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Cactus Jack 17 Jan 2017, 23:44

Zack,

Yes, reading and close work with your glasses or contacts help the process. Normally, the Ciliary Muscles and Crystalline Lenses are fully relaxed with the minimum Plus power for distance. However, your Crystalline Lenses are NOT at Zero Power when fully relaxed. They are probably around +16 or so. If your distance vision is or is corrected to 0.00, your Ciliary Muscles squeeze your Crystalline Lenses to increase their PLUS power to focus closer than technically "infinity", but for practical purposes 20 feet of 6 meters. The amount of increase is determined by the laws of Optical Physics as codified by Sir Isaac Newton bit over 300 years ago.

In your situation, when you wear more MINUS than you actually need, your Ciliary Muscles squeeze your Crystalline Lenses and add enough PLUS to compensate for the excess MINUS in your contacts or glasses. Then when you read or focus closer than 20 feet or 6 meters, your Ciliary Muscles squeeze some more to enable you to focus close with your contacts or glasses.

If you have ever done any photography, you will understand the similarity between the pupils of your eyes and the Iris in a camera lens. Both control the amount of light striking the Retina, Film or Digital Sensor. In low light both are opened up, in bright light both are closed down to reduce the size of the aperture to control the light. There is a secondary optical effect of closing down or opening up the aperture. It changes the depth of field or range of useful focus. If you are in bright light and close down the aperture enough, everything from near to far will be in focus. If you open up the apertures to maximum in low light only those objects that are near the exact focus distance will be in focus.

When you do the refraction test, try not to do it in very bright light. It will give you truer readings.

You might find this paper informative about how your eyes work. I think you will be surprised.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/scenario/labman3/eye.htm

Two important things to remember: 1. keep the pressure on was much as possible and 2. Nothing happens fast.

One other thing, I don't think you need to consider Gas Permeable Hard Contacts. I don't think you have enough Astigmatism to justify the hassle and expense.

May I invite you to contact me at cactusjack1928@hotmail.com.

C.


Zack 17 Jan 2017, 19:58

Cactus Jack,

Yes that was without glasses or contacts. I am happy I am making any sort of progress even if minute.

I see what you are saying about the eye, I didn't really know that much about astigmatism before now but it makes sense to me now, it's pretty interesting.

I wear soft contact lenses and they are sphere only. They did not bump my prescription up because of my astigmatism as my contacts prescription is currently -2.5, which is the same as the sphere value of my left eye.

Tomorrow after wearing my -6 contacts to my classes, I will test myself again right after I take my contacts out.

Also will reading books and my computer while really close (with my glasses or contacts on of course) help with the process at all? That's what I have been doing and I feel like it is helping but I am not 100% sure.

Thanks again!

Zack


Cactus Jack 17 Jan 2017, 19:19

Zack,

Was that without contacts or glasses? It seems like you are making some progress. Your astigmatism confuses the issue a little because without correction, you are

OD -2.25 in the 25 degree Axis and -2.75 in the 115 degree Axis

OS -2.50 in the 180 degree Axis (Horizontal) and -3.00 in the 90 degree Axis

I know that sounds weird, but Axis direction is the Long Axis of - Cylinder. Think of the shape of your Cornea as a section from he side of an American Football. The Long Axis has a very shallow curve and the Short Axis is at a right angle (90 degrees) to the Long Axis is steeper and therefore has a bit more Plus power than than in the Long Axis.

You may have to read that and think about it for a bit and recall that corrective lenses neutralize or cancel out actual refractive errors.

Do you normally wear Toric Contact Lenses or Sphere only? For mild Astigmatism, 1/2 the Cylinder is often algebraically added to the Sphere and Sphere only Contacts are prescribed. That usually gives satisfactory vision and avoids the cost and hassle of getting Toric Contacts to stay correctly oriented on the Cornea.

I would like to ask you to do the test again after you have worn your -6 contacts for an extended period, Immediately after you take your contacts out.

Don't get discouraged if it is about the same or just a little closer. I will explain why after your report.

C.


Zack 17 Jan 2017, 18:54

Cactus Jack,

My last prescription from last August was

OD -2.25 Cyl -.5 Axis 025,

OS -2.5 Cyl -.5 Axis 180.

My vision was kind of fuzzy after my last examination because my ECP decided to not bump up my prescription anymore because the 20/20 line she showed me was blurry but just visible enough that I could read it. I should have spoken up in hindsight and said that it was not good.

In the past few years my cyl values have stayed the same and have not changed. Only the sphere values have changed.

I have completed the test,

For my right eye (OD), I got the numbers 33 cm, 33 cm, 33 cm, which averaged out to 33.

Then I took it and divided 100 cm / 33 cm and got 3.03.

For my left eye (OS), I got the numbers 30 cm, 31 cm, and 29 cm, which averaged out to 30 cm.

Then I took it and divided 100 cm / 30 cm and got 3.33.

I just woke up because I was tired so I was not awake for more than 10 or so minutes before taking this test.


Cactus Jack 17 Jan 2017, 15:53

Zack,

I really need your last complete prescription before suggesting a strategy. I am particularly interested in any Cylinder and Axis numbers for correcting Astigmatism.

There is a very simple test you can do to get an approximate indication of your refractive error. You will need a book or newspaper (target) with normal sized print, a tape measure, and you may need some OTC reading glasses to get the distances involved into a useful range. This test can be done at any time of day, but it may be more indicative of your true prescription if done first thing in the morning BEFORE you put on glasses or insert contacts.

1. Hold the target at a distance where you can see the text clearly. Close one eye.

2. Gradually move the target away from you face until the text just becomes fuzzy.

3. Measure the distance.

4. Do steps 1 thru 3, three times and average the distance for each eye individually.

5. Divide the average distance into 1 meter (100 cm or 39.37 inches).

Note: If the distance is inconveniently far for the length of your arms, you can create some artificial Myopia by using OTC Plus Reading glasses. You want to use the minimum Plus to get the blur point distance to about 50 to 66 cm or 20 to 26 inches. You will need to adjust the calculated prescription for the supplemental Plus.

If you don't understand how the test works or need help, let me know and also let me know the numbers you get.

The result is inverse of your approximate prescription. Here is an example of how it works. Lets say that you do the above test and the text gets fuzzy at 20 inches (50 cm). Sir Isaac Newton's formula for calculating lens power vs focal distance is 1 meter / Focal Distance = Lens Power in Diopters. 39.39/ 20 inches = 1.96 or +2.00. That is your refractive error. The corrective lenses would be -2.00.

If you need to move the blur point outward you can do the test with low power minus glasses. You might try the test with low power contacts or glasses.

I need some of the above test results before I can help you develop an exam strategy. In your situation, it is easy when you understand the principles.

C.


Zack 17 Jan 2017, 06:23

Cactus Jack,

You suggested that I create a strategy for my next eye exam,

How long should I wait or when should I decide on going in for another eye exam? My last one was in August.

Also are there any tips or tricks I should know before going into an exam?

I would also like to ask if there are any tests I could be doing to check my progress and how often should I do these tests? I am interested in keeping track of my progression.

Thank you very much for your help,

Zack


Zack 16 Jan 2017, 15:29

Iain,

Thank you for the information, I will look into those sites when I get home and see if they will ship to the US.

Zack


Iain 16 Jan 2017, 15:09

Zach,

Usually Fluoroperm

Try lensway or lenscatalogue here in UK, not sure they post to US

Iain


Zack 16 Jan 2017, 14:50

Iain and Cactus Jack,

Thank you both for the encouraging words and for sharing your stories! It gives me hope that I can possibly induce or even wear high prescriptions full time.

I would preferably get up to -12 or maybe even more, but I set my main goal at -6 or -8 as I do not know how much I will truly be able to truly induce as it can be unpredictable and like Cactus said it is up to my genes.

Even if I do not induce to that high of a prescription, it would still be cool to wear any of those prescriptions full time.

I would like to try and buy some gas permeable contacts as my next pair because I have been reading up on them and they sound nice. Iain, do you have any brand you could recommend and also a website where I could get them from? I don't think the website I usually buy contacts from sells gas permeable contacts, and I am having trouble finding a website that sells gas permeable contacts without a prescription.

Thank you both so much!


Iain 16 Jan 2017, 14:12

Cactus Jack,

That's very encouraging about the guy you helped. Come Easter I will have increased my cls Rx by -12. Was he able to maintain his new vision? Do you think I will be able to continue beyond -12 cls? I would like to go as far as I can.

My future beyond uni is unclear. More study is a possibility but I want to travel as well. I will be 21 in August so wish to explore. Travelling will complicate my induced myopia regime. Is it better to continue with youth on my side?

Zack you are doing great. Cactus is very encouraging. How high do you wish to go? Gas permeable have suited me, I get a new Rx every four months. I think my eyes have adapted so well as they do not get a chance to be without correction.


Zack 16 Jan 2017, 11:47

Cactus Jack,

That's amazing! I could only hope to get to that point eventually, but I will have to work up to it overtime. I have -13 glasses and I have worn them a bit around the house and I could see well with them in bright light but not perfectly in dim light, also my eyes would defocus for a few seconds every half hour or so when I was wearing them.

And I forgot about that, I guess I have never thought of sleeping that way, I will still try to be as careful as possible and wear my contacts or glasses from waking up to going to sleep at night. I just want to have as much stress on my eyes as possible.

Is there anything else I should be doing to make sure my ciliary muscles become as strong as possible, like reading for a long period of time and getting real close to the page?


Cactus Jack 16 Jan 2017, 11:03

Zack and Iain,

A few minutes without your glasses or contacts won't make any difference in your efforts. Your Ciliary Muscles get to relax for several hours while you sleep. The key to Inducing Myopia is the strength of your Ciliary Muscles. For their size, they are normally the strongest muscles in the body. Your efforts just make them stronger. The young man I mentioned had to get occasional dilated exams to gauge his progress. His goal was to flunk the "official" mandatory military service eye exam where they used a very strong dilating agent. Probably Atropine. Most ECPs use dilating agents for "wet" exams that wear off in a few hours.

C.


Cactus Jack 16 Jan 2017, 10:52

Zack and Iain,

Several years ago, I worked with a VERY highly motivated young man in his late 20s who needed to be substantially more myopic than he was (about -4). He ultimately was able to wear -20 glasses while studying to pass the TOEFL exam.

If you do the Vertex Distance math, -20 glasses are effectively -16 at the Cornea so he was able to focus to read with 12 diopters of over correction. Because of his age, it was mostly Pseudo Myopia with only a bit over -1 of additional Axial Myopia, but the important thing is that it worked for his purposes.

Because you started at a younger age, it is possible that you will develop more Axial Myopia, but your genes are in the "driver's seat". It does not really matter which type of Myopia you develop as long as you understand the difference and that Pseudo Myopia needs maintenance. Maintenance is more important when you are young because your Crystalline Lenses are still very flexible and your Ciliary Muscles will relax fairly quickly. However, the most important thing that happens is that your Ciliary Muscles get very strong and are able to deal with the additional minus in your glasses very quickly.

C.


Zack 16 Jan 2017, 10:41

Also,

I have been very careful to not see without glasses or contacts too. Most of the time I take my contacts out in before a shower and immediately close my eyes. I don't open them until I am out and my contacts are back in.

Iain,

Right now I use extended wear contacts (Pure Vision), do you think I should switch to gas permeable ones? I only have one more -6 contact and I just put in a new monthly pair today, so I need to buy more -6 contacts. If so, any suggestions on brands or where to get them?

Thank you both Cactus Jack and Iain.


Zack 16 Jan 2017, 10:16

Cactus Jack,

Sounds like a plan, I will stay with my -6 contacts until the blur is completely gone in the dark, and then I will begin to move up in increments like Iain. Other than the small blur in the dark (things like the time on my phone are a bit fuzzy when the screen is dim) my vision is really good with these contacts and glasses. After the blur is gone, I will move to -7 contacts and -7.75 glasses.

1. I live in New York and I live off campus in my own apartment away from my family.

2. My favorite subjects are history and science, however I am in school for Computers as the subject also interests me.

3. My last eye exam was in August.

I work and therefore I have the money to go in for eye exams whenever I want as I have a pretty good amount of expendable income.

My ECP is back at home which I am only at during the summer and holidays, and therefore I have not gone to an eye doctor here at school and I have many doctors to choose from.

Iain,

That's very cool, I would like to be able to build up wearing stronger glasses to my family so they notice my vision getting worse so it's no shocker as the glasses get stronger. I will probably try to move in increments like you, every few months I will increase as long as I have accommodated appropriately by then. I am only in my second year of college and I am double majoring so I have 2 maybe 3 more years ahead of me.


Iain 16 Jan 2017, 07:25

Zach like you I have been intent on getting a myopic Rx.

I started slowly and have built up over my years at uni. I came to uni aged 17 in Sept 13 with glasses and cls -1.

Three times a year I increase the cls Rx by -1. Towards the end of my second year the glasses Rx was higher than cls.

I use gas permeable cls and wear them all day generally only taking them out once per week when I clean them and wear glasses. I am very careful not to experience any vision without either cls of glasses.

My 4 year course ends this year. Last Aug the cls increased to -10 and glasses -11.5, I got my first myodisc glasses. As a Maths student I devised a rigid plan to increase my Rx. Last week I changed to -11 cls and -13 myos. It costs me a lot and I have worked throughtout uni to support my ambition.

When I leave I want to be wearing -15 glasses for my graduation photo. I deliberately wear glasses when with friends and family and they know my Rx is increasing.

I don't know how high I can go. The past two increases have taken a while to get used to. With each change distance is ok I need to work on close up. Immediately after an increase I can read in bright light only and over the days/weeks I force myself to bring the work closer to my eyes. This present increase is still being worked on.

Is this a permanent change? I would love to know but dare not test it. I have worked so hard to get this far I am happy that I can see with myos.


Cactus Jack 16 Jan 2017, 05:46

Zack,

Sounds like you need to slow down a little on the increases if you are noticing some blurr on your phone. Right now, you are using your Ciliary Muscles to compensate for the extra minus in your contacts. As an FYI, your -7.00 glasses have approximately the same optical effect as -6.50 contacts because of Vertex Distance effects in the glasses.

When you read with the -6 contacts at typical reading distances of about 14 inches or 36 cm, your Ciliary Muscles are having to add an additional +2.75. At typical smart phone distances, I would estimate as much as +3.50. In dim light, your pupils open and your range of useful focus decreases. It works like the f stop on a high end camera lens where the phenomenon is called "Depth of Field".

I would suggest staying with the -6 contacts or the -7 glasses until you don't have any problems reading text on your phone and then increasing in no more than -1 increments.

May I as a few questions?

1. Where do you live?

2. What are the subjects you like best in school?

3. When was your last eye exam?

You need to start thinking of the strategy for your next eye exam. At some point, you will need to get an eye exam to judge how effective your program has been. However, you should NOT go back to the ECP where you got your last exam. At your age, really significant increases in Myopia, typically don't happen naturally.

C.


Zack 16 Jan 2017, 01:28

Hi, I would like to start inducing some myopia. Preferrably my prescription would reach -6 or -8 or more, but I would really enjoy any increase.

I am 19 years old and in school at the moment.

At the moment my prescription is at OD -2.25 and OS -2.5.

I wear contacts primarily but I do have a pair of glasses. I first conditioned myself by putting my -2 glasses over my -2 contacts, which I was able to get used to quite quickly. I then ordered contacts in -6. I have been wearing -6 contacts for the last week and everything is perfectly clear at this point with no issues other than slight blur on my phone when it is dark or dim. I have been wearing them all day everyday for the most part as they are extended wear ones, but I do usually take them out at night. I also have some OD -7 and OS -7.25 glasses that I have been wearing while my contacts are out at night before bed.

I am wondering what kind of steps I should be taking with my prescriptions in the future and how large (as in, what increments and how often). I have read up on the previous entries to this forum and it looks like taking too big of steps is detrimental to the process as the eyes cannot handle it, and I do not want to waste my time or money. Any other important information that you think I should know would be helpful too!


Cactus Jack 09 Jan 2017, 18:10

Loveglasses,

You need to go above -2.00 during the "training" process. Maybe as high as -4.00, but you have to work up to it.

The way to get prescription Contact Lenses when you don't really need them is to investigate some Contacts that change your eye color or "costume" contact lenses that are moderately popular around Halloween that make your eyes look really scary. You can say that you have been invited to a Costume Party.

What you are interested in, is the Diameter and Base Curve. You will need that information and the desired power to order contact lenses. The major benefit of getting professionally fitted Contact Lenses is that training on inserting and removing the contacts is included and also how to care for them. Good Hygiene is vital when working with Contact Lenses. Improper care can damage your Corneas.

C.


Loveglasses 09 Jan 2017, 12:41

Dear Soundmanpt and Cactus Jack,

Thanks for your opinion. I think I will try it with contact lenses. Shall I start with -1.50, -2.00 or more? With the -1.50 glasses I can see really good. So maybe I can take a bit stronger. My goal is to do an eye exam and the result is about -2.00.

Peter


Cactus Jack 09 Jan 2017, 11:03

Loveglasses,

As Soundmanpt said, you may be to old to be able to induce any Axial or True Myopia. That involves causing your eyeballs to grow. It is very likely that your genes will not let that happen.

However there is another type of Myopia called Pseudo or False Myopia that may have some possibilities, but as Soundmanpt said, you have to either wear glasses or contact lenses every waking hour for that to be occur. Pseudo Myopia is considered "temporary", but temporary can be a long time under the right conditions. You could also do GOC (Glasses over Contacts) if you want to.

We can likely help you with any of those.

May I ask why you can only wear the -1.50 glasses about 10 hours per week? Maybe we can help you work on that also.

C.


Soundmanpt 09 Jan 2017, 10:21

Loveglasses

Your nearing or may already be at the point where "inducing myopia" might not be possible. But to have any chance at all one thing you will have to change from only wearing your -1.50 glasses 10 hours a week. That is not nearly enough to induce even a small amount of myopia. The only way is to go completely full time wearing your glasses. That honestly means from the minute you open your eyes each day you want to put your glasses on and keep them on until you are back in bed at the end of the day. Do this for about 2 months and then recheck your eyesight. All your doing now is wearing your glasses as "recreational use"


Loveglasses 09 Jan 2017, 07:53

Hello my name is Peter from Austria. I just recognized this site and saw that there is a possibility for my wish.

I would like to be short-sighted. I'm 25 years old.

I really love wearing glasses. Two years ago, I did an eye examination but the test said 0.00. But I still wanted to have glasses. So I ordered one in the internet with -1.50. I wear them when I am alone or drive the car. But this is not so often, maybe 10 hours per week. I can see perfectly with them. Today I did a new test and the result was nearly the same. 0.00 and - 0.25.

Do you think there is a possibility to get short-sighted (-2.00 would be great) and how can I do it?

Thanks for your opinion!


Soundmanpt 06 Jan 2017, 09:25

Abbie

I also think starting off with -2.00 glasses might be a little bit too aggressive for your eyes. Even though your eyesight wearing your friends glasses was very clear only wearing them for a few minutes is much different than wearing them full time. So even if seeing distance was good wearing them seeing things close up might be uncomfortable for you. I was a bit confused as to if you were saying that you actually need -.50 correction for both eyes are if you even have glasses in that prescription. So if you actually need -.50

glasses then I would suggest ordering your glasses with -1.25 lenses. If you don't have glasses then I would suggest -1.00 as your first g;lasses. At the same time your ordering these glasses I would also order the same glasses in -2.00. By ordering the same glasses once your eyes are fully adjusted to the -1.00 or -1.25 glasses changing to the stronger ones no one will notice the difference except you. I'm sure you don't want anymore questions about your glasses than necessary. The most important thing in attempting to induce myopia is constantly wearing your glasses from the minute you open your eyes in the morning until you go back to bed that night. As for as being able to drive wearing your glasses, that shouldn't be any problem at all. Your eyes should adjust to your glasses (-1.00 or -1.25) very quickly. Actually it will likely be a bigger problem for you getting used to wearing glasses full time then it will be for your eyes to adjust to the prescription. So I would say at first if you need to drive somewhere first thing in the morning then you might want to take your glasses off. But by mid morning your eyes should be adjusted to your glasses and your vision should be perfect with your glasses on. I'm sure that you will know when your eyes are comfortable wearing glasses to drive. I'm guessing by the 3rd day your going to be very comfortable wearing glasses. Once your distance and close vision is completely clear wearing your glasses then you want to switch to the stronger glasses.


Cactus Jack 05 Jan 2017, 19:36

Abbie,

-2.00 may not be a good place for you to start. Have you had and eye exam recently? It is best to start developing a strategy with your actual prescription. If you decide to get an eye exam and the examiner says you need glasses, do not order them yet. Say that you would like to bring a friend to help you choose frames. Then let us know your prescription.

At 27 it is unlikely that you can induce any Axial or True Myopia. However, you may be able to induce some Pseudo or False Myopia. They have different causes, but have the same results, you need - glasses for correction.

May I ask your occupation and where you live (country). That can affect our suggestions.

C.


Abbie 05 Jan 2017, 17:40

A lot of people in my family get reading glasses and then need to wear plus glasses all the time in the 50s.

I really like the look of shortsighted glasses lenses so don't want to end up long sighted.

I don't glasses think I'm with -0.50 both eyes. I've tried friends glasses on and could see very clear with them think were -2.00

I'm 27 so should I order some -2.00 glasses and wear all the time. I would prefer to be short sighted than long sighted.

Also would it be ok the use them for driving once I'm use to wearing them


Likelenses 30 Dec 2016, 20:22

Just for information.

I went to the online Optical 4 less website, and noted that they offer up to -40. lenses.


Likelenses 30 Dec 2016, 15:03

Since you never have anything worthwhile to contribute here, you must come to this site to fantasize over other mens wives, and girlfriends that wear glasses.

When you do, you must be engaging with your Rosie palm.


 30 Dec 2016, 04:28

"You can only wish you had a woman like Cheryl."

Precisely, LL. You can "only" wish for her. You just revealed more than you realize. She's the ideal woman that you wish exists, so you made her up. In your mind, she exists. In your messages on eyescene, she exists.

You make up these stories about Cheryl and other women that are so very fond of you. They all want to date you. It's because that's what you wish was the truth.

Wishing for things that are not true. But through fiction, you try to make them come true.


Likelenses 29 Dec 2016, 19:45

You can only wish you had a woman like Cheryl.

How is that Rosie palm?


 29 Dec 2016, 04:48

we all know cheryl isn't real. she is a vehicle created so that you can pretend to be with someone who needs glasses. you conveniently bring her out whenever you want to write more fiction. you think you are being clever, but we can all see through it.

man to man: can we please stop the make believe.


Likelenses 29 Dec 2016, 00:16

I wonder if this could be used to make someone a high myope.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-157754/Radio-wave-cure-does-away-reading-glasses.html


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-Alex


Fred 27 Dec 2016, 00:41

Hi, I came across this website for lasik at home.

http://www.lasikathome.com/index.html

Anyone donw it? Doubt it's safe.


Soundmanpt 26 Dec 2016, 09:53

Late30sGirl

After re-reading your first comment from "18 Dec 2016 19:09" I thought you were wanting to continue wearing your -5.50 glasses, but your eyes are finding it more difficult for seeing near. However the question you were really asking is about slowly returning to your actual prescription. I think you might not want to go back to wearing your -3.50 glasses because as your noticing your eyes are starting to change which is a very natural thing as you approach 40. By going to -3.50 now it's very possible that in the next year even your -3.50 glasses may feel too strong for your eyes and you would be needing even weaker glasses. If you want to retain an actual prescription of -3.50 you probably should continue over correcting your eyes with stronger glasses, just not -5.50 glasses much more. It seems that your eyes are quite comfortable with you husband's glasses which are -4.75 so get yourself some glasses in that prescription including your astigmatisms. If your -5.50 glasses are still comfortable for distance yu may want to keep them in your car to wear for driving.

You mentioned that you never started wearing glasses until you were dating your Bf / husband. Did he encourage you to start wearing glasses or was it just because he wore glasses that prompted you start wearing glasses?


Josh 25 Dec 2016, 17:33

Wantglasses, any news about your vision?


Late30sGirl 22 Dec 2016, 18:23

martian1

By no means I am an expert, but I do have some similar experience.

I started using glasses full-time with a very small prescription (less than -1 in myopia) when I was in my early 20s. By using full time and later using stronger lenses, my eyes became much more myopic (-3.5D).

My sense is that I probably needed a stronger prescription since the start, but doctors do tend to prefer to give lower prescriptions whenever they think it is possible.

If I were you, I would use it fulltime at first and start trying out some stronger glasses / contact lenses.


martian1 22 Dec 2016, 17:23

Hello everyone, my prescription is OS plano and OD-1.0 should i get glasses already? Can i still induce some myopia in my left eye? i am 24 years old. Thank you so much!


Soundmanpt 22 Dec 2016, 10:32

Late30sGirl

Actually the test you did with your husband's glasses is why I was suggesting that you might want to consider progressives. If your eyes have been fine wearing your -5.50 glasses for the past 5-7 years bit only recently you're beginning to have trouble with your near vision it's because your eyes are starting to change which is very common as everyone approaches their 40's. Until recently your eyes have always been able to read fairly comfortably even with your eyes being over corrected. But your eyes are starting to weaken for seeing close up and this is why your glasses aren't as comfortable as they always have been. Your test with your husband's glasses is really about the same as what I suggested. By wearing progressives and leaving your distance the same -5.50 and including an add of +1.00 that is the same as wearing -4.50 for reading. I assumed that you wanted to keep your distance vision the same since your eyes have been wearing that prescription for the past 5-7 years? That was why I asked if your still seeing distances perfectly with your -5.50 glasses?. Of course as long as you don't mind wearing slightly weaker glasses then you may want to order single vision glasses in the same -4.75 as your husband's glasses but with your astigmatism included. But you do understand that your eyes are changing and even with getting weaker glasses it is likely that reading small print is going to continue to get more difficult. This is why progressives might be better becasue that way as your eyes change you can still maintain the same -5.50 for distance but increase the add as needed.


Late30sGirl 21 Dec 2016, 20:39

Likelenses

Today I tested my DH glasses (-4.75, I believe that was the last prescription that I made him glasses) and worked great... (maybe my -5.5 was too much for my eyes) Not perfect science (his astigmatism prescription is different) but should give me some pointers...

Should I test with contact lenses? It is easier to test without having to buy new glasses and having to explain why I am buying new glasses again...


Likelenses 21 Dec 2016, 20:12

Late30sGirl

Your concern over the use of progressives at this point is valid.

Stay with the strongest minus that you can tolerate,to keep your cillary muscles in shape.


Late30sGirl 21 Dec 2016, 20:02

Soundmanpt

You are right regarding the first MD. He was probably old school. I did get my first pair of glasses few years later, but the doctor said to use only in classes or when I was driving. I became full time wearer only later, when I met my BF / DH and became less shy of using it (maybe a little bit too much).

I did the tests that you advised. I could read fine with my current prescription. My concern of using progressive lens now is to make my eyes worse. Wouldn't this make the muscles less "exercised"?


bracesfan 20 Dec 2016, 12:29

Wantglasses:

Itīs greatly improbable that you would get crosseyed just wearing prisms. With prisms your eyes will only turn in or out but after taking them off your eyes will turn back. Itīs true that with significant amount of prism you could see double, and even short time after taking glasses off, but no crosseyed. For seeing double is simpler to go for base in. Believe me, I wear big numbers of prism not needing them for quite a couple of years :-)


Wantglasses 20 Dec 2016, 12:28

Itīs greatly improbable that you would get crosseyed just wearing prisms. With prisms your eyes will only turn in or out but after taking them off your eyes will turn back. Itīs true that with significant amount of prism you could see double, and even short time after taking glasses off, but no crosseyed. For seeing double is simpler to go for base in. Believe me, I wear big numbers of prism not needing them for quite a couple of years :-)


Soundmanpt 20 Dec 2016, 10:48

Wantglasses

If your eyesight is now blurry all the time that is exactly what you're wanting. Because you're barely only 16 makes it much easier for your eyes to be changed then someone a little older than you. When you got your glasses how did your eyes feel wearing your -1.00 glasses for the first time? I have a feeling you weren't wearing them very long before they were completely comfortable and you were seeing everything perfect with them.When you switched to the -2.00 glasses i'm sure your eyes felt the difference. Did you have any problem adjusting to them? Your distance vision should be very good with your glasses but any problems with seeing things close up such as reading from a book? Have you placed your order for stronger glasses yet? Since you got your glasses and started wearing them full time has anyone siad anything about how often your wearing glasses now. I mean aren't you wearing glasses much more often now than when you were wearing your fake glasses? Just curious what glasses have you been ordering? Are they a good fit and how do you think they look on you?


Josh 19 Dec 2016, 21:37

http://img13.deviantart.net/e298/i/2009/175/6/8/crossed_eyes_by_sinned_angel_stock.jpg


Josh 19 Dec 2016, 21:36

thatīs the way your eyes have to be to induce your strabism

http://media.istockphoto.com/photos/eyes-crossed-picture-id459200791?k=6&m=459200791&s=170667a&w=0&h=4_ekVAZCbl6d4uZyy0Qp9AamCRrNwtMAZqEUF1zLjvs=


Josh 19 Dec 2016, 21:23

wantglasses, youīre in an age where your eyes still end growing up, so if you do this, the optical nerves will adapt to a new position, then you will devolp more myopia some astigmatism and obviosly the strabism that you want, strong glasses will be ready for you.


Josh 19 Dec 2016, 19:24

if you wanna be cross-eyed what you have to do is force to keep your eyes cross, when both eyes are glue to the nose what you have to do is get only one eye straight, and keep them like this a pair of minutes, do it all the time you can and i garantee your eyes will be crossed in a few weeks


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