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Soundmanpt 26 May 2017, 15:48

oopsl

Just checking to see how you're doing with your new glasses? I know you have only had them a few days? I'm sure your eyes are still working hard to adjust to them.


Soundmanpt 22 May 2017, 16:36

Glad to hear that you got your glasses. So how do you like your prescription sunglasses? I'm not really surprised that your glasses feel a little bit weird. It would have been helpful if you could have wore your -1.75 glasses along with your -1.00 contacts while you were waiting for your glasses to arrive. I know you have been wearing your -2.50 glasses around the house but that's still not the same as wearing the stronger prescription full time. So what you're really doing is almost doubling what your eyes are used to. I am glad that your headache didn't materialize. Maybe by getting a fresh start tomorrow morning will help a bit. I'm sure things do look small now, but as you know as your eyes adjust to your glasses everything will soon appear normal size to you again. Try not to walk into any bike racks. lol


oopsI 22 May 2017, 12:55

Soundmanpt

my glasses arrived. They feel a bit weird, but I see pretty well with them on. Not much distortion or anything. Stuff seems a bit small, though. I felt a headache come on about half an hour ago, but it didn't come, let's hope it stays that way.

I'm interested to see how my sisters appointment will go. I don't expect her prescription to be much higher than a -1, because she hasn't been complaining about not seeing the board well or anything. We will see, though.

Love, Linda


Soundmanpt 18 May 2017, 14:28

oopsl

I assume your still waiting for your glasses to arrive? I'm sure it must be different in Austria as for as delivery service than here in the US. Here I always knew that once he shipped out of California I would have them in my mailbox within 3 days.

I'm glad to hear that you have been wearing the -2.50 glasses during this time. It's too bad that your eyes don't seem to be able to tolerate wearing contacts for very long. Since you really favor your -1.75 glasses for comfort and looks having the -1.00 under your glasses would have been perfe4ct all this time. But if you were able to wear your -2.50 glasses for nearly a full day inside and outside quite comfortably that should help when your new glasses arrive.

And nice that your sister has an eye appointment scheduled for next month. So what prescription do you think she will come away with? I have already said that I think maybe something like -1.00 or maybe -1.25. I really don't think she is going to need any stronger.


antonio 17 May 2017, 21:35

How much Astigmatismus correction do you wear currently, OopsI ? Just interested, habe a nice day,

love, Antonio ;-)


antonio 17 May 2017, 15:19

Wow Oopsi,

sounds funny Ehen you said you felt drunk without then :-)

Do you know it feels normally Mord difficult to give away your glasses the more the stronger your lenses get?

Guess you Start really needing Them to See? :-)

I sometimes like to look oder my lenses, toojust now I found out doing it I read the clock at the wall in this chamber wrong bareeyed, not a surprise With my -6.5 :-)

What do you like to look at over your lenses?

I had a female friend wearing glasses maybe like -2 who looked at me like that if I weren't too far :-)

Best regards, Antonio


oopsI 16 May 2017, 15:58

Soundmanpt

One of my friends loved the so much I told her to go on Zenni and order a pair. She's one of the people that had tried my old glasses and she nearly fell over because she couldn't handle the astigmatism (back then it was +.25-.5 in both eyes). Some people just seem very sensitive (she wears a light minus without cylinder herself).

I'm still going -1.75's outside and -2.5's at home and recently when i spend most of the day studying i wore the -2.5's for everything (including going for a walk and stuff) I barely notice them anymore.

My sister has an appointment about a month from now.

love, Linda


Soundmanpt 16 May 2017, 14:10

oopsl

That's one thing that must make you feel good when people complement you on how awesome your glasses look on you. And didn't you simple love when they tried your glasses on that they said they felt really drunk wearing them? When people tried on your old glasses I think most hardly even noticed that they even had a prescription in them. Just think when you get your new glasses how much more drunk they will feel wearing them? And of course you're going to feel a lot more drunk as well when you take your glasses off. It doesn't sound like you have been wearing your -2.50 glasses very much at all recently? Don't you think that might make going from -1.75 to -3.50 pretty hard on your eyes? That's twice what you're wearing now you know. You might have to wear the -2.50 glasses for a few days so your eyes can better adjust. What do you think? Do you think your eyes can handle it okay straight away? Has mom or dad made an appointment for your sister to get her eyes checked yet? Is she out of school now and if so when does she go back? If she is going to be nervous about having to wear glasses i'm sure getting them just before starting back at school would make it that much harder for her if she barely even had them long enough to get used to wearing them. If she didn't say anything about your glasses feeling even slightly strong to her eyes i'm thinking that she probably need about -1.00 or even -1.25 glasses. I'm sure she liked the over correction just like you. But -1.00 or -1.25 is still about enough for full time wear. Too bad your -1.00 glasses have astigmatisms in them or you could let her try those for a while to see how they work for her.


oopsI 16 May 2017, 12:55

Antonio,

no, I'm wearing the -1.75's. I just like to look over the lenses sometimes.

Today a bunch of people told me how awesome the glasses looked and a few even tried them on. They all said they felt really drunk in them. I felt drunk without them.

Love, Linda


antonio 16 May 2017, 11:19

Hi Oopsi,

does that mean you are going around sometimes bareeyed again or do you use your old glasses then, those you have worn for a year now ?

Best regards, antonio


OopsI 14 May 2017, 13:20

Soundmanpt

Hey :)

No, the test is going to be at the end of June, I was just looking at two schedule and saw that there will be objective refraction done. I'm not sure if everyone will be doing it, though.

As I'm expecting the new glasses I have been a bit sloppy with wearing the ones I have at the moment and I've been testing my eye sighed all the time. I know, not effective, but as it still seems to be working and the changes will be more rapid with the stronger glasses I guess it's okay.


Soundmanpt 14 May 2017, 13:02

oopsl

Okay so if they already shipped out of Hong Kong they should arrive this week sometime I would think.

Based on your own testing you're eyesight isn't as good as it was just 2 months ago before you started.

This is what you were expecting to come up but just a bit sooner than expected? Do you know what day they will be doing this? Well it shouldn't be too awkward. You certainly can't go in wearing your -1.75 glasses because your eyes could be slowly changing the longer you have your glasses off during the testing. So I would suggest that you pull out your old -.25 -.50 / -.25 -.50 glasses and wear them that day day at least until they finish testing you. Then you can put your -1.75 glasses back on. It would have been better if they were testing you next month.


oopsI 14 May 2017, 12:26

Just looked at my classes. We will be doing objective refraction... That could be awkward...


oopsI 14 May 2017, 09:45

Soundmanpt

I don't quite remember when it was that I placed the order, but tracking says it has left Hong Kong.

My vision without glasses was quite good when I started, I hardly noticed blurriness in good lighting using both my eyes. When it was darker/when I closed one eye there was some blur (in the dark) or ghosting (when closing one eye in good lighting). Now I think there is some blur when I wake up when I look out of the window. That's pretty subjective, though. I used an online eye exam thing this morning in good lighting to test it. My vision was better with the -1 glasses (instead of my regular glasses) for my left eye for sure, I think it was better for the right eye, too, but it's wasn't an obvious difference.

Love, Linda


Soundmanpt 12 May 2017, 15:00

oopsl

You seem to be noticing some changes in your eyesight since you started wearing over correction. Were you able to see the leaves on a tree without your actual prescription glasses being on? And it's a very good sign that when you take off your glasses now it is taking longer and longer for your vision to recover and even then only partially. Apparently your left eye must be slightly weaker than your right eye. Interesting since your actual prescription is the same (-.25 -.50) in both eyes, I had to look that up to sure all the way back to March 14th) in both eyes. You mentioned recently that your vision is a bit more blurry in the morning than it used to be which is another good indicator of change. Once you get you new glasses it should even speed things more for you. How long ago did you place your order for them? Have you checked the tracking to see where they are? I know you said that you wear your -1.75 glasses as your everyday glasses but are you still wearing the -2.50 glasses around your house so it won't be as shocking to your eyes when the -3.50 glasses arrive and you start trying to wear them.

Have a great weekend Linda.


antonio 12 May 2017, 13:46

OopsI, seems to me, you are More in need of wearing a lens in Front oft your weaker left eye than you have been before ?

If you like we can discuss in lenschat.

Cu and Best regards, Antonio


antonio 12 May 2017, 13:35

Oh okay OopsI, I know your left eye has Bern your weak one before. So how strong will be your New pair?

Best regards, Antonio


oopsI 12 May 2017, 13:24

antonio

I haven't tried doing that without wearing the overcorrection for a length of time.

When I now take off the glasses it takes a while for my eyes to adjust. My left eye stays pretty blurry, though (cannot make out leaves on a tree at all, while with both eyes they are there, just not perfectly clear). It also only takes a few seconds of wearing the overcorrection for my vision to become blurry again (but that's also mostly for the left eye, when I look at things with both eyes I can still see quite well, not perfect, but okay).

I'm exited for the new glasses!


antonio 12 May 2017, 05:21

Hi Oopsi,

habe you ever tried again to wear only your original -0.5 ones and how you see in Them now in different situations? Or even gone bareeyed anywhwere?

Just interested, best regards, Antonio


antonio 12 May 2017, 05:20

Hi Oopsi,

habe you ever tried again to wear only your original -0.5 ones and how you see in Them now in different situations? Or even gone bareeyed anywhwere?

Just interested, best regards, Antonio


antonio 09 May 2017, 14:55

To OopsI,

so glad to hear you aren't going mad, girl :-)

Best regards, Antonio :-)


oopsI 09 May 2017, 10:13

Soundmanpt and antonio

I'm gonna respond here to keep it in one thread.

I was wearing the -1.75's and don't worry, I don't want to be that shortsighted. Far from it, my goal is still in the -2 range. I was just interested to see a person with glasses that looked terribly strong.

I actually just ordered the glasses and am excited to get them :)

Love, Linda


Soundmanpt 01 May 2017, 10:52

oopsl

If the contacts are bothering your eyes or making the itchy then you're right in not wearing them. The last think you want is an eye infection. Besides you are doing fine with just wearing your -1.75 glasses full time. And you said that you are planning on placing your order for stronger glasses very soon anyway.


oopsI 01 May 2017, 09:48

I think I can't wear the contacts, I wore some yesterday and my eyes are still itchy ...


oopsI 30 Apr 2017, 02:21

Soundmanpt

Yes, I figured. Happens when you don't have to register in a forum.


Soundmanpt 29 Apr 2017, 19:04

oopsl

Just so you know, that post on "29 Apr 2017 15:32" wasn't from me and I think most of the ones claiming to be posted by Antonio aren't by him either. There is a troll that is finding great humor in posting comments under other peoples name. As you know I wouldn't post a comment like that since I know that you in fact have some astigmatisms already.


antonio 29 Apr 2017, 17:35

OopsI,

Perhaps both of you will be wearing mason jar lenses within a few years.

Myodiscs rule! :-)

best regards,

antonio :-)


antonio 29 Apr 2017, 15:39

OopsI,

interesting to think who of you both will need stronger

lenses to see okay :-)

best regards,

antoniio :-)


NNVisitor 29 Apr 2017, 15:34

Noreen asked why anyone would want to create an eyesight problem they don't have.

Doing so is a form of self harm. It's beyond the scope of rational thinking to plan to harm oneself.


Soundmanpt 29 Apr 2017, 15:32

oopsl

I forgot also to mention that the blurriness that you are having may be due to some astigmatisms beginning.

How would you feel about needing cylinder correction for astigmatisms?


antonio 29 Apr 2017, 15:31

yes,

for most of us the decision was taken somewhere else :-),

you are an exception there :-)

sorry for the "elderly", :-)

cu in lenschat perhaps,

a little myopic regards,

antonio


oopsI 29 Apr 2017, 15:27

antonio

Elderly? I should probably sort out my retirement plans ;)

With me it's a decision, with her it's more like bad luck and too much instagram, lol. If she needs glasses already, she's probably going to end up in your prescription range.

Love, Linda


antonio 29 Apr 2017, 15:03

Hi OopsI,

"Poor thing will probably end up with quite a bit of myopia",

like her elderly sister will probably :-)

myopic regards, antonio


oopsI 29 Apr 2017, 11:56

Soundmanpt

That my eyes were relaxing when looking at stuff in the distance only lasted for about two days, I'm guessing it was because I was because I slept less than usual. I read somewhere that the eyes get the "command" to grow when they get blurry vision/hyperopic defocus, I don't know if that's just a theory, though.

Today I ran out of contacts (wore some -1's under my glasses today because I spend a good bit of the day outside) and decided to buy new ones (-4's this time to wear under my old glasses and some -2's) I'm actually considering getting some monthly lenses at one point as that would be a good bit cheeper, but I'm worried that I might damage my cornea by doing that. Maybe I should get some fitted at some point...

I'm gonna remind my dad to make an appointment for her. My sister seemed not to bothered by her possible need of glasses, and I'm guessing she's old enough to get contacts if she hated wearing glasses. Poor thing will probably end up with quite a bit of myopia by the time she's all grown up.

Love, Linda


Soundmanpt 29 Apr 2017, 10:01

oopsl

I forgot to answer your question about your eyes losing focus or seeming to be "lazy" when looking at things in the distance. What's happening is your eye muscles are in fact relaxing. So in effect your eyes are simply trying to ignore the prescription in your glasses. So even though your vision is somewhat more blurry that way your eyes are going to be more comfortable because their not being forced to stay focused. You're trying to train your eyes to see naturally wearing -1.75 glasses.So you want to force your eyes to stay focused as much as possible.

I don't know when high school starts in Austria but if your parents haven't made an appointment for your sister to get her eyes checked you probably need to remind them. And since she almost certainly will be getting glasses she might need or want a little time to get used to wearing glasses before she starts back at school. When she was trying on your glasses did she seem okay with the idea of wearing glasses herself? Since you wear glasses full time i have a feeling she would probably be fine with it.


Rich 29 Apr 2017, 05:57

Thanks for explaining, Cactus Jack. I've always wondered why I've had some (relative) success with inducing myopia during my 30s and other people on this forum haven't.


Cactus Jack 28 Apr 2017, 19:54

Rich,

You have most likely induced some Pseudo Myopia and maybe a very little Axial Myopia. Pseudo Myopia is caused by the Ciliary Muscles and Crystalline Lenses having difficulty relaxing to minimal PLUS power after either focusing close or wearing glasses with more MINUS than you actual need for a very long time. It is considered "temporary" but that is a relative term. As Presbyopia creeps up on you, the Pseudo Myopia may decrease. There is no way to predict how much of your Myopia is Pseudo and how much is Axial Myopia or where you will finally wind up.

Enjoy it while you can.

C.


oopsI 28 Apr 2017, 13:36

wisior

thank you so much for your advise. Right now I feel like it's working for me anyways, but if my prescription isn't going to change significantly by October I'll surely try your method, it sounds like it's working out well.

It's good to read success stories :)

Love, Linda


Rich 28 Apr 2017, 09:31

In 2008, I was 30 and a pathetic -0.75 in both eyes. In summer 2009, I started wearing glasses/contacts ordered online (a -2 prescription) full-time. In April 2010, I walked away with a -1.5 prescription at an eye test. By 2012, I was at -2.5. Now, it's -2.75 (and unlikely to rise - am nearly 40) but I wear -3.25 glasses/contacts daily. Any possible reasons why this has happened?


Maxim 28 Apr 2017, 07:55

to Wisior

Very good ideas indeed, and nicely written. Very helpful in my opinion, thank you!


wisior 28 Apr 2017, 05:01

One more thing. How I bought contact lenses? I wrote on a normal paper sheet all data needed to buy lenses: power, curve, type, company etc.and accessories. Then I went to the shop and showed this sheet to the optician/seller saying that I must buy it for my sister who is leaving town tomorrow morning for long trip and she sent me here to buy it. They never asked any questions. And I had excuse to say "I don't know, but please don't force me to go anywhere because I must go back to work". :)


wisior 28 Apr 2017, 04:42

oopsI

Good to hear that it works. When I was 27 I wanted to induce some myopia. I read all posts on this site and started to do so. That time I was +0.75/+0.25. I bought contact lenses -4 "day and night" (as they are more oxygene transparent) and I wore them since I woke up till the end of the day (at night I took them off, it's better for eyes). I spent a lot of time reading, doing close work. After 3 months my vision in +0.75 changed to +0.25 or 0.0 and my other eye went from +0.25 to -0.25. Due to my age, my eyes were too old to increase myopia in more significant amount, and I decided to stop. Little myopia was not my goal. Now, after 10 years, my eyes still stays at these numbers. So it worked!

If I were you, at your age, I would consider to buy contact lenses and wear them under the glasses you already have. It will prevent lenses to look thicker and attract people's attention. Contact lenses have one more good thing - you cannot take it off that easy, so your eyes have much more constant condition that can adapt to. Wearing contact lenses after some time will cause you to forget about them. That is the point. Do not give a chance your eyes to relax, and results will appear very soon. Don't test your vision, just wear lenses and forget about them. After one month buy little stronger ones and wear them constantly. After 6 months there must appear some good results.

Power of lenses, in my opinion, should be as strong as possible but allow to keep all day good vision - near and far (it means when reading, your eye focus must be at least 3/4 of possible focusing power - it must give constant pressure on the focus muscle - but not too much, you must see clearly even when reading longer time). First weeks of wearing contacts I felt this pressure on my focus, but then my eyes adapted to it. Then the pressure began to disappear and after some more weeks I would be able to use stronger lenses. I am sure that after one year of wearing lenses as strong as possible to tolerate , will create good level of myopia. But it's important to not go to far with overcorrection. You must be able to keep focus all the time. Then after month or two, try to buy lenses 1D stronger. And then again... When you will reach your desired level of myopia, then all nice things will start to happen. Just let the process go smoothly, not disturbed and results will come quickly. Must be consistent! Good luck


oopsI 27 Apr 2017, 21:11

Soundmanpt

Okay, I'm just going to order the two glasses, then. Makes everything cheeper, which is always nice.

The lazy thing is like you describe it. When I look in the distance and don't focus on anything my vision will blur if I don't force it to stay focused. It will also focus every now and then.

I have a terrible sweet tooth and was always surprised that I never had a cavity. Now I'm not in that club anymore.

To the anonymous person,

thank you, how sweet of you to congratulate me ;)

Love Linda


? 27 Apr 2017, 18:55

Linda, congratulations on the beginning of ruining your eyesight.

Coke bottles could be in your future.


Soundmanpt 27 Apr 2017, 17:37

oopsl

Yes! That's very exciting news that you're unable to read the the title of a book a distance away from you that in the past and now you're unable to read the title of the book without your glasses that is a very good sign that their is some change in your actual vision. If 8 hours of sleep wasn't enough for your eyes to fully return to your normal vision. Of course I know that you understand that your vision isn't close to being -1.75 but it seems like it must be a little worse than -.25 -.50 / -.25 -.50 now. So yes I think that you're clearly on schedule based on your own testing. I'm glad that you're planning on placing your order for stronger glasses sooner rather than later. Getting the exact same glasses as you're already wearing is a very good idea because that way no one will be able to tell any difference in your glasses and by getting the higher index the lenses shouldn't look any different to anyone. No one will be asking to try on your glasses since they won't know their different.And I think that you really like your -1.75 glasses as well as how you look wearing them. Nice that you found a pair that will make nice prescription sunglasses from Zenni too. You have already made quite a bit of progress just by wearing your -1.75 glasses. And when you get your -3.50 glasses that should even speed up your progress even more. So I don't you need to bother with getting -6.00 glasses, at least not at this time anyway.

Youn have me a bit confused by exactly what you mean when you say that your eyes seem to get "lazier" when you're not doing close work but instead looking at something in the distance your vision gets blurry if you're not reading something. You say that you can avoid this from happening, I assume you mean by forcing your eyes to focus, but its comfortable to just let it happen by allowing your eyes to relax. I assume you mean this happens with your glasses on?

Well since you had the one filling done you know what to expect getting theses two filled. So Linda has a sweet tooth does she? Yeah candy will do that according to dentists anyway.


antonio 27 Apr 2017, 12:22

Hi OopsI,

so sorry I missed you in here,

I had little technical problems,

best wishes to you and myopic greeetings,

antonio


antonio 27 Apr 2017, 11:17

Hi OopsI,

you blind thingy

Shortsighted life is full of surprises, isn't it? :-)

And if you like to stay informed even bareeyed,

it's also increasing your physical fitness AS you just approach your shelf every day from now on and your mental fitness AS it will be soon More easy for you to memorize things than to really read or See them. Am I right??

Best times to you , Antonio :-)


oopsI 27 Apr 2017, 10:14

The book is on a shelf on my wall, I wasn't reading it :)


oopsI 27 Apr 2017, 10:13

Soundmanpt

I sure hope so. This morning I realised I could not read the title of a book anymore, I used to be able to read that, so that's good, too, I guess. I'm gonna order the new glasses soon and am quite excited to do so. I'm going for Zenni's, though, because I found a cheep and pretty pair of glasses on there to wear as sunglasses and that way I can stick to my frames (and higher index is free). I'm also considering ordering a pair with a higher prescription (like a lot higher, maybe a minus 6) to wear while reading every now and then, but maybe that's not necessary as I feel like I'm on schedule with the changes :D

I noticed my eyes seem to become "lazier" though, because when I'm not doing close work and instead I'm looking at things in the distance my vision gets blurry when I don't need to read anything. I can avoid that if I want to, but it's comfortable to let it happen. Should I avoid it or can I just relax?

I got some pain meds and I'm doing okay. Last time I didn't really listen and I actually need another two fillings, that's why I have to go back. I might just not have brushed as well since I'm in college or eating all that candy while studying has finally taken it's tall on me. Dental work is catching up with me now, lol. I wore contacts which was good, because I couldn't keep my eyes closed.

Love, Linda


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