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Glassesforeyeryone 15 Jan 2017, 15:44

Interesting article...

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Cactus Jack 11 Jan 2017, 18:49


Sorry to be slow getting back to you. You are doing the right thing. Few of us here are Eye Care Professionals (ECO). I am not and don't pretend to be. I am an Amateur in the original French sense of the word as someone who studies a subject out of love. My background is Electronic and Computer Engineering. My interest is vision and optics is related to my own vision problems and the inability to get satisfying answers from all but a very few ECPs.

Most very young children react unfavorably to anything on their face, but quickly discover that whatever those things are, they let me see better and become very upset when you have to take them off at bedtime.

We wish your daughter the very best. If we can help with answer more questions, please feel free to ask.


Jacey 09 Jan 2017, 11:36

Her new prescription for her left eye is -10.25, and everything else is the same. She jas loved her glasses from the moment her dad put them on her. Both doctors basically said because she is so young, her myopia is most probably developmental issue. They both reccomended we keep a close eye on her vision, and get her eyes checked regularly because it is very likely her prescription will need frequent adjustments. This doctor was a bit concerned about the difference between both her eyes.

Cactus Jack 07 Jan 2017, 16:47


I am very curious what the doctors have said and your daughter's new prescription. How has she reacted to the glasses. Most very young children initially try to reject the glasses, because they are a strange thing on their face. Once they discover that there is an amazing world out there that they can see with their glasses and it disappears without them, they are very unhappy when you take them off.

If the glasses allow your daughter to visually explore the world around her, I would urge you to consider learning teaching her Baby Sign Language. It is amazing what that can do to speed mental development and learning to talk. At first I was skeptical about the latter, but it turns out that once the baby learns that she can communicate her wants and needs more quickly and efficiently with the sign language, it ends the inefficient crying. It doesn't take long before the baby can hold conversations with the mother using sign language for one side and voice for the other and then not much longer for both sides of the conversation to be spoken, when the speech centers develop.

Of course decent vision is necessary to clearly see your hands as you teach her the sign language.

May I as your daughter's name?

I am very happy that you have been able find out about your daughter's situation and have taken action to do something about it.

Please keep us posted about her progress.


Jacey 06 Jan 2017, 16:53

We went in this morning, and the doctor basically confirmed everything the other doctor said. He did however come up with another prescription for her left eye. Her new glasses should be ready tomorrow.

Cactus Jack 05 Jan 2017, 14:20


Just some thoughts. Hopefully, you will get some answers tomorrow. Please let us know the results.


Jacey 05 Jan 2017, 09:49

She was a full term baby, and her pregnancy was my best and easiest. I never got sick, however as usual my asthma came out of hiding and started acting up again. My mom came over from the UK and stayed with us for the end of the pregnancy until the baby was a month old. Also, my in-laws stayed with us for a couplr of weeks during the pregnancy, and they are from France.

Guido 05 Jan 2017, 09:18

Found these sites for those who like to do it yourself.

Cactus Jack 05 Jan 2017, 01:56


Did you have any illnesses while you were carrying your daughter? Was she premature? Were there any problems during the pregnancy? Did any close family members travel overseas and return during the pregnancy?

Some diseases are notorious for causing eye development problems during gestation. For example, Rubella, also known as German or 3 Day Measles, is famous for causing eye development problem, but not usually Myopia. Often it disturbs the development of some of the lenses in the eye that results in extreme Hyperopia.

Eye development problems do not happen as much in the North America, but it its is more prevalent in South America. The father of one of our members sponsors an eye clinic in the area in eastern Brazil near the equator. They have discovered an unusual number of people who are very nearsighted. One a young boy of about 10 who has myopia in the -20 range and a young woman in here early 20s who needs -29 glasses. Unusual in a thin population. The two are biologically un-related. The cause is unknown.

There could be other Virus effects that we really don't know much about. A good example of a Virus causing fetal development problems is the Zika Virus that apparently started in Brazil, but has been brought to North America by mosquitos or returning travelers.


Jacey 05 Jan 2017, 00:06

Thabks for the suggestion,I made her an appointment for Friday. To answer your question, no, I cannot think of anyone with myopia let alone high myopia in my husband's family, and in mine all I can think of is my nephew who is nearsighted but not much at all. I don't mind you asking me questions on here. Feel free to ask, and if something is too personal I will either respond via email or the website you mentioned.

Cactus Jack 04 Jan 2017, 22:23


It is highly likely that your daughter will become more myopic as she grows up. but it depends on the cause of the high myopia. I don't want to get too deep into optical physics here, but all refractive errors are fundamentally caused by a mismatch between the total power PLUS power of the eye's lens system and the length (size) of the eyeball.

There is no way for us to know exactly what is going on with your daughter's vision. It will be interesting to see what her reaction will be to the glasses. Initially, she may not like them and try to pull them off her face, but if she soon realizes that there is something more to see out there, that is a good sign.

The biggest danger with high myopia is that if the eyeball is growing too fast. That excess growth may put stress on the tissue that attaches the Retina to the back of the eyeball. That stress can cause Retinal detachment and loss of vision. Fortunately, there are ways to re-attach the Retina if caught in time.

I strongly urge you to make arrangement for her to be seen by a Pediatric Ophthalmologist as soon as possible to find out exactly what is going on.

At this point, if excess growth is causing the problem, we have no way to slow down that growth or speed it up, either. Eyeball growth seems to have a very strong genetic component. Do either you or your husband have any ancestors who were extremely myopic?

I don't know the actual numbers, but high myopia is not very common, but that is possibly because the high myopia is not discovered this early. We have had a few mothers who posted here asking about a 4 to 6 year old that has been discovered to need glasses in the -6 to -10 range. High Hyperopia seems to be more common because it is often caught by the eyes trying to turn inward or cross. Usually children with significant Myopia do not have the eyes turning inward problem. One of the problems in dealing with high refractive errors in children is hat they don't have any way to describe what they are seeing. An ophthalmologist who specializes in children's vision problems can do the best for your daughter.

I would like to ask a few more questions, but I think it would be best if you contacted me privately at or as a private message on the Vision and Spex site.


GreginColo 04 Jan 2017, 17:34

I don't know what the process or procedure would have been to diagnose the need for such a high level of myopic correction in an infant, but hopefully the Optometrist also made a recommendation for some much more specialized and higher level of diagnosis and evaluation, as suggested by Cactus Jack, to help all involved better understand the situation, and what options, if any, may exist.

Jacey 04 Jan 2017, 11:01

We went to an optometrist. We live i America. I have a few questions. I have some questions, will my daughter's eyesight get worse as she grows up? Is she close to blind, or in danger of getting there? Is there anything out there that can fix her eyes. Not glassed which only provide a fix while you have them on, but a real permenant fix? Also, how uncommon or common is this?

Cactus Jack 03 Jan 2017, 21:46


Your 6 year old son is a little bit Hyperopic (far or long sighted), which is not unusual. Most babies are born with Hyyperopia and gradually grow out of it. The +1.25 glasses will make it easier to focus close. He was probably born with much more Hyperopia than he presently has and he has grown out of most of it.

You are right to be concerned about your 7 month old daughter. She is very Myopic (near or short sighted). That occasionally happens and there is likely nothing you could have done to cause or prevent it. From the practical vision side, she cannot see anything beyond about 10 cm or 4 inches, very clearly. It is good that the situation was discovered early. About 80% of the knowledge a child gains is through vision. The glasses will enable her to see more normally, but that may not be a full prescription. She may see the world as colored blobs without correction.

I have a few questions:

1. Was the eye exam appointment with an Optician, Optometrist or Ophthalmologist?

2. May I also ask where you live?

If the Eye Care Professional (ECP) you saw was not an Ophthalmologist, I urge you to make an appointment with a Pediatric Ophthalmologist or an Ophthalmologist who specializes in High Myopia.


Jacey 03 Jan 2017, 15:19

Her prescription is -12.75 and -9.5 and she has -2.00 astigmatism in her right eye. My son that got glasses is 6 years old. His prescription is +1.25 in both eyes.

Cactus Jack 03 Jan 2017, 14:23


There are lots of reasons for a 7 month old to need vision correction, but without having the prescription, it is not possible to offer any explanation. A lot of visual development occurs in the first few months after birth and it is very important to take care of any problems ASAP.

Could you provide her complete prescription and if possible, your son's prescription and his age.


Jacey 03 Jan 2017, 12:26

Just got the news that my baby girl and older son need glasses. I took the kids in for an appointment and the doctor said they both need glasses. They will be ready tomorrow. I just cannot imgaine my baby wearing glasses. She is 7 months old. How does a 7 month old wear glasses. More important how does a 7 month old's eyesight go bad? I don't give her any tablets, phones, ot laptops to play with. She only started watching TV last month, and that is only on Fridays for 1 hour. She eats healthy. I did not get glasses until I was 31, and my husband still foes not wear glasses.

Cactus Jack 14 Dec 2016, 15:17

dodgy eye,

When you go to the independent ECP, be sure and explain your visual history and the discomfort you have had during exams. Independent ECPs are of course professionals and they are also in business. Their long term livelihood depends on your satisfaction with their services, your repeat business, and possible referrals of other patients. An exam may cost may cost a little more than a chain, but it has been my experience that it is worth it.

If you have not seen one in a long time, you might consider an Ophthalmologist to make sure that your eyes are healthy and you are not showing signs of other health problems. The eyes are windows into the body and many "silent" killers are first discovered during an eye exam.

If there are any lurking eye problems, you are very fortunate to have one of the best eye hospitals in the world, Moorfields, in London. However, it is unlikely that you will need them at this time.


dodgy eye 14 Dec 2016, 14:28

I go to a chain but thinking it may make better sense to go to an.independent who may have more time to spend, always feel incredibly rushed and with my eyesight issue I don't think they are able to spend the time needed. I work in HR mainly office based.

Cactus Jack 13 Dec 2016, 16:34

dodgy eye,

Yes. I suspect that the partial blockage of your Right eye kept the vision center in your brain from developing fully. It is important, when you are young, to get the full visual stimulus needed for that to happen. Fortunately, the tumor was removed soon enough for you to not develop full Amblyopia and complete loss of vision in that eye.

May I ask if you are using an independent Eye Care Professional (ECP) or a Optical Chain for your eye care? Also, your occupation?


dodgy eye 13 Dec 2016, 16:11

I live in the UK, left eye sph -0.75 cyl -0.50 axis 10 and right eye sph -0.75 no cyl.

Its not a large prescription but with it, my Left eye corrects very well. With my right eye, the lens just seems to sharpen things up a touch but it still.doesnt see as well as left does.

What I described, does it make sense that my right eye woukd cause this difficulty and uncomfortable feeling during the eye test?

Cactus Jack 13 Dec 2016, 15:58

dodgy eye,

Absolutely! You and your examiner need to work as a team to get the best results.

There are two phases to an eye exam.

The first phase is the Objective phase. That is where the examiner either looks in your eyes with a Rentinoscope or an Auto-refractor while changing some lenses. This phase gives an approximation of your refractive needs.

The second and most important phase is the Subjective phase where you tell the examiner what you see. Remember, the examiner has no way to tell what you are actually seeing, only what you describe.

Also remember that Vision actually occurs in the brain. Your eyes are merely biological cameras. You brain has the ability to do some amazing image processing and can actually correct what you see, IF it knows what something is supposed to look like. The problems with doing the image correction takes quite a bit of effort and energy. It is much more efficient to correct the delivered images optically so little processing is required.

May I suggest reviewing the piece I wrote "How to Study for an Eye Exam" before your next exam. I have posted it several times here and on the Vision and Specs web site. Let me know if you can't find it or if you have more questions.

Don't be afraid to talk to the examiner before the exam starts. Most ECPs want to provide the most accurate prescription possible and are happy to have your active participation. If they seem reluctant to cooperate, find another ECP.

I am particularly in favor of "fine tuning" the Axis angle at the appropriate place in the exam and comparing the two images for sharpness when you are first shown both eyes working together, during the check for muscle problems. Those are both covered in "How to Study . . "

May I ask a few questions?

1. Where do you live? (country)

2. What is your complete prescription.


dodgy eye 13 Dec 2016, 14:49

I have a question about why I find the refraction bit of an eye exam with one of my eyes incredibly hard.

A bit of background: I had a tumour above my right eye and it didn't get removed until I was 4. The tumour pretty much covered my right eye so I could only see out of it a small amount. There is no physical damage to the eye but for most of my life I have never seen as well out of this eye as the other and always feel it's my worst eye, I feel as though I do more ďseeingĒ out of my left eye. I am also left eye dominant(,I found this out during am archery lesson), it's fine detail that i find hard to discern no matter how hard I squint to see clearly. I have had optometrist in the past tell me that I have an amblyopia right eye. I am 30years of age now and have had a very light short sighted prescription in both eyes for many years- in fact a slightly larger prescription in my left eye than right but it corrects further down to 20/15 whereas my right eye corrects to just about 20/20.

I hope I can explain myself clearly, When I have an eye test where they keep both eyes open and viewing the chart instead of testing and blocking off one eye at a time, and they put a lens in front of the eye that's not being tested( makes the chart look blurred and fuzzy) and they start testing the right eye, I really struggle and feel that the blur from.the left lens is somehow encroaching onto my right eye and making it even harder for me to see/concentrate on the lens changes when they ask which one is clearer and feel like I have to shut my left eye to ignore the blur and help me concentrate on the lenses being presented to my right eye. When they test the left eye, I don't seem to have that problem. Ive also had eye tests where they test one eye at a time and block off the other eye and find that much easier to cope with especially for my right eye. Is the difficulty that I am having with my right eye because of the amblyopia/lazy eye and my other eye being quite dominant? Am I able to mention to the optometrist next time I find that method difficult and uncomfortable and ask them to block off the left eye when testing the right eye in future

Soundmanpt 03 Dec 2016, 07:58

Cactus Jack

That may explain why I haven't heard that term used for some time.

Cactus Jack 02 Dec 2016, 13:01

I believe that today, it is NOT wise to wait until cataracts "ripen", unless you are one of those rare people who need to have complete Crystalline Lens AND Capsule removal.

Before the development of IOL type surgery, cataract surgery was extremely serious as described. I have often thought that there was a hope that the patient would die before cataract surgery was actually necessary. Of course it might have been easier to remove the Capsule if the Crystalline Lens had become hard.

Today,, with IOLs, the Capsule is NOT removed. Instead, the Crystalline Lens is emulsified using a very tiny ultrasonic "jack hammer" through a very small incision on the side of the Cornea. A friend of mine, following the old ideas, waited too long. The surgeon was finally able to emulsify his Crystalline Lens, but it was not easy. That made the surgery take longer and be more risky than if he done it sooner. My cataract surgery done in 2001, took about 10 minutes. It was the closest thing to a non-event I have ever experienced.

At the surgeon's recommendations for Engineers, I opted for Mono Vision with single focus IOLs because of their better Visual Acuity. For the best vision, I wear Trifocals, but I can function quite well for most "less than precision" work, without my glasses. With Mono Vision, you use one eye for distance and the other for moderately close work. For extensive reading, because I have some Astigmatism, I have a pair of single vision reading glasses.

I was quite nervous about the first surgery. As I mentioned, it was a non-event. When I went back the next day for a check up, one of my questions was, "How soon can we do the other eye". Answer, "Two Weeks". Because I knew what to expect, it was even more of a non-event. I have never regretted it for an instant.


Soundmanpt 02 Dec 2016, 12:03


First of all you can't even think about cataract surgery until they "ripen" in other words until they are ready to be removed. So that really depends on how fast your cataracts are developing. But your optometrists needs to refer you to an ophthalmologist that will do the surgery. Now for what its worth you don't know how lucky you are to be living now as opposed to say 50 years ago. I remember my grandmother getting her cataracts removed and it was so much different back then. She was in the hospital for 4 days and she had lay will sandbags on each side of her head so she wouldn't move her head. And when she did go home she couldn't do anything fro weeks. Then she had to get her eyes examined and she came away with really thick plus glasses that made he eyes look like saucers. Then in the late 80's my mother had to get her cataracts removed and it was so much different. She didn't have to stay even a day in the hospital and the operation only took a couple minutes. I don't know what my mother's glasses prescription was but I know she wore glasses from when I was very young. And her glasses were bifocals as well. She had the ICL's and she came away with perfect eyesight and didn't need glasses at all. But like you she had worn glasses for so long that she wanted to continue to wear glasses. She talked the doctor into prescribing her glasses which did have some type of prescription that she wore until she died. The only issue she ever had was that she had become very light sensitive and besides having the changeable lenses, these were lenes that was before transitions, and she even had a pair of what thye call solar sunglasses that cover the eyes from all angles that she would wear over her glasses. Without a doubt i'm sure they have made numerous improvements since then as well. As far as how strong your current glases are and how much they can correct is not something I can answer. B ut I can tell you that about 8 years ago I was talking to an optician friend and she told me that her eyes were too bad for lasik. She was -14.00 and she got ICLs and her one eye was was slightly better than perfect 20/15 and the other eye needed -.50 correction and of course she was thrilled with the results. So it's very possible that they can correct your eyes to a perfect 20/20. And if you still want to wear glasses I have feeling the doctor will understand and fit you with some type of prescription for glasses.

Di 02 Dec 2016, 03:18


I know I have to have surgery at some point, itís not a pleasant thing but Iím not terrified of it. Iíve had surgical procedures twice before on my eyes for retinal problems. I just want to choose the right option as itís something Iím going to have to live with for the rest of my life. I want good distance vision and I love reading so itís important to me to be able to see very close up. Iím happy to wear reading glasses if thatís what it takes but I was led to understand that multifocal lenses can correct for near vision and far. My vision isnít perfect with glasses, especially in low light so I donít drive at night which is a limitation I would like to address. After surgery I would hope this could change.

My prescription is in excess of -20 in both eyes with some astigmatism on top of that plus an additional +3 for reading. I am very compromised without my glasses, there is very little I can do while not wearing them. When I wake up I canít see my alarm clock, even though it has digits 2 inches high and is right at the edge of my beside table as near to the bed as possible. I canít see my glasses at all and have to feel for them in the position I know I left them but even so when my hands touch them I usually blindly grab at the lenses and get finger prints all over them. Just this morning I went to retrieve my glasses and knocked a glass of water over that I had forgotten about and just didnít see. These are minor annoyances but as a 61 year old woman living alone I do feel vulnerable with such limited vision. I have a friend with a prescription of -6 and she can do lots of things without her glasses. She can walk around her house, go to the bathroom in the night, make a cup of tea, she even often reads with the book held closer than normal. Iíd be very happy with this level of vision.

30calcat 01 Dec 2016, 16:16


What is your current glasses lens strength? I guess most people would consider needing -6 to -10 lenses for distance to still be "helpless", rather than being able to get about. Technically, if you need -6 for distance, everything beyond 17cm in front of your eyes is out of focus.

Stingray 01 Dec 2016, 14:32

My next door neighbor is a retired ophthalmologist. Since I have growing cataracts and will have to address the surgery in the near future, I asked him about the intra-ocular lenses. I have a plus distance prescription with astigmatism and of course a plus reading prescription. I asked him about varifocal lenses and he suggested not to get them. His advice was to either opt for distance correction or near vision correction. He said that wearing multi-focal lenses will eventually lead to having to wear glasses in the future for either near or far.

Chino 01 Dec 2016, 14:13

Hi Di,

I had read this over a year ago. Might be worth looking into if you don't like the idea of surgery.

All the best,


Di 01 Dec 2016, 12:05

At my last eye examination recently I was told I have the early signs of cataracts in both eyes. With hindsight I had noticed my vision getting worse, particularly at night so it didn't come as a complete surprise. All the same it was an unpleasant reminder that I'm getting older and that bits of me are going to start letting me down from now on. I don't exactly relish the idea of the surgery that I'll have to have soon to deal with the cataracts either. When I mentioned it to a friend she said it's no big deal these days and it could turn out to be a good thing, I can get lenses implanted that will allow me to get rid of my myopia and also mean I never need reading glasses. I know such multi-focal lenses exist but I don't know if they can be made to my full requirements (very high myopia, high astigmatism and a reading addition). In truth, I don't think I want to get rid of my glasses altogether anyway. I've worn them for nearly sixty years and feel they're part of me. I've never really seen myself without them and when I've had pictures taken without them I don't recognise my naked face. Glasses change my look completely and I honestly prefer the way I look with them.

I don't know if anyone on here has had cataract surgery after being highly short sighted but I would be interested to hear of others' experiences. I need to discuss my options with my doctor, I think the ideal outcome would be to reduce my myopia to a degree and to do away with the need for varifocals but still need glasses for a everyday use for the remaining myopia. It would be nice to reduce the level of my myopia to a point where I can get about without glasses if I ever need to but I worry that my surgeon will think I'm mad if I say I want to still need glasses with maybe -6 or -10 lenses after surgery.

slb 30 Nov 2016, 03:19

Saw this interesting article - not clear which thread it fits best in.

Crystal Veil 29 Nov 2016, 01:57


they are getting smarter and smarter, aren't they? It looks like this improved technology could also be of use for people with ADHD who are unable to concentrate long enough for the subjective eye test. A few days ago, I did an eye test with one of my models who said that she might need an increase. It was an outdoor test, mainly done with glasses instead of a trial frame. The model has a very mild prescription [L: -0.75 / R: -0.50] and only glasses were used with the same -0.25 difference between both eyes. The third pair [L: -1.50 / R: -1.25] gave her perfect eyesight and it was great to hear her excited reaction. But it came as a shock when she took off the glasses and realized that her eyesight had gone worse than she assumed. I gave her the stronger glasses on loan and she will try them out at ease over the next two weeks. The plan is that she will take her own glasses and the stronger pair to an optician who will do the subjective eye test with her. It will be interesting to hear the results of that eye test compared with what we measured in the street in the way glasses were sold at markets before the arrival of optician's shops.

Likelenses 29 Nov 2016, 00:18

The university study on increasing high myopia in adults over forty that Cheryl was enrolled in back in August of this year,has begun using a new type of refraction device.

The study involves a control group ,of which Cheryl is a part.People in this group are kept in a perfectly accurate prescription,and all participants are examined monthly.She has had her sphere increased twice. The first was in September,by -.50 each eye,and again last week,by-.25 each eye.

The newest equipment is posted below.

I was able to in the exam room with her,and watch how it is done.

Lance 23 Nov 2016, 06:58

Cactus Jack

She's going to call her Eye Doctor today and see what she has to say about it. They may want to see her or they may want to wait to see what the meds do before they change her prescription.

If I had to guess I would say its her astigmatism. A few years back she had a big jump in her right eye. When she read the chart at her GP's it was the left that she had the most trouble with.


Cactus Jack 21 Nov 2016, 21:25


I can't answer the question about Thyroid. I urge you to see an Eye Care Professional to determine if her vision problems are Thyroid related. Many health issues can cause changes in vision. People with Diabetes often have vision changes as their Blood Glucose level fluctuates.


Cactus Jack 21 Nov 2016, 21:21


An increase in the ADD is normal as Presbyopia progresses. However, it will never get to much more than+2.50 or +3.00 depending on how close she likes to read and her visual environment. As she gradually looses the ability to focus close, she may find Computer Glasses useful. Most displays are around 20-25 inches from the eyes and +2.50 is too much for that distance. You can calculate ADD power by the formula:

Lens Power = 1 meter (100 cm, 1000 mm, or 39.37 inches / Target distance in the same units.

I just posted "How to Study for an Eye Exam" on the Astigmatism thread. It might be helpful


Lance 21 Nov 2016, 20:57

My wife had an eye exam February 2016 and came out with a slightly stronger prescription

OD -.75 -2.25 100

OS -1.25 -1.50 72

ADD +1.75

Her ADD had increased by +.25 and here CYL in her left eye increased by-.25.

Last week she turned 45 and started to complain that she was having trouble seeing. Yesterday she was helping me on a shoot and was complaining that her eyes weren't working properly, Today she saw her GP for her yearly check up and he had her read the eye chart. Even with her glasses on she could only read the line above the target. Her left eye was much worse. Driving home today she couldn't make out the license plate in front of us.

She had chalked this up to being tired and doing a lot of reading for Grad school as well as seasonal allergies. The doctor today thinks that it could be related to her thyroid since vision changes and some of her other symptoms support the Thyroid theory. We are waiting to get the test results back.

She is hoping that its just the thyroid and once they get it under control her vision should return to normal. I suggested an eye test but she wants to wait. Has anyone heard of this before. Are the changes (if it is thyroid) temporary?

Over the past 10 years her SPH has decreased and she has had an ADD for the past 3. Her astigmatism has also increased slowly over the years as well. She used to be able to look at her phone without her glasses but over the past few weeks that too has been a struggle.

Is this normal progression or is this all related to her thyroid?

SoCal 19 Nov 2016, 16:23

The eye exam went well and walked out with the same contacts rx but a slightly different rx for glasses. Contacts is -3.0 in each eye but glasses is L: -2.75 -.50 x140 and R: -3.0. My only problem now is that my vision with contacts is super clear and crisp like before with my old contacts but when I wear my glasses that are also -3.0 each eye, I find myself squinting a lot, especially at night.. not sure if that tiny astigmatism change will make things better. Follow up is on 12/1

SoCal 15 Nov 2016, 11:53

Okay, going in for an exam on Thursday and I'm worried about not having the same rx. I am content with where I am but a little anxious about it going down because that means that my night vision will suffer. The only reason I am going in is because my contact rx is expired and I'm in dire need of a renewal. No, glasses full time is not for me. Any advice would be helpful.

Soundmanpt 11 Nov 2016, 09:25


Thanks for clearing that up. You're correct, you are in fact getting bifocals. With your glasses on your eyesight should be unchanged when looking at things in te distance. You do have the smallest possible prescription in your left eye which I really doubt you will even be able to tell any difference from your right eye which has no correction for distance. The bottom third of your lenses is your reading help. Of course you're going to have to learn that when you want to read something you won't do what you have been doing your whole life by simply looking down with your head. Now you will be focusing your eyes through the bottom segment of your lenses of your glasses. When your driving, watching TV and most everything you will be looking through the upper two thirds of your glasses and everything shouldn't look any different to you than it does now without glasses. So you and Nick were supposed to get your glasses yesterday, so are you now trying to get used to wearing glasses? At first it is very normal to fidget with them and have them off and on quite a bit as well until they start to become comfortable to you. With everyone in your family already wearing glasses are you looking forward to wearing glasses now as well?

Marge 11 Nov 2016, 08:58

This is complicated, so let me explain my question..I looked on line but found no answers but found this site.

1. Years ago I had some difficulty with small print,and went for an eye exam. Surprisingly I was prescribed bifocals, that were -0.50 with a +1.25 add. They made my distance vision more crisp, and close clearer and bolder, but I didn't enjoy wearing them. I inquired about contacts and got some multi-focals, which I only sometimes wore because it was hard to adapt to them. Then I went for a new exam and the dr said that instead of paying so much for mult-focals, I should go disposable monovision, which I did and they are great. So I started wearing +1.00 in my left eye and -.75 in my right eye, but not all the time.

2. Now, about 2 years later, I realize that without glasses or contacts I think I have developed monovision. Without lenses or contacts I cannot read at all with my left eye, and cannot read signs with my right eye. I went for a new eye exam, and was prescribed +1.50 for my left eye, and -1.25 for my right eye. If I wear just one contact, then my vision feels identical...with the +1.50 only all distance is blurry while with only the -1.25 I cannot read.

Being that I can still see distance pretty well with my left eye and close pretty well with my right eye, I wonder if the glasses/contacts have weakened each eye? Should I be leary of trying the glasses again, that will likely make me more full-time dependent on the glasses?

Soundmanpt 10 Nov 2016, 18:59


Isn't it funny how you were just fine before you got glasses with how everything looked. But now everything looks so much brighter and as you say you really like the crispness you get wearing your glasses. I'm sure that you can still see quite well without your glasses but just not as good as with your glasses. If your glasses are only slightly making seeing your computer screen easier than you need to be wearing your glasses so your not straining. It must have been really nice the first time you looked out your window after you got your glasses and was able to see even the leaves on the trees. Your not the first one that has avoided or put off getting glasses as long as possible. Like you say, it seems silly now doesn't it? But you didn't hold off as long as some have. You picked out glasses that you really liked which is always a good start because if you didn't like them you probably wouldn't want to wear them. Or you would wear them as little as possible. Also it never hurts when people see you for the first time wearing glasses that they complement you on how nice they look on you or how nice you look wearing glasses. Not surprising that your colleagues wanted to try them on. That alone is a complement or they wouldn't care to even try them. Yeah i'm sure your glasses must have seemed like they were looking through plain glass compared to their own glasses. I'm sure if you tried their glasses you weren't able to see anything wearing them. Anyway it seems that you have already decided that wearing glasses isn't any big deal at all. And how nice it is to see everything so clearly now. Good for you.

Jamie 10 Nov 2016, 18:57


The +0.50s are under add.

vanessa 10 Nov 2016, 16:18

Yes it seems that I am wearing them most of the time, I really like the crispness, whilst I could get around with them perfectly fine and still read my computer screen, I sit facing a window and enjoy being able to look out and see clearly. My friends and family knew that I was going for an eye test, I have chosen a pair that I really like and received positive comments, some colleagues have said it's like looking through glass but they said their prescription is like -6 and worse. I had a big issue with admitting I needed glasses and getting an eye test but it just seems silly now, I like seeing clearly and things in detail so i will carry on wearing them!

Soundmanpt 10 Nov 2016, 16:09


Good to hear that you didn't put off getting your glasses adjusted because if you didn't then you most likely wouldn't be wearing your glasses at times when you probably need them. Now that they fit good you will be surprised at how fast wearing glasses will become very comfortable and you will soon get to the point you will hardly even think about wearing them. It sounds like you're not having any trouble adjusting to your glasses. You're already very close to wearing your glasses full time in just the few days you have had your glasses. Even before you got your glasses you knew that you now need to wear glasses for driving. You didn't plan on wearing your glasses for work but most computer monitors are just far enough away that your glasses almost certainly make seeing your screen a little bit easier. After wearing your glasses most of the day do you notice that things seem much more blurry than before you got your glasses? That's completely normal because your glasses are allowing your eyes to relax much more than before when you were straining your eyes to see things. Your glasses aren't very strong but their not too weak for you to wear them full time.

So were your friends, family and co workers surprised to see you wearing glasses? Did you get lots of positive comments and complements? You don't seem even a little bit shy about wearing glasses?

George1968 10 Nov 2016, 16:07


Aren't you basically wearing your glasses fulltime? It seems like you have them on over 90% of the day.

vanessa 10 Nov 2016, 15:27

Soundmanpt, I took my glasses to get adjusted and they fit and feel much better, im not getting the ache and indentation now. I am finding that it's easier to keep them on at work, the computer screen seems ever so slightly better with them on. I guess I am wearing them most of the day, driving to work, keep them on most of the time at work, and wear them when I'm watching TV at home.

Soundmanpt 09 Nov 2016, 16:57


Based on what you posted as being your prescription all the numbers would indicate that your glasses should be single vision with the very weakest prescription for reading in your left eye (+.25) That number should be listed under where it says SPH on your prescription slip. Then the next numbers based on how you have it written should be listed under the CYL on your slip? Now I did notice that you didn't post anything for an axis number for either eye. Are those +.50 numbers under where it says add? If so then you are in fact getting bifocals with really hardly any prescription for distance except the +.25 for your left eye. Did you tell the doctor that you wanted to be able to wear your glasses full time? I ask that because if you only need your glasses for reading your prescription is weak enough that he could have just prescribed you with single vision glasses for reading with the right eye being +.50 and left eye being +.75. But if you are in fact getting bifocals you will be able to wear them full time and still be able to see distances perfectly fine. I assume if your getting bifocals that you're likely getting progressives which don't have a line. Just be careful when you get them when you're going up or down steps. And even more careful if you're wearing high heels. You don't want to look down.

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