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Reenan 17 May 2018, 03:22

I have a brand new -38 pair for sale. Pure titanium frame, reasonably lightweight.

If anyone is interested I can post photos then list it on eBay.

Cactus Jack 08 May 2018, 05:18


Yes, you will still need an Add in your GOC glasses. Here is my suggestion, Right eye first.

OD (R) Sphere -4.75, Cylinder -0.25, Axis 5, Add +1.50

OS (L) Sphere -4.75, Cylinder -0.25, Axis 15, Add +1.50

I also suggest ordering a trial pair of very inexpensive single vision glasses from an online retailer such as Zenni. IF your distance vision is good the the GOC combo, try a pair of +1.50 OTC readers over them to make sure you also like the combo for close work. If you like what you see, then order the glasses you really want to wear with the CLs.

Please remember that GOC is not an exact science so there are no guarantees. Also, if you do not already wear CLs, you need an exam to get the Base Curve, Diameter, and Brand of Contacts. You need for the CLs to have good Oxygen permeability and Moisture characteristics. If you don't, you probably will not be able to wear them very long, with comfort.


Sparky 07 May 2018, 23:06

Hi .also I cannot read at all without my glasses.will I be able to read with the minus glasses combo.please could you provide the full prescription for my glasses.if I will need the add.i currently wear multifocals.thanks

Sparky 07 May 2018, 21:07

Sorry about the limited full prescription is L +4 -0.25×15 .R +4 -0.25×5 .Add 1.50.will I still need the add in the minus glasses.

Cactus Jack 07 May 2018, 10:09


Based on your limited information, I should suggest +8.50 CLs.

-5.00 glasses are just strong enough to have some Vertex Distance effects at the Cornea. The calculations indicate you need +4 to correct your Hyperopia and then another +4.70 to compensate for the -5.00 glasses. Above about +8.00, CLs only come in 0.50 increments. I would go with +8.50 CLs and let your Ciliary Muscles make up the small addition al PLUS.

If you have accommodation issues, It may be necessary to drop down to -4.75 in the GOC glasses.

Please remember that GOC is not an exact science. There are no guarantees that the combo will be comfortable.


Sparky 07 May 2018, 05:59

Hi .I need some prescription has changed to +4 both eyes.i want to try -5 glasses.what sphere contact lenses will I need.thanks

NJ 13 Apr 2018, 10:23

Jb, that's a find! Hydrasoft sphere aphakic lenses do go up to +30! Wow!

Inglasses 13 Apr 2018, 10:12

Understand the buzz NIgel... feel the same when I wear very strong glasses

Jb 13 Apr 2018, 06:57

Re plus contacts- strongest I've seen off the shelf are +30. Hydrasoft sphere, bc 8.6, dia 14.2, pwr +30.

There's one thats 32 I think but diam is small and difficult to fit.

NJ 13 Apr 2018, 05:00

Reenen, I don't know of any place that offer CLs stronger than +20. Maybe there are specialty places that do, but all the places I've seen stop at +20, which, depending on the vertex distance, would work for -27D to -30D glasses for an emmetrope.

Nigel 12 Apr 2018, 17:05


Like you I put in contacts and enjoy the blur. And also I go out wearing strong glasses without contacts. The buzz I get being visually challenged is immense.

Reenan 12 Apr 2018, 15:23

Hi, does anyone know where to get CL over +30 online? I can’t do RGP, so vial lenses are the only viable option. I’d like something around +38.

0ptix 12 Apr 2018, 13:45


As a person with almost perfect vision i love to wear contacts of different strength just to see worse and go around like that.

Without the resulting myopia or hyperopia or astigmatism to be corrected with glasses.

I like to put in contacts first thing in the morning to make me see like a minus 10 myope(for example) and try to go to the bakery to buy something for breakfast without any correction.

I like to have the suitable Glasses in a case of emergency...but prefer to manage without glasses as good as possible.

I know that this post as much as to here belongs to the "going without glasses" thread...

It just gives me very special feeling to see as bad as the girl with the the strong glasses may see if she would not wear correction.

Anybody here with similar feelings, experience...?

In other words:

The most xiting part of GOC is the time when you take of the glasses.

til 12 Apr 2018, 13:30

Hi Miku,

don't know if it makes sense, I only had it with red and only when wearing minus glasses over plus contacts. I was thinking in the direction of eye misalignment, as the good old 3D images produced their effect by looking through coloured filters at the 3D images. Don't know if that makes sense though.

Miku 12 Apr 2018, 12:09

Hi Til,

I think I know what you're talking about. I get something similar while doing GOC, with blue light, usually originating from a LED. Something similar happens when I'm wearing slightly stronger + glasses than my normal prescription, but usually later in the evening, when I'm potentially tired.

Does this make sense?


til 12 Apr 2018, 11:11


til 12 Apr 2018, 11:10

Is anyone else getting a 3D effect when wearing GOV and looking at red colours on screen?

 30 Mar 2018, 16:01

Can someone provide a list of retailers that sell contact lenses without requiring prescriptions? Your assistance is greatly appreciated!!!

LIP 30 Mar 2018, 04:08


Thank you!That's my Dream, a minimum of -10 !

Specs4Me 29 Mar 2018, 13:56

I had cataract surgery and explained to the surgeon my ECP had sent me to what I wanted to do. He said it was a little unusual but not unheard of and proceeded to take necessary measurements to calculate the lens strength needed. I asked for a minimum of -10 and to err in his calculations on the high side.

I'm in the US, not willing to be more specific.

Lip 29 Mar 2018, 06:35


I don"t believeit!

Did that really happen? I do GOC full time(-8 -13 and -17, which is my preference.)-17 I use most times,but only half the day . I would love to wear -12/-13 full time without contacts, but my ECP says nobody will perform surgery if its not necessary?

Do you mind if I ask where you had it done ?

Specs4Me 28 Mar 2018, 07:49

For the past 15 years or so, I have been wearing GOC full time. I was prescribed the combo by my ECP, I started with about -5 glasses and ended up with -9 or so.

I recently have had cataract surgery, I requested that the final result be -10 or so. The Dr. nailed it, or actually surpassed my request. I'm currently wearing -12.75 glasses and no contacts and loving it.

Cactus Jack 28 Feb 2018, 23:22


Regrettably, I don't have any CL brand suggestion. Because of Dry Eye issues, I had to quit wearing the CLs of any brand for any reason.

Perhaps some of our other members can suggest some different brands to try.

Soft CLs are normally pretty forgiving. Often a Brand will only make one or two different Base Curves. One of the reasons for getting a professional fitting of your first CLs is to take advantage of the ECPs experience in fitting CLs to your eyes.

They are very hard to find, but there are some ECPs (particularly younger ones) who understand GOC and are willing to help you get a good combo. that you can wear comfortably.


Soyuz 28 Feb 2018, 21:58

Thank you very much for quick answer.

Whatvother trademark of CL could you suggest at that range of prescription?

This sliding happned only on one eye but there a few times. Right after placing the CL slides out on the eye in an invisible place. The CL is only in one size diameter available as far as I remember.

Cactus Jack 28 Feb 2018, 21:41


I suspect the contacts sliding out of position may be related to an incorrect base curve. The itchy feeling could be related to the CLs not fitting right. Also, while you need good tearing action for your CLs to work right, there might be excessive solution trapped between the CL and your Cornea which would allow it to float out of position.

Were your BC and Diameter professionally prescribed?

I tried Proclear several years ago for GOC, primarily because of the cost and also found them uncomfortable after a while. I think they did not have really good moisture or oxygen transmission. You might try a different brand.

Another trick you might try if you think there is too much solution trapped between the CL and your Cornea. After you insert them press very gently on the CL with your solution wetted finger to help them get into position, before you blink.

Please let me know if any of this makes sense.


Soyuz 27 Feb 2018, 23:26

Hi Everyone.

I started particularly GOC approx a year ago as I have ordered first prescription glasses from Zenni. Contact lenses are Proclear +15 both side, glasses both with some astigmatism approx -18 both. My eyes are good enough not to wear glasses in everyday life but I felt obsessed with them. I have started with Zenni then I have ordered an other one from Firmoo with same parameters.

Zenni: this is not a myodisc, thick lenses, easy wear, comfortable and adorable. Frame broke after half a year but maybe it was my fault to travel with in case and bag many times.

Firmoo: I recieved a myodisc with a little bit visible bowl in them (more visible on that side where I have more astigmatism, that side is a little bit thicker as well). Frame quality is good, weight is much less, but smaller frame means less roundview, but viewquality with myodisc seems sharper.

Contacts: sometimes I put them in and in one eye it slides somewhere up on side that I dont know where it is hidden. I have tonwait half day or the night that it slides back again and I can take it out. What is the problem?

Monthly contacts and they are sometimes itchy after 2-3 hours.

I do it occasionally and secretly, I like the feeling wearing them in public, shopping malls. Mainly stairs are problematic. Not many people starred me on:(

I have a glasses with -20, maybe I will order +17 lenses to be able to wear them. I know for GOC it is more adviseable to start with smaller desciption but the feeling is fantastic. Thanks for some advises from this forum and wish u all to have some similar experience.

Cactus Jack 16 Feb 2018, 09:08

GOC guy,

If you are doing it right, it should only take a few times inserting and removing the lenses correctly to discover that it is not difficult or painful.

You might check out some online videos.

A few questions:

1. What is your complete actual prescription?

2. What are your GOC combo prescriptions?

3. What type CLs are you using? (for example: One day disposables, Weekly, etc.)

4. What type solution are you using?

5. Where do you live? (country)

6. Have you had any formal instruction in Insertion and Removal of CLs?


GOC guy 16 Feb 2018, 06:02

Hey, i was from another thread asking about GOC. my trial lenses came through and maybe im just stupid but how long does it take to get used to simply putting them in. seems i have too much resistance wanting to push my eyelids in deforming the lens before it gets to my eye.

Any tips?

Billy A 14 Feb 2018, 11:02


This was my first idea, but in my location there's nobody fitting color contacts. And every contact lens is different. The same bc and dia is not the same...

astigmaphile 14 Feb 2018, 10:54

Tell the eye doctor that you want contacts to change the color of your eyes. That should work.

Billy A 14 Feb 2018, 10:36

I have one question - how you got your contacts fitted /with right bc, diameter../ if you have 20/20 vision??? In my case, I told thruth. Yes, I want plus contacts to wear with minus glasses. But... It wasn't easy to find "the right optician". A lot of them told me I'm crazy, weird, etc... I'm asking because there's a lot of people who have ordered contacts from internet just by diopters and never got eyes tested.

Have you any ideas how to get contacts from professional, if you have perfect vision? I'm very interested about your experience :)

Billy A 09 Feb 2018, 00:51

As I posted - share pics of face/body/property etc is very stupid and dangerous. I have very bad experience about sharing more..

Be sure, that my posts (and me) are 100% real :)

High Myopic 08 Feb 2018, 17:13

Billy A. Do you have pics of the -40 myodisc glasses?

Billy A 08 Feb 2018, 16:17

I have one "friend with benefits".. She wears -3.5 glasses. One night, before "the act" she asked me, why I want to continue with the glasses on. So I told her about my glasses fetish and about GOC... She said just "ok"... A few weeks later, she told me, that she has something very special, just for my pleasure.. -40 myodiscs in beautifull frames!!! Holly ****... :) She told me that she is not glasses fetishist, but she wants to satisfie me as well as she can do..

Such a big luck? Maybe, but I think this is just because I was open to talking about my GOC and glasses :)

 08 Feb 2018, 06:57


She seems very accepting, I think she prefers me wearing strong glasses, or so she has said!

I've been considering getting a milder GOC combo that I can wear more often and I've also been tempted by these "overnight" lenses that can be worn for prolonged periods as I think it would give a much more realistic experience but I also balance that with the risk.

Brooklynboy 07 Feb 2018, 17:30


I find it very cool that your partner and you have a relationship where you can goc without any problems. I wish i had the same, when i tried to explain the whole goc idea i received a look like i was crazy. So decided to not continue. I dnt really know whats the situation here but for now i normally do goc in places where i know people doesnt know me. Im sure some of the people here might relate to.

I will probably order a “lighter goc combo” and see what happens.

Thank you for your input

tsk 06 Feb 2018, 06:19

Brooklyn Boy -

Having previously done minus glasses with GOC I thought I'd try plus (my partner prefers the look of plus glasses).

My normal prescription is around +0.75, I went for some +7 glasses. First few times wearing were odd but I got used to them around the house and was able to wear them for a trip out with a lot of success. Around 12 hours a day in total and only really stopped because the glasses were hurting my ears!

BrooklynBoy 31 Jan 2018, 14:04


You are right, high plus glasses are very tricky. I found my self not being able to wear them for more than 10 or 15 minutes. Walking around is terrible and I find myself trying to look out of the lenses so i can get a better idea to wear to step. But it is very cool, my eyes are very big and my vision is good, specially close up. I do get somewhat of double vision when looking at distance.

Anyways, I will keep trying.

JC 31 Jan 2018, 12:05

Guest --

The -4 glasses will have an effective power of maybe -3.75 or -3.8 depending on how far they sit from your eyes. The bigger effect is that wearing the glasses you might have just slightly too much minus power, which depending on your age you probably easily adapt to using a little accommodation -- basically holding a slight focusing tension all the time. It is probably such a small amount that I doubt you'd notice it.

Guest 31 Jan 2018, 10:38

I do full time GOC, I use +2.00 contacts and find that with my own -1.50 prescription I see perfectly well with my -4.00 specs. Does this mean that the +2.00 contacts are effectively more like a +2.50 with them sitting directly on the eye?

Nev 30 Jan 2018, 09:52


Please drop me a line to chat about GOC plus

JC 30 Jan 2018, 08:02

BrooklynBoy --

I am naturally around -4 and often do GOC to around -10. A few moths ago I started trying GOC to about +5.5. The adaptation to plus lenses definitely takes longer, especially for you and I who have worn minus lenses for so long. The relative motion of the image you see when you move your head is more then you expect. This caused a little motion sickness but within a few hours I was adapted and see everything mostly normal now. The larger image size can be nice when trying to see something detailed.

In the end I decided I just like minus glasses and myopia better. I'm 37 so should be on the way towards lower accommodation, but even still wearing the contacts that make me a hyperope at least in bright light I see most things just fine. I feel much more inhibited even without GOC with my natural myopia. Even in lower light when as a hyperope everything is real blurred I like howb as a myope I can always get closer to something to see it whereas as a hyperope if I can't accommodate enough to see it then I just can't see it. I also prefer the look of minus lenses.

Be careful on steps or stepping on or off a curb while wearing the plus lenses! The step is not as big as it looks to you.

BrooklynBoy 30 Jan 2018, 06:10

Hi everyone, I want to share a recent experiment that I had with GOC. I have done GOC for quite sometime now, my current RX is -5 and I have done GOC up to -15. I recently decided that I would like to try to wear a + glasses. So after a quick look on the GOC table, I decided to get +8 glasses. Yesterday after my glasses came in, I was able to first experience and enjoy my + combo.

I found that the magnification was too much to take. I can see things quite clear. I believe that the Combo I ordered is good. But I can't function properly while wearing it. Everything is much closer than what they actually are.

Even though, it was quite an experiment. Anyone here ever tried + GOC? I'm wondering if this is something that my brain has to get used to it.

Just though I would share this new experience.

By the way, thank you to whoever created the GOC table.

Cactus Jack 20 Jan 2018, 07:48


Sounds like the combo works pretty well. One of the things you have to get used to with high prescription glasses is how important it is to look thru the Optical Center (Centre) (OC)of the lenses. Another is the Barrel Distortion and possible Chromatic Aberration that occurs.

If you wear the combination a lot, your brain will learn to keep your eyes looking thru the OC and ignore other optical distortions and phenomena.

Please let us know your experiences.


Minusglassesguy 20 Jan 2018, 05:27

My glasses arrived and wow...they are so thick. My eyes look so tiny through the lenses. I can see perfectly through the centre of lenses but looking just off centre everything is a little distorted.

sparky2k 17 Jan 2018, 07:00

I too have sent multiple queries to O4L, and received no response.

Trent 16 Jan 2018, 19:31


I am still on their mailing list and received and email from them a short time ago. I hope things work out for you.

kelsey 16 Jan 2018, 17:35

Has anyone had problems getting O4L to respond to a GOC request? Are they still in business? I've tried a number of times over several months and they never reply.

gerry 16 Jan 2018, 08:21

Cokebottlejane@AOl .comDon,t deride yourself, wearing glasses is a need but it does not alter your as a person or personality, anyone who judges you on your glasses is not worth knowing. Have fun take good care Gerry xx

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