noticed them because I can also spot them quite well. In particular, if I meet someone for the first time, I tend to pay close attention to their eyes. Eyes are the windows to the soul, as the old adage goes, you can learn so many things about someone just by looking at their eyes. Among other things (ability to maintain eye contact, wrinkles around eyes, dark circles, the shape and colour) I also pay attention to whether they need correction to see clearly. I'm a highly attentive person and I can remember many details about the people I've met.

Soundmanpt 13 Mar 2018, 09:54


I totally get your point and you're right if they are just wanting to be able to wear the strongest glasses possible but their eyes can see close up with such strong glasses then the idea of bifocals is the answer for them. But if they are trying to induce myopia then they need their glasses to feel too strong for seeing close up. The more they are forcing their eyes to read small print the harder their eyes are working to focus. This is a big asset in helping them induce myopia. If their eyes are completely comfortable with reading small print then they need to change to stronger glasses.

daffy 13 Mar 2018, 05:04

Of all the people that complain that they can't see close with their over correction for distance, why not just get bifocals or multifocals and live happily ever after?

Soundmanpt 12 Mar 2018, 17:20


Well i'm happy to be back. What a pain! I have been busy with moving furniture back and forth since last Tuesday morning. Now my friend just came and hooked up my computer for me.

Probably getting the "EyeQue" would be a good ides for you as well MROP and kiki to keep track of your progress. Here in the US insurance will only pay for one eye exam a year out of pocket an eye exam can cost around $75.00 $80.00 depending where you go. From reports I have seen it seems to work pretty well. It must work since it came out they have raised the price of it slightly.

Not surprising, you're already ahead of me again by wearing a stronger contact on your better eye to try a weaken it a bit more. That should start to help I would think. You want it to be about as blurry as your other eye is.

So what year of high school were you in when you started wearing glasses and then glasses and contacts? When your mom found your contact lens case what did you say when she asked you about it? i'm sure that you didn't tell her that your were doing GOC? You should have just said that a friend let you try a pair of contacts just to see if you liked them or not so you maybe start wearing contacts instead of glasses. Since she didn't like seeing you wearing glasses she might have gone along on that idea. You're mom is old school. Back in her day when she was your age it was still sort of a kiss of death for a young girl to start wearing glasses because the chances of that girl finding her prince charming was pretty much out the window because of her less than perfect eyesight. But as you know, it's a much different world now nearly everyone wears glasses, or contacts, now. Many men prefer the young glasses wearing ladies now because they are not only attractive but also appear smarter as well. But I agree with you for now any visits home there is no point point in causing any problems about your wearing glasses or not. You can save that battle for when you start wearing your glasses full time. You're still in school so you blame all the extra studying on your need for wearing glasses full time. She won't like it but as you say there isn't much she can do about it. After all your not a teenager anymore, your an adult.

That boy that spotted the fact that your were wearing contacts back in high school, how close did he get to you to see the rings of your contacts? Have you ever tried to spot people wearing contacts? It's really hard and you usually have get extremely close in order to see them. So either this guy was in love with your eyes that he was looking so hard at them or he was "kissing " close and you kept your eyes open. Whenever possible if you're afraid of that ever happening again you should try and come up with a nice strong combination of glasses and contacts. If your wearing glasses it makes it even more difficult to see contacts in your eyes.

Soundmanpt 12 Mar 2018, 16:32


Honestly I think it is nearly impossible to do much fooling of an optometrists and really what doe that really do anyway? You're already "cheating" by wearing wearing -4.50 / -4.75 glasses that you don't seem to have any real need for. You're better off just getting your eyes checked when you think there has been some change in your eyesight. If you still feel like your eyesight is perfect without glasses I don't see nay point in getting your eyes rested now.

When you have done your closing one eye at a time test while driving were you wearing your glasses or was this without your glasses? I'm not sure sure why things are blurry with just one eye at time being open, but not blurry with both eyes open. For some reason your eyes aren't able to focus independently. it has to mean wearing over correction is having some effect on your eyes. How bad is the blur? I mean is it maybe about -2.00 or worse?

 10 Mar 2018, 19:32


If you are approaching 40, it is likely that Presbyopia is creeping up on you. Prism will not help that.

What is happening to you, as it has with billions and billions before you, is that the focusing mechanism in your eyes is aging also. The primary problem is that the variable focus lenses in your eyes are getting stiff and very hard for your focusing muscles to change their power. By the way, this stiffening action has been occurring for probably the last 30 years, but it is just now becoming a nuisance. The bad news is that it will get worse. The good news is that there is a limit to how bad it will get.

What WILL help you are some reading glasses either in the form of Over-the-Counter (OTC) Reading Glasses or if appropriate, prescription bifocals. Many stores sell OTC Reading Glasses. I suggest starting with the lowest power they offer (usually +1.00 or +1.25) and see how those help.

If you have not had one recently, you should also consider an eye exam. The eyes are windows into the body and often silent health problems are detected during an eye exam that have no direct effect on vision.


jared 10 Mar 2018, 16:45


Kewl. see you then!

Loveminusguys 10 Mar 2018, 16:41

Thanks Jared, that would be 11 am my time. Letís give it a try.

Jared 10 Mar 2018, 12:39


Eastern time zone. Don't forget clocks ahead this evening so how about 1PM EDT?

Loveminusguys 10 Mar 2018, 11:49

Thanks Jared, would also love to connect. I have not been on LCin ages so would probably have to reactivate. Today is already full for me but maybe tomorrow. What time zone are you in and is there any particular time that you are on LC. Thanks

Jared 10 Mar 2018, 11:17


Do you ever visit ES Lens chat? Would love to connect with you there.

spartoo 10 Mar 2018, 10:39

Hello, I understand that the port of prism base out, could help when you wear too much over-correction in myopia?

I approach 40 years and with my over-correction I have difficulty reading closely if it is written too small. Could the port of prism help me?

Loveminusguys 10 Mar 2018, 08:53

Jared, thanks for your post. So I presume you are a real -31 and enjoy that Rx. For those of us who are envious of that type of Rx, if you are open to such, please share a bit of your visual history and what it is like to live on a daily basis with that degree of myopia. Thanks

Liam 10 Mar 2018, 05:23

I really don't know what would happen if I took the glasses off. How long would it take for my vision to change? Would I easily return to being able to wear -22 glasses?

Yes Jared it would be great if I was now myopic.

Jared 09 Mar 2018, 18:21


Wouldn't it be awesome, if with all your work, you have made your eyes extremely myopic and really needed double digit lenses?

Liam 09 Mar 2018, 11:34

Jared I a am not sure how long it would take my eyes to see without the -22 glasses. It has taken a lot of hard work to get this far and I am worried that I could undo all that work quickly. For that reason I do not try to see without glasses. Yes I carry a spare pair. Friends try them on and if I need to clean glasses I simply swap quickly with my eyes shut. I am kind of neurotic about it.

Kiki 09 Mar 2018, 10:37

I just ordered from EyeQue!

Jared 09 Mar 2018, 10:12


I have a minus Rx higher than yours actually -31. Like you I wear my glasses 24/7 but for an entirely difference reason although I fully understand why you do as I would absolutely hate to wake up some morning and be able to see without my strong glasses. Weird I know but on this site and thread amongst friends and really "preaching to the choir".

I have a couple of questions which I hope you don't find too personal. Do you carry spares (I do) and when you clean your glasses do put others on and when out with friends and they ask to try your glasses do you let them and if so close you eyes whilst they try them on?

BTW Hope you adapt to the -22s.

Jared 09 Mar 2018, 10:12


I have a minus Rx higher than yours actually -31. Like you I wear my glasses 24/7 but for an entirely difference reason although I fully understand why you do as I would absolutely hate to wake up some morning and be able to see without my strong glasses. Weird I know but on this site and thread amongst friends and really "preaching to the choir".

I have a couple of questions which I hope you don't find too personal. Do you carry spares (I do) and when you clean your glasses do put others on and when out with friends and they ask to try your glasses do you let them and if so close you eyes whilst they try them on?

BTW Hope you adapt to the -22s.

denden 09 Mar 2018, 06:08

Has anyone here heard of EyeQue? It's a miniscope that allows an app on your smartphone to detect the refraction of your eye. I am considering to order a kit so that I can track my progress on my phone without tedious visits to the optometrist.

Ben Victor 07 Mar 2018, 15:14


Thanks so much! I'll keep them -10.0Ds on all the time. :)

Kiki 07 Mar 2018, 12:32

I couldnít fall asleep last night and my mind wandered to the possibilities of ďcheatingĒ on an eye exam. So for myself when I close one eye I can make it very blurry but I cannot do them simultaneously. I am wondering if the autorefractor would indicate a prescription. I wish I had about $5000 to buy one to play with. Another random thought.. I wear -4.50 and -4.75 but do not require glasses at all. How come when Iím driving I can close one eye and itís blurry and I can close the other eye with the same result but with both eyes open the blur is gone?

denden 07 Mar 2018, 02:19


Great to hear back from you! Hope you enjoy your holiday. When is your next appointment? Are you wearing your overcorrection at the moment?


Sorry I missed you last night, I went to sleep straight after posting here.

MROP 07 Mar 2018, 01:12

Why everyone, Iím on holiday so sorry for delays. I havenít been playing you, likelenses, just unable to find Internet.

Iíll update you all properly on my exam when I get back. Basically they rang me and cancelled due to weather (the same snow storms that Denden mentioned) but itís rescheduled for when I get back!

 07 Mar 2018, 01:08

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