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Glass Lenses 14 Jul 2018, 19:55


 13 Jul 2018, 10:39

Their are so many people, or at least so many names keep going on about the guys in glasses thread, but why does XXX links never get the same attention? They are and even to a degree because everyone talks that this is only a fetish site now its all lust and depending on what you do on the 18+ end adultery as well, its all sinful.

Gays are perverts, lesbians are perverts and because of how parts of the site are attacked even straight woman are perverts too. So come on then, why are only straight men allowed to be perverts here? What makes you and especially the god fearing ones so special and above everyone that you can get everything you want from this site?

The hypocrisy of this whole website is something else!

 13 Jul 2018, 02:40

Hahahaha. Likelenses. BUSTED!

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Soundmanpt 13 Jul 2018, 00:09

You have been called out for years for your fake accounts, Likelenses. It is because of your activities that people are now attacking me. Spare the pity party from a man who enjoys posting racist crap all the time here. Thanks for bringing everything down to your level here. I suggest you stop posting as other names immediately.

Moonshiner 12 Jul 2018, 21:45

I am the czar of Eye Scene. As your leader, tyrant, despot or what have you, I hereby command all of you to cut this shit out.

 12 Jul 2018, 20:45

If anyone is in control of this site, please stop all this shit before it kills eyescene.

Likelenses 11 Jul 2018, 23:28

11 Jul 2018, 01:28 poster

You are the same mentally ill poster that has been trolling Soundmanpt, and posting under many names, including mine.

I have called you out before.

Your mental illnesses arise out of the fact that you are unable to perform with a woman, so have reverted to sex with other men.

As with most homosexuals, while you enjoy what you do, you are also disgusted with yourself, and your life.

You actually are a pathetic low form of human life.

I know a lot more about you personal life. Isn't the world wide web utterly amazing!

 11 Jul 2018, 01:28

Likelenses racist posts are what brought this website down. Own UP, pretty boy.

Likelenses 11 Jul 2018, 01:09

These posts are really getting out of hand.

murky 10 Jul 2018, 23:51

Since Moonshiner has died, his site has gone downhill.

Mara 10 Jul 2018, 21:58


All the while the other hand is pumping his organ.

Nora 10 Jul 2018, 19:34

The sound that Soundman hears, is the sound of one hand clapping.

Carrie 10 Jul 2018, 17:48

@Soundmanpt you are making a terrible spectacle of yourself. It's a dreadful shame.

Soundmanpt 10 Jul 2018, 17:44

I highly suggest you stop this madness and stop posting as me!

The last post was not from me.

 10 Jul 2018, 17:40

We understand you are having mental issues as you described, Soundmanpt. Sometimes you deny making posts that you really did make. Because of your blackouts. It's okay. The first step to treatment is getting away from denial. Maria and Nora have already forgiven you.

You don't have to keep it going on all day long. We recognize your issue. Please get help.

Soundmanpt 10 Jul 2018, 15:19

Comment posted "10 Jul 2018 13:33" was not from me.

I can keep this nonsense up as long as you can.

I'm sure it is very uninteresting to everyone trying to figure out who is who. Not my fault,

Soundmanpt 10 Jul 2018, 13:33

Sorry, but that last post was not from me.

LikeGlass 10 Jul 2018, 13:07

Simply post the IP address next to the name. Easy to code and will probably cut the problem in half.

$ipaddy = $ENV{'HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR'}.'-prx';

if($ipaddy eq '-prx') {$ipaddy = $ENV{'REMOTE_ADDR'}.'-ra'};

$name.' '.$ipaddy;

Brian 10 Jul 2018, 08:47

We need a sign in verification system. otherwise the site seems doomed.. Almost need the system the site used in late 90's early 2000s.. or similar to what they use at Vision and Spex.

Soundmanpt 10 Jul 2018, 07:46

I love how my name is constantly being thrown out their. I am pretty sure that the real Nora" didn't make any of the recent comments.

I'm glad that "Moonshiner" stepped up and put up his own money to keep this site up and alive. But I really wish he would monitor it better as well. Trust me if someone ever woul figure out a good way to make this site more secure by having a better sign-in I will be jumping for joy because it would once and for all clear my name and prove that as I have maintained for a long now that I have never sued any other name other than "Soundmanpt" That way all my accusers could go back under the rock they crawled out from under.

Nora 09 Jul 2018, 20:17

Weirdeyes 09 Jul 2018, 18:36

The posts on this thread are not me

If they are not from you, then they must be from Soundmanpt/

Weirdeyes 09 Jul 2018, 18:36

The posts on this thread are not me.

Weirdeyes 09 Jul 2018, 15:17

In my previous post, I came out of the closet regarding my sexual preferences.

I have many other mental, and emotional hang ups, many which are related to my attraction to, and desire to need minus glasses, but I am stuck in bug eye plus, with weird prisms.

Nora 09 Jul 2018, 15:09

It appears that Weirdeyes is like Carrie, an open perverted lesbian.

Of course, another explanation could be that both of them are also Sounder.

Therouteur 09 Jul 2018, 00:03

@Stand UP I think that by the tone of your response to me you've pretty much summarised what is wrong here now. We used to have civil and respectful, occasionally witty discussions. Now we seem to only have the clenched fist and ranting. The site has ceased to be moderated. I'm not American and I'm frankly not interested in participating in the madness and rudeness which now seems to characterise American political discourse from all sides. Sadly, after 20 years, I remove Eye Scene from my bookmarks

Yoyo 08 Jul 2018, 20:16

What difference does it make if I am Chinese? That word is a racial slur, full stop.

Weirdeyes 08 Jul 2018, 14:57

STFU moron dickhead.

WE want nearsighted women who refuse to wear glasses and squint as hard as possible to see better.

WE want sexy hot nearsighted women who borrow other people's glasses to see better.

WE want women who refuse to get lasik and live in a blurred world.

YOU can go shove your thumb up your ass and ROTATE.

Glasses First. MGFA! 08 Jul 2018, 03:53

We (here) want Glasses First.

Republican, Democrat, Socialist, Communist, whatever... Go elsewhere. We really don't care about your opinions... We just want Glasses First here! Enough of this stupid battlefield, you look like 5 y/o childrens

Moonshiner please Make Glasses First Again




 08 Jul 2018, 00:23


Would Chicom be more appropriate?

 08 Jul 2018, 00:20


Are you Chinese?

Yoyo 07 Jul 2018, 22:30

Someone referred to the Chinese as "chink" in that thread. A plain racist insult. Such language should not be tolerated.

Glass Lenses 07 Jul 2018, 19:06

Stand UP

Pray tell what is racist about these two posts. One tells the TRUTH about slavery, and the other shows how the Communist left in America encourages racism.

Stand UP 07 Jul 2018, 13:42

@Therouteur. Try something new. CONFRONT it rather than wailing a river of crocodile tears to Mommy. Racism and hatred exist because everyone wants to just run away and point fingers from afar instead of standing up like a man against it. It is your duty to fight it just as much as anyone else. If you choose to shirk it and go cry in the corner about it, then the world will never change.

The civil rights movement didn't change things in America by having people keep their mouths shut and whimper all day long. It changed things because people were willing to be brave and confront the wrongs. HEAD on. Be brave. Stop expecting everyone else to do something that you can do yourself.

Therouteur 06 Jul 2018, 22:50

I hate to say this as a twenty year contributor and lurker, but this site appears to be entering a death spiral. See .Is it possible to do something about this?

Brian 05 Jul 2018, 08:59

Its ashame to see all the spamming to this site.. It might be a good idea for users to register to use the site moving forward. I think it would help cut down the spamming..

Gerry 03 Jul 2018, 06:24

Why do the average guy find ladies not so attractive in glasses. Are they judging the lady on looks, there are many beautiful ladies with glasses and personalities to match. Are those guys who seem to have an aversion to ladies wearing glasses settling for second best, Yes ladies wearing glasses are attractive intelligent and sexy, always a plus for me me to see a confident lady wearing her glasses.

 10 Jun 2018, 16:13

OMG you are really naive. I don't think you understand how personal data collection works. They collect your IP address including geographic location, site you visited previously, site you go afterwards, type of operating system, type of computer, which postings you make, which postings you read, which ads you click on, which ads you didn't click on, etc. Over an extended period of time, they develop a profile to know exactly who you are and exactly what your plans and intentions are for visiting the website each time you sign in. These companies then use that information to send you physical junk mail as well as make personal phone calls for solicitation purposes. You can't block them on the FCC website because you signed up to agree to allow them to call you.

Give them a throwaway email address? lololol this isn't 1996 anymore!

 10 Jun 2018, 15:22

Moonshiner is dead.

JC 10 Jun 2018, 12:13

I can see the problem many have with the fakes, but for me at least it is a lot easier to look past them then it is the other trolling, political content, name calling, etc.

After about 20 years I still enjoy seeing what people have found on the web (but it makes me sick to my stomach to see people harassing poor girls with stupid comments and questions after they've been posted here), and I enjoy reading the occasional real life sighting or nearsightning that pops up.

If you can look past the vast majority of nonsense that has been here lately there is still a trickle of real content coming in. Moonshiner please come back and clean it up!

Concerned 10 Jun 2018, 09:53

I agree with the poster below about the fakery being part of the downfall of this site. The problem is that ultimately there is only so much that can be said about glasses, eyesight and girls with glasses. Millions of words have been written on the subject here over the years. However obsessions dont respect this, theyre very insistent and the individual afflicted with the obsession needs to seek out more and more outlandish ways to get their fix. This leads to made up characters and fabricated scenarios in an attempt to steer the discussion in a direction that satisfies the obsession, at least in the short term. The obsession also blinds the individual to reality to a degree and leads them to write things that to an outsider are plainly ludicrous and implausible. Its sad but I think an inevitable extension to what this site exists for. Originally I think it was set up as a kind of support group for people with an optical obsession, a well meaning place for them to discuss related issues and a comforting place for those who in everyday life knew of no one else with same interest. Before Eyescene it was pretty difficult to get ones optical obsession fix but this site and others like it made it so easy and speeded things up. Soon, discussing issues with like minded folk and looking at pictures of girls in myodisks became the norm and ceased to be enough to satisfy the obsession. Hence the fabricated and wild and fanciful scenarios.

I dont bear the fakers ill will but I dont know what the answer is. Professional help? Maybe but Im willing to bet that most optical obsessives enjoy their obsession and wouldnt want to be without it. Such is the pernicious nature of the obsession.

 10 Jun 2018, 09:36

Well if you don't give them any personal data other then a disposable e-mail address then they have nothing to give to anyone. Problem solved.

 10 Jun 2018, 04:42

V&S apparently collects and sends your personal data to advertisers. Right from their site. "When you visit our site, pre-selected companies may use certain information on your device to serve relevant ads and for analytics purpose." Join at your own risk.

 10 Jun 2018, 04:34

The biggest problem with Eyescene has nothing to do with recent trolling. It has to do with the name fakery that has been allowed to volcanically erupt over the past few years. Nothing is real here anymore. I've sat back mostly on the sidelines watching how users with same writing styles are creating multiple names posting repeatedly fake stories over and over. It has grown so old, yet they try to validate their fakery by saying the fake users have been here for years. Yes, we know.. they have been faking those stories for many years now. Longevity doesn't prove anything. It's no wonder everyone left and people are just mocking it. There isn't anything left good here.

 09 Jun 2018, 16:21


Concerned 09 Jun 2018, 15:26

Any genuine posters who have declared their intention to leave are just letting the trolls win. Its not as though they have anything of merit to say, they just post mindless repetitive drivel. Its probably just one deranged individual anyway. Lets face it, anyone who has nothing better to do than post naive, childish, grammatically incorrect and badly punctuated racist and homophobic comments probably deserves our pity. Just ignore him/her and lets get Eyescene back on track. Please.

JC 09 Jun 2018, 13:12

Unfortunately yes, someone could easily register multiple names, and IP address can easily be changed to show as coming from anywhere in the world by using an inexpensive VPN service. Registering usernames however does cure the trolls posting under established names. Short of requiring someone to submit a photo ID when registering I don't see how you can eliminate the possibility of someone living out their multiple personality fantasy.

But really, does anyone really think the possibility of someone posting under different names is the number one problem with this site right now? At least if it is happening it is on-topic content. The problem we have here is the rampant tolling, political content, name calling, etc. What eyescene really needs is for the moderator to step up to remove the off topic madness and ban the IPs (which is just a whack-a-mole game for the reason I stated above but is better then nothing). I really hope moonshiner does step up, or we all do finally decide to move to vision-and-spex once and for all. The reason I haven't is it seems to me that site is more centered around fictional stories -- there is nothing wrong with that except for that it simply isn't my cup of tea.

I'm sentimental and attached to eyescene -- if I remember right I first found this community when I was in high school and I just had my 20th reunion. Let's hope moonshiner returns!

LikeGlass 09 Jun 2018, 06:46

I suggested this years ago and will suggest it one more time:

A small change in code that puts the IP address of the poster next to the name. Even if you mathematically create a number based on the IP address, the result will be a fairly consistent number. If you then see a series of posts by "different people", but who have the same number after their name, it will kind of say it all.

Yes, ISP's usually rotate IP addresses, but that is usually over a period of time, and the chances of X having the same IP as Y is pretty slim.

Soundmanpt 09 Jun 2018, 06:25

Then what you're saying is that that is no way to fix eyescene? So there is no way for anyone to prove they are just one person and not multiple people? I really hope you're wrong about that.

 08 Jun 2018, 21:58

of course it doesn't prove anything. it is easy to make multiple accounts on any website requiring sign in.

Puffin 08 Jun 2018, 18:52

I've had enough of this too. All the childish impersonations, name-calling and accusations were bad enough, but bringing politics here is too much.

I'm off to V&S.

Soundmanpt 08 Jun 2018, 16:07


I for one, and only one, couldn't agree with you more. That would finally prove once and for all that I have only come into this forum under the name "Soundmanpt" Of course all my "no name" accusers would never apologize for being wrong.

I love it now I am even being accused of being "moonshiner" At least he knows better. I think the only way "eyescene" can be caved is for some type of sign in format to be in place. Maybe val can help Moonshiner design something like the "Vision and Spexs" site where you have to sign. By the way since that forum requires a sign in format which I am signed into as well as Carrie and several others that I have been accused of being many times doesn't that mean that I am truly who I say I am and that Carrie is in fact who she says she is since we signed in to that forum? Or are we saying that the V&S sign in doesn't work either?

stingray 08 Jun 2018, 14:06

The administrator of this site needs to have everyone create a user name and password to gain entry and perhaps this will stop the insane racist,political and off topic posts!

 08 Jun 2018, 00:59

Same here, i've casually lurked for years. Getting fed up of this

 07 Jun 2018, 23:20

Goodbye as well

Moonshiner is Soundmanpt.

Goodbye as well 07 Jun 2018, 20:54

May all you flag-waving bullies take a long walk off a short pier. Perhaps Moonshiner will restore order should he remove his head from the sand, but I will not be there to see it. Just as well- I can finally seek professional help for this stupid addiction to girls with glasses. Adios.

Former visitor 07 Jun 2018, 20:20

All the good people from the past have left. The only one left is soundstage the blowhard. It is long past time to put this site out of its misery.

Lou 07 Jun 2018, 15:16

Bye Felicia

Lou 07 Jun 2018, 12:58

Owing to the way this site is going, I've decided that I don't want to visit it anymore.

I've never liked the format, which makes it difficult to follow up replies to an opening post which interests me, but that can't be helped. Unfortunately it is made far far worse by the number of posts by trolls. It has gotten to the stage that genuine posts are far far outnumbered by rubbish from trolls.

I'm also sick of being impersonated, again owing to the format. I personally don't care what the troll writes supposedly from me, but I don't want to risk others being offended, and thinking that it is a genuine post from me.

I therefore thought I'd let everyone know once and for all, that I am no longer going to be reading or posting, so any posts from Lou won't be from me but from the troll.

Just in case the troll thinks that they have been successful in getting rid of me, they have, but only because the site as a whole has deteriorated to the point that I no longer want any part of it, and their input is just the very tip of the iceberg.

I hope that the problems on this site get solved and wish all the genuine posters good luck for the future.

This will be my last post, so bye from Lou

Glassesforeveryone 29 May 2018, 02:12

Fhrer, Im no liberal, more a libertarian, but youre both homophobic and racist. Im surprised that you are in pseudo-denial about this, I would have thought that you were proud of both these things?

Not sure what any of it has to do with the context of this site though?

 29 May 2018, 01:19

Shut up, LikeLenses. Just SHUT UP. We all know it is you.

Fhrer 29 May 2018, 00:54

A former lenschat member

So then in your narrow minded opinion anyone that thinks differently about those practicing abnormal sex is a homophobe, and anyone that takes pride in their own race is a racist.

You are the definition of a mentally ill liberal.

A former lenschat member. 27 May 2018, 20:04

Won't someone please just save this website or put it out of its misery.

It's simply getting pathetic that this site now belongs to the racists and homophobes and the odd old member that hasn't yet given up.

Maybe this is the type of site the admin wants and actually everything is fine. It's so hard to tell. . .

Cactus Jack 11 May 2018, 21:05

BTW, I agree that some contributors are not who they pretend to be. I try to stick to the technical side of Vision and Optics and not be judgmental. I am sure that I have responded to some fake posts that are well written and the questions made technical sense.

I rarely respond to an anonymous post, because I need to direct by suggestions specifically to the poster. Can't do that if there is no name.


Cactus Jack 11 May 2018, 20:57

This is not Moonshiner's full time job. I don't know, but I believe he travels quite a bit on business. He took over the site many years ago from Wurm. He sponsors and administers the site on his own time and at his expense.

He might appreciate some help with both of the the above. You might volunteer your services and some Euros toward improving the site.

Personally, I appreciate his efforts.


 10 May 2018, 02:05

The problem is that there are too far many liars and fakes on this website now. People making up stories and using multiple names which converse for awhile and then suddenly disappear forever. Just watch who talks to them most of find the true originator. I guess they get off on these stories. It's sad almost no one posts anything truthful anymore.

If I post something critical, I do it without a name, but then the focus becomes "well big boy who can't even post without a name" because we must be honest and realize we have several immature electronic brats on board here.

So if you take the advice to post without a name, you should be prepared to accept that is what will happen to you as well.

 10 May 2018, 02:01

Yes, good idea noname. I emailed the moderator on and got no response. The platform of this forum is difficult enough with regards to searching for posters' previous posts for cross referencing purposes, but the impersonating is getting intolerable, especially considering that there is no input from the moderator.

There is also the matter of anonymous trolls. Personally I feel that the impersonating is worse, as at least the unpleasant posts with no user name, cannot be mistaken as being from a genuine poster.

I'm undecided whether to stop reading this forum entirely, read but not post, or to post occasionally with no name or identifying information. The way things are going, it will probably be the first!

"not" tinyeyes 09 May 2018, 22:46

Good idea, "NoName". I used to think that a username was required for posting, but obviously, it isn't.

noname 09 May 2018, 15:56

Since the moderator of this site seems to have very little interest in maintaining this formerly interesting place to visit I suggest that the only way that you can beat them is to do what I have done for the past year or so. If I post, which I very seldom do, I post as anonymous, or no name or just post without filling in the name part. The jerks can't troll you this way. And if everyone posted like this they would soon give up because they wouldn't be having any fun jerking your chain.

GreginColo  09 May 2018, 09:32

tinyeyes, I am not sure how to prevent usurping of others usernames to post hateful and inappropriate comments, but rest assured that those of us you have enjoyed your posts overs the years, the sightings and insights you have shared, the thoughtfulness of your responses, quickly realized that the second of the recent posts was not written or posted by you. Hang with us and hopefully people who post as others, or post hateful comments, will become more adult like. Dont let a few, or possibly just one, spoil it for many who enjoy the various threads.

tinyeyes 08 May 2018, 20:59

There has been a lot of unfriendly homophobic posting recently on the Guys in Glasses thread. Most recently someone used my username to post, and I would like for it it be deleted. I emailed about this -- is that the correct way to go?

I'm beginning to think that I will have to say goodbye to this site and posting on it, unless something can be done to control the bad behavior. Is there any way to verify users?

Any thoughts on this?

 03 May 2018, 11:05

Thank you

hooked 03 May 2018, 09:07

 03 May 2018, 08:10


 03 May 2018, 05:21

Is there anyway to contact the moderator of this forum?

gerry 08 Mar 2018, 07:20

Hi specs lovers, gosh their are some very beautiful attractive ladies who use their glasses a fashion item even though they have vet poor vision. They are not only attractive but very sexy gosh i wish i could meet someone like them where i live. Have a lovely day please keep posting more of these beautiful photos tanks Gerry

gerry 19 Feb 2018, 16:56

HI Owlish, what a fantastic set of photos. Gosh that middle aged blond lady is a WOW! She looks fab love her glasses,has a lovely warm smile and a nice personality not every day in the week you will see a lady of such beauty

wearing nice strong minus glasses. Thanks for posting the photos, I must say she did tickle my sex buds. LOL Gerry

LikeGlass 08 Feb 2018, 16:03

Been noticing a lot of server latency as of late. One would think with a text based site, this should not be a problem.

Usually a sign that databases are getting fractured, or the host provider got cheap and choked the data pipe.

In any case, no big deal, but since it is not transitory, I figured I would post it.

Galileo 24 Dec 2017, 21:58

To Moonshiner: Thanks for keeping this site going and have a great Christmas and New Year.

And best of wishes to all the Eyescene regulars

Puffin 24 Dec 2017, 17:37

Ho ho ho merry Christmas!

tatinha 24 Dec 2017, 08:35

I wish you a merry Christmas.

Bobby 24 Dec 2017, 04:21

I would like you all, good and bad, black and white, bespectacled and bareeyed have a merry and happy Christmas and Chanukah. May you all have the privilage to spend the holidays with those you love and who love you. If you can hold their hands, if you can kiss them this evening, you are happy.

Moonshiner 08 Dec 2017, 02:27

I deleted some inappropriate posts (including some using anothers user name) in this thread.

Tatinha 06 Dec 2017, 17:53

Post deleted - Please post on Seen on the Web

Carrie 24 Nov 2017, 14:06

One person kicks up a massive fuss about this website putting up links to photos without permission. Sorry to tell you complainer but, as others have said, the photos are in the public domain and no permission is needed to publish a link to such photos. It would be different if the photo was copied and uploaded to a website with no credit to the original publisher. On Eyescene only links can be posted. If the owner of the photo makes it private then the link won't work.

There are people out there obsessing over women in much creepier and wierder ways than photos of women wearing glasses. Worse still there are people out there who get their kicks from watching child pornography!

Eyescene is completely public and is not aimed at men in particular. Actually there is only one section specifically for posting links to images of women and that's the "Actresses" section. There is a section specifically for images of men "Guys in glasses". All the other sections are not gender specific. What does the complainer think of the links in the "Guys in glasses" section? Are they concerned that there could be straight women looking at those images and pleasuring themselves.

Yes, the majority of the posts are about women but there is nothing stopping women posting about men. Personally, I won't be putting anything much, if anything, about men as I am a woman who prefers women. I am also a glasses wearer who likes wearing glasses and, yes, seeing women in glasses. I look at photos but I don't comment. It may seem hypocritical but my social media is private. I might be in friends photos but no-one on Eyescene would know if it was me if they happened to find such a photo.

I wouldn't be surprised if I found photos of me on websites for people who like women with big boobs, but I am not going to go looking. I could go looking and I could complain but I just can't be bothered. Anyway, none of the photos would show me naked.

Lv2c4i 23 Nov 2017, 05:53

Happy Thanksgiving to 'our' troll who seems to have stolen the identities of several of our community. May the ire and anger you've vented here free you for gratitude and giving thanks in other venues. And may you be always free of all the weakness of which you so readily accuse others.

Thank you as well to all the actual members of our community. Thank you for the sharing of admirations and beauty of sundry sorts here over the past year. May our admiration always encompass the kind of respect for others and their feelings and freedom that our troll accuses us of lacking.

Peace to our planet and to all in our human parade on this day of giving thanks--hope for peace was Abraham Lincoln's idea behind declaring this day of thanks back in the 1860's.

Puffin 15 Nov 2017, 14:59

I wish I had time to write more stories, and in particular another "Dear Diary"; they are so much fun to write.

LiP 27 Oct 2017, 07:29

Has GWG left the eyescene ?

Slit 26 Oct 2017, 10:49

@Dieter, thank you so much for the reply and yes, it's an interesting thing how hyperopia takes over the control of life!

I hope you will get some time to do quality writing soon!

Dieter 23 Oct 2017, 17:18

Guys, you flatter me beyond belief. It's odd that most people seem to enjoy my hyperopic stories. I'm mostly attracted to the look of myopic women but there is something about the idea of the somewhat sudden dependence caused to hyperopes - not the fact that they can't see but the fact that they can't function without glasses.

The demands of work have been frustrating the last few years and I have tried to focus on writing mainstream work but there hasn't even been time for that. I miss writing something, however. I had meant for the "Peyton" stories to be a whole series but only got through Friday and Sunday. The stories that I enjoyed writing the most were "Entrapment?", "Field of Vision", and "Addison's Add". "Taylor's Train Wreck" was actually inspired by a train derailment that occurred near my house so that was fun, too.

You have inspired me to get going again. Give me a little time .....

hyperaficionado 23 Oct 2017, 03:07

@Slit and @Dieter

I miss Dieter's stories too. Many of them evolved around hyperopia which is usually not the case in glasses stories from our regular contributors.



Slit 23 Oct 2017, 00:29

Hi Dieter, glad to hear from you. I miss the stories from you such as "Fantastic Friday", "Super Sunday", "Madison". I really love to do some writing but I always feel my writing is not as good as yours. I can send you some storyboards if you can spare some time to write a new story or two...

Dieter 20 Oct 2017, 19:35

Slit, I'm still around.

Slit 19 Oct 2017, 02:59


are you around?

specs4ever 18 Oct 2017, 19:56

Apologies are in order. Specs4me has advised me that I already posted It's Time back in 2016. I forgot to mark it as published in my listings.

As a penalty I have now posted a new one called The Spies.

Specs4ever 14 Oct 2017, 12:49

New story posted over on Visionandspex called A Time for Glasses.

Lou 26 Sep 2017, 10:26

Hi Val

I believe that you are right, and I had clicked on an ad for antivirus software that tried to induce panic.

I've received your email, and emailed you back to let you know that I have been able to sign on fine. I will ensure that I do not click on the ads.

Thanks very much again.


Val 25 Sep 2017, 13:37

About Vision & Specs:

As Cactus Jack mentioned it below, the first thing to click is the Discussions tab. You will see the posts in reverse order. The most recent one is on the top. This works even if you are not logged in.

If you log in, you will see also if there are new posts. A red dot will appear near the UNREAD tab, and the post will appear with a blue mark on the left.

You can subscribe to a thread, and you will receive an email notification if their is a new post. This also happens when you post in one thread, you will be notified if you have a reply.

If you click on PARTICIPATED tab, you can see your own posts.

For Lou

About the viruses, it is possible the you clicked on an ad that leads you to a antivirus software that tries to induce panic, that your PC is infected. But is a hoax. Please don't click the ads.

I've just sent you an email with a new password.

Please let me know if it is OK.

Lou 24 Sep 2017, 09:03


Last time I tried to go on vision and spex, it wouldn't recognise my log in details. I clicked on a link to notify the administrator or something along those lines. I wonder whether I was on the genuine site because suddenly loud klaxons came out of my pc and a warning came up that my pc had been infected by spyware. I shut the link quickly and ran my anti-virus software. Luckily my pc was pl.

Maybe I was on a phishing site, but I am wondering whether anybody else has had this happen, as to be honest, I haven't tried going on there again, in case the same thing happens.

Best wishes


specs4ever 24 Sep 2017, 06:07

Since it is no longer quite as easy to find new posts on Vision and Spex I will now, and in future, announce here when I post a new one. Hope that meets with people's approval and will realize that I am doing this for peoples convenience.

I have just posted a new one called: "A Lust for Myopia."

Soundmanpt 21 Sep 2017, 09:45

Cactus Jack

Thanks for your help. It used to be an attachment to "Eyescene" but that was what I first noticed. Then I was misspelling it as well.

Cactus Jack 20 Sep 2017, 09:10


There was a revision by the server owner that has made Vision and Spex much harder to use. You will need to log onto the site.

I have not got everything figured out yet, but here is what I have learned.

The initial Forums screen is not very useful. There is no indication of which of the Forums have anything new (e.g. different color). You can scan the date and time of the most recent post in the column on the right.

A better choice is to click on the Discussions tab.

Near the top of Discussions screen are a 4 choices:


If you click on UNREAD, it will give you a list of the posts you have not read. I don't know what the last to do.

At the top of the screen are some icons, If I remember right, the "envelope" will allow you to compose a post.

I really prefer the previous version. As our friends in the UK say, "This version is too clever by half".

I have been in the Computer Hardware and Software creation business for many years. I leaned the hard way that every program is "User Friendly" to the person who wrote it. Ordinary mortals are sometimes SOL. Newly hired programers hated it when I insisted that any programs we wrote and published be intuitive. We wrote manuals, but assumed they would not get read.

This new version of V&S misses that mark by a mile or a kilometer, at least.

Good luck!


Soundmanpt 20 Sep 2017, 06:02

Anyone else besides me having any problem getting into "Vision and Specs"?

 14 Sep 2017, 15:41

Before saying stupid things. Be a little bit clever or don't be lazy and learn what is an affiliation program...

 14 Sep 2017, 15:22

Chaturbate and other sites have started putting up DMCA notices on their feeds. Which means they can't be rebroadcast or used without their permission. That probably ruins the whiny little fuck's business, unless he wants to get sued. I'll be the first in court to watch that little dick get his own for raping this site so many years.

AHMG 14 Sep 2017, 11:37


I can't say that because I don't get paid for click. Yes, I get paid but not with clicks. You can click millions time, it doesn't make me richer.

Glasses Lover 14 Sep 2017, 06:59

All I (and others here as well) wanted was for AHMG to disclose that he was getting paid for clicks on his links. That's all. If he discloses so up front I have zero issues with his links or his contributions. I get his paid site, that's fine. If I were setting up shoots I would expect to get paid for them too. Again, all I want is for him to say "hey, I get credit for clicks on some of the links I post" that's all. Zero issue with him or his content.

REd 13 Sep 2017, 11:19

I would miss you Alain, if you stopped posting. . You are the greatest contributor to this site. Your critics contribute ZERO, RIEN, NIL. But, as you say, "The caravan moves, the dogs bark"

AHMG 13 Sep 2017, 10:55

I'm still here "Glasses Lover" get ready LOL

Glasses Lover 12 Sep 2017, 22:38

Nope. Don't miss AHMG at all. Glad he's gone and his posts too. I click on all links except his. Good riddance.

I'm a teapot 12 Sep 2017, 19:55


I miss the HMG site where you list all the eBay deals. How come you don't update it anymore?

AHMG 12 Sep 2017, 14:53

Missing me?

 12 Sep 2017, 14:37

whatever happened to AHMG? did he finally take his business elsewhere?

Kang R. Rue 10 Sep 2017, 03:08

NNVisitor, you mean it became eyescene too? your words accurately describe the wankers on this site.

Cactus Jack 08 Aug 2017, 04:13


V&S appears to be back up, but my login does not work properly using Cactus Jack and the PW you provided some while back.

Any suggestion?

Please reply to


Soundmanpt 06 Aug 2017, 09:33


No need to apologize. We should be thanking you for keeping V&S up. You are the one paying out of yur pocket to keep it going and for that I thank you.

Val 06 Aug 2017, 07:56

Sorry, sorry

I forgot that in august expires the domain for V&S.

It wasn't set for automatic payment. Because in 2015 they charged me twice.

I am doing the payment now manually.

I hope that in a few ours V&S will be back...

NNVisitor 05 Aug 2017, 23:13

That site has become almost dormant except for the fantasy stories where people always end up wearing glasses. And surprise surprise other family members and friends wind up wearing glasses and love doing so. I wonder if it will continue or not.

Erik 05 Aug 2017, 18:17

It looks like the vision-and-spex domain name expired. I wonder if he decided to give up because of the lack of activity.

Soundmanpt 04 Aug 2017, 13:31

It seems that Vision and Specs is down.

Puffin 31 Jul 2017, 05:34

Perhaps anonymous posters should be banned.

Also ban people from posting from the same url with different names within a few hours or days. If possible, it would stop all this "they're the same person" nonsense.

astigmaphile 30 Jul 2017, 19:34


I know that you and Carrie are both real people and have never doubted either of you. Some people need to find somethiung more constructive to do than be trolls.

Soundmanpt 30 Jul 2017, 11:42


Interesting that you mention "Vision and Specs" because I am signed up in there which Val can atest to and so is Carrie. So since you have to register there that would seem to prove that I am not Carrie as has been suggested by "non name" quite often.

I have no problem at all with this site having that same sign in as V&S has.

Reader 30 Jul 2017, 10:30

Happy Birthday, Tatinha!

astigmaphile 30 Jul 2017, 09:50

I think it is time that a user name and password are required to post on Eyescene. It is that way on vision and specs and I don't see much in the way of rude remarks over there.

lentifan 30 Jul 2017, 08:28

To the last, anonymous, poster

You seem rather obsessive, to put it mildly. To quote yourself, I suggest you get a life. If, as you say, this site is so hard to find, then just accept that no-one is being harmed, go away, and leave us in peace.

 30 Jul 2017, 04:17

NNVIS reminds me of those people who always twist the meaning of words to fit their own situation. What is going on here really? Someone is clearly making up identities so often this has simply become a fictitious writing board and no longer value to anyone. All the real users have left. So a few others decided to make a name, have a conversation, then the name disappears forever and a new one shows. The situations are non-sensical and clearly fake postings generated to satisfy a fetish desire. Bullshit explanations have been offered like how easy it is to find eyescene with a simple google search. Try it sometime. I searched a few minutes ago on eyes and glasses, and after thirty pages, eyescene still doesn't show up in the results. Most people don't go flip beyond thirty pages looking for results, so the conclusion that they find it on google is incredibly naive. If you want to talk about bullying, let's talk about the serious harassment from hot-headed eyescene users who shit over anyone who dares to get to the bottom of this problem. Spewing mouthfuls of diahhrea at the person, enough to fill six toilets. There is nothing wrong with finding out whether this is a fiction board or not. There are categories for fiction stories and fiction should go there. Many of the users who have left were looking for real stories until users started making up bullshit for their fantasies. Stop trying to pass off as sixty different people and get a life. If you think trying to investigate a situation is bullying, I bet you really hate cop drama shows. Stop being a bully and interrogating him. Waah. My feelings are hurting. Grow up. We all want the truth here, you naive wankers. Let's get it. Put all the fiction in the fiction topic. Stop bullying people who raise questions about the fake people posting. I have said enough and I say it anonymously. It is funny how some people here think every single anonymous poster is one person. I know I am not those other people. Accept the fact there are other people who hate what is going on here too. Grow up. Sift out the bullshit fiction and move forward.

NNVisitor 26 Jul 2017, 10:13

There's a word for what the anonymous poster is doing. It's called bullying. It's a tactic used to demean and smear someone's reputation. Dear anonymous poster there is world wide web for you to spend your time on. Lengthy conspiratoral videos. There's Twitter where you can find people to fight with 24/7. We're actually not interested in your bizarre absurd false denigrating accusations. They have nothing to do with how our eyes work, vision and vision correction.

Soundmanpt 26 Jul 2017, 06:42

I Have no problem at all with "Moonshiner" posting my or checking my name in IP address. As I have stated numerous times I have nothing to hide.

Danny 26 Jul 2017, 05:56

The great advantage of a site that does not require password identity log ins is that new people can access information quickly and for free.

As a legally blind poster, this website has been hugely beneficial for me. I'd go as far as life changing. However, moonshiner and Telemann may cemoe big headed.

If you choose to read the posts here then, by default, you also choose to read fiction, half-truth and supreme honesty.

If you do not like the content please go elsewhere.

No one forces you to visit this site.

As adults you choose to click here. Please let moonshiner ban people/Ip addresses as he chooses. He pays the bills.

If you don't lije his decisions, please find a new pastime

And it's raining in London, so I'm being atdacked by umbrellas.

Puffin 26 Jul 2017, 05:27

In Defense of S

I was merely attempting to show how it is possible to make all sorts of ludicrous and baseless claims about someone else here.

The only evidence seems to be that they talk to each other!

Wow! People never talk to each other here...?

gerry 26 Jul 2017, 04:54

HI Owlish, do you have any problems socially do dates ignore you because of your glasses, do you think your attractiveness to guys is based on your glasses. I hope not, because behind many thick glasses wearing people are lovely personalities. Take good care Martin xx

In Defense of S 25 Jul 2017, 17:49

Puffin. It's time to refill your meds.

Sound. I think you should tell Moonshiner to post here every name that has been posted to eyescene by your ip address. That seems like a very simple solution. If you do this, all the disbelievers will see they are wrong. But if you have something to hide you will probably reject this suggestion and everyone still won't believe.

I trust you. But you should know it is very easy for you to spoof post things under a virtual ip address. Telling people you can't be that person because it is two continents is useless. you will find luck with my suggestion.

I think it is best way for resolution. you have told many people here that you have never posted under a new name. i think therefore you should have no fear requesting Moonshiner to do this for you.

Soundmanpt 25 Jul 2017, 14:20


This person doesn't even have "flimsy evidence" He has none at all, only what he wants to believe. Yes I reply to Carrie as well a lot of other people. I have provided more proof that I am who I say I am and only me. But you can only beat a dead horse so much. How much more of a "fake" can you be then when you constantly post with no name much like a snake in the grass.

Soundmanpt 25 Jul 2017, 14:09


Thank you for your kind words of support.

 25 Jul 2017, 14:08

Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men, Soundmanpt, he do.

Puffin 25 Jul 2017, 11:24

I apologize for my earlier sarcastic posts.

It's just that certain people assume things based on flimsy evidence and a lot of self-deception.

It just gets tiresome seeing the same accusations repeatedly.

Stingray 25 Jul 2017, 10:13

Does it really matter who Soundmanpt really is? All I know from reading his posts over the years that he posts interesting comments and is a positive force on this website. What I find interesting about him is that he seems to genuinely care about people, especially those who get eyeglasses for the first time. His suggestions to parents, teenagers and young adults are all for the positive welfare of the individual. He makes people who are hesitant to wear glasses in public confident about their appearance. He never posts negative or inflammatory comments. He is an asset to Eyescene. Two thumbs up SoundmanPT

 25 Jul 2017, 09:06

Hi Soundmanpt

Thank you very much for your reply, and words of support.

Puffin 24 Jul 2017, 20:11

Soundmanpt, I know who you really are: none other than Professor Moriaty! No doubt planning some dastardly deeds.

Puffin 24 Jul 2017, 19:14

Actually soundmanpt could be everyone on the entire internet. All your friends and relatives, everyone you've ever come across online, they are all him. There's only one way such a thing could work (shhh, I didn't say this) it's... a government conspiracy... they must be colluding with aliens.

Puffin 24 Jul 2017, 18:16

I am now wondering if everyone on this board is Soundmanpt.

Consider the evidence: as soon as someone posts, "someone else" replies to them, and suspiciously quickly too. That proves conclusively that they are the same person.

He's the trolls too. What fun.

Moonshiner 22 Jul 2017, 03:13

I deleted some unsuitable posts, some from an anonymous user that made inappropriate posts in multiple threads and blocked a couple more IP addresses they were from. Keep it nice. If you have trouble posting, you can email from the FAQ page and I will look into it.

Andrew 14 Jul 2017, 12:49

And there are things which we, in the UK, cannot see when they are posted in the US. It does work both ways.

still 14 Jul 2017, 12:46

I also.

Crystal Veil 14 Jul 2017, 12:14

I second to that.

NNVisitor 14 Jul 2017, 10:53

People trying to obtain vision and eyeglasses information do an internet search. is shown as a search result. They then post here with their questions and/or other vision/glasses related experiences, fears etc.

Someone responds to their enquiry. Maybe a few people do. What's so hard to understand about this? There are 7 billion people on the planet. Or even more. Some of them post here. They are different individuals.

Soundmanpt is a unique individual. As is Carrie. They live thousands of miles and an ocean apart. It is quite mean spirited to make absurd ridiculous accusations claiming that a whole bunch of posters here are the same person. If one does not like what they read on this site then don't read it and please don't accuse, smear people who post here.

Soundmanpt 14 Jul 2017, 09:19


If that anonymous post wasn't from you then you my apology. You're right I don't want to be like and falsely accusing people of being other people. I have tried numerous ways to convince you that I am me and only me but you refuse to want to believe me. But yet you have no prove at all. Why don't you go back and find some of Carries post in here and you can easily see that she is most certainly in the UK as she says she is because she has tried to post a few things from the BBC which won't work here in the US and I am most certainly in the USA and know hardly anything about the UK.

Glassesforeveryone 14 Jul 2017, 07:59

Post deleted orphaned by post below from an anonymous user.

Soundmanpt 13 Jul 2017, 06:33

This is true. Now if only they could win the Stanley Cup. 50 years but still no cup.

 13 Jul 2017, 04:47


At least you still have the Blues of the NHL.

Soundmanpt 12 Jul 2017, 16:59

Have you ever noticed that Carrie has posted several things which can only be opened if you're in the UK? I am in the USA. My hometown baseball team is the St. Louis Cardinals. WE lost our football team last year. They are the Rams and they moved back to Los Angles. We hate the owner of the team Sam Kroenke with a passion for moving them.

Not posting your name chicken ass doesn't fool anyone. I know it you "glassesforeveryone"

 12 Jul 2017, 12:14

Post deleted - false accusation

Lv2c4i 06 Jun 2017, 03:23

According to one of the chatty newsreaders, it's "Wear your glasses" day. Wonder if it is connected to the metric equivalency of 20/20 vision being 6/6 (and that's the June 6 date designation)? Regardless, does not seem to be many using the day for wearing their spex. Oh, well, happy day to the eyewear afficionados frequenting this site.

Myopeinhere 30 May 2017, 11:44

Just sat here reading the threads and the people I used to interact with Aliena was a special one, and realised it must have been at least twenty years ago.....bloodyhell

Myopeinhere 30 May 2017, 11:44

Just sat here reading the threads and the people I used to interact with Aliena was a special one, and realised it must have been at least twenty years ago.....bloodyhell

Elisete 30 May 2017, 10:31

Moni Monik to harass Brazilian women with glasses, you are being denounced in several groups, your correspondence is both annoying and invasive, and coupled with news that are part of the eyescene that denigrate the image of the forum

Tod 10 May 2017, 11:14

I don't think there has been any winner's here. I feel that Glassesforeveryone was wrong to accuse Soundmanpt, but I think it is a shame to block a long term contributor to the site, esp as he didn't hide behind a different name.

I wish you'd left it alone Glassesforeveryone.

Luke 05 May 2017, 15:55

It is important to remember when reading the blogs that this is a fantasy site. We come here to express our fantasies about eyewear. All contributors are living out their fantasies and desires, none I believe are professionally trained.

LikeGlass 05 May 2017, 08:44

The problem may be the fact that ISP's often rotate IP addresses. As such, a legitimate block may rotate off it's intended target and on to someone who has done nothing wrong.

In writing code for websites, designing a block for a public forum is very difficult. Since there is no "sign in" you have to rely on either an IP block, or a cookie block. IP's may rotate, and cookies are easy to remove and only valid on whatever machine the cookie is dropped on. Often, IP addresses rotate so often that a more general block, using the first two groups of numbers are used. Unfortunately, those blocks wipe out large blocks of users.

Having a sign-in system has been debated many times over the last 20 years. I remember having these discussions with Wurm. The though is that many interesting posts would be lost because people do not want to go through the process of setting up an account. This would be especially true of the occasional newcomer who just learned of the board.

On the other side of the issue, having an open system requires a lot more active management deleting the occasional flames. When a major breakout occurs, IP blocks become the only tool to cool things down, as such, non-offenders will always get swept up in the blocks, which is unfortunate.

specs4ever 05 May 2017, 06:44

I agree with Puffin. Keep it nice people. I personally do not think that Glassesforeveryone should be blocked, but that is up to the moderator.

Sam 05 May 2017, 06:29

That has to go down as the lamest apology ever. Congratulations Glassesforeveryone and goodbye!

Puffin 05 May 2017, 04:05


I think these fakery issues are for the moderator/site owner, not us humble site users.

Throwing unsubstantiated accusations around got boring a long time ago, and its unfair.

Just don't take everything you read here seriously.

glassesforeveryone 05 May 2017, 02:25

I am disappointed to have been blocked (unsuccessfully if I use a proxy, but if I'm not wanted I'll take the message).

I would like to point out a couple of things.

I have been a contributor to this site for well-over 10 years, probably closer to 20. I have never done anything untoward in those years, and indeed, if you were to reread my last contribution, you would see that I only pointed out my doubts in the validity of a lot of posts in recent times.

I didn't name call, I had closed my contributions on that line.

I was actually trying to protect this site from it turning into something it never was in the days of Filthy McNasty, Clare, et also.

I apologise if Soundmanpt has been wrongly accused, but his name is the one that many posts have accused, for reasons that seem to add up.

My point is that, if a female character turns up with a vision issue, she gets a huge amount of interest from certain accounts. She stays for a while and then leaves.

If a man posts a similar (likely valid) post, it gets ignored.

I would ask whether anyone here thinks that my actions merit a ban. If people back that assessment then I accept your conclusion.

I certainly hope you haven't also banned Hyperaficionado, he seems to have always contributed sensibly.

Moonshiner, if people feel comfortable to have me here I would ask for you to lift the ban.

With respect,


Moonshiner 05 May 2017, 01:36


Moonshiner 05 May 2017, 01:24

I deleted several unsuitable posts and blocked a couple more IP addresses most were from. Keep it nice, if you dont like it dont read it. See #8 on the FAQ page,

This is not a political site, do not use the names of politicians unless it is directly related to glasses/vision and then do give any political opinion. There are plenty of political forums elsewhere on the net if you are so inclined.

Pete and all, I have added an email link at the bottom of the FAQ page.

 04 May 2017, 15:03


Please email me.


Bobby Laurel To Robert Wildman 07 Mar 2017, 13:55

Important message to Robert Wildman_

Please, stop harassing Elisete. You made her feel very uncomfortable. She feels abused by your correspondence to her.

Whoever you are, Wildman, if you do not stop, it will have consequences. Just remember or find in the old archiver of the eyescene hw Tom the Hungarian disapeared from the Eyescene. The same can happen to you.

Filthy McNasty 05 Mar 2017, 07:58

Wow. 20 years. Many thanks to Wurm and Moonshiner. I have many fond memories of this place right back to the beginning. I was almost 30 then; now I am almost 50!

Galileo 05 Mar 2017, 01:19

Eyescene 20th anniversary? WOW congratulations everyone for getting this far. That means I must have found this site very close to the beginning but didn't realise how long it has been. Thanks Wurm and Moonshiner

Val 04 Mar 2017, 06:20

Happy Anniversary to Eye Scene! Thank you Wurm for starting this forum and keeping it working for so many years. Another thanks to Moonshiner for continuing your work.

And, also, thank you Wurm for inspiring me to start Vision & Spex, which will be 6 years old in July.

Long live Eye Scene!

Wurm 03 Mar 2017, 20:37

Happy 20th anniversary to Eye Scene! Thanks especially to Moonshiner for keeping the site going over the past several years. Hello to all my forum and chat friends -- I hope to see you sometime.

Catwoman 30 Jan 2017, 14:11


My "drop-temple" glasses were all plastic, and they fit me just fine. The only time any pair of glasses slips a bit is when I work up a "shvitz" working out or when the temperature and humidity are quite high. As for my eldest daughter, she is a bit on the modest side and has not shown any indication toward wearing the drop-temples in public as of yet. My younger daughter has little interest in that frame style.

Soundmanpt 30 Jan 2017, 10:58


Are your "drop-temple" glasses a full plastic frame or more like a semi-rimless metal frame? They were made several different ways back then. Too bad your daughter doesn't wear them out in public. It would be interesting to see what reactions her friends would have seeing her wearing those glasses. I'm sure she would get some interesting comments on her glasses. Honestly I really think those glasses had a certain style about them Like i said the only problem was that because of the temple being lower they were hard to keep adjusted so they didn't slide down constantly. You wore those glasses for a good while do you remember having any problem with your glasses sliding down more then any of your current glasses?

Catwoman 29 Jan 2017, 10:08


Where to begin? Well, thank you for the welcome, and for letting me know that "drop-temples" is the name for my "upside-down" glasses. FYI, I graduated from high school in 1984, but I continued wearing those glasses for 2 years in college. They were big and brown, and my daughter only wears them basically around the house, using small plastic frames for normal wear. My other daughter wears small cateye frames, not as angular as most of mine are.

My husband, daughters, and I have always worn eyeglasses, never contacts. The astigmatism is quite strong for all of us.

Soundmanpt 28 Jan 2017, 11:36


So nice that you have decided to join in and not just be a lurker. You seem to be a woman with a passion for her glasses and you wear your glasses with style. How nice that you currently have 7 pairs of "cat-eyes" in your prescription so you can wear a different pair each day of the week. You even several more frames in waiting should your prescription change or you decide to replace one of them. The glasses you were wearing in your 1986 high school yearbook with the temples on the bottom were called "drop-temples" I remember them very well. They were very popular for several years. I dated several young ladies that wore that style of glasses and they all had the same problem. They were constantly pushing their glasses back up because they didn't want to stay up in place very well. But I really liked the way they looked on young ladies. your daughter must also think they look nice if she even had her own prescription put into them as her backup pair of glasses. Do you know if she has wore them out much? I have to think she would get plently of comments as well as complements on her glasses. As you know you just don't see that style anymore and that's really too bad. Seeing her wearing your old glasses had to bring back memories of when you wore those same glasses back in high school. It seems at least one if nit both your daughters have the same passion for their glasses as you have? Have they both only wore glasses and never bothered with contacts?

Catwoman 28 Jan 2017, 10:19

I have been reading items on this website for a number of weeks now, so here goes my first post.

I have worn eyeglasses since age 6. My husband has worn glasses since he was 7, so our 2 daughters started early as well (6 and 7 respectively). Each of us went full-time immediately.

I am using the moniker of "Catwoman" because we have 4 cats at home, and I own and wear 7 pairs of cateye glasses (1 per day per week). In addition to the 7 pairs I use each week, I have others waiting to be used upon a prescription change or if I want to wear something different.

Before I started wearing cateyes in 1986 (and I have worn no other style since), I wore glasses with the temples on the bottom for several years before that. When she first looked at my picture in my high school yearbook, my eldest daughter said, "Mom, why were you wearing your glasses upside down?" I told her it was a style back then, and I showed her the frame. When she got older, I let her get her prescription in those glasses, which she uses as a backup pair. And I did wear my cateyes in my college graduation picture.

 10 Jan 2017, 17:52

lenschat is down

Soundmanpt 10 Jan 2017, 10:34

Has anyone had any problem getting into "Lenschat" or is it just me?

Puffin 24 Dec 2016, 14:34

Merry christmas from my burrow.

May your vision remain fully corrected.

Trent 24 Dec 2016, 09:21

Merry Christmas everyone and a myopic New Year!

AlainHMG 24 Dec 2016, 04:05

I would like to wish you all a Merry Christmas

Crystal Veil 24 Dec 2016, 01:05

Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to all of you!

astigmaphile 19 Dec 2016, 19:13

Merry Christmas, Moonshiner

Thank you for all of your work maintaing Eyescene.

Brett  19 Dec 2016, 18:43

Thanks moonshiner! Definitely one of my favorites sites, and if you celebrate it: merry Christmas as well.

Jim H 19 Dec 2016, 17:10

I second everyone's comments. Thanks Moonshiner.

lentifan 18 Dec 2016, 15:20

Good to see you back, Moonshiner. You had us worried!

Lv2c4i 18 Dec 2016, 06:32

To the growing refrain of gratitude, I wish to add my own thanks for the maintaining and returning of eyescene. Thanks as well to those who contribute to the content.

Trent 17 Dec 2016, 21:50

Thanks Moonshiner for maintaining the site. Great work!

The Glasses Lover 17 Dec 2016, 17:04

I also wish to thank Moonshiner. You're doing a great job.

Soundmanpt 17 Dec 2016, 16:21


I also want to thank you.

Crystal Veil 17 Dec 2016, 14:53


I can only say that Alain's words are mine as well.

AlainHMG 17 Dec 2016, 14:50

Moonshiner, Thanks for providing us this site

Moonshiner 17 Dec 2016, 12:43

I apologize, I missed updating my email address with the domain name server provider I use and didn't get the renewal email. It is now updated.

JC 17 Dec 2016, 04:40

I'm glad to see Eyescene back up and running -- I was getting worried yesterday.

gerry 20 Nov 2016, 08:38

I find i get ruined on with ladies wearing thick magnification glasses, do ladies think this is strange and insulting i hope not. We all have preferences of the type of looks we like. Ladies you are beautiful in glasses, and i,m sure you have personalities to match. Martin hugs and Love.

glassesforeveryone 04 Oct 2016, 02:35

Goodbye my dear old eyescene. I will miss you.

Val 21 Sep 2016, 05:04

A very old topic (from 1999 on Eyescene) about people who post under false identities:

There is no new thing under the sun 8-)

Lv2bAjerk 17 Sep 2016, 13:25

Don't like the feelings expressed here? Don't post to the thread about it. Please.

Lv2c4i 17 Sep 2016, 05:33

Don't like it? Don't read it. Please.

 16 Sep 2016, 16:38

there have been tons of fakes on Vision and Specs. Why? Because most of the fakers get bored here and move over there to continue thier fakery.

manyatime 16 Sep 2016, 14:15

I've joined & posted on Vision & Spex several times, using different personae. Once, in reply to an obvious fake, I pretended to be someone whose myopia was increasing rapidly. This was as a way of taking the pi** out of the person posting. I got bored of that within two or three posts. On another occasion, I deconstructed another fake who has never since reappeared on the site.

Puffin 16 Sep 2016, 11:21

I think all this nonsense is pretty much impossible to stop. Controlling it is the best that can be done. That requires constant vigilance and a team of moderators.

Soundmanpt 16 Sep 2016, 09:20


As far as I ever knew that was always the thing about Vision and Spexs that I liked. I was one that signed up early on and have only used the same e-mail as I did from the very start. I will be more than happy to supply whatever information you might need need to confirm that I only have the one e-mail.

I have said more than once that I would welcome some form of registering on this so this crap would stop.

Val 16 Sep 2016, 00:53

I am the admin of Vision and Spex, and I can say that rarely I was forced to block users or IP addresses because of a user with more the one accounts. It's hard to know for sure it's the same person.

When I started Vision and Spex, 5 years ago, I wanted to have a confirmation from every new user that the email address they provide is valid. I had to abandon the idea, because I have received almost zero confirmations. Some people registered more than once because their accounts could not be activated. They could not post anything.

The sad thing is that our community is shrinking. In the year 2000 when I joined Eyescene, the site was very active. I remember that any new topic could create about 30 comments in only one or two days. Now, except "Seen on the web" with tons of links, no topic can produce more than 5 comments a day.

 15 Sep 2016, 15:09

Soundmumps. Do you seriously believe each person on the Internet has only one email address? omg Are you SERIOUSLY that naive????????????

I can give you 15 completely different email addresses in 10 minutes if you'd like... IP address is the best indicator. If you register a name, use that IP address, then no other names can be used fromt that IP address. Now yes, you can spoof IP addressses too, but this makes it a little bit harder.

Tom 15 Sep 2016, 13:03

Concerning: agree, postings by Carrie and some other people you mention, are often rubbish, and we all know they are fakes. But we are not obliged to read their posts, are we? It becomes more of a problem when wrong or bad advisory from fake or amateur opticians can be assumed to be proper medical advise by some readers... But, also, someone experiencing vision trouble should visit a real doctor and not rely upon posts from some public uncontrolled website :)

 15 Sep 2016, 12:58

"In order to be in "Vision and Spexs" you have to register and as far as I know you're only able to do that as one person."

Soundmanpt, surely you can't be that naive about the internet.

Concerning 15 Sep 2016, 12:18

My Eyescene Posting for the day:

Puffin: I apologize for my part in the boredom that you are experiencing. It is why my postings on the subject of absurdity will be under "Site Feedback and News" and not on any other threads.


First of all, being on Vision and Spex is absolutely no proof of anything. Any of us could register for several hundred e-mail accounts and be on there as several hundred individuals. Do you really think that little of the rest of us to not realize that?

Secondly, I am not accusing you of being Maria or Carrie. Do I believe that they are females? Not at all!!!!!! Carrie is someone who loves plus prescriptions, has a lesbian fantasy, and likes large mammillary glands. Maria is some guy who loves collecting or the thought of collecting many pairs of women's fglasses and the idea of wearing them.

Both could prove otherwise by taking a multitude pictures with their hands holding each of their pairs of glasses in front of them from the chin on down. They could crop their face completely out of it. Maria has no problem taking pictures of a pair of glasses. She should be able to have many posted of her personally holding each pair that she purchases. Carrie should be able to post quite a few pictures too. Just crop the face out. Privacy is protected!

Instead, we can expect indignation at the thought of this. They should be able to accomplish this in the next 24 hours otherwise. More than one picture too!! It should be so easy to do.

Thirdly, you have no credibility. You posed as a retired optician, Jim Boice, on Yahoo and other sites. Yes, you do use different identities. As Jim Boice, you, in the guise of a trained optical professional do everything you can to put people in glasses who may not need them, increase the wear time, get stronger prescriptions, and purchase glasses without a valid prescription online. Zenni seems to be a favorite of his too. Seriously, what optician, retired or otherwise, would promote online competition and buying glasses without a valid prescription? Why would they promote competition that may do away with the jobs of the people that followed them into the profession.

Jim Boice's and your posts on here could be swapped because they are identical. If anyone actually cared, they could check this out for themselves. There are hundreds of Jim Boice posts on Yahoo alone. OR..... has the account been suddenly deleted the past few days? That would be mysterious.

Seriously, is your drive to put people in glasses, have them wear them more than they need to, or get them in stronger glasses so strong that you don't care that your advice may go against the advice of a professional in the industry? What set of ethics or moral compass??

Soundmanpt 15 Sep 2016, 08:24

Concerning, Worth Repeating, Concerned, I Detective, no name and all the others accusers

It occurred to me that I have proof that I am who I say I and that Carrie is who she says she is. In order to be in "Vision and Spexs" you have to register and as far as I know you're only able to do that as one person. So I suggest that you check in there and you will find that I have been in there for a good while and Carrie is there as well. Not possible if we were the same person. So if you're wrong about me being Carrie, which you are, maybe it's time you stop falsely accussing other people without actual proof. Now of course i'm sure even seeing real proof you will never admit to being wrong.

Puffin 15 Sep 2016, 04:28

Perhaps there needs to be a thread for pointless, repetitive arguments and endless accusations of fakery. It got boring a long long time ago.

Concerning 14 Sep 2016, 10:47

My Eyescene thoughts for the day:

Pledge: Henceforth, I will only sign in as 'Concerning" on Eyescene.

Idea for a new thread: Role Play or Fantasy? Clearly, As Anonymous repeatedly argues, there are males who portray themselves as women on here.

Message to those women with male genitalia: You are fooling absolutely no one but yourselves or someone incredibly simple minded. It does not matter how long these males with pseudo ovaries have been posting. That has no bearing on this issue. That just means that they are living in a persistent state of denial. Really, it is absurd!

If these people want to live a fantasy or role play, then they need thread specifically set up for that. Will there be any thrill for the women with testicles with a role play? Will anyone actually want to play with them on these proposed threads? Only time will tell.

Jim Boice, retired optician on Yahoo, Google, and YouTube: We know who you are on Eyescene. You were never an optician. Stop portraying yourself as one and doling out advice that you are not qualified to give. One can only imagine you drooling anddoing unseemly actions with yourself while you hawk the wares of Zenni Optical to someone on these sites who has mistakenly bought into your act. You should be ashamed. Have you no moral compass? Stop with the indignant protests and live an ethical life.

Puffin 02 Sep 2016, 17:48


Welcome. You're not the only one. Although I have no interest in contacting anyone, GWGs and associated subjects have long drawn my attention. I cannot see that changing.

gerry 02 Sep 2016, 15:15

HI Fellow chatters, do you think guys like me are a little odd. I really love to date ladies who wear very thick strong glasses. I,m perfectly normal except i do get a real crush for ladies in those type of glasses. So far I have not admitted this, so i,m coming out. would love to chat to male or female who may have the same issue.You can contact me . look forward to hearing from you have fun Bye

 19 Aug 2016, 05:08

neither one of these links work.

Soundmanpt 16 Aug 2016, 15:25


Here are those simulator sites you asked me about in "Lenschat"



(then click on Blur simulator -what you see without your glasses

 05 Aug 2016, 15:50

your link doesn't run...

Joe89 05 Aug 2016, 08:23

Thought I'd contribute: Here's a free chat (I made in less than 5mins)

just to test out. Otherwise I could easily install phpfreechat as what was used before for the domain name owner of "" Feel free to make suggestions, or contact me in person anyone that would make for a good admin please reply w/an email O^O

 20 Jul 2016, 17:37

very very old article mentioned a zillion times here in the past. nothing new. move on.

 19 Jul 2016, 12:11

An interesting article:

-14 16 Jul 2016, 13:12

Chino does it for me. Using safari.

Chino 16 Jul 2016, 11:38

Unfortunately, it's just not working for me. If anyone else has had this problem, and has a solution for me, I'm open to suggestions. As of now, the chat is completely useless to me.

AlainHMG 16 Jul 2016, 05:14

I have just entered, created my profile and I'm logged in :-)

Chino 16 Jul 2016, 04:15

Actually, no. That didn't quite do it. When I type in my username and password, and then click Chat, it sends me to a blank page ( Tried it on Firefox and Microsoft Edge. Same think, a totally blank, white page.

Chino 16 Jul 2016, 04:10

Awesome! That fixed it. Thank you.

The link on the home page sent me to, and that one doesn't work. Much appreciated.

AlainHMG 16 Jul 2016, 02:36

It works fine

antonio 16 Jul 2016, 01:39

Please use:

or with http:// in front of it. Does it work for you?

AlainHMG 15 Jul 2016, 20:30

Same in France: Not Found. The requested URL /lenschat was not found on this server.

Chino 15 Jul 2016, 20:05

It's not working for me in the U.S. Any special requirements? I tried firefox and microsoft edge with no success.

 15 Jul 2016, 19:07

Works ok here on 3 different servers.

Chino 15 Jul 2016, 16:24

Anyone know what's wrong with lens chat? Every time I click the link, I get the following page: Not Found

The requested URL /lenschat was not found on this server.

Soundmanpt 01 Jul 2016, 08:11


I just tried going onto Lenschat and I didn't have any problem. It seems to working now at least.

janet 01 Jul 2016, 01:41

Is lenschat still going as i cant get into it anymore,

thanks in advance for any replies

janet 01 Jul 2016, 01:41

Is lenschat still going as i cant get into it anymore,

thanks in advance for any replies

 23 Jun 2016, 07:50

Very strange not to see any comments for this day yet!

DS 17 Jun 2016, 18:14

For Opticampus, try

There is no longer a domain name pointing to the site as the creator's family is not maintaining links after is sudden and unexpected death a couple years ago. (See

Puffin 17 Jun 2016, 11:32 seems to be down. Anyone else have this problem?

Astra 28 Apr 2016, 06:12

But I love virtual world more . Because I can secretly comment, love and praise the glasses wearing girls that are in virtual world .

Astra 28 Apr 2016, 06:10

To Yeti posted on 20160327

For me , my real world life with girls is very satisfying . I don't always search for the super high rx ones. but there are many moderate rx that surrounds me. I feel very satisfying. And I love it when my stance towards glasses wearing girls are more welcoming than the average attitude exist in the real world. Partly because I am a glasses wearing girl , but also because I don't share the common preference for wearing contact lenses. I think wearing REAL minus glasses is better than wearing the EASILY INFECTED and fake-looking contact lenses. You don't have to wear contact lenses to show that you are attractive. I find the social stereotypes given to glasses wearing girls are much more attractive to me. That we are nerdy and boring , yes, and I love to be nerdy and boring, but I would also tell you how comfortable it is to be glasses wearing girls than a easily-infected, pretend-to-be-normal CONTACT lenses wearing girls.

elisetebrand 01 Apr 2016, 14:56

Thank you for the strength of my life is NOT easy but try to transform adversity as in achievements but ONLY God knows I have struggled to be accepted in my family and in the society where you live simply because USE glasses ... I have no problem with my disability Par I God gave me hum gift and NOT A Problem

elisetebrand 01 Apr 2016, 14:56

Thank you for the strength of my life is NOT easy but try to transform adversity as in achievements but ONLY God knows I have struggled to be accepted in my family and in the society where you live simply because USE glasses ... I have no problem with my disability Par I God gave me hum gift and NOT A Problem

elisetebrand 01 Apr 2016, 14:56

Thank you for the strength of my life is NOT easy but try to transform adversity as in achievements but ONLY God knows I have struggled to be accepted in my family and in the society where you live simply because USE glasses ... I have no problem with my disability Par I God gave me hum gift and NOT A Problem

elisetebrand 01 Apr 2016, 14:56

Thank you for the strength of my life is NOT easy but try to transform adversity as in achievements but ONLY God knows I have struggled to be accepted in my family and in the society where you live simply because USE glasses ... I have no problem with my disability Par I God gave me hum gift and NOT A Problem

specs4ever 01 Apr 2016, 13:19

Elisetebrand, I have seen some of your pictures on facebook and I admire you for living your life as well as you do. You look every bit as attractive with your glasses as you would without - or even a far weaker pair. You seem to enjoy hiking and getting out in the country in the sun and fresh air. You have a nice family and I hope your husband is supportive of your vision problems. I am sorry to hear that your myopia is degenerative and I hope it does not increase too much in the future.

elisetebrand 31 Mar 2016, 21:56

I learned to ignore comments that do not help me to me the words reveal what is in the human heart people who make certain comments are so myopic of mind and spirit that pity that glasses do not correct this deficiency ...

 31 Mar 2016, 18:23

You're an asswipe, LIKELENSES.

elisetebrand 31 Mar 2016, 17:16

sorry ... I 'm Brazilian and new on this forum so I promise next time I write better ok ? I have degenerative myopia -30 and -31.5 and always wear glasses and I see no problems i love my even stronger glasses being contradicted by my husband still love my glasses more than he ...

elisete 31 Mar 2016, 17:05


Likelenses 31 Mar 2016, 16:56


I can't hear you,please shout a little louder,and do it in English.

elisetebrand 31 Mar 2016, 12:58


Galileo 30 Mar 2016, 05:47

Hi Yeti, the problem with finding high myopic women in the real world is contact lenses.

Generally the higher the Rx the more likely that the woman will think glasses are ugly and persist with contacts.

The real women I have met with Rx higher than -10 were all "discovered" when they had eye infections or some other issue which got them out of contact lenses for a while.

I don't know the answer to your problem. You just have to talk to a lot of women and hope you get lucky!

Yeti 27 Mar 2016, 08:31

I remember eyescene browsed on windows 3.1 So many years went and I feel really down ... each day I look at high myopic girls in virtual word but I can't find any in real's really very hard

Plugin 27 Feb 2016, 12:25

Typical, tried all day and then suddenly started working after I posted my complaint.

Plugin 27 Feb 2016, 12:22

Hi I'm new here but I can't seem to post to induced myopia, it just reloads to a blank screen.

Plugin 27 Feb 2016, 12:20

Hi I'm new here but I can't seem to post to induced myopia, it just reloads to a blank screen.

Julian 19 Feb 2016, 00:35

It's back to normal this morning.

Julian 18 Feb 2016, 11:13

Is vision-and-spex down again? I posted something there this morning, but I can't get on now.

Weirdeyes 12 Feb 2016, 22:04

Just use imgur. There's no ads and it's free.

Speximann 12 Feb 2016, 21:33

Lv2c4i, I hope someone can help out with this also. They'll probably have to dumb it down for me. Hate what I have & like to share the pix but imagevenue aint gonna get it any longer, except maybe for the Naughty GWGs. I'm looking for a low cost or free site but with the free comes the ads. Thanks.

Lv2c4i 12 Feb 2016, 15:23


as ever appreciate your caps and posts.

But, if someone could clue ya in to how to sidestep the raunchier ads and such, that would be an added benefit. Hope someone can give you guidance, but your great caps are, imho, worth a quik click on delete/close or two.

Speximann 12 Feb 2016, 08:46

I have a question: several visitors recently have voiced a dislike for the posts I have been making (Actresses). I usually throw out the petty bullshit ones, but I have to agree with the two most recent complaints about the hosting site for the images I post. It is NOT all that great. Although it's free & easy for me to use, I hate the wind turbine ada & to tell the truth, I didn't really pay attention to the porno ads at the bottom under the pix.

My Question : Where/How can I host pix to post on eye scene (preferably at no/low cost) where there are no ads esp. porno banners ????

Any help would be appreciated, I like to share but don't like pissing people off. Thanks.

Jo 09 Feb 2016, 13:49

Still no lenschat. Just have to do my homework. 🙍🏼

Jo 09 Feb 2016, 12:07


Soundmanpt 09 Feb 2016, 09:27

It seems "Lenschat" is still not working.

Malina 08 Feb 2016, 23:58

Seems that lenschat is down again...?

Jo 05 Feb 2016, 00:06

Lenschat working ok now🤓

Jo 04 Feb 2016, 04:42

Lenschat. Don't know if anyone can help me. I can't sign into lenschat. It was ok last night but today a message keeps coming up saying something has been disabled for security reasons. Can anyone help me sign in. Thanks. Jo x

specs4ever 31 Jan 2016, 08:16

I just posted a new story over on Vision and Spex that people might enjoy. It is a little different story, and I managed to post some glasses pictures with the story.

Specs4ever 21 Jan 2016, 08:50

I have had no problems at all. Might be your computer?

problem 21 Jan 2016, 07:07

When I try to load all posts of a number of threads, the page usually comes up with the first few posts followed by a lot of white space

 12 Jan 2016, 10:33

i have no trouble seeing on the web. maybe you need glasses?

 10 Jan 2016, 17:02

anyone else have trouble with seen on the web?

guest 31 Dec 2015, 09:57

2016 - hope that all your wishes for more or less diopters are coming true

specs4ever 31 Dec 2015, 09:18

Happy New Year everyone. All the best for 2016

Val 27 Dec 2015, 06:40

Vision and Spex is back again.

Val 27 Dec 2015, 05:18

It seems that Vision and Spex it's down for longer than I expected. I've notified tech support and I hope it will be back today.

But I'm not sure.

So please be patient.

Thank you,

Yours, Val

 24 Dec 2015, 18:29

P, how many members belong to your chat right now?

Puffin 24 Dec 2015, 16:08

Merry Christmas to you all!

P 21 Dec 2015, 06:49

I think this is right place for the announcement.

Very easy to use glasses related chat is accepting new members:

Chat is based on Slack what is invite only team communication platform so the sign up process is manual now but everybody who fill the typeform will receive e-mail notification shortly and can use new user friendly and comfortable chat.

There are not much people around now but hopefully it will change. Give it a try.

antonio-o 13 Dec 2015, 06:55

funny All4Eyes,

btw, whats ASMR ?

best regards, antonio

All4Eyes 11 Dec 2015, 21:47

@nzoptic: Good job, you sighted a definite grammar error.

nzoptic 03 Dec 2015, 00:57

I don't want to appear pedantic but do you mean "cited" rather than "sited" ?

Word usage 02 Dec 2015, 21:16

I think that there are a few people who post on this site that need to be a little more careful with their word selections. Here is one that really drives me crazy.

Your = belonging to you. Your house.

You're = a contraction for 'you are' You're gorgeous in glasses...

I notice that some posters use 'your' in both instances sited above rather than the correct words for the situation that they are writing about.

"Stepping down from soap box"......

 22 Nov 2015, 09:24

why is attracting revenue so bad? Alain has gotten away with it for years with no block on his spamming for revenue.

Moonshiner 22 Nov 2015, 03:27

I have blocked the posting of the web site being posted excessively by Marcos. The subject matter in the postings while somewhat relevant to this site, does not match the site name and may be attempting to attract traffic possibly for ad revenue.

Moonshiner 22 Nov 2015, 03:27

I have blocked the posting of the web site being posted excessively by Marcos. The subject matter in the postings while somewhat relevant to this site, does not match the site name and may be attempting to attract traffic possibly for ad revenue.

Julian 11 Nov 2015, 08:15

Thanks Moonshiner. Marco's posts would have been fine if he'd stuck to one topic!

Moonshiner 11 Nov 2015, 02:48

Deleted many posts from "Marco" in multiple threads and blocked two IP addresses they were from

Marco 08 Nov 2015, 18:26

Post deleted - spam

Antonio 08 Nov 2015, 01:40

Hi All4Eyes,

Do you still go around without glasses sometimes?

Best regards, Antonio-o

All4Eyes 07 Nov 2015, 23:23

I really liked what Bobby said in that Vice article. It's interesting, this is the first time I've seen it referred to as "partial blindsimming", but that's essentially what it is. I also like he stresses that it's an identity thing, not just a sexual fetish.

lentifan 04 Nov 2015, 15:36


If you try to access Konstantin's site at

you will get an explanation which may apply to your site also.

Does anybody know if this will soon apply to all flickr sites?

It seems a great pity. Is there any alternative?

bateau 04 Nov 2015, 13:33

Has anyone else had trouble getting into their flick account? Mine seems to have dissappeared.

Bobby 23 Oct 2015, 05:48

My thanks go to you all, my friends from Eyescene.

This community helped me many years ago not to feel so lonely, and you broght me a lot of inspiration.

Long live Eyescene. Thank you all.

briangwebber 21 Oct 2015, 12:49

Bobby's contribution to the recent BIID article was totally truthful.

When he says

"Something deep in our minds, souls, hearts urges us to pretend blindness," he wrote. "It is not our choice. We cannot just stop. We cannot fight it. If we fight it, after a time it bursts out itching, burning, and chasing us to put the glasses on and spend a day the way we need to. We are who we are, because we cannot help not being like that. Believe me, it is not an easy life."

How I got this way I really do not know. But now I accept myself for who I really am. It has taken many years.

NJ 19 Oct 2015, 05:30

Bobby, it is kind and courageous of you to be so open about your BIID and OO nature. It makes many of us more comfortable. I too thought it was a very well done article, thanks in large part to your efforts and responses.

hyperopiaficionado 19 Oct 2015, 04:34


I liked the article very much. I think you were the perfect person to ask about these things.


Bobby 18 Oct 2015, 13:20

She adressed me by herself. I have no clue why she chose me. She could have asked anybody else.

specs4ever 17 Oct 2015, 17:37

When I read the article Bobby I was about 99% sure it was you. Well done. It was a very good article.

Bobby 17 Oct 2015, 17:06

OK. Yes, It was me, who gave the journalist the information. (Verify on my FB account)

Soundmanpt 17 Oct 2015, 13:16


Thank you

That worked great!

Val 17 Oct 2015, 12:00

Soundmanpt, I've changed your password and emailed you the new one.

Soundmanpt 17 Oct 2015, 09:33


Yes "Vision and Spex" is back working very well again. Thanks for being there to see that it got fixed. Now if anyone could somehow fix "Lenschat" the world would be so much better.

But I still have an issue with getting into being able to reply in V&S for some reason I am locked out and can't figure out what i am doing wrong with re entering. Can you help?

Val 16 Oct 2015, 13:24

Update on VIsion and Spex:

I got a message from the repairing team that Vision and Spex should work now.

I see that the lagging is gone. I can login - logout very fast. I can post.

If anyone of you, user of V&S are still having troubles using the site, please tell me.

Happy browsing,

Yours, Val

 16 Oct 2015, 13:24

yes, there is only one person in the world named Bobby.

Val 16 Oct 2015, 06:56

About Vision and Spex:

It will be at least another day until it will be fixed.

Sorry about that.

So please be patient.

I will post an update as soon I will have news.

astigmaphile 15 Oct 2015, 17:52

I found the article on BIID fascinating. I have wanted to wear glasses since grade school. I didn't really get a legitimate reason to wear them until I had cataract surgery. I need bifocals now. I would love to have a stronger prescription, but I don't tyhink that will ever happen. I can sympathize with others that BIID, even if what they want is very different from me.

NJ 15 Oct 2015, 16:18

One of the more thoughtful articles I've read in BIID.

hyperopiaficionado 15 Oct 2015, 12:03

Graham Err of course...sorry, not my day today

hyperopiaficionado 15 Oct 2015, 12:02

@Michael Err - sorry, English is not my first language. I meant to say esteemed. In Spanish we say "Estimado Seor..." hence my mistake by not thinking enough before writing it.

Graham Err 15 Oct 2015, 09:34

Estimated? LOL

hyperopiaficionado 15 Oct 2015, 07:28

Was the quoted Bobby in the vice article our estimated Bobby Laurel?

Has anyone heard of him lately?

I do miss his site.

 15 Oct 2015, 06:10

An interesting article:

specs4ever 14 Oct 2015, 19:17

It has not worked properly for me for the past 3 days

Soundmanpt 14 Oct 2015, 17:02

Just tried it and it isn't working for me. Same as earlier.

Val 14 Oct 2015, 12:56

Curious thing: Vision and Spex is working!

I did nothing... but I hope it will stay that way.

Val 14 Oct 2015, 12:42

I didn't know that you all couldn't access Vision and Spex, because I had no problem browsing the site, yesterday and even early today. But now I do... :(

I will contact the maintenance team.

Soundmanpt 14 Oct 2015, 07:48

I have tried quite a few times now and I even leave it sit for some time and it still doesn't respond.

Puffin 14 Oct 2015, 03:59

Vision and Spex still taking ages to load. As for logging in, forget it.

Puffin 13 Oct 2015, 15:37

It does work but is horrifically slow

 13 Oct 2015, 13:51

Vision and Spex now available again

Soundmanpt 13 Oct 2015, 10:06


I just tried it also and it doesn't allow you to get in. You click on it and nothing happens.

 13 Oct 2015, 09:14

Vision and Spex does not seem to be working today. Anyone know of a problem?

Val 05 Aug 2015, 10:31

Hello everybody,

Yes, Vision and Spex is working fine now.

Please tell me if you have problems.

Puffin 05 Aug 2015, 09:11

is it fixed yet? I have 2 stories ready to post and another nearly done.

Val 04 Aug 2015, 09:43

It seems that Vision And Spex is down. I contacted the maintenance, I hope that it will start working soon.

I don't know how soon. Maybe today, maybe tomorrow...

I am sorry for the inconvenience.

varifocals 04 Aug 2015, 09:31

Yes Puffin. it seems knackered.

I have spent quite a while trying to connect with no luck.

Puffin 04 Aug 2015, 03:50

Vision and Spex seems to be playing up again

Reader 24 Jul 2015, 11:38

Vse nejlepsi k narozeninam, Bobby Laurele!

linuxer 24 Jul 2015, 07:11


NoScript addon for Firefox

Will block javascript/java/flash etc

Lv2c4i 24 Jul 2015, 05:06

A tech question: any recommendations on an easy/safe way to disable/toggle Javascript while using firefox browser? A downloaded add-on is needed, I think, and am looking for expertise or wisdom about what/which would be "best". Thank you.

Trent 01 Jul 2015, 09:42

Happy Canada Day!

Soundmanpt 29 Jun 2015, 07:32

Thanks guys for the well wishes.

Cactus Jack 28 Jun 2015, 18:24


Glad to hear you are recovering to the point where the cane is optional.

It reminded me of my experience with crutches after I broke my Fibula a few years ago. It was my first encounter with crutches and I asked my Dad, who had suffered serious leg wounds in WW 2 and was on crutches for over a year, when I would know that I no longer needed them. He said: "One of these days, you will need something across the room and you will just go get it without your crutches, because it is more convenient. That is the beginning of the end of needing the crutches". He was right.

I have a torn Meniscus also, but thankfully it isn't much more than an occasional nuisance. I hope I can avoid getting it fixed, ever.


astigmaphile 28 Jun 2015, 17:19


I'm glad to hear that your knee is getting better.

Soundmanpt 28 Jun 2015, 15:01

Crystal Veil

Well it has been slowly getting better. But I have still been keeping my cane in hand just for safety purposes, but on Wednesday I met a friend and golf partner at a local pub for dinner. I had him put my cane on his side since that was a better place to get it out of the way. But he got up to get something and knocked over my cane. Well to honest it was in bad shape as the handle was badly broken and ready to fall off, well he bumped it and it fell on the floor and the handle completely broke. He insisted that he wanted to fix it for me and he is very good with wood working. He took the broken pieces of the handle with him and I still carried the cane and without a handle it was much more difficult to use. Today he called me to tell me he had made me a new handle and I needed to bring the rest of the cane to his house so he could glue it on. Well he glued it and insisted on staining it as well to make it look even better. He did a great job making a new handle. Anyway after he finished he told me I can't use it for at least 12 hours and even better if I wait until tomorrow to use it. So I had several errands to run and was forced to walk without the aid of my cane. Now I feel like i hardly need it after making my errands without any problem. So it looks like I will have a cane if and when the other knee decides to have an issue. But I really hope to put it in a corner somewhere and let it gather lots of dust. lol

Crystal Veil 28 Jun 2015, 14:41

Soundmanpt, how is the knee?

EyeTri 28 Jun 2015, 14:21


I've had the same problems on that site. I've been enjoying your story, but the site has made it difficult to read for any length of time.

Puffin 26 Jun 2015, 17:26

I'm having horrendous connection problems with Vision-and-spex, constant timeout errors. Anyone else with the same problem?

Galileo 26 May 2015, 00:05

Soundman - good luck with your op and I hope you get back to golf quickly. CJ - good luck with your op too.

Soundmanpt 25 May 2015, 08:33


Your results sounds pretty good overall and I expect I will also always have some after feelings from it. I just hope to be able to walk without a cane reasonably well and if possible get back to playing golf which I am sadly missing these days. I expect to be doing physical therapy for a good while.

Soundmanpt 25 May 2015, 08:29


Thanks for the good wishes.

Galileo 25 May 2015, 00:29

Soundman - I had a meniscus repair in January this year, I landed after a long haul flight at 7am checked into hospital at 11am, out of hospital by 8pm. One half hour appointment the following morning to give me a half a dozen exercises to practice and on another plane to some where else the day after that.

Four months on I can still feel a little discomfort but I have full flexibility in the joint and no problems walking for several hours at a time. The US overdo things.

astigmaphile 24 May 2015, 21:29


Good luck with your knee surgery.

Soundmanpt 22 May 2015, 16:50

Cactus Jack

You are a very wise man. I am not crazy about being knocked out for 2 hours. The surgery takes about 45 minutes to an hour and then another hour in recovery. But I was shocked to be told that he wants me in therapy on the 3rd day after surgery. As near as i have found out I think the therapy is for 3 times a week and 6 - 8 weeks. As you might guess the surgery is arthoscopic so I will only have a couple small holes.

Thanks for the good wishes and I will be glad when it is over.

Cactus Jack 22 May 2015, 13:12


I have had more surgeries than I care to think about, but never knee surgery. I suspect that surgery for a torn meniscus is not far in my future. I know there are other knee surgeries that are much more serious.

Several years ago I had hand surgeries on both hands for Dupuytren's Contracture. The surgery itself was not bad, I slept thru the whole thing, but the very important therapy afterwards was most memorable, in a negative sense. When the surgeon said to come in a few weeks after the surgery to get the bandages removed, he said to plan on two hours. "WHAT! Two hours to take off the bandages? "No" he said, "That will only take about 5 minutes, but you can't leave until you can make a fist." He knew what he was talking about. Fortunately, the later therapy sessions were much easier.

I suspect the therapy after knee surgery will be "interesting" in the Chinese sense and I wish you the very best outcome and speedy recovery.

If anyone comments that any surgery is "minor" surgery, there ain't no such thing, except possibly, surgery on somebody else.

All the best.


Melyssa 22 May 2015, 12:42

Best of luck with your operation, Soundmanpt. And when the doctor asks you afterwards how you feel, just say, "I can't kick." :)

Soundmanpt 22 May 2015, 11:49

Thanks guys! Much appreciated.

Michael 22 May 2015, 10:52

Good luck Soundmanpt.

Crystal Veil 22 May 2015, 10:21


good luck with your up coming operation

Soundmanpt 22 May 2015, 10:01

I do try and take everyone at there word and I never call anyone a fraud. In the case of jason there was still enough to believe things he was saying and just assume he wasn't aware of some things.

I'm not sure why anyone gets any enjoyment out of making up stories? I don't look at it as a waste of tie because i have a problem with my knee so I am waiting to get surgery on it which is finally coming June 1st,. So since I unable to walk very well I am pretty much home bound so answering him wasn't a big deal. Not like it took me away from something else more important.

Michael 22 May 2015, 09:17

Well said Cactus Jack.I was suspicious of Jason as well. I have been a lurker here for many years but don't post often but his story did pique my interest so that is why I posted to the thread.A couple of things really stood out. If indeed what he telling us was true why did his girl friend keep going back to the same doctor?I don't know how any doctor could possibly be that incompetent 4 times in the past twenty months was a little too much in my mind. Also his English and spelling were both exceptionally poor and it was hard to figure out exactly what he was saying and I had to read his posts several times to try to make heads and tails out of them. I wonder what country Jason is from because it doesn't sound to me like it is the USA.

And as far as dilation goes I never had an experience with it or know anybody who did like Jason's girl friend supposedly did. I didn't know there was a difference depending on whether you have myopia or hyperopia so that had to be the giveaway to you that he is a fraud. I learned something today and have learned so much from you and the other experts here through the years.

But we have to assume that all the people who write here are being honest and are looking for opinions and advice but that is not always going to be the case.Jason is not the first fraud and won't be the last I am sure. But Soundmanpt and I both took Jason at his word and tried to help him.Even though I thought and I am sure Soundmanpt did too that some things about Jason's story did not make a whole lot of sense. Our goal at Eyescene is to try to help people deal with vision issues and to offer our opinions and give advice. Who knows why frauds post here? It may be that people don't have anything else better to do with their time and think it is funny. But as you said if a fraud posts here that person needs to have all their facts straight or else the person will give him or herself away. And I guess Jason did with the comments he made about dilation.

Cactus Jack 22 May 2015, 06:49

Suspicions confirmed, but I have to award Jason some points for cleverness. The problem was that he was too clever by half, as our friends in the UK might say. Some of the descriptions about the effects of dilation did not make sense, technically, for a person who is moderately nearsighted. I don't want to go too far into the errors, but people who are mildly myopic have different experiences with dilation than people who are hyperopic. The descriptions more closely fit hyperopia than myopia, which Jason's gf allegedly had.

Technical errors tend to destroy the effectiveness of fiction writers. To enjoy reading fiction, you pretty much have to temporarily suspend disbelief, but even a tiny technical error can create a "poof!" moment that destroys the mood for someone who has any knowledge of how something really works.

My advice to Jason is to do your homework on even the shortest of stories or simple hoaxes. They have to be believable under the circumstances.


Puffin 21 May 2015, 16:51


I've suspected that too. But we've so many of these instances it's hardly worth worrying about: it does have a certain entertainment value. I very much doubt it will be the last.

What's next, my girlfriend became minus 20 in 10 seconds flat, help!!?

It's part of the endless charm of this site.

darcy 21 May 2015, 11:49

I wonder whether anyone will stop the guy called jason posting incredible stories about his girlfriend. It all sounds like massive BS.

If such vision loss would be happening in real life, this couple would be sitting at an eye hospital instead of fooling around and going to weddings.

What is more, he is posting to several threads at a time, this is outrageous.

Chino 12 May 2015, 12:58

Any tips for getting lenschat to work?

I registered my account. I entered my username, password, and picked the lenschat chat room. However, when I click the button to chat, all that comes up is a blank (totally white) page. I have tried it with firefox, chrome, and internet explorer with the exact same results.

I'm an old user who would really like to rejoin the community. I'd love to get lenschat working.



Millhouse 23 Apr 2015, 04:57


Please remove flaming, off topic and abusive post.Clearly a trolling attempt.

Block i.P?

 22 Apr 2015, 23:36

This site is full of stories of people staring at girls and women with glasses in public places along with posting of photos of complete strangers. That is creepy, stupid and cowardly. Grow up.

JR C 22 Apr 2015, 22:42

It is most definitely a flaming attack. It accuses Eyescene users of being creepy and stupid cowards. It doesn't matter whether you agree with it or not. Policy is supposed to be no personal attacks. And what right does that person have to cast any stones? Was he appoointed by Moonshine to be police or is self-appointed judger?

It needs to go.

Slit 20 Apr 2015, 20:45

No it's not a flaming. Whoever posted was absolutely right. There had been many jerks who go and ask all the stupid questions leading many beautiful women to hide their profiles. I hope all those jerks will get some bad shit in their life!

guest 19 Apr 2015, 06:08

Like to call your attention to the personal attack "Message to Eyescene Visitors" This person called everyone here "stupid cowards" and referred to people here as "creepy."

Think this goes over the line on flaming, name calling, and going too far. Even mocking the eye fetish we are all here for.

Can you remove this message please?

 17 Apr 2015, 06:47


Astra 05 Apr 2015, 21:34

I agree. wearing glasses can be a good thing.

My recent activity are mostly on baidu.

Antonio 05 Apr 2015, 17:00

Dear lensschat owner.

Could you please change the line : hope lenschat will be back soon change into lenschat is back on

I mean the message you get when visiting former www.lenschat. com

Thanks a lot and thanks a lot for reinstalling abd driving lenschat. Cu. Bye

Melyssa 30 Mar 2015, 05:00


Thank you for deleting those depraved declarations. This Friday, which will be the 51st anniversary of getting my first pair of glasses (definitely not a fun day then), will also be 11 years since I began posting on this sight -- uh, site (LOL).

I have learned a lot about vision over the years, making relevant posts on it, but my main goal has been to convince other women that wearing big, bold, and beautiful glasses can be a good thing. "Love me, love my glasses;" "If you've got it, flaunt it;" etc. In my case, I cannot function without glasses, so I have made the best of it.

I find it interesting that some male individuals want to see what I look like, yet they rarely, if ever, ask other women to do the same. I figure it's because of my fabulous eyewear collection, which excludes the little, dull, metal or rimless frames that have been so prevalent for the past 20-25 years. I also notice that they seem to get their jollies in chasing other women away, such as Ginaa in the most recent case.

For all, I am generally a private person. I am not on any form of social media -- not Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Flickr, Instagram, Billy Graham, Billy Club, nightclub, Grand Order of Occidental Nighthawks, Chicago Blackhawks, Flyers, nothing. If people want to see me in all my glasses glory, next time you are in my region, look for a woman about 5'10", wearing a dress or a blouse and skirt, with large-framed glasses, mainly drop-temples or cat's-eyes, usually in the same color.

My apologies for the long rant, but it is just something that I had to say. Thank you.

gwgs 30 Mar 2015, 01:47

Interesting one Moonshiner!

There does seem to be the occasional hoaxer on here who steals others identity's, but its good to see someone is monitoring it

Moonshiner 30 Mar 2015, 00:49

I deleted a couple of posts below referring to the recent Melyssa posts on the Sightings thread, both from users with IP addresses who used multiple names including Melyssa.

Please be advised posting under multiple user names and posting with AND without a user name may result in your IP address being blocked from the ability to post. You may post with or without a user name but once you post with a user name, use only that name unless it is already taken. If it is taken, choose another which can be "same name 2" or any other name not already in use.

FYI - The recent Melyssa posts on the Sightings thread were not from the Melyssa who has posted here for several years.

 29 Mar 2015, 12:29

Post deleted - multiple user names

 29 Mar 2015, 10:05

Post deleted - multiple user names

varifocals 28 Mar 2015, 03:48

Yes, It seems Lenschat is not working well.

A shame I have given up with the new format.

Moonshiner 28 Mar 2015, 01:48

I deleted several unacceptable posts from the Sightings thread, including some from two IP address using multiple user names.

The first of these used the names Show Thyself then Rob then Melyssa.

The second posted with user names A.J and Melyssa and with no name.

The link to the photos in question was also posted from this IP, there were no posts from these addresses prior to mid March.

Both IP addresses will be blocked if there are any more inappropriate posts from them.

Val 27 Mar 2015, 14:39

A.P., I am only capable of deleting comments from Vision & Specs. For Eyescene, the master is Moonshiner.

A. P. 27 Mar 2015, 09:28


May I politely suggest that it's about time to delete all of the posts disparaging Melyssa which have been appearing on he "Sightings" thread recently?

May we restore some sanity here, please?


Soundmanpt 14 Mar 2015, 09:17

It appears that "Lenschat" is no longer?

Melyssa 13 Mar 2015, 04:44

The problem I have had with LensChat is that I cannot change the colors, which makes it very difficult for me to read what I am trying to type. Trying to change it in by editing the profile has not worked.

Soundmanpt 12 Mar 2015, 15:23

It seems that "Lenschat" is down again and has been all day so far? Ever since they made some changes it hasn't really been right and I wonder if this is maybe the end for it?

Andrew 26 Dec 2014, 13:09

Happy Boxing Day!

Andrew 26 Dec 2014, 13:09

Happy Boxing Day!

Val 25 Dec 2014, 12:06

Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year !

All the best !

Have a Happy Bespectacled New Year !

astigmaphile 25 Dec 2014, 08:29

Merry Christmas to all of the folks on Eyescene.

Specs4Me 24 Dec 2014, 21:25

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all Eyesceners.

Julian 24 Dec 2014, 10:29

Yes: all best wishes for Christmas and the new year to all Eyesceners!

Love and kisses, Jules.


Spexy guys are sexy guys

Jennifer 22 Dec 2014, 21:41

Merry Christmas to all on Eye Scene! Thank you for your wishes, Sean! :)

Crystal Veil 22 Dec 2014, 16:40

Merry Christmas to everyone here on Eye Scene!

Likelenses 21 Dec 2014, 15:47

Hi Clare

Glad to SEE you are back.Merry CHRISTMAS !

A. P. 21 Dec 2014, 11:15

Welcome back Clare! Happy holidays to you!

Clare 21 Dec 2014, 10:08

Times change! Nowadays I pretty much save contacts for special occasions/going out. I no longer bother with them at work at all and everyone has got used to that. I can't tolerate them for more than a few hours at best :(

Thanks for asking

Soundmanpt 21 Dec 2014, 10:05


Great to hear that. How are you doing with your battle with wearing contacts? Were you able to find any that your more able to wear for longer periods? I know you got much better about wearing glasses which is really much better for your eyes anyway.

Clare 21 Dec 2014, 09:57

Hi Soundmanpt, thanks for the welcome. I'm certainly planning to be a more frequent visitor in 2015!

Soundmanpt 21 Dec 2014, 09:51


Good to see you in here again. It has been quite a long while that you have been away. You have been missed i hope you are back and will continue to comment.

Clare 21 Dec 2014, 09:46

Hi all, not sure where to post this but just wanted to wish everyone all the best for the festive season. May 2015 be a great year!

Soundmanpt 09 Dec 2014, 23:08

Yes! Lenchat is still around.

Pseldonymov 09 Dec 2014, 22:06

Does Lenschat still exist? When was I there? In 2005?

Steve Browne 08 Dec 2014, 05:54

Happy (belated) Birthday, Maria! :-)

High Myopic 08 Nov 2014, 20:20

Why does most of the time Lenschat have 0 people in the chat room? It really seems like that. I also have to always watch out for Peat or he will kick me out of the chatroom.

Brian Webber 08 Nov 2014, 15:59


I am not asking for this informative video to be removed. It is the siting of the video link in the adult orientated "Guys in Glasses" section that I disagree with.

Any reference to children or their glasses has no place in "Guys in Glasses".

This was no doubt an unintentional unwise oversight and the problem is easily corrected by moving the postings out of "Guys in Glasses".

specs4ever 08 Nov 2014, 15:35

Moonshiner, I must go against Brian Webber's request to remove the video in question. I watched this video first on CBS news, and I felt that it was a wonderful thing that was being done for this young boy who is going blind. I do not feel that this video is inappropriate in any way, and since it was first aired on a public television new segment, it has already positioned this young boy in the public eye. By bringing his plight to the readers of Eyescene this could help this boy if there are any of us here that could be of hesitance to him in attaining any of the remaining items on his bucket list. Also, it does bring to everyone's attention the fact that vision problems are actually a very serious problem and are not to be taken lightly.

I am pretty sure that this video is acceptable under the terms that you have posted on te FAQ page.

Brian Webber 08 Nov 2014, 15:33

Moonshiner please read some recent posts on "Guys in Glasses".

I would appreciate your comments. Thank you.

Brian Webber 07 Nov 2014, 02:45

Moonshiner, I have just posted this on Guys in Glasses

Eyescene's Guys in Glasses is not the right place to involve ANY reference to children or their glasses.

I request that all such references are immediately deleted please.

Moonshiner 26 Sep 2014, 18:45

Deleted a few inappropriate posts, I may have to block IP addresses if they continue.

Revolver 21 Sep 2014, 10:16

Some time ago someone posted advice on how to create a hyperlink easily using Google Chrome as a browser, but I don't have time to search all of the threads. Tried it at the time, and it works fine as long as its on Chrome, would the poster please repeat it here and I'll write it down this time.

Carrie 29 Aug 2014, 17:07

Thanks for getting Eyescene back so soon Moonshiner. Some people can be so rude when your website goes down. You are looking after the website in your spare time with your own money. I think that is very generous and everyone should be very grateful that you do it. Maybe the complainers should offer some of their own money?

Melyssa 28 Aug 2014, 12:50

Thank you so much for fixing our favorite website (web-sight?), Moonshiner!

Dave 28 Aug 2014, 11:09

Yes, many thanks Moonshiner!


Revolver 28 Aug 2014, 10:41

Ditto all the below, Moonshiner, you're the greatest.

astigmaphile 28 Aug 2014, 08:22

Moonshiner, thank you for all of your efforts in keeping eyescene online. I miss it when it is gone.

Soundmanpt 28 Aug 2014, 08:18

I also agree with the other s and want to thank you as well

Julian 28 Aug 2014, 08:10

Yes, thanks a lot, Moonshiner.

Jim H 28 Aug 2014, 07:22

Thanks for keeping this site going. Much appreciate!

Crystal Veil 28 Aug 2014, 06:45

Alain is absolutely right. I could not agree more!

AlainHMG 28 Aug 2014, 05:12

Thanks Moonshiner for your dedication in providing us this wonderful site. Long life to Eyescene!

Lv2c4i 28 Aug 2014, 04:25

As another happy to see everyone back here again, I join in thanking Moonshiner for his efforts and ongoing service. And in wishing his wife well with her health issues.

GL 28 Aug 2014, 04:08

Me three. 8))))

gwgs 28 Aug 2014, 01:42

Good to see this site back up and running, I've missed you over the last couple of days :(

Moonshiner 27 Aug 2014, 19:23

I have completed the move to the new host. If you find anything that isn't working, post it here and I'll look into it.

Moonshiner 27 Aug 2014, 19:17


 09 Aug 2014, 23:34

Download Helper

Lv2c4i 08 Aug 2014, 08:14

Does anyone have any suggestions/instructions on the best "tool" for downloading and saving online videos (like newscasters in glasses from network websites) to one's computer? I use Firefox 31.0 on a windows computer. Thanks for any direction or recommendation.

Galileo 01 Aug 2014, 21:43

Thanks for the advice Michael

Michael 01 Aug 2014, 14:59


Never download anything that you don't know what it is. When an update is available for flash player I get a message from Adobe that an update is available and then download and install it. Don't ever download flash player from another web site other than Adobe. Or else there is a good chance you will put malware on your computer. Also be careful of messages that appear to come from Microsoft but don't that say your computer has infections and do you want to clean up your computer. Always click no. I can't emphasize that enough. Because if you click yes all you will do is infect your computer. As long as you have an updated anti virus anti spyware program on your computer don't worry about these messages if one does appear.They are phony.

I used to oversee the computers in the community room of my apartment building and a couple of times people saw one of those messages and clicked yes that they wanted the computer cleaned up. And what happened after was the computer was one huge mess. System restore is a good tool to use to fix computer issues as long as you can go back far enough. If you run into a problem you have to remember exactly when the problem began.You only can go back so far using system restore which brings your computer back to the state it was in on an earlier date. But sometimes if you computer gets infected system restore will become disabled and won't work. Then you can try to use it with the computer in safe mode. Sometimes it might work that way but there is no guarantee.

Just be careful when downloading things. if you don't know what it is and what the program does my rule of thumb is don't do it. And one more thing. As long as you have flash player installed on your computer you shouldn't have to download it again to view any web site. Even if you have an older version of flash player the web site in all likelihood still should work.I don't know what you use for a browser but if you use Google Chrome flash player is already included in the download so you don't even have to download and install flash player separately.

Melyssa 01 Aug 2014, 10:40

It's nice to see (through a unisex blue pair of glasses at this moment) Eyescene back up again. I also had the "Bandwidth Exceeded" message the past two days in both Mozilla Firefox and Internet Exploder.

Galileo 01 Aug 2014, 08:44

I have had the same experience Specs4ever describes, on a number of websites recently. I just exited the sites since I know I have flashplayer. I had not realised it was a Malware scam and will be even more careful in future. Thanks!

Owlish 01 Aug 2014, 08:39

Good to see Eyescene back online. I've been getting a "Bandwidth exceeded" message for a couple of days now. From the lack of new postings it looks as though others got the same and the website was truly down.

Val 29 Jul 2014, 16:03

S4E, I think that it will be better if I send your message to the tech support. Maybe they will find an answer.

Specs4ever 29 Jul 2014, 10:15

Hi Val: Actually I do not think I clicked on one of the ads. I clicked on a story and it brought up a screen telling me that my flash player needed to have an update installed. Being fairly computer literate I immediately did the "con alt del" and shut it down. I then went on the internet to see what I could find for information on this. The following is what I found:

Fake update of Flash Player Pro from unknown web sites is the most common source of malware these days. The next time you receive a warning stating that Your Flash Player may be out of date. Please update to continue please ignore it. As much as possible, decease your connection from the Internet before you click on any button of the pop-up box. You must know that this fake update of Flash Player Pro intends to download malware onto your computer as soon as you intervene with it.

On other times, it will pop-up as a box saying Download Flash Player Pro. Same as the mentioned earlier, it tries to force you into downloading a malware that is pretending to be an update from Adobe Flash. Be aware that Flash Player Pro virus may be deceiving. Malware authors make it look real so that it can mislead computer users. The only sign to confirm that it is fake is the originating address of the file. If Flash Player Pro is hosted on unknown or suspicious web sites, better ignore it. If you really need an update to any of the programs installed on the computer, it is safer to obtain them by going to developers official web site and download page.

Val 29 Jul 2014, 06:30

I am sorry, but I still have no news regarding Vision and Spex.

I use Google Chrome on W7. My antivirus is Nod32 and I also use Spybot Search and Destroy. I didn't get any notice when I visit the site about any virus present. But I don't click on the ADS present on the page. Maybe one of the ads is triggering some software installation that could be a virus.


specs4ever 28 Jul 2014, 16:18

Hi Revolver:

I am not sure if Val has figured out what the problem is. There were some posts over there from other folks that were saying that they had not had any problems. But I know I had to "control_alt_delete" to get to task manager and close the site to prevent an automatic installation of a virus/malware.

Since then I have only been using a linux based computer (Ubuntu 14.4) to check that site.

I will e mail you shortly.

Revolver 28 Jul 2014, 14:11

S4, this is the proper forum to post the bad news about a virus on the other site. Otherwise, we might go there and find out about it the hard way. Is there an update as to whether the webmaster has the problem solved yet? I have no way of checking there with a linus machine and there is at least one story that is awaiting part three. Also, as it is getting to be that time of year again, send me an e-mail.

specs4ever 23 Jul 2014, 14:21

This isn't really eyescene news, but since a lot of eyescene visitors generally go to Vision and Spex to read the fantasy stories I thought I had better let you know that my antivirus had blocked me from going to Vision and Spex. It tells me that there is a malicious virus there, and I did try to go around it to enter the site. Sure enough something tried to hijack my computer. When I checked it out on Google it is a supposed update to firefox flash player that is indeed a fairly serious virus. I have mentioned it to Val so that he can look into it.

In the interval I will be using a linus machine to venture into Vision and spex.

Melyssa 28 Apr 2014, 16:05

Revolver & Soundmanpt,

Thank you so much for the birthday wishes!

It is now after midnight in Moscow. My birthday began at 6:00 a.m. EDT today when the clock struck midnight in Kiritimati, and will continue until 8:00 a.m. EDT Wednesday, when that day begins in Baker Island. :)

Soundmanpt, wake up and go to sleep! LOL

Revolver, my present will be another pair of blue cat's-eyes to have done in time for the 30th anniversary of my senior pair of drop-temples next month.

Soundmanpt 28 Apr 2014, 12:07


How rude of me. It took "Revolver" to wake me up. Of course I too wish you a very Happy Birthday.

Revolver 28 Apr 2014, 10:56

Happy Birthday, old girl. Let me guess: your present to yourself is another half diopter add in your multifocals!

Just kidding, thanks for being such a loyal and insightful (no pun intended) poster. Also, thanks for keeping a lost art alive, that being drop temples.

Melyssa 28 Apr 2014, 07:47

Yesterday it was just a white screen when I tried it out. Now, close to 8:00 a.m. EDT as it is just about to be my birthday in New Zealand and Fiji and today in Baker Island, it works fine.

Julian 28 Apr 2014, 04:09

Yes, Vision-and-Spex seems to be working this morning (09.10 British Summer Time)

astigmaphile 27 Apr 2014, 21:16

I just got on Vision-and-Spex and it seems to be working. It is 1815hrs Pacific Daylight Saving Time here in Sanrta barbara, Ca USA. It did not work this morning.

Val 27 Apr 2014, 17:17

Something is happening with Vision-and-Spex.

I can open the index page, but I cannot log on as admin. It freezes.

It's past midnight for me, so I'll try again in the morning.

Julian 27 Apr 2014, 14:50

Is Vision-and-Spex down? I haven't ben able to get on all day.

Paul 12 Apr 2014, 19:22

Once again: It doesn't matter if this site is running over SSL or not. Any public service running on the server which is using an exploitable version of the OpenSSL library could potentially be used to gain access to the server. So a hacker with root access to the server could plant malware into the eyescene website files so everybody visiting this site would be in danger.

However it seems to be fixed now.

Please don't get me wrong... I'm loving eyescene and my intention is not to blame anyone. My profession is programming and security, so I just had to point that out.

Val 12 Apr 2014, 10:09

I don't think that eyescene uses SSL. So it it's NOT VULNERABLE. You should worry if the site you are visiting has https:\\ in front.

Paul 10 Apr 2014, 18:40

Somebody could hijack the private key/password of the server and implement malware. Now since the exploit (hack) is known, script kiddies will use scanners to find unpatched servers and attack these. So there is a a potential danger for everybody visiting this site. Please take this serious.

Puffin 10 Apr 2014, 18:19

But does it matter? There are no logins or passwords to steal.

Paul 10 Apr 2014, 12:06


I'm working in computer security and noticed that has still not been fixed regarding the SSL Heartbleed bug. You can check this here:

Whoever administrates this site: Please take immediate action!

Helpful 05 Apr 2014, 03:35

You see Moonshiner I cannot even type properly

Helpful 05 Apr 2014, 03:33

Agree entirely with that comment as we all missed ES. We are just luck there are such clever people around who understand computers and that includes Moonshine. Thanks

Slit 05 Apr 2014, 01:52

Thanks a lot for effort Moonshiner!

Moonshiner 05 Apr 2014, 01:31

There was apparently a problem with the server where eyescene is hosted. After several messages back and forth with them, they sent this:

"I am clearing dns flush this should work 100% for now on. Thank you for your paitience"

It seems to work good now, lets hope it stays that way.

Yoyo 04 Apr 2014, 20:18

Now it works from work! Perhaps we are back?

still 04 Apr 2014, 18:48

I wasn't able to get the site for about three days.

I'm glad we still exist.

Melyssa 04 Apr 2014, 14:37

Same here, Yoyo.

Yoyo 03 Apr 2014, 21:24

Very odd -- I can access the site from home, but not if I try from work.

Puffin 03 Apr 2014, 08:40

I am in the UK, couple of days ago there was a brief period with no access. The rest of the time over the last few weeks, no problem.

PeterG 03 Apr 2014, 03:49

If you use ZenMate on Chrome (or Hola) you can set proxy access to US or UK. The UK works best so far, no glitches, the US works sometimes, rest of Europe returns a "Webpage not available".

-14 02 Apr 2014, 20:08

Chat is down now.

Soundmanpt 02 Apr 2014, 16:27

There seems to be a major problem going on. It has taken many tries to finally get in and even after getting in then it takes a while to go from thread to thread.

Its a real pain I hope it gets fixed soon.

specs4ever 01 Apr 2014, 22:17

It has been a real problem for a lot of folks Filthy. I am using a browser that is redirecting me to access it right now. I e mailed Moonshiner and even he is unable to get on. He is trying to get the problem rectified so hang tight.

Filthy McNasty 01 Apr 2014, 08:50

What has Ben up with the site lately? For four or five days it is available only periodically. Is it just me?

Specs4ever 11 Mar 2014, 19:43

You are likely correct Bobby. I guess I will put it back on for next month as well. It is just that I want to send it out to the buyer immediately so I am checking 2 and 3 times a day. I just got a little discouraged, thats all.

And I will be away from a computer for about 4 days next week, so I won't be able to ship as fast as I would like to

Bobby 11 Mar 2014, 10:02

S4E, I think you should give it some more time.

specs4ever 09 Mar 2014, 20:45

There was quite a bit of interest for my e book during the first week, but over the past 2 weeks interest has completely died off. The eBay listing expires in a week, and I will not be renewing it.

Thanks to the people who purchased it. The effort might not be spent to collect the stories and publish a second book like was originally planned

Revolver 21 Feb 2014, 14:59

Hee hee hee, S4 is right about me being a non techie. But not totally, no prob with computers, but he and I had great discussion about smart phones, I-pads, and E-books. I choose not to go that route because I don't want a phone that's smarter than I am, and for me nothing will ever replace the feel of a book or newspaper. Sure am enjoying the CD, though.

Specs4ever 21 Feb 2014, 09:04

Warning to all: The only person to have a CD of the book is my non techie friend Revolver. I see him frequently and I delivered the CD to him personally. All others get the e book format.

It would be cost prohibitive to send out CD's containing the stories.

Revolver 20 Feb 2014, 14:19

Memo to all: have a copy of S-4's product (CD) and it is absolutely terrific as usual. Highly recommend it.

Specs4ever 19 Feb 2014, 13:12

I have managed to finally do a proper e Bay listing for multiple copies of the same item - as a business seller.

So, the listing goes for 30 days and I plan to renew it for another 30.

The new listion is:

Thanks for your patience

Specs4ever 18 Feb 2014, 18:54

Sorry folks but the e Bay listing I posted ended up being for only one sale. My fault because I jumped on a List it Free deal and didn't realize I had to pay for the listing if I wanted to do multiple copies. I have a new listing for Dlb on there right now and as soon as he either completes the transaction or lets it go the 24 hours I have suggested he has I will relist this as a pay for deal with multiple copies available. Bear with me please.

specs4ever 17 Feb 2014, 21:08

Since Bobby has gone to a blog type site I have not wanted to place any of my new stories on there. I have developed quite a backlog of tales, so I have combined 10 new stories into an e book and I am selling it on e Bay. The book is called A Collection of Glasses Stories and anyone who is interested can find it on e bay as item number 221376192805.

The sale price is $5.95 and it will be delivered in 3 formats: EPUB, MOBI and PDF.

If I sell a few of the books I will do a second one in a couple of months.

The listing is up for 30 days and I will renew it for another month after that.

It is a fixed price auction and you can pay with paypal. I will e mail the formats to you once Pay pal notifies me that the payment has been received.

lentifan 25 Jan 2014, 19:34

Yes, it's back for me, too, now

Val 25 Jan 2014, 10:56

Lentifan, for me it's working very well, at least on my PC, Windows 7, Google Chrome...

lentifan 24 Jan 2014, 11:27

Any word, Konstantin, of a resolution to your problem with 'fotki'? Your site is denying me access. We miss it!

Forest 09 Jan 2014, 23:26


this page is back!

thank u so much

Moonshiner 02 Jan 2014, 03:39


specs4ever 01 Jan 2014, 09:34

I was debating about posting a new story over at Vision and Spex because we have had some good stories posted there during the past month. But the one I posted has been sitting around since last january and I decided that I would go ahead and post it as a New Years bonus for everyone.

Enjoy and all the best for 2014 to all.

And thanks to Moonshiner,and Val for keeping the 2 sites up and running

Specs4Me 31 Dec 2013, 19:26

The URL in the post below to Bobby's blog is actually correct except for the ')' at the end having been included in the URL. Try this one:

Bobby 31 Dec 2013, 18:22

Happy new year, everybody.

Julian 31 Dec 2013, 15:26

Revolver: you did go to the URL I quoted, didn't you? I've just clicked on it and got a message saying the page doesn't exist, but down the right hand side was a list of the stories, morphs &c, and I clicked on one of those and got to it. Bobby's old site is kaput, but you can still access the stories via vision-and-spex, Forum feedback and news, Bobby's sites, Erik's post of around 15 May. Hope that's some help. All the best for 2014.

Love an kisses, Jules.

Revolver 31 Dec 2013, 14:58

Julian: clicked on your link to Bobby's, got message it can't be found. Any suggestions?

A. P. 30 Dec 2013, 21:26


Yes, I think your solution concerning Youtube videos would be a tolerable one if Gus and others persist with the spam and make it necessary. Posting (without the link) the exact title of the video we wish to share, along with a succinct description of the video's subject matter, shouldn't be too difficult for us longtime Eyescene contributors to handle. I have shared many Youtube videos here over the years..... usually on the "Musicians" and "Actresses" threads. I'm certainly willing to go along with your plan without complaint if you deem it unavoidable.


Julian 30 Dec 2013, 19:21

I've just looked at Bobby's blog ( for the first time in ages and I was delighted to find that he's uploaded twenty or so more of the stories that were on his other site.

Thanks Bobby, keep up the good work, and above all have a good new year in 2014!

Moonshiner 30 Dec 2013, 03:18

I deleted some spam and blocked an IP address in San Francisco. I may have to block Youtube links to stop the spam, If I do, any one wanting to show a video from Youtube can put the title of the video in the post (copy and paste) and viewers can go to Youtube and find it by searching for the title.

Val 28 Dec 2013, 06:22

As the administrator of Vision And Spex, I can say is simple for me to block users or IP addresses. I did it at least ten times before. And I will do it again, when necessary.

I am not a computer engineer, the software is free for use, available on the internet. But using the server, and parking the domain it's not free.

Like Moonshiner does for Eyescene, I pay for the site from my own pocket. It's not much. But it's not free for me. Everybody is welcome without any costs. If you only want to read the posts, you can come as guest. No need for user or password.

Only if you want to post a message, you will need to register.

The important thing is that Eyescene still lives. One way or another...

EyeTri 27 Dec 2013, 13:47

I tend to agree with Trent. To me, the postings of Gus and others like him are minor nuisance and I don't think that's enough reason to change EyeScene.

A. P. 27 Dec 2013, 11:58

Trent: your comment was perfectly stated. Amen.

Juicebox 27 Dec 2013, 11:38


Ahh I haven't used that website, though I think I've seen it mentioned on here. I'd be all up for doing something like that. I do agree with Trent though that registration would likely deter newcomers. Cactus Jack and yourself, amongst others, are extremely helpful to people who don't regularly use the site (as well as those that do) and it would be a shame for people to no longer have easy access to that information..

Trent 26 Dec 2013, 22:09

I disagree with having a username and pw, it would deter new people from coming to the site and stifle growth. I love the open nature of Eye Scene, lets keep it the way it is. Just continue to delete spam from gus and others and don't let them get under your skin.

Soundmanpt 26 Dec 2013, 20:49


I would think it could be as simple as the "Vision and specs" site. All that was needed there was an email address and username as I recall. like you I don't care that anyone knows my actual name is Jim.

It's really a shame that it even needs to be done but if that will keep the crack pots out then its worth it.

Julian 26 Dec 2013, 19:42

Oh come on; registration needn't involve more than a username and a password.

Juicebox 26 Dec 2013, 16:12

Just adding my 2 pence (I'm from the UK), for me, it would depend on the depth to which the registration went into. I wouldn't really feel too comfortable giving away my location or my full name, not because I don't trust people on here, but because there are some weirdos out there and once something is on the Internet, it is there forever no matter how careful people holding the information are. However, I would be more than happy to give my email address and if it meant I could keep using the site, my first name. Its been so great having people to talk to and get support from on here and I wouldn't want it to disappear purely because some people have too much spare time on their hands and take so much pleasure from other people's frustrations (I'm part German and we have a lovely word for it that you may have heard: schadenfreude). Maybe jumping ship before we hit the iceberg here in the sense that I have no idea if the moderator would even consider registration, but just though I'd share my feelings on the sitch.

A. P. 26 Dec 2013, 13:50

If registration were to be imposed, it might keep out the "riff raff"...... or it might not.

What registration certainly would do is keep out some longtime contributors to this site who simply prefer to maintain their anonymity. I've made plenty of tasteful contributions to Eyescene over the past several years, but I will not register under any circumstances. I believe there must be other regulars here who share my view.

Do we really need to let a few bad apples (most notably that Gus/Ralph guy) to restrict this great site for the rest of us? Just my two cents worth.

Melyssa 26 Dec 2013, 07:58

I also agree that registration may just have to be the way to go. Sure it may take a little time at the beginning, but if it keeps out the riff-raff, it's worth it. And it would be great to have an avatar available so I can show a lot of many of my pretty cat's-eyes. :)

Julian 26 Dec 2013, 03:52

S4E and astigmaphile: I agree with you. Some of the old-timers here will remember that between 1999 and 2001 EyeScene appeared in a format that included registration for members but still allowed visitors to post, with some restrictions on what they could do. That seemed to work OK. You may be able to check this out on the archive Bobby set up - check the front page.

astigmaphile 25 Dec 2013, 15:56

I agree with specs4ever. I am registered at and would be more than happy to do so here.

specs4ever 25 Dec 2013, 09:46

Despite your best efforts Moonshiner, what with public WiFi hotpots all over the place as well as programs that mask the users IP address you will never be able to get rid of all the posers such as Gus.

When Wurm announced that he was closing this site and Val started up the other site that required registration I was quite happy because I figured that with registration most of the problems would be eliminated.

You have done the best you can to keep this site going and for that we thank you. But I think you know that the only way to eliminate these annoying people is through registation.

Don't know if I am the only one that thinks this way, but this is just my thought.

Merry Vhristmas and a Happy New Year.

Moonshiner 23 Dec 2013, 02:50

I blocked another IP address which is a public one, like a WiFi hotspot at a restaurant etc. from San Lorenzo, California.

Moonshiner 23 Dec 2013, 02:41


Moonshiner 23 Dec 2013, 02:41


Stingray 17 Dec 2013, 18:19

The problems I had were from malware and not related to this site. Sorry for alarming everyone.

Crystal Veil 17 Dec 2013, 17:18

No problems here either (sigh of relief)

still 17 Dec 2013, 16:26

No problems here, either.

Andrew 17 Dec 2013, 16:16

Yes, I have. I had to have my disks cleared of junk (thanks mostly to my children), which fixed the problem.

bill 17 Dec 2013, 15:59

No problems here.

Soundmanpt 17 Dec 2013, 15:20

No I haven't

Stingray 17 Dec 2013, 14:27

For the past several days I have been getting all sorts of pop-up advertisements on this site. In addition, certain words are highlighted in the text of the forum and if you just place your mouse on the highlighted text, another pop up appears. Has anyone else experienced this?

Puffin 13 Dec 2013, 10:57

Time to block youtube links? Maybe just for a while until he leaves us in peace?

It's easy to find glasses/makeup videos online without coming here anyway.

Yoyo 12 Dec 2013, 20:04

Gus is back in the Seen on the Web thread.

Moonshiner 11 Dec 2013, 03:07

I blocked a couple more IP addresses that were posting spam.

Julian 10 Dec 2013, 17:19

They're still coming though, e.g. today at 14.08, this thread ::(

still 10 Dec 2013, 14:13

Thanks, Moonshiner. Not opening those "messages" was like avoiding skid zones on the road.

GreginColo 10 Dec 2013, 14:10

I also add my thanks to the site host, so hope that we will see no more of the nonsense radio posts that do not relate to the topics matters of this site. Thanks, greg.

 10 Dec 2013, 14:08

post deleted - spam

Revolver 10 Dec 2013, 13:55

Thanks also, Moonshiner. I think I can speak for the whole Eyescene community when I say we greatly appreciate everything you've done for us.

Specs4Me 10 Dec 2013, 09:05

Post below from 'sp' is from me. Fat finger error.

sp 10 Dec 2013, 09:03

Thank you Moonshiner!

Crystal Veil 10 Dec 2013, 03:24

Thanks, Moonshiner!

Moonshiner 10 Dec 2013, 03:11

I deleted some posts from "gus" and some others from a user posting under multiple user names. Both of the users should now be blocked. If they reappear, I may have to block additional IP addresses.

Melyssa 08 Dec 2013, 10:47

There are about "2200 to 2300" ways to figure out which poster is Gus. Definitely a ban on said individual is in order.

bill 08 Dec 2013, 03:14

Sadly this site needs to clean up it's act and get rid of all offensive material.

 07 Dec 2013, 22:01

post deleted - spam

GL 07 Dec 2013, 08:16


The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Puffin 06 Dec 2013, 17:29

I'm remembering the heyday of this site when I first discovered it 10-12 years ago. It's sad to see how it is now with the nonsense going on at present. Perhaps its time to go to "vision-and-spex"?

Holger 06 Dec 2013, 13:56

post deleted - poster using multiple names

Soundmanpt 06 Dec 2013, 13:09


Yeah stupid ass is using us all. I knew when I saw it that it wasn't you. Just a jerk with way too much time on his hands so playing in here like a 2 year old has become his fun.

At some point I hope this page can be controlled by using the e-mails of users. That would solve a lot of those jerks from using this as a play site.

Carrie 06 Dec 2013, 12:48

Below wasn't me.

Carrie 06 Dec 2013, 10:58

post deleted - poster using multiple names

Very concerned  06 Dec 2013, 10:37


That person is not only on the Guys with Glasses thread but is oln nearly all of them with the nonsense of some radio show. On many of the other sites he is even posting using other people's name that are regulars in here.

tinyeyes 06 Dec 2013, 09:40

Who's the administrator for this site? We have a problem with a spammer on the Guys with Glasses thread. Who can help? They are posting unrelated links without any kind of description, which on the old site would have been deleted immediately.

specs4ever 01 Dec 2013, 10:08

I posted a new story over on Vision and Spex for December if anyone is interested

Cactus Jack 16 Nov 2013, 10:58


I am really messed up this morning, the post mentioned below was to Jim on the Vision thread.


Cactus Jack 16 Nov 2013, 10:55


I tried to post a 500 word response to Tom on the Post your Prescription thread and got an Error 404. I posted a very short "Test" and there was no problem.


astigmaphile 13 Nov 2013, 16:09


I love it. Dreck sums it up, or in California where you hear alot of Spanish, basura.

Soundmanpt 13 Nov 2013, 13:08

Yeah! I just ignore him.

Puffin 13 Nov 2013, 12:15

Yes he does seem to be "Gus" reborn.

And I although I can't quite fathom why he bothers, I simply don't care.

Soundmanpt 13 Nov 2013, 11:17

I do the same as you all do. i don't even bother opening any of those things up. I am not sure why he/she thinks any of us have the least interest in them.

Melyssa 13 Nov 2013, 07:37

Count me in three, and I have never even clicked on any of Gus-Ralph's dreck.

Specs4Me 12 Nov 2013, 23:36

Count me in too. He hung around as 'Gus' for a while and now has changed his name but continues to post totally unrelated and annoying stuff. I hope there is a way to get rid of him once and for all.

lazysiow 12 Nov 2013, 23:32

No you're not the only one. Getting annoyed with them already

Smudge 12 Nov 2013, 03:21

Is it just me who finds Ralph Tyko's posts of his radio show on the Seen on the Web thread annoying?

I must admit I haven't listened to them all in full, but the bits I have listened to seem to have no relevance to this message board.

Can he be warned/removed/blocked please?

Astra 01 Nov 2013, 19:49

Dear friends,

My flickr account , I suspect is terminated by flickr .

So that this page is likely unavailable .

All4Eyes 31 Oct 2013, 02:11

Happy Halloween! It's been "long time no see" for me here, but I'm gonna be busy this week catching up on posts.

I ALWAYS make passes at guys who wear glasses, Marie

Cactus Jack 13 Sep 2013, 21:15


I was unable to post a 419 word reply to ConcernedMama on the Vision thread. Got an error 404. I tried a "Test" post on Vision and it worked.


 13 Sep 2013, 09:13

I was wondering what was going on? How can I get the message that starts off saying "509 Bandwidth limit exceeded" to delete at the bottom of my computer now. I have tried everything.

Moonshiner 13 Sep 2013, 03:02

Eyescene must be getting more popular, It has exceeded the monthly bandwidth limit of 5 gigabytes per month which seems like a lot since this is a text only site. The entire site files are only around 48 MB. I have made a payment for a higher bandwidth hosting package that triples the monthly bandwidth.

Julian 13 Sep 2013, 02:54

Welcome back, EyeScene!

Galileo 16 Aug 2013, 22:20

Hi Moonshine, trying to post on seen on the web and getting a 403 access forbidden message. Any idea?

Moonshiner 16 Aug 2013, 11:59

There was a server outage at the hosting facility, hopefully, the host has resolved the issues with their server and it will stay on line.

gwgs 16 Aug 2013, 03:33

You're back! What happened baby?

Spexman 15 Aug 2013, 16:18

Oh Eyescene I have missed you :-)

hope to see interesting things soon

 07 Aug 2013, 22:41

Moonshiner doesn't answer emails from people here.

Reader 31 Jul 2013, 09:47

I'm with Bobby in touch. The last time I communicated with him, he said that your page is put into operation soon. I tried to get him promise he would do it in September, but the man is stubborn and has some problems (which it did not want to talk in detail). Perhaps some of the old members of the community will be able to push Bobby and force him to do something with the page / open it. I do not have the option of Bobby more influence. I think we need to push him along. (Sorry for the mistakes, I understand written text well, but I use Goggle translator for English writing.)

Moonshiner 30 Jul 2013, 18:03

I deleted some posts (and an orphaned reply) in XXX links from a different IP address but the same city as an IP address i previously blocked for posting using anonymous and multiple user names. That IP address should now also be blocked from posting.

Moonshiner 30 Jul 2013, 17:48


Julian 29 Jul 2013, 09:18

S4E: maybe you ought to do that. It is such a shame that Bobby's site is kaputt; but besides that there has been nothing posted on his blog since 10 April. However: does everybody know that although his old site is out of commission all the stories on it can still be reached? For details see Erik's May post on Vision & Spex:

Specs4ever 29 Jul 2013, 07:12

One of my oldest friends from the early days of Eyescene has proposed setting up a site where all my stories can be posted. He has even sent me a mock up of it. I do not know the ins and outs of web sites, and the one time I tried my own site was a disaster because I couldn't post the stories myself. If we can work out the logistics so that I can do the posting of the stories myself I am seriously considering doing this.

This way people who do not like my stories will not have to read them.

Thanks to everyone who responded favorably towards my work. I have said before that for the most part I write a story for my own pleasure. But I also have to admit that being able to post the story for others to read does help drive me to write another new one. Having no outlet for them has resulted in me only completing one story over the summer. So the idea of a place to post them has had my head spinning with ideas.

Storyreader 29 Jul 2013, 03:49

Specs4ever: I appreciate your stories and I know I'm not the only one. Why not post them on V&A for now and see if anyone comes up with a more comprehensive site like Bobby's used to be?

Specs4Me 29 Jul 2013, 00:34

S4E - I'm with Anon, your stories are greatly appreciated as is seen by the comments every time you post a story.

If this Baroosa person is such a great connoisseur of and top critic of great stories I'm sitting here wondering where his fantastic stories are that he is using to compare to yours. Gosh, I've looked everywhere and I can't seem to find any. Hmm, I also don't recall ever seeing posts from this person either, so speaking for one who has been around for a while, (and posts occasionally when he sees a need to) I think I speak for at least a large number of and perhaps the majority of the REGULARS on this site that we would love for you to keep posting your stories.

Looking forward to the next story, I am


Anon 28 Jul 2013, 19:45

Hey Specs4ever, I can assure you that I believe Barossa is very much in the minority. I love reading all your stories and read the older ones over and over again.

Please continue to contibute.

Yoyo 28 Jul 2013, 19:22

Borrosa, the thing about Roger Ebert is that when he criticized a movie he usually offered suggestions about how it could be better. Your post offers nothing of the sort and is just rude sniping, so you shouldn't be surprised by the response you got.

lentifan 28 Jul 2013, 16:20

Not much makes me angry, these days, but Borrossa's posting, and others like it, come close. You would note he (surely not a she?) does not himself offer to contribute a story. He airily implies there are lots of people out there who will happily contribute 'better' stories, but the only thing preventing them is that the current crop of writers are hogging the sites.

In addition to obvious rudeness, his posting thus combines arrogance and a complete lack of reality. I have toyed with writing some examples of the genre myself. The experience has taught me that writing good stories requires creativity and imagination combined with the discipline and effort to get it into text and edit it. There are two reasons I haven't tried to post any of my efforts. Firstly I haven't yet completed the work to edit any of them to a level I'm happy with (and I'm far from being a perfectionist). And secondly I'm all too aware how poor my efforts are in comparison to those of Specs4ever and others who have contributed many EXCELLENT stories over the years. In a number of my efforts the plot simply runs into the sand and the story is never finished. Maybe others have the same problem.

I assure Specs4ever that I for one miss his stories and urge him to publish his backlog however he can. I am sure we all wish Bobby success in overcoming whatever difficulties he is facing in getting his site back up.

Puffin 28 Jul 2013, 14:13

I don't see any problem with someone new writing a story. If you believe you have something new or interesting to say, do it.

Specs4ever 28 Jul 2013, 14:07

Well well, if Borrosa's opinion is in the majority here there certainly isn't much incentive for me to ever post another story

 28 Jul 2013, 11:35

Isn't that like telliing Roger Ebert to go win an Oscar if he dares to criticzes a film? Or telling someone who critcize football team to go see if you can win the Superbowl?

Oh so I guess we are now only allowed to criticize something if we can do it better? Good luck convincing all the sports critics, movie critics, book critics, etc. of your demand on them.

Asorrob 28 Jul 2013, 09:16

Then let's see what you have to offer, Herr Critic!

Borrosa 28 Jul 2013, 08:08

I think we need to face the reality we need BETTER writers than the current self-appointed authors. It would do the community much more justice if the current crop just stepped aside and gave up.

I know this sounds like I am being harsh, but in the same way a critic reviews a book on the Times Bestseller List, I'm giving my opinion that the stories I've seen here and on V&S just plain stink.

Cactus Jack 26 Jul 2013, 09:36

Writing and editing a good story is hard, time consuming, work, I recently wrote a story "The Strabismus Institute" and posted it in parts on the Vision & Specs site. In my naivet I posted the parts with little review and editing (as kindly suggested by S4E) and the story has internal inconsistencies and an unsatisfying ending. I intend to re-write the story because I think I can do better. Everyone has to start somewhere and often our first efforts leave something to be desired.

A friend who has a reputation as an excellent amateur photographer told me his secret a few years ago. "Take lots and lots of pictures, but sort them carefully. Never, never, never let anyone else see your bad ones. Five or ten really good pictures are vastly better to show the neighbors than a hundred or so random pictures of nothing interesting to anyone but your immediate family.

Before complaining too much, try writing a story yourself. Unfortunately, because of the uniqueness of our typical stories, it is hard to find an understanding friend to read and comment. A poor second choice is to, as S4E suggested, put the story away for a while and then go back and edit it yourself before you publish it. A third choice is to go ahead and post your story, face your critics with a smile, learn and try again. Practice makes perfect.

In a perfect world, I would likely ask Val to delete my story, but while the story is not the best I think I can do, it might be better than nothing for desperate OOs in the midst of a story drought. I find summer is not a very good time to write or edit. Sometimes you just want to actually and figuratively, Chill Out.


Specs4ever 26 Jul 2013, 07:27

My first reaction was "does this deserve an answer." But I guess it does. While I am not as enamored by the community as I once was we are still all people with a common interest and I don't have any axe to grind.

I write my stories first for my own enjoyment. I probably write a story a year ahead of putting it out on the web, and over that year I read it and revise it again and again, until I reach a point where I feel I can do nothing more with it. When it does go out, I want others to enjoy it as much as I have enjoyed writing it.

But I don't like the fact that the only outlet now available for my story can mean that a story that I have spent a lot of time on can immediately be buried by another story. I used to like Bobby's site a lot, because I had my own section. But it is no longer available to anyone.

As a result I am sitting on a lot of stories. With no home for them I have pretty much quit writing new ones. So as a result it seems that I have again retired.

 25 Jul 2013, 21:18

Some of us are still writing but it is easier to just watch than to get involved any more.

 25 Jul 2013, 19:19

What is going on with the writers of glasses related stories? Bobby has not updated his blog for about 3 months. His website is still down, and no one has been posting anything on vision and spex.

Trent 24 Jul 2013, 21:48


Moonshiner 18 Jul 2013, 22:57


THE NAKED TRUTH 14 Jul 2013, 05:27

Put away your noisemakers and party hats, and now let's get back to reality.

This forum has a lot more problems than some anonymous posters; there are some rather cruel and bitter people here posting with "character names" who need to lighten up and stop attacking other users like rabid dogs. If you want be real about it, those "character names" are just as fake as anyone posting with no name at all, but they descend on those people with all their wilding venom.

The same story goes for all the regular "character name know it alls" who post so frequently they think this is their own personal sounding board to the world about how much they know it all about glasses. I get so sick of seeing those same few names over again each and every day. Can we let some other people answer once in awhile?

I am just presenting THE NAKED TRUTH to you.

Lv2c4i 12 Jul 2013, 06:18

I gladly echo these other appreciations. Thank you for providing for us eyewear fans.

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Soundmanpt 11 Jul 2013, 17:29


Marc C. 11 Jul 2013, 14:51

Same here.

Revolver 11 Jul 2013, 13:21

Thank you, Moonshiner. I think I can speak for all of the legitimate posters on this site when I say we greatly appreciated all your hard work.

Moonshiner 10 Jul 2013, 21:21

I deleted some inappropriate post in some threads. I have also corrected a typo that should now block the Virginia IP address that was using multiple user names or no user name. Please see the FAQ page for posting guidelines.

Moonshiner 10 Jul 2013, 18:58


Revolver 22 Jun 2013, 12:33

Nirv: problem solved. Yes, I hit the play button as the videos played in their entirety and I could use the CC. Problem was when I clicked on the speaker icon and the x next to it, nothing happened. Turns out there's a horizontal tab next to the x that is the volume control and somehow it'd gotten slid all the way to the left which shut the sound down completely, but didn't show the speaker icon as being on mute. Works fine now, didn't need to call in the noob exorcist.

 22 Jun 2013, 05:59


Moonshiner 21 Jun 2013, 23:17

I deleted some inappropriate post in the Julian's jottings and Seen on the Web threads. I have also blocked the Virgiana IP address most were from. This address and another in Colorado were using multiple user names on no user name. Please see the FAQ page for posting guidelines.

Moonshiner 21 Jun 2013, 22:47


Moonshiner 21 Jun 2013, 22:41


nickweymouth 21 Jun 2013, 11:34

may one please wish everybody a happy solstice day thank you blessed be

Nirvana 19 Jun 2013, 14:35

Smells like noob spirit.

These videos work just fine for me too. Are you sure you are hitting the play button?

Revolver 18 Jun 2013, 12:50

The Middlehurst was the first I discovered the problem, but it's on every single youtube video no matter what the topic.

Posted on this thread because the youtube videos on this site are about the only ones I open.

Soundmanpt 17 Jun 2013, 18:38


Are you referring to "Seen it on the Web" thread? If your looking at the "Paula Middlehurst" video it works fine for me.

Revolver 17 Jun 2013, 14:23

I read Blogger's posting on Seen On The Internet thread and clicked on the youtube link, and couldn't get sound. My sound is working fine on any other item not on youtube with sound, but I checked other youtube links at random about other topics, same result. Has anyone here had the same experience?

There's a little speaker icon at the bottom of the youtube link on all of them, with an X beside it, but can't get it to go away and the speaker icon does nothing.

Any suggestions out there?

Cactus Jack 13 Jun 2013, 16:10

All sites are occasionally down for maintenance and other reasons. ES and Vision and Spex are COMPLEMENTARY sites, not COMPETITIVE sites, enjoyed by primarily the same users.


Julian 13 Jun 2013, 14:52

Be reasonable, all of you. How is anyone to post a comment on Vision & Spex if it seems to be down? And we know the owner reads EyeScene. Similarly when this site goes down you can mention it on Vision & Spex.

Carrie Okie 13 Jun 2013, 14:29

I think his point is this. This isn't the Vision and Spex support forum, so posting things here is useless waste of time. If you want the Vision and Spex support people to see it, doesn't it make more sense to post it there?

That's like posting problems with your Revlon makeup on a Maybelline forum. You wouldn't do that, would you?

 13 Jun 2013, 14:05

No! Your name doesn't mean anything to me. Should it? Anyway I don't think that has ever been any problem between the 2 sites. I think Moonshiner is fine with V & S and Val is often in here even. So why are you trying to make a big deal about something that isn't a big deal. So get a life.

Jacque Kauf  13 Jun 2013, 13:42

My name tells it all.

Jacque Kauf 13 Jun 2013, 13:22

Isn't Site Feedback supposed to be about Eyescene? Why is everyone spamming this thread with their comments about V&S.

Let's move it on and take those comments to that site, ok?

Julian 13 Jun 2013, 12:32

I couldn't get on last night, but it's OK today.

 13 Jun 2013, 09:32

It looks like "vision and spexs" is down again.

Val 05 Jun 2013, 02:20

About "Vision-and-spex" site:

It's true that me and Bobby are living in Europe, but the site is hosted in the U.S.

So, the flooding has nothing to do with that.

The host performs daily maintenance and sometimes the site is not accesible.

Now is working fine.

Happy browsing to all.

Cactus Jack 04 Jun 2013, 20:41


Yes. It is possible that the outage is related to the flooding and weather in Europe.


Soundmanpt 04 Jun 2013, 20:09

Is anyone else having any problem getting into "vision and Spex" website?

til 03 Jun 2013, 14:18

I just tried to post on the musicians thread and got an error message. It were 4 links and a description. When I tried it for the fourth time I couldn't access eyes end from my computer anymore and still can't.

Has anyone yet experienced the same or can give advice?

Puffin 30 May 2013, 16:15


 29 May 2013, 16:46

Just learn to walk away from it, Revolver.

While you might consider yourself having been around the block chronologically, you're still obviously immature with how to handle trolls. No matter where you complain, if they can see it, they win. They got under your skin and got you all riled up, so you lost the war. Don't give them that satisfaction!

You're also assuming you speak for everyone with your use of the word "we." But you don't speak for me. I pay them no mind and they don't bother me.

It isn't that hard. Just ignore them.

(anon to avoid personal attacks)

Revolver 29 May 2013, 13:01

Anon: we are not internet newbies, at least myself and Puffin have been on it since it was invented. My point is you're correct in not feeding the trolls but we've tried that and it isn't working so we're asking Moonshiner to at least try to block those postings. Posting that request was intentionally done to this thread rather than in response to one of the troll's postings, not that he won't see it but at least it's not a direct response to one of them on the other threads.

 28 May 2013, 13:37

I guess some people are new to the Internet here, otherwise they would know the phrase "Don't feed the trolls." Ranting and raving over block this, block that, censor this, censor that, does nothing and just shows the troll they are hitting every single button they wanted. You got all pissed off and you keep getting pissed off, so in the end, the troll wins.

Remember you can't censor everything you don't like out of your life. There are always people who do like those things that you might not.

So let's get real... the *most* effective way to get rid of all the postings you don't like is to ignore them and move on. Eventually the troll will grow tired when there is no reaction and move on.

Really. It's a lesson about the Internet. Learn it and sleep a whole lot easier tonight.

(anonymous because I have seen too many attacks here)

Soundmanpt 28 May 2013, 11:46

Never mind, my mistake. I was looking at something else. My bad?

Soundmanpt 28 May 2013, 11:44

What happened to all the threads from may 27th? It looks as if nothing was posted yesterday at all.

Puffin 28 May 2013, 09:55

Is it not possible to block all postings containing "fccfreeradio", rather than specific posters?

Okay, we might very occasionally miss out on someone talking about glasses on that particular radio station, probably not a big problem.

minus5wholuvsgwgs 22 May 2013, 14:05

Thats why nobody should EVER post pictures of under 18s

nickweymouth 22 May 2013, 13:05

sorry not sure where to post this optic obsesives in the uk please be aware there has been a posting on the digital spy thread claining that the man thats abducted and killded tia sharp was subscribed to a few gwgs sites just saying we might have a witch hunt so please be aware and carefull

blessed be Nick

Cactus jack 21 May 2013, 23:32

If anyone is interested, I posted the final 3 parts to The Strabismus Institute story on the Vision and Specs site.


LikeGlass 21 May 2013, 12:44

Blocking posters isn't what it used to be! (I run a few sites) The problem is rotating IP addresses are used by many ISPs now, so you end up blocking a large range and nailing a lot of valid posters in the process. However...

What I have found effective is setting up an in-string trap on the post CGI that terminates if a key phrase is used. (or a certain combination of characters. I keep it as an external text file on the server so new phrases are easy to add or remove.

Revolver 21 May 2013, 12:32

Moonshiner: you've mentioned this possibility before, and have actually blocked some URL's, so could you...please... block this misanthrope who keeps posting about the nun. One or more of our other posters have said the best way to handle it is to just not respond to his postings, but this is obviously not working. No one on this fine site wants this stuff except the chowderhead that does the posting, so please do us all a favor and block it.

Guest 15 May 2013, 09:34

Thanks Eric - thats the one!!

varifocals 15 May 2013, 09:01

Thanks Erik.

Nice story.

specs4ever 15 May 2013, 08:19

Thanks for providing that link Eric. I can access all my own stories, but I do like to read the other writers stories over again. And now I can.

I am not sure what is happening with Bobby. He had indicated that he was going to get the old site up and running again, but of course this is a complex job. And since he is self employed, earning a living takes precedence to this stuff.

I have more stories ready to go, but I really do not care for the blog format so I have been holding off sending any until I know what the end result is going to be. If the blog is the only way, then I will have to either accept it or set up my own page - and that ain't gonna happen.

Also today is my last internet access for a while, so there won't be anything from me anyway.

Erik 15 May 2013, 06:44

Guest: I think this is the Dieter story you're looking for...

Julian 15 May 2013, 06:19

Ahem! It was on Bobby's old site ::(

helpful 15 May 2013, 06:10

the author was DIETER but cannot trace it for the moment

Guest 15 May 2013, 05:49

Can someone identify a story posted sometime ago - not sure who the author was. It involves a girl who attends a hotel with her boyfriend for dinner with some clients of his. At the end of the evening, she goes into the Ladies Cloakroom and finds a pair of strong minus glasses. She decides to take them and then gets emails sent to her over the next couple of days, warning her of the consequences if she decides to keep them. She does keep them and wears them constantly.

Any help with the title or location would be appreciated.

Julian 15 May 2013, 05:41

I'm getting a bit concerned about Bobby. No sign of his older site reviving, and nothing uploaded to the newer site since 10 April. Bobby, my friend, are you OK? (I'm going to post this message on Vision & Spex as well.)

Crystal Veil 06 May 2013, 04:23

latest post was by me

 06 May 2013, 04:22


glad to hear that the photo shoot with Emilia is to your liking. It was quite a productive shoot and the posting is a bit slower as I'm doing some editing of the portraits. Of the 180 portraits posted so far, 36-42 and 79-112 are with glasses above minus 10. The final part will be portraits in myodisc glasses. To be continued! I will send a new message on the "Seen on the web" thread when the full photo shoot is posted.

Puffin 05 May 2013, 14:40

Currently enjoying the "Emilia" shoot thus far, with intriguing glimpses of braces.

Crystal Veil 02 May 2013, 04:57


there is a fair chance that the Rob who wrote the story about the extremely shortsighted princess will write more stories about our theme on Eye Scene. He wrote the story after seeing a number of portraits from my photo shoot with Melissa, a gorgeous freelance model here in Holland. His idea was that I could capture the story in either a video or a series of photos. Nothing came out of it but we are now considering to do it the other way round: he may well be able to write a good story based upon a new photo shoot with a bit of a theme to it. A part of a recent photo shoot in Ireland may serve as vehicle. He is an excellent writer and I look forward to a future cooperation with him.

specs4ever 01 May 2013, 16:46

I am a little later than I wanted to be to post this month's story over on vision and spex. So, as a treat I jumped the queue a little and posted a story that I am very fond of instead of one that isn't the greatest. Hope you all enjoy it.

Julian 27 Apr 2013, 11:41

A fortnight on, it looks as if Bobby's older site has bitten the dust for good ::( Pity, but thanks for all that you have done and are doing to keep us entertained, Bobby.

Ellie 14 Apr 2013, 11:03

Thanks for updating your blog despite the website for stories not cooperating, Bobby. I'm sure it is much appreciated. I always enjoy the stories. Thanks also to Specs4ever who always contributes your wonderful stories filled with many diopters. I've been reading your stories for five or six years now.

And to Cactus Jack, I loved reading what you have written so far for The Strabismus Institute :) please keep writing. It's a different, refreshing perspective.

Finally, to Rob who contributed a story called A Young Woman Looks to Her Future with Thick Spectacles...I'm crossing my fingers for a sequel!! The princess mentioned that her sons would inherit the congenital myopia, and I would love to see you continue with that idea...if you want, of course. It was simply a suggestion :)

I'm so inspired by all these stories! Hopefully once I get some time I will contribute something as well :)

Bobby 09 Apr 2013, 21:32

I must admit I kind of expected that. The original website ( ) with the stories has a problem. I tried to solve it and screw it even more.

Look, I know everybody is waiting for some new stories! So I uploaded them here . All the three new stories. Enjoy them and I promise I wil repair the original website till the end of the week.

nickweymouth 09 Apr 2013, 07:11

dear mr moonshiner i know this is not onus ytopiicus but please let me me have my say ephc pete im so sorryt for the los sof your great ex leader i did not like her in life but will not follow the sheepand salg her of in death ayt least she never picked on the disablded

blessed be Nick

specs4ever 01 Apr 2013, 13:42

thanks for the kind words Nick. Glad that you enjoyed it.

nickweymouth 01 Apr 2013, 13:02

dear dave just read the sequal awsome didnt expect that at all well done mate as ussal your a true story telling master

Moonshiner 31 Mar 2013, 00:18

I Deleted several off topic posts on the Sightings thread. Many recent anonymous posts are from an IP address in Virginia, there have also been posts under other and multiple user names from this IP address. I will have to block this IP address if this continues.

specs4ever 26 Mar 2013, 09:30

Nicky, I will reveal the story behind the story after everyone gets to read it - maybe in a couple of weeks? Thanks for reading it, and commenting.

nickweymouth 26 Mar 2013, 09:10

a good strory dave i think the farther to hera hero was trying to induce myopia in daughter mate am i corect

specs4ever 25 Mar 2013, 23:34

I posted my monthly story over on vision-and-spex tonight.

For the readers who are not native English speakers this story does require quite a bit of "reading between the lines" to get the whole impact, so I hope you are able to enjoy it.

Julian 25 Mar 2013, 03:56

Seems like a good idea.

Astra 24 Mar 2013, 03:26

Can moderator remove Gus ' advertisement about a non-glasses or optical related website ?

Astra 24 Mar 2013, 03:24

Quote from sightings . Non glasses or optical-related link.

Gus 24 Mar 2013, 03:13

Olim 23 Mar 2013, 09:38

Thank you, Specs4ever, for your kind words. I have been entertained and moved by your stories for years.

Specs4ever 21 Mar 2013, 19:09

Hi Olim. I wrote to Bobby and asked him to let you know that I really enjoyed the story. I hoped that he would have done so by now, but if he hasn't I will tell you myself. I have read it a number of times now and I enjoy it a little more each time.

Olim 21 Mar 2013, 18:59

If anyone has the time, please let me know if you enjoyed the story "The Short-sighted Princess" that I wrote and Bobby Laurel placed on his website at the beginning of this month.

Lv2c4i 19 Mar 2013, 09:45

I downloaded RealPlayer and it seems to work ok (even on my Firefox browser--it asked about downloading Chrome). Thanks for the direction--and for the other ideas as well.

slb 17 Mar 2013, 03:31

I'm using "Easy YouTube Video Downloader 6.7" - a Firefox add-on, and have found it works very well from youtube, although lacking if that is not the original host website. Picasa can play back and screengrab from the videos once you have them.

Soundmanpt 17 Mar 2013, 00:07

Thanks guys, I will try some of these and see if they work.

Speximann 16 Mar 2013, 23:58

Youtube has a YTD Downloader that does a great job 'With Youtube Videos. Also if you use a Mac there's Snapz Pro which will capture anything on your screen.

Puffin 16 Mar 2013, 19:14

I have used Keepvid for youtube vids. I think also there's something in Firefox that you can use (never used it myself).

Galileo 15 Mar 2013, 19:57

You could try downloading Realplayer, that seems to be able to capture most videos including Youtube clips

Lv2c4i 15 Mar 2013, 07:14

A tech sort of question. How does one save a video from online onto your own computer? Specifically, looking at news report/reporter videos posted on television station websites. Or a YouTube video?(I'm using a fairly basic windows computer).

Thank you for any help or direction.

Bobby 01 Mar 2013, 11:34

Delete the cash of you browser and try it again. It should be OK now.

Asdoo 01 Mar 2013, 10:34


I can't read The Shortsighted Princess. The link says file instead of http.

Bobby 01 Mar 2013, 07:34

Story site updated with 2 new stories by Specs4ever: "An Urge for Myopia" and "The Mountains of Myopia" and a new story: "The short-sighted Princess from a new author, Olim.

specs4ever 27 Feb 2013, 08:44

posted a new story over on vison znd spex for anyone who wants to read it

Cactus Jack 11 Feb 2013, 15:23


I owe you an apology. It was Likelenses that wanted to add or subtract 180 degrees from the axis when changing from + cylinder to - cylinder. Adding or subtracting 180 degrees would not change the axis at all.


Melyssa 11 Feb 2013, 06:30

It's mighty dangerous on the sidewalks this morning from the freezing rain that fortunately was not on the roads or in the parking lot, but I made it into work, and while waiting for the Admin server to warm up so I could program my fabulous web apps, I looked up my RX on the previous posts.

I could not remember the axis number, but here is the official RX:

-9.00 +3.00 90 (add +2.50).

Maybe the optical place changes it to the -6.00/-3.00, because I never pay extra for prescriptions over + or - 8.00.

Asdoo 11 Feb 2013, 02:36

Cactus Jack

I understand how to convert plus cylinder to minus cylinder. Melyssa posted her complete prescription a few years ago. I remember the sphere and cylinder, but I don't remember the axis. I know that you have to add 90 to the axis if it is below 90 and subtract 90 if the axis is above 90.

Cactus Jack 10 Feb 2013, 23:24


Many, but not all Ophthalmologists write + cylinder and a few optometrists and opticians write + cylinder, but most don't. Lens makers always make glasses with - cylinder because they grind the cylinder correction into the back surface of the lens with rare exceptions.

The conversion procedure for changing a prescription from + cylinder to - cylinder is to:

1. Algebraically add the cylinder to the sphere. -9.00 +(+3.00) = -6.00

2. Change the sign on the cylinder. +3.00 becomes -3.00

3. Add or subtract 90 degrees to/from the axis so that it falls between 0 and 179 degrees (or 1 and 180 degrees). By tradition, the 0/180 axis is horizontal and the 90 degree axis is vertical. The degree numbers increase counter clockwise looking at the patient.

Last time I checked there are only 360 degrees in a circle and the 0/180 axis is the same horizontal orientation of the long axis as the cylinder and 90 and 270 would also be the same axis, but again by tradition axis only numbers between 0 and 179 should be used as the axis numbers, but I have seen prescriptions with the axis shown as 180 degrees, which is the same axis as 0.

Both you and Asdoo made mistakes in the conversion procedure.

BTW the above procedure also will convert - cylinder to + cylinder. Example: -6.00, -3.00 x 90 would convert to -6.00 + (-3.00) = -9.00 so the + cylinder Rx would be: -9.00, +3.00 x 0, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to do it.


Likelenses 10 Feb 2013, 21:12


I forgot to say that the power of the sphere never changes.only the axis of the cyl.

Likelenses 10 Feb 2013, 21:09


I believe that her glasses would be made up by the optician as -9.00 -3.00 CYL and the axis would be changed 180 degrees from how it was written as a plus cyl.

An astigmatism correction written by an ophthalmologist is always written as a plus cyl. and converted by the optician to a minus.

Asdoo 10 Feb 2013, 00:47


Her prescription is sph -9.00 cyl+3.00. If it was converted to minus cylinder it would be sph -6.00 cyl -3.00.

Likelenses 09 Feb 2013, 22:36


I had the very same thought.

However as I recall her prescription is -9.0 with some astigmatism, which make it all the better.

Revolver 09 Feb 2013, 08:20

Melyssa: have you seen those ginormous drop temples listed on the Glasses for Auction or Sale thread? The very thought of those with your -6.00 sph and -3.00 lenses in them, especially in CR-39, is too delicious to contemplate. IMHO those are the best ever listed on that thread and there have been some great ones.

bateau 07 Feb 2013, 15:03

If you want to save any pics on photobucket, the right mouse click only works on the lower half of any photo.

 05 Feb 2013, 18:21

if anyone was dumb enough to click on those links, then they deserve to be infected. it's not like the internet is a brand new toy, come on people. get an education.

Soundmanpt 03 Feb 2013, 12:27

Yes it got me as well. Now for some reason my email is screwed up. I can receive emails but I can't send anything for some reason.

Varifocals. 03 Feb 2013, 11:14

The Hi Virus.

Hello Val,#

Actually this virus seems to be very well spread as even the Australian transport web sites are putting out warnings about this.

specs4ever 03 Feb 2013, 10:49

I posted the short story over on vision-and-spex that I had originally planned to post for the February story today.


Val 31 Jan 2013, 00:18

My previous message it's for other people who got the same emails...

My computer is clean, I did not click the link.

Sorry, because I was not very clear in what I wanted to say.

Val 31 Jan 2013, 00:16

This morning i've received some emails, from different users of the "glassesovercontacts" forum on yahoo.

The subject was very simple, entitled "Hi", and inside was a link.


If you already clicked the link, your computer is probably infected already. You have to use some antivirus software to remove the virus.

You can use free software or paid software, but I recommend Malwarebytes or Spybot -

Be careful

I posted the same message on V&S...

specs4ever 30 Jan 2013, 12:50

posted a new short story over on vision-and-spexs for anyone who is interested

pete 28 Jan 2013, 12:18

Moonshiner: Thanks

Moonshiner 28 Jan 2013, 01:32

Pseldonymov, Try a test post with one word, like "test". There are a few words used by spammers and a few url's blocked by request from when Wurm had the site.

Moonshiner 28 Jan 2013, 01:25

Deleted some off topic post, some inflammatory. Please keep it on topic.

Julian 24 Jan 2013, 07:57

Sorry Astra, my third post on this thread in 24 hours :(

S4E, I've now read your new stories, and they are great. I envy your inventiveness!

Julian 24 Jan 2013, 01:48

Thanks S4E. They're there now, but I couldn't find them yesterday!

Specs4ever 23 Jan 2013, 23:05

They are on Bobby's old site Julian. I was able to go on and find them right away.

Now I remember one of the reasons I quit posting here. It wasn't just the trolls that bothered me - it was that I was posting way too much. Note to self - post less, and keep them short.

Julian 22 Jan 2013, 10:19

Bobby: I'm looking forward to reading the new stories; but where are they?

Bobby 22 Jan 2013, 03:39

I have updated the stories website with 3 three new stories about women with glasses. Enjoy. http//

Carrie 21 Jan 2013, 15:09

Pseldonymov - It's happened to me before. Maybe the post was too long or there was a word or punctuation mark that caused the error. Maybe the site owner could look into it sometime?

Pseldonymov 21 Jan 2013, 13:07

I still cannot understand why this system blames that last link?

Soundmanpt 21 Jan 2013, 00:05


As you can see I just tried it and it seems to work now.

Pseldonymov 20 Jan 2013, 20:22

When I try to post there I get the message:


You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/bbs.cgi on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

What can it be?

Pseldonymov 20 Jan 2013, 09:41

What happened with this web site? I cannot post in News Personalities. Is that gleech?

Moonshiner 05 Jan 2013, 22:51


I've deleted the post and removed the reference to it in the following post. Let me know if you would like anything else edited

Carrie 04 Jan 2013, 13:58

Hope everyone had a good Christmas and New Year.

Had some very good news. The extension currently being built on my parents house is going to be a flat for me and Gemma! We will still have to pay rent and bills etc but we don't need to pay a deposit. We couldn't quite afford the deposit on the places we've looked at. We're so pleased, happy and excited to get our own place and have some privacy. Got to wait a few more months before it's finished. Once we move in together I won't be able to go on Eyescene as much as Gemma doesn't know about it or my glasses fetish and I think it would be best to keep it that way. We do have our own role playing games that involve glasses when we're having some bedroom fun!

Cactus Jack 04 Jan 2013, 05:25


In haste, I wrote and posted a reply to Snowman26 at 03 Jan 2013, 22:53 on the Hyperopia and Presbyopia Progression thread. It was written after a long and tiring day and it is not my best work. It is poorly written, poorly punctuated, and therefore, not clear.

Snowman26 seemed to be as confused and frustrated as any recently diagnosed hyperope as I have seen on ES in a long time. I wanted to try to help him understand that what has and is happening to him, has happened to thousands if not millions of others before. Of all the visual circumstances we discuss on ES, Hyperopia and Presbyopia, their causes, and how they interact, are probably the most complex and difficult to explain that we have.

I believe I can do better. Over the weekend, I would like to re-write my reply to Snowman26's question and ask that you either replace the above referenced post with it or delete the original post and post the re-written reply in a new time slot in a sequence that makes sense.


Sherry 09 Oct 2012, 16:39

Great. Now I am the one being attacked. I guess that's what I get for sticking my neck out and contributing my thoughts. Just because I haven't posted in a seriously long time doesn't mean I haven't been here just like everyone else. But I'm not going to take your bait and flame back.

I defend everyone to have a right to say what they want, Mr. "RXologist" even if I don't agree with their opinion. Like others have said, just skip the posts you don't like or agree with. What is so wrong with that?

Puffin 09 Oct 2012, 15:57

I doubt they would know what "nice" is

Andrew 09 Oct 2012, 15:11

Is there a website for Internet trolls where I can go into their forum and/or chat room and post something nice?

Julian 09 Oct 2012, 08:31

No, it doesn't.

Puffin 09 Oct 2012, 07:35

the "See all posts" on "Seen on the web" doesn't work

RXologist 09 Oct 2012, 06:55

As a preliminary preventive measure, I would recommend to either make the username field mandatory, or use Wikipedia's method: if someone posts anonymously - show their IP address instead.

Galileo 09 Oct 2012, 05:30

I suspect Moonshiner has the technology to identify multiple personalities posting from the same source and is even to block a source. And whilst we can forever debate the pros and cons of freedom of speech if the moderator can identify the king troll and block access that might be an acceptable solution....

RXologist 09 Oct 2012, 02:33

Sherry, as Owlish says, we don't remember you ever contributing anything to this site.

And yet you criticize the use of vernacular English in it, as well as the fetishistic attitude towards glasses wearing persons. It doesn't seem you've grasped exactly what this site is about, nor the nature of internet conversations (every forum has its own special lingo, it's what makes it intimate). Or, perhaps, you're simply trying to be negative.

I'd recommend you try and be more positive and accepting, but mainly, be receptive to what this site is about and to its attitudes, if these don't suite you, surely you can always find another that does.

No one here wants to see posts, like yours, that criticise our English or our attitudes, especially not on the specialized threads meant for posting links, this is a voluntary place, no one is forcing you to be here and no one appointed you to "fix" it.

Written with respect and in the hope of seeing great contributions from you in the future.

Soundmanpt 08 Oct 2012, 21:19


I am only responding to you because you have not been profane and you at least seem to have a name. The biggest problem I have is that it makes no sense for someone to come into a forum with the only purpose of being arguemental and insulting. Let me ask you something, if you lets say belonged to a chat room about dresses and you and many others posted various pictures of all styles of dresses and out of nowhere a certain "no name" person suddenly came around and started insulting the taste of you and others about the dresses and of course they never bothered EVER putting anything in would you not quickly see that they were only there to create trouble for everyone? Don't tell me you wouldn't be pissed. Again just be honest with us it's glasses but maybe for you it is something else. If the thing you had an interest in was constantly being attacked would you like it. So yes they have a right to be here, but a better question is why are they here?

Owlish 08 Oct 2012, 20:32

Sherry; to my knowledge you are not one of our "longtime users with known names"... have you ever contributed so much as a link? ... and yet, oddly, you have taken it upon yourself to defend such anonymous garbage as this:

" 08 Oct 2012, 16:15

olek please stop posting ugly women"

It's becoming more obvious, I think, that you and the anons are one and the same troll.

Sherry 08 Oct 2012, 16:04

RXologist, I would have to say think again. From my own viewpoint, I think that some of the strongest negativity seems to have come from longtime users with known names attacking the so called anonymous posts.

Remember flame wars can't happen unless there are two sides fighting. And I have seen some vicious attacks from people I thought I respected here.

I know this is not sounding great, but I am being open about my comments. I believe that is what you want.

RXologist 07 Oct 2012, 15:24

The main problem with the anonymous remarks, especially those negative ones which are very arrogant, is that it's easy to mistake them as expressing the common view of Eyescene users.

Unfortunately, some users get intimidated when they read them, much more than they would from reading negative remarks from a known user (who almost never post such remarks anyway).

This is probably just one rather cowardly and troubled individual (most remarks are exactly the same in tone and grammar), but IMO he or she makes a lot of damage.

benn 06 Oct 2012, 16:26

I have been here since the start and while I don't post often, this the best site on the web.

What is the issue of having "pretend" comments. I just don't read some but I still get a lot of information from the contributors.

No matter what this is the best.

Soundmanpt 06 Oct 2012, 11:35

Well I certainly would have no problem with that concept. But as you know it won't stop someone from making comments that are unwanted. It will just mean they will have to use there own name or title. At least it should get rid of the "no names"

I still like and use "visionandspex" but like you say sometimes days go by without any comments.

Melyssa 06 Oct 2012, 11:30

I agree with RXologist 200%. As a computer programmer, I know about making people put in certain information to access more than just the front page of a website application. Also, "" requires a user ID and password, which is probably why there has been far less activity there than at Eyescene. Remember, Lenschat was once a "Come one, come all, no ID required" site.

RXologist 06 Oct 2012, 10:27

I've been pondering this for a while: I think it is time to introduce usernames and require users to login to Eyescene - to ensure normal standards of conversation (non users would only be able to read the threads, not post anything).

The net is constantly evolving, we can't keep a stasis here, especially as it seems that a new generation and new kind of users have joined this forum. Most seasoned respected users keep a single username anyway.

The main aim would be to prevent these aggressive belligerent anonymous postings that have plagued this forum lately and intimidate potential posters.It might be just one rogue user, be he/she makes enough damage to justify some preventive measures (and deleting the posts afterwards solves nothing).

This is how I feel, hopefully this won't be a difficult change to implement. Please share your thoughts.

Sherry 02 Oct 2012, 06:38

I have to agree that the same sex relationship is really being played up far too much, and that is probably why it is starting to appear ficitious. This site is supposed to be about glasses, not about whom you sleep with. I don't talk about my lovers here either.

But you must agree that while it is easy to skip over Carrie's posts if you don't like them, it's just as easy to skip over the posts that criticize them too. Both sides deserve an equal voice in this debate. You say you should not be censored, but I also say neither should they. Everyone has a right to say as they feel about this, yet unfortunately their side is the only one that keeps being deleted.

Carrie 29 Sep 2012, 09:28

Thank you It Needs to be Said

Puffin - I realise I do go on a bit, but as I said to Soundmanpt I'm just being me - chatty! I will try to stick to the subject more. It's just that I am very proud and excited to be in a same-sex relationship! Thank you for being more tactful than some others.

It Needs to be Said 28 Sep 2012, 18:45

I really don't get it. When you see the name "Carrie" or any other person that you deem unworthy to be in here can't you just skip over it and go to the next comment? This constant bickering is becoming much more of a problem than anything Carrie has to say. Moonshiner has stated his position on this matter and since he was the only one to come forward a year ago when no one else wanted the job of being the in charge I really think it unwise to contridict his decision.

Not to mention after reading her comment again she clearly is responding to a question asked of her by Soundmanpt and it is in fact concerning glasses as I read it.

Let's stop being so self rightous and worry about adding things of value to this site instead of worrying about someone that it seems you have an ax to grind with. In other words enough is enough!

Puffin 28 Sep 2012, 18:20


I really don't want to be disagreeable but perhaps your postings could perhaps be a bit more about glasses and a little less about girlfriends - it is about finding the right balance that keeps things pleasant here, most of the time.

I know there are things that people don't want to hear. Sometimes it is right to say them, sometimes not. A little restraint and circumspection is helpful to help keep things going in a agreeable fashion... I hope you understand.

Carrie 28 Sep 2012, 15:56

I try not to let verbal abuse get to me. If it does get to me I just don't let the abuser see it does. The comments on this site were pretty tame really. I've heard worse. Luckily nothing physical.

I haven't seen my favourite customer since then :( Yes, she was on her own that time. I think she uses a big supermarket for most of her shopping. I know what she means about forgetting she was wearing glasses. I sometimes get the same thing happen with my rimless glasses! I just don't notice the edge of the lenses like I notice the dark rims of my plastic frames.

Moonshiner 28 Sep 2012, 14:19

I accidentally deleted the older posts in the sightings thread along with some intentionally deleted posts. They are now restored from a back up file.

Revolver 28 Sep 2012, 12:42

Soundman is right, he usually doesn't delete things wholesale. Plus, we were just getting back to sightings about glasses which is what that thread is all about. Guess we'll have to wait and see what Moonshiner says.

Soundmanpt 28 Sep 2012, 11:35

Well maybe but he normally just deletes the crazy stuff and i am sure there was many other comments that were not slander etc.

There is more than a month gone.

Glasses Lover 28 Sep 2012, 11:21

Soundmanpt, Revolver,

I've just noticed the same thing. Maybe Moonshiner is sick of the bullshit that has been going on lately and has decided to delete it. Just a thought. But, hey, I could be wrong.

Soundmanpt 28 Sep 2012, 11:06

Yes that is the same as I see as well. Somehow it must have got deleted.

Revolver 28 Sep 2012, 10:48

Is anyone else having problems with the Sightings thread? The most current posting is Aug.26th, and there have been many since then, I posted one yesterday that was up and according to the Thread Index, Puffin posted one today but again, nothing newer than Aug.26th. ???

Soundmanpt 27 Sep 2012, 18:22


I only feel partly to blame as many times you were only responding to questions and comments that I made. But is shows your a strong woman that you refuse to be bullied. Just too bad that anyone has to put up with verbal abuse. At least you found that you have a good number of us that support you and hope you continue to comment. I am sure if "Moonshiner" had a a problem with your posts it would have been deleted.

Anyway this is glasses related, has your friendly customer been in recently? I know you said she was in not too long ago and was wearing her glasses and commented about forgetting she was wearing them when she went to scratch something around her eye and bumped her glasses. I assume she was in without her bf?

Carrie 27 Sep 2012, 17:55

I registered there ages ago. I am just going to let the haters have their say and get bored with moaning. I'm not going to rise to their comments or answer back as it will only make it worse - I don't want it getting any more personal than it already has been! I was only being chatty. Just being me!

Soundmanpt 27 Sep 2012, 17:28

Carrie don't forget if you want maybe some of our discussions that some people seem to detest could be put up over on "vision and spex" Also I think since you have to register it may cut down on so many "no names"

Carrie 27 Sep 2012, 17:14

Soundmanpt - Thank you. It does actually make sense thinking about it.

Soundmanpt 26 Sep 2012, 19:12


It still won't make much sense but it stands for "recipe" But the same "rx is wused when talking about medicine which is often times mixed and requires a "recipe' And since glasses are a form of medicine for the eyes and making up a prescription for the lenses I assume is why it is also called "rx"

Carrie 26 Sep 2012, 18:33

I have noticed a lot of people put "RX" instead of "Prescription". What does RX stand for?

NICKWEYOUTH 25 Sep 2012, 12:35

not sure were to post this a old joke from ago

what does eyesight have in common with music

C# OR B b

Soundmanpt 12 Sep 2012, 18:16

Lens chat seems fine now.

IS LENS CHAT DEAD? 12 Sep 2012, 15:26

Does anyone know what has happened to Lens Chat?

meditacin 27 Aug 2012, 02:47

test 1 2 3 meditacin

Bobby 08 Aug 2012, 19:24

I have made an update of the story site. There are two new stories by Specs4ever that have not been published here, A new story from a new author, and some stories taken from here. So go to

I started working on a new website, as the current one is running out of space and becomes rather difficult to maintain, to see the new site being born, tested, and adjusted, go to: Don't forget to tell me what you like and dislike about the new site. (

Moonshiner 24 Jul 2012, 22:52

You can also click the "post index" at the top of the page to see the time and date of all posts from the last 14 days.

Moonshiner 24 Jul 2012, 22:49

I have not deleted any posts recently. The "Threads by Most Recent Post" page will often appear to have skipped days due to the topic being moved to the top of the list with each new post within it.

Soundmanpt 24 Jul 2012, 11:25

Just curious, but what happened to the posts from July 23rd? I have seen this happen other times as well where a full day or more may just disappear.

midnight 01 Jul 2012, 13:19

@ carrie this world and humanity in general is not intelligent enough to think for themselves so they follow ideas and lifestyles that are considered to be by the masses normal and anything outside that is a disgrace because they are to stupid to know or learn about anything other than the ideals that cater to there lifestyle no one can be an individual or think for themselves and survive so people have to pretend and are made to fear for there life if there different i think its beautiful that you two have each other to find the person or thing you want to be doing or be with 40 years from now is next to god thats why alot of us are so miserabe is because were so bent on following whats normal or what society says is normal that we deny ourselves our true nature so good for you people should be looking up to you not down on you me presonally i think all the stupid cardboard cookie cutter personalities out there who think there superior should be erased from this earth

Soundmanpt 01 Jul 2012, 11:17

Just a question! how come so many of the posts from recent days have been removed? I understand when posts are off topic or slander is being used etc. But most of the past posts did not contain anything like that.

nickweymouth 19 Jun 2012, 06:57

curt lay nicly i am dyslekik so if it is spelt wrongly



your now young Carrie reading experience reminded me of one sunday morning i was in a cafee in dorchester with late wife

whwhen in o was registerd blind there we were with her guide dog when in came a group of ladies no disrespect carrie as a bunch of ladies uniformly 5ft thhigh and 5 ft wide shaved heads you all get t he picture

i thought eh up were in trouble but we gave these ladies a chance live and let live i am so glad we did they turned out to be very nice people

Curt 18 Jun 2012, 20:19

Can we PLEASE keep the discussion about feedback?!?!

Carrie 18 Jun 2012, 18:10

Thanks for the support everyone. Much appreciated. Yes, it did happen in the UK. I had a little cry myself when my girlfriend was having a snooze yesterday afternoon so she didn't see me and get even more upset. I was upset by the incident but I was more upset by seeing my girlfriend so scared and crying so much she couldn't speak. Thankfully 99.9% of the time we are accepted for who we are and even if people don't approve of same sex relationships they keep their feelings to themselves. We occasionally get funny looks and muttered comments but we ignore them. We also get people saying things like "Oh, you're young. It's just a phase you'll grow out of." For some young people it may well be a "phase", but it's not a phase for us. My girlfriend has never fancied boys. When she was about 11 or 12 she tried to make herself fancy them to be like other girls but it didn't work. I still fancy boys/men but I fancy girls/women too (I'd say 60-40 preference for women to men). I'm not experimenting. I'm not confused. We love each other deeply as well as being sexually attracted to each other. I've felt better inside ever since I stopped denying to myself that I had sexual feelings for women. That then led to me realising I had a thing for women wearing glasses. My girlfriend does not know about this, though. Maybe I will tell her one day. Not just yet. Oh yeah, another very annoying comment is "Which one of you is the man in the relationship?" For f***s sake we fancy each other because we are both very feminine girls. Neither of us is butch or looks butch. If I wanted someone butch I'd have stayed with my boyfriend! My girlfriend is more emotional than me but other than that we're as girly as each other. Not a stereotype lesbian couple.

Crystal Veil 17 Jun 2012, 17:49


this could have happened to anyone who looks different from the (well below) average. It's a pity that not the bonobos but the chimps are closest to us. Aggression instead of the "love and peace bit". Civilisation is but a thin layer of varnish.

Soundmanpt 17 Jun 2012, 17:23


I also think sometimes the best response is no response. That is what I am sure they were trying to lure you into was some kind of comment back. The way you reacted in my mind was perfect. They don't know how much it upset you and your gf and were probably disappointed that they failed to provoke you.

They only showed how ignorant they are and maybe at least one of them may have even thought so as well.

lentifan 17 Jun 2012, 13:35

You were wise, Carrie, not to answer back. I can imagine how frightening this must have felt, but my instinct is that a mixed group would have been unlikely to physically attack two ladies.

I do think you should not take it personally. You could just as easily have been picked on for the colour of your skin, or for being fat or thin, or for some other distinguishing feature. They're not worth getting upset about.

Can I ask where this took place?

Octopuss 17 Jun 2012, 06:09


These people are morons, Was it in the UK?

Carrie 17 Jun 2012, 06:01

Sorry this isn't really glasses related but more of a rant!

I was out with my girlfriend last night planning to go for a pizza and meet friends in a pub later. It wasn't late, probably 8ish. A group of about 6 men and women probably only a few years older than us came towards us. We tried to walk around them but the deliberatley got in our way. I felt my girlfriend squeeze my hand in a slightly nervous way. The group didn't physically touch us but just got very close and came out with various insults and offensive comments about lesbians, us wearing glasses and even the clothes we were wearing. Very intimidating and frightening. I was tempted to answer back but thought better of it in case it made things worse. They then just walked off laughing. By this time my girlfriend had nearly crushed my hand with hers. I realised she had tears in her eyes so I hugged her and she began to cry. The whole encounter brought back horrible memories for her from school when she had been teased a lot for being gay and had actually been beaten up a few times too. I didn't know her very well at the time and didn't even know that anyone at school had been beaten up for being gay!

We decided that we wouldn't stay out and went back to her house. I phoned the friends we were going to meet up with and told them what happened and that we wouldn't be meeting up with them. A short time later they turned up with some wine and a couple of pizzas to try and cheer us up. It was a really nice gesture and did cheer us both up but in the back of my mind I couldn't help thinking how the incident in town could have easily turned nasty. I was scared but my poor girlfriend was absolutely terrified.

My girlfriend didn't sleep at all last night and I probably only slept for a couple of hours in total.

I just can't believe that even in the 21st century same sex couples are still getting abuse! We're not hurting anyone. We're just 2 people who love each other, just like any other couple. We're not going round trying to turn straight people gay! My girlfriend didn't turn me gay, she just made me realise I am attracted to women and I should stop telling myself I'm not. School kids can be very nasty to each other especially if they've been brainwashed by their parents into hating gay people. Even though it was over 5 years since my girlfriend was beten up at school she won't tell me or anyone else who did it as she is still scared of them (and scared of what I might do to them!).

It is such a shame that f***wits like the ones we were unfortunate enough to meet are still around. They probably won't even remember doing it but me and my girlfriend will remember it for a long time. Some people might say we shouldn't take it personally. Well we do take it personally and that verbal attack on us was personal. Despite that we are not going to stop going out in public or showing affection to each other in public the way that straight couples do.

Sorry this went on for so long but I needed to say it in writing.

Revolver 12 Jun 2012, 11:13


Glad to hear you liked the story, and happy to see you are back on ES, had invited your comments in an earlier post, then found out you couldn't get in to ES.

No, there was no double entendre in "right up your alley" and in fact, had to read your post twice until I figured out what you were talking about and the "I got it" and the light bulb came on over my head. After further thought, "Right Up My Alley" would be a good title for another story, will have to marinade on it a little.

That story was written long before you got your own glasses and started posting on ES, just took awhile to get it posted on Bobby's site. The idea for it started when I was pondering whether or not anyone ever had some nearly overwhelming, uh, stimulation, during the exam, fitting, and first time wearing process and just fantasized from there. From your comments I surmise it could've happened. I may write a sequel.

Dieter, thanks for posting the new story on the other site. I monitor that site but don't post due to some technical problems so sent it to Dieter to post and he did it. The premise is based on an epidemic that occurred at a major university in the city where I lived years ago but the rest is pure fantasy....and wishful thinking. I did own a large boat at one time but it sure wasn't a Burger 54, more like a Chris Craft 32.

Dieter 11 Jun 2012, 19:38

I just posted a new story for Revolver on vision-and-spex. It's a good one. Check it out!

Carrie 11 Jun 2012, 12:57


I really enjoyed To LUG, or Not To LUG. Finally a story for girls who like girls! When Aggy and Ricky got "intimate" it reminded me of my first lesbian experience (other than kissing)with my gorgeous girlfriend.

I don't know if you meant it as an innuendo but I did find it funny that you said in your earlier post on this site the story was "right up my alley"! Given the content of your story and my sexual persuasion, you couldn't have put it better (if you know what I mean)! :)

 10 Jun 2012, 05:39

i am curious why my posting was deleted, and would like further explanation how is it a personal attack to suggest that someone who's postings are rather controversial, get their own forum like Julian's Jawings? in my opinion, that protects Alian HGM from future harassment by others and even provides him a personal platform dedicated his products.

i meant the suggestion in the kindest terms completely and sincerely wonder how on earth is that considered a personal attack.

 09 Jun 2012, 18:59

Post deleted - personal attack

Dieter 07 Jun 2012, 19:34

Gracias, mi amigo.

Revolver 07 Jun 2012, 09:58

And extremely well done, as usual. You are gifted, keep 'em coming! By that, I mean keep the stories coming. Or to phrase it differently so there's no double entendre, keep on writing.

Dieter 06 Jun 2012, 22:00

Hi all, I just posted a new story on vision-and specs. Enjoy!

nickweymouth 03 Jun 2012, 03:33

sorry congratulation on your diamond jubilee

nickweymouth 03 Jun 2012, 03:33

may one through this medium congratulate her majesty queen elizabeth the second as britians queen and as the gead of the comonwealth congratulations marm

Revolver 23 May 2012, 10:20

Sorry I didn't post this earlier, but have been busy. Just want to thanks Bobby, Specs4, and Dieter for the great stories now posted on Bobby's site and a real big thanks to Bobby for maintaining that site. Feel I can speak for everyone here in saying it's a very respected, very well done site and really is enjoyable to all of us. Imagine it's no small task to keep up and running and update, let's all thank him.

Also, to all 3 of you, for the positive feedback on To LUG or Not To LUG. Carrie, if you haven't read that one it would seem to be right up your alley. And, constructive criticism from your point of view would be appreciated.

 14 May 2012, 21:46

Not sure where to post this but Carrie is unable to get into this site. If anyone knows how to help her re-enter please contact her over on "" Go to the "sightings" section and she is in the latest sightings area.

I told her I would post his message for her. Thanks

Emily 09 May 2012, 08:26

Lenschat is down. I'm trying to get in touch with the owner to alert him and find out what the problem is. I'll post updates as I have thrm.

JJ 05 May 2012, 18:05

Regarding reliability - you might want to seriously an ISP that costs more than $1 per month eBay-found hosting service. you tend to get what you pay for in the ISP business, and if you think what you just saw was bad, well... Just sayin'

Soundmanpt 04 May 2012, 00:34


Thanks. No problem I undertand, but I was just curious what happened but it makes sense since everything went down.

Moonshiner 03 May 2012, 16:42


There are post from the 2nd in the post index. None to this thread though. The site was down part of that day, I have not deleted any posts lately.

Soundmanpt 03 May 2012, 09:48

Just curious, but what happened to the comments from May 2 2012? It just jumps from the 1st to the 3 rd.

Moonshiner 01 May 2012, 23:47


I found hosting on ebay for under $1 a month so Im not worried about the cost. Thanks for the offer though. It was annoying to have to pay every month so I asked and they now invoice every two years. I had paid about the same for two years at the previous host (in New Jersey) which crashed and went down for about a week leading me to this host (in Pennsylvania though the IP address tracks to a server in Texas).

The contact email I used for this host also stopped working reliably in the last few days causing my hosting invoice delivery to fail. It was through an isp we had can canceled service with over a year ago due to a move. I kept using it as long as it worked since we will be moving back and will be reconnecting with them.

Soundmanpt 01 May 2012, 18:53


Great to hear. may I ask what it cost to host this site for the 2 years? Maybe we could contribute to you for that at least.

Moonshiner 01 May 2012, 16:19

Site host is now paid for two years. Sorry for any inconvenience.

ehpc 26 Apr 2012, 18:47

You are great Carrie :) I love your posts. You have good taste in GWGs :) Pete

Carrie 26 Apr 2012, 17:34

Yay, Im back! I didn't do anything to my computer but suddenly I can get back on this site. Bit of a mystery why I couldn't access it from my computer for a while but I don't care, I can now!

ehpc 24 Apr 2012, 18:46

Quite so.

nickweymouth 24 Apr 2012, 05:21

yes but pete it was st georges day not st andrews day

Astra 23 Apr 2012, 12:58

Pete is correct.

Most come here to post or retrieve a link .

I do the same. For me this is good enough .

ehpc 23 Apr 2012, 12:07

Not all 'limeys' are English of course.

pete 23 Apr 2012, 10:37


Sadly, there is currently little feeling of community here. That has not always been the case. Our group, too, has become somewhat fractured now that we have a choice of 2 sites. V&S is a far superior type to engage in dialog but it doesn't seem to happen though a few individuals, one in particular, have really made the effort.

Why? This is primarily a fetish site. Though there are exceptions and exceptional individuals, mostly one comes privately to post or retrieve a link; share a sighting etc . . or more prevalent in recent years to spew a foul mouthed reaction. There is no consequence to acting mean or careless in a virtual environment.

True, if the boat isn't steered it'll end up on the bottom though I wouldn't assume that is the case right now.

pver_16s_only_please 23 Apr 2012, 03:56

It is not only pictures of sexual acts performed by minors or perpetrated against them that it is morally wrong. It is also the potential gratification obtained by showing (and viewing) images of minors wearing objects (glasses) that sexually turn on many visitors to this website. It is one thing to accept that as part of our sexual make-up and which we regard as broadly acceptable among tolerant adults. It is another to bring children into it.

I still do not understand why there appears to be a silence on this issue among so many users of this site, or why we - as a collective of visitors - don't actually have a poll to set some ground rules. I'm afraid Moonshiner does himself no favours by refusing to engage with this issue.

nickweymouth 23 Apr 2012, 03:41

as a limey may one wish every one a happy st georges day

a turkish dude who killded a drgon and never set foot in england

Not-So-Concerned 21 Apr 2012, 13:21

Alana Joanne

I think the way you have to look at it is if you had a daughter and she was say 14 and she wore glasses and her pictures were to pop up on this site would you be happy about it? Even though as you say the pictures are in good taste comments being made about her rx and some even guessing what it might be etc may well be uncomfortable to you as well as her.

Something I have found is that if you go to a photostream of someone many times you will come across children in there wearing glasses. So I don't think you can ever ban it completely.

Alana Joanne 21 Apr 2012, 13:02

I do not see why pictures of children with glasses should be blocked? Certainly there cannot be anything sexually involved on this site? Children with glasses are of interest in that they have visual problems.

Carrie 21 Apr 2012, 08:50

I am posting this from my girlfriend's house. I'm just using her computer while she's gone to the loo! She doesn't know about this website and so i will have to delete my browsing history before she comes back!

I still can't get on this website at home but I don't know why. It makes no difference if I use the link from the old Eyescene or if I type the web address in I still can't get on. It's like the site has been shut down but obviously it hasn't. Can anyone help me and tell me what I can do to get it to work again? I can get on the Vision & Spex site ok.

Thanks in advance.

over_16s_only_please 20 Apr 2012, 08:48

Julian, I don't think anyone is complaining about Brian using a nickname. Quite the opposite. Brian told us that he was using his real name on this site. Someone queried that, largely because few people have numerals for a surname, generally.

 19 Apr 2012, 15:48

please do Bryan. no one will shed a tear.

Bryan_292 19 Apr 2012, 13:08

Ho hum- boring and stupid. No reason to keep hanging around here.

Julian 19 Apr 2012, 11:47

I don't know why an anonymous poster should complain about Bryan_292's nickname - surely we all use nicknames. Puffin; Filthy McNasty; Moonshiner; Wurm; Tinyeyes; Julian; we've all been posting to ES under these names, some for as long as fifteen years, but I don't think most of us are known to our offline friends by these names.

Puffin 18 Apr 2012, 18:11

mmm, it is not just a case of what the site owner deems fit to allow or disallow, it also has to be taken into account what governments consider appropriate material, for whatever seemingly good or bad reasons. If it really were just the former, posters of inappropriate material might just get away with being banned from the site. Governments might impose harsher punishments. Thus I think this is a valid concern.

Soundmanpt 18 Apr 2012, 13:12

Okay this nonsense has gone on now for several days. Enough is enough. This site belongs to Moonshiner as no one else wanted to step up and take over when it was shutting down I think we all need to be happy we still have this forum. It is his and only his decision as to what is allowed and what isn't allowed. If anyone doesn't like it then they should consider finding another site that will be more to there liking.

Just for the record I am not in favor of having children's pictures posted on here, but I don't think much about it as I just click off of it and go to something else. If you sit and dwell on the picture then your in the wrong and don't make so much out of it.

But I urge everyone to end this now.

 18 Apr 2012, 12:42

i love how bryan claims to be posting with his real name and then posts as bryan 292. i never saw the surname 292 in my whole life, he is definitely unique.

Byan the Baby 18 Apr 2012, 12:00

Bryan why do you participate in a discussion you find silly. Are you just trying to bully everyone into your way of thinking? Looks lik it. Take your own advice and leave, ok?

Bryan_292 18 Apr 2012, 00:08

and for you annonymous postes who are complaining, the last post was from me. I don't know why it didn't show up, but in case it repeats and doesn't give my nic, it is Bryan_292. Unlike some of you, while I haven't posted much over the past 10 years or so, I do post under my own name rather than annonymous.

 18 Apr 2012, 00:03

Sorry to disappoint you drama queens, but I haven't even bothered to look at the picture in question. I am finding that this discussion is silly and unproductive and the ones complaining don't have any more standing here than I do anyway. I repeat - if you don't like how the site owner is handling the site then go away please

over-16s-only-please 17 Apr 2012, 17:13

I resent being described as a "policeman" of Eyescene. I am someone who has visited this site and its predecessors for more than 10 years. I have as much of a stake, as a visitor, as anyone else in what should appear. To either deny us a voice in this debate or indeed, in what actually appears on the site is wrong. yes, someone has taken over Wurm's old site and I'm grateful for that and the service Moonshiner is providing. But to refuse to listen to the opinions of those who actually come here is a mistake. At the very least, Moonshiner should hold a poll to see what the majority of users think.

still 17 Apr 2012, 15:31

Naw, I don't think wanting this honourable site not to publish child pictures is a Police thing. Bryan may not have been here long enough to know, but I don't think most of us swing that way. And anyway, expressing an opinion opposite to Bryan's should not be grounds for being asked to go away.

 17 Apr 2012, 14:41

OMG stop your whining, Bryan. Now you want it your way? Well if you want to support children's pictures then you have issues I can't deal with here, but the others apparently want these pics off the site, read for yourself. You are in a very small minority who loves these pics, Bryan. Very small. If you know what I mean.

Bryan_292 16 Apr 2012, 22:56

Oh my gosh, the eyescene policeman is at it again. Concerned, if you are so concerned why do you bother coming here. I don't want you around with your "Do what I Say or else" attitude

Concern about Future Eyescene 16 Apr 2012, 18:07

The posting with the 15 year old remains on this site regardless of all the complaints below. (Olek 01 Apr 2012, 22:44)

I implore you to reconsider your stance on allowing such pictures and others seems to wholeheartedly agree.

over-16s-only-please 12 Apr 2012, 15:27

By "generally harmless fetish" I meant that I am someone who finds women wearing spectacles highly attractive. My wife knows of my fetish. She does not share it and does not wear glasses herself. But she does not resent or criticise me for it. She accepts it as part of my sexual make-up - as are other interests we share but which I do not wish to discuss as they are private to the two of us.

It is in such a context that I can understand people posting pictures of attractive adult women wearing glasses on this site, even of people who are not aware this has happened. If they were to complain I would immediately wish those pics to be removed and an apology given. Yes, it's a poor moral compromise, but life is full of such compromises

But I think posting pictures of minors wearing glasses goes beyond this "generally harmless fetish" and into something more extreme and - therefore - potentially exploitative and creepy. I hope this makes my position clearer.

Rayray 12 Apr 2012, 11:41

Just as a general comment in response to the anonymous poster - there is no rule or law which prohibits people from finding other adult people attractive (sexually or aesthetically) for WHATEVER reason. Activity only requires consent where some sort of contact occurs. You dont get to decide why other people might fancy you in short and if you dont like the idea that they might - dont post your pictures on the internet (though equally you would have to avoid going into public places as people might find you attractive there too).

Non fetishist  11 Apr 2012, 21:57

I'm a fifteen year old girl who enjoys reading posts here. I remember being interested in eyes and glasses in kindergarten. I enjoy "seen on the web" because I enjoy estimating their rx and seeing what frames people pick. I understand that a lot of people who post here have a fetish. I'm just very interested in the non-sexual aspects.

Crystal Veil 11 Apr 2012, 17:38

Gan Aimh (Irish for anonymous),

you definitely have a point there. In retrospect, my reaction was based on the fact that I never posted anything "second hand", so to speak. Everything I am posting on my weblog is new material, with explicit consent by the models who pose for me. I tell the models that their pictures will be posted on my weblog, in other words, they are presented to the world pretty much the same way the French government released the patent to Daguerrotype photography to the world back in 1839. All I am asking is that people wishing to use pictures from my work is a reference to the original source, in other words, not pretending it was their own work. I am grateful to Eye Scene members who informed me that pictures were used without any reference and in most cases, the problem was solved without any problem. I am aware that many links posted here on the "Seen on the web" link are second hand. Some links are really beautiful but I leave it to the ethics of those who post them and I hope that they will follow the same code that I follow with my models. Perhaps naive but so be it.

 11 Apr 2012, 17:11

Au contraire, Crystal Veil, it could be shown that a number of people have gotten very upset through this forum but the term "hurt" is subjective. let's think about the many times that someone has asked that we remove the link to their photographs because they felt "creeped out" by the presence of our visitors on their site. we've even had our own membership here repeatedly warn the Eyescene community to be careful about the remarks that our population has placed on the linked websites. Were the original photograph owners "hurt" by this attention? Emotionally perhaps.

Crystal Veil 11 Apr 2012, 15:21


the same goes for me.

Having said that, I don't mind the mix of motives among the members of this not everyday community. As to fetishism, my guess is that it comes in all sorts of degrees and variations. Live and let live, as long as nobody gets hurt or upset, including the law.

ehpc 11 Apr 2012, 14:55

I just like attractive women wearing hot glasses. Just as I appreciate attractive women wearing shiny high heeled shoes and women with blonde hair.

 11 Apr 2012, 13:55

"Where I am worried is the crossover between a generally harmless fetish ..."

IMHO, any fetish that is about getting sexually aroused by disabilities or other physical weaknesses that the targeted person usually haven't asked for, is far from being "generally harmless" but outright creepy because -- and that makes it different from most other, really harmless fetishes -- there is no such thing as mutual consent here.

 11 Apr 2012, 11:16

Keep in mind that the poster on Vision n Spex ALLEGES to be the person posting the photos. We have no way of verifying whether someone is taking someone else's photos and claiming ownership. For all we know, this "girl" is a sixty year old fat man with greasy french fry oiled fingers sucking down a Rolling Rock.

Over_16s_only_please 10 Apr 2012, 16:55

I agree with many others on here who have queried the appearance of pictures of minors on the site.

My preference would be for no pictures under the age of 16 to be posted on this site and if they are they should be removed. The girl on vision-and-spex is 16 and she posted the pics herself. That's a massive difference compared to a person younger than that who finds her pics have been lifted from somewhere else without her knowledge and permission and appear on a site to gratify the sexual fetishes of Eyescene users.

Let me stress: it's not the glasses fetish I'm concerned about. All of us have particular sexual preferences. Where I am worried is the crossover between a generally harmless fetish and the potential abuse of a person who is under the age of sexual consent.

Concern about Future Eyescene 10 Apr 2012, 16:23

There clearly are differing views on the purpose of Eyescene and it's contributors. But it is critical we hash this out for many reasons.

If indeed this were a simple discussion site about eyewear, why would all the people below have posted such strong personal objections to pictures of minors being included here? I believe it is because they "get it." They see the bigger picture, see through all the smoke and mirrors, that Eyescene is truly a fetish site for people with a sexual interest in glasses.

Now if you were to read most of the forums, you would probably be confused and argue that you don't see where all the sexual "stuff" actually is located. It isn't as obvious, until you start to read many comments from people who have posted over the years where they cite the simple discussion of eyes, glasses, vision, etc as a topic is something they find sexually stimulating as well. Many comments have also been posted over the years about how contributors here try to "overhear" such conversations between people, or secretly spy them, or photograph them without their knowledge, because everything about this fetish is a major turn on to them.

Those comments put what appears to be normal conversation over eyewear on this site a whole different light.

Furthering my point, I would argue how many people here keep the bookmark of this site private. Or have ever even shared with their coworkers, spouses, or significant others, the content of this site. If it truly were an open discussion about eyewear, what would be the problem? How would you feel if your coworker, spouse, or significant other visited this site and browsed through the content to their leisure. Do you think they would come away that this is a simple eyewear discussion site?

I think not.

Gen chan 10 Apr 2012, 14:29

Just to correct a spelling error, I mean beyond your own needs.

Gen chan 10 Apr 2012, 14:20

I don't often feel compiled to post to this site, although I have been a visiter of here for a very long time. Actually I've been a visitor ever sense I was a minor myself. After going back and looking at the picture that has caused all the offence though, quite frankly I find the whole mess rather amusing.

The way I've always seen it. Eyescene is and has always been like in it's title, a discussion site. As such as well people of all ages has been allowed to post on or view it as well. Of course there are topics here that go into the fetish side as well and even in threads like like when I was at school people can be describing about how they fancied minors. Of course with there it's saying about that from the point of view of being a minor as well. but is that wrong.

Also for my feelings about it being a discussion site, a good part of the site is to do with people talking about their eyesight or asking questions because they may not understand things well. From that you've got normal adults posting, right up to parents asking about their kids, to the kids, the minors so well. If this is a fetish site as some are implying, are you saying that such discussions are sexual in nature as well and don't belong on the site also?

This actually reminds me of something from the vision-and-spex site that a schoolgirl posted. She was talking about stuff that was going on with her vision and even posted pictures of herself when she got new glasses. I would guess under what you are trying to imply, she shouldn't be allowed to do that here, yet over there the discussion continued and didn't stray from topic and going into the sexual side. That site there has the same role as this one, to replace Wurm's Eyescene. Are the 2 places really that different when a lot of the topics, themes and even members are the same.

As for the picture itself. I implied that I came here as a minor and back then and I'm not scared to say this, I would have liked seeing a picture like that. Someone around the same age as me as apposed to the older women more common. But I'm not a minor now, I'm a man in my mid 20's. However I will look through at that picture and not feel offended. I can go through all of Seen on the web and Guys with glasses and feel the same way. I like looking at glasses and seeing what sort of frames they have or how the lenses are, but it is not sexual in nature that I enjoy such things. If I want that, there are the XXX links and other sites to go to and will please me in that way instead. If permission to such pictures or videos isn't granted then they should be removed, but in the context of the page and with the q&a on the site, the picture is in context and justified.

Maybe you might agree with what I'm saying and maybe your don't, but I think it's important here and sometimes to stop looking at the world through your pervert goggles and start looking at the bigger picture bound your own needs.

So, what should be done with this site then? It could carry on, follow it's rules and be careful from now on like it has been doing over the many years that I've known this place. In short, it should stay being a discussion site. However, if this place is a fetish site after all and end of story, there is a much bigger problem going on then just a random picture of a teenage girl. If that is the case, it's more then just pictures that need to be removed, but discussions and topics that would need to go as well. As a result of it as well and to prevent such appearing, access to the site should be blocked as well to minors. If it's an adult site, then it would only be natural and right to treat it as such. I don't think that's what people would want though.

End of the day, the context of what's posted is as important as the context or the person reading it. They aren't always the same and it can cause issues like this. But as long as things are clear and balanced, I don't see any reason why this should cause the fuss that it has. Also as a personal note, if I saw this site like some are implying, as a fetish or adult site, then my interest in here would have been nothing like what it has been. Why would I visit something that isn't interesting after all.

 10 Apr 2012, 13:33

to be honest, not only as a minor but even as an _adult_ woman who wears glasses i definitely dont't want my pictures being linked into the 'sexual arousal' context of the seen-on-the-web thread when i have them published elsewhere on the internet in a completety fetish-free context. it's just wrong to do this change of context without asking for explicit permission, especially as nowadays every future boss searchs the internet before actually hiring you. just my 2ct.

 10 Apr 2012, 09:58

i think it might be a good idea to consider what we all talk about on this site. we don't go on about trendiness, we have topics like "what turns you on about glasses" and "XXX links" and "seen on the web" and "sightings." all these talk topics talk about what excites and attracts us to this sexual fetish. an outside eye would not understand anything here and it might appear to be a normal eyewear discussion site, just like the leather and rubber sites might seem the same way. but who are we trying to kid. this site isn't for the outside eye, its for us and we know what the images are here for, and that's the important part.

Puffin 10 Apr 2012, 09:49

mmm, it's all very well stating what the intention of this site is. But perhaps instead just look at the content and draw conclusions solely from that. These two conclusions might be held to be different, depending on the viewer, especially one who is otherwise unfamiliar with the nuances.

Curious About Future Eyescene 10 Apr 2012, 06:59

Moonshiner... If you will pardon, one additional comment I wanted to make. You seem to identify this site as an eyewear site first and a sexual fetish site secondly. As someone who has been around since the USENET days which generated successive sites, including this one, it is indeed a sexual site first.

But you could argue that eyewear and glasses are discussed in a manner that is not sexually associated with the items. For that same argument, I would ask you to look on leather fetish sites, and you will see whole discussions about the use of leather, the quality of leather, which leather feels better than the rest, and even tanning techniques to get the best leather.

The same thing goes to sites for people who have a strong sexual interest in rubber, nylons, even prosthetic limbs. There is always a strong discussion of the item itself.

But you won't see Wilson's Leather linking to that leather sexual fetish site. And you won't see Goodyear linking to that rubber sexual fetish site. Why? Because as they know, a deep sexual attraction to something generates much discussion of the items associated with that sexual attraction, but not in a manner that the rest of the public would understand.

So for those reasons, I argue that Eyescene has been, and will always be a sexual fetish website first and foremost. You don't see Pearle Vision Optical posting a link to your site, do you? How about ForEyes? Nope. And they wouldn't think twice about that response once they saw our content.

Try thinking about it that way.

Curious About Future Eyescene 10 Apr 2012, 06:49

Moonshiner, I appreciate your recitation of the site FAQ, but therein lies the problem. You basically agreed that photographs showing minors do not belong on this site without realizing you said so. Here's your quote: "any discussion of, or links to material which portrays, pre-adolescents in sexual situations will be deleted."

Now let's take that in the normal world context. That means any naked children, showing body parts, in an exploitative manner intended for the sexual gratification of others. Of course, that is most obvious and should not be allowed.

But here's the problem. The people who visit this site do not generally derive sexual stimulation from the normal world. This site is dedicated to those who find a sexual attraction to eyeglass wearers, or those who need eyeglasses. In that context, the things that derive sexual satisfaction from, such as someone getting new glasses, cleaning their glasses, squinting, talking about how bad their eyesight is, etc would not generally be taken by the normal world as anything of sexual interest to them.

But all those things do generate sexual arousal here. The photograph links that are presented are because someone has found a link providing and we are sharing those links due to the sexual arousal they provide to people with our fetish. We know the outside world does not view these things as sexual, yet we feel comfortable talking and sharing links here, because we derive sexual satisfaction from the non-normal methods that your FAQ presents.

So getting back to the pictures. Most of the links here (apart from the XXX) would be thrown off pornographic sites because they wouldn't understand where the stimulation comes in. However, as our fetish is non-normal, the normal world would not see how we are deriving sexual satisfaction from these links.

But in fact they are. When we click on these links, we are expecting to derive sexual arousal from these links because they are targeted to our specific fetish here. Normal world folks would snooze at what we find so sexually attractive.

In that context, let's consider why links are being posted here, as stated above. For the sexual satisfaction of the users of this site. Now we are seeing links for children being posted because they are doing something which the site population here would deem sexually stimulating if an adult were doing the same thing.

So in that context, understanding all of the above, are the links of children being posted here to generate sexual stimulation because of their glasses wearing? While the normal world would not understand what we find sexually attractive here, we all understand it. So is the posting of children wearing glasses on this site exploiting the sexual connection to the fetish we have and resulting them being grouped with the adults whom we see doing the same thing sexually exploitative. YES.

It is sexually exploitative in the manner that asking a six year old to dress up in a negligee and wear adult makeup would be to the normal world. Posting pictures here of any age of folks engaging in what sexually stimulates us can be considered exploitation.

And in conclusion, it is for those reasons, that I believe you answered the question yourself. These photo links are being used in a sexually exploitative manner, and I believe in that context - not the normal world context of what the world deems sexually attractive, BUT OUR CONTEXT, you will understand where I come from and continue in that respect, to have them removed.

 10 Apr 2012, 00:35


Your post summarizes my feelings on this topic. I hope everyone can exercise discretion and adhere.

Puffin 08 Apr 2012, 13:36

The irony about all this stuff about internet/communications providers keeping lists of sites we've visited, in order to trap criminals, is that they apparently have many easy ways to bypass them anyway.

It now seems possible someone in government will realise that this will cost a ton of money to do properly and even so achieve little. For instance, it costs a heap of money just to monitor all those previously identified home-grown terrorists, and that number is nothing compared to the wider population. Not that we have endless money right now.

The strangest thing is that forcing terrorists/criminals off the net does not make them go away. They were around a long time before the internet and mobile phones were invented, and that lack didn't stop them. Possibly someone in government will wake to this truth, rather than pretending doing anything is better than doing nothing.

Moonshiner 08 Apr 2012, 12:34

The linked pictures of children in question are not sexual or pornographic in nature and do not provide any contact info. Please read this from the FAQs:

Q. I'm bothered when people post about kids, can something be done?

A. Eye Scene is a discussion site about eyewear. Some of the participants have been minors, others come here as parents seeking opinions, many of us wore glasses as children, and the psychological ramifications of being a child wearer of glasses are of interest.

Eye Scene is also what might be called fetish-friendly, in that the association of sexual desire and eyewear is frequently a topic of discussion.

The fact that these two topics exist in parallel on the same site has led to hasty judgments at times. It is good to remember that each individual's psyche is unique, and we should be slow to project our own approach to this site upon others.

There exists a general taboo regarding children and sexuality. This varies in its particulars from culture to culture, but the administrator feels a responsibility to help protect children from harm. To this end, posts which solicit personal contact information from minors are strongly discouraged and will be deleted. Also any discussion of, or links to material which portrays, pre-adolescents in sexual situations will be deleted.

Moonshiner 08 Apr 2012, 12:34

The linked pictures of children in question are not sexual or pornographic in nature and do not provide any contact info. Please read this from the FAQs:

Q. I'm bothered when people post about kids, can something be done?

A. Eye Scene is a discussion site about eyewear. Some of the participants have been minors, others come here as parents seeking opinions, many of us wore glasses as children, and the psychological ramifications of being a child wearer of glasses are of interest.

Eye Scene is also what might be called fetish-friendly, in that the association of sexual desire and eyewear is frequently a topic of discussion.

The fact that these two topics exist in parallel on the same site has led to hasty judgments at times. It is good to remember that each individual's psyche is unique, and we should be slow to project our own approach to this site upon others.

There exists a general taboo regarding children and sexuality. This varies in its particulars from culture to culture, but the administrator feels a responsibility to help protect children from harm. To this end, posts which solicit personal contact information from minors are strongly discouraged and will be deleted. Also any discussion of, or links to material which portrays, pre-adolescents in sexual situations will be deleted.

Moonshiner 08 Apr 2012, 12:23

The site was down for a few hours. I somehow missed paying the hosting bill.

Puffin 08 Apr 2012, 11:31

this site seemed to go off-line earlier today - I forget the exact words, something like "this account is suspended". If it is due to the posting of children's photos, then all posters should take it as a warning.

minus 5 who luvs gwgs 08 Apr 2012, 00:40

I have zero interest in seeing pictures of minors I imagine it is ok to mention that one has seen a child in strong glasses I did once see a girl of about 10 in minus 10s or thereabouts she must be about 30 now and I one assumes minus 20 or more but please no pictures

Soundmanpt 07 Apr 2012, 20:21

I also think that the age should be 18 years old. If there is any doubt then error on the side of caution and don't post it. There seems enough pictures of ladies over 18 to keep most happy in here. If I see a picture come up and it is a child I close it and move on to another post.

Moonshiner I don't envy your job trying to keep up everything coming in. It appears that the pictures have been taken off. It's sad to see Pete and others jump off but I can understand their reasoning. I just think it is difficult to police. Moonshiner can't be expected to sit at his computer 24 hours a day and 7 days a week to catch these things as soon as they happen. It would be much better if the person or people just would use common sense and not post them in the first place.

Remember if someone came down on this forum because of those pictures I would hate to be the one that posted them as they well could end up doing jail time more so than anyone that simply opened them as we most often have no idea of the age until we open the post.

Pete 07 Apr 2012, 16:13

Yea, I have had it also...Poofe

Hansel 07 Apr 2012, 13:52

As Nick said, there have been announcements about governmental scutiny of websites here in the UK. For me, as a school teacher, I cannot take the chance of being associated with a site that has potential links to minors. Equally, as Bryan notes, the site owner is the moderator, so ultimately the decision lies with Moonshiner.

While sad to have to sever ties after a long associationb with Eyescene, and it will be a wrench, the time has now arrived to part company.

To all those people I have never met, nor am likely to, I wish you all the best.

Best wishes,


Bryan_kerr292 06 Apr 2012, 20:13

I also feel that pictures of minors should not be posted here. However I don't have any control over this site, andneither do you, so let the owner be the policeman.

Frothing 06 Apr 2012, 17:39

No minors! This is not negotiable! Get the photo off the site immediately!

Concern about Future Eyescene 06 Apr 2012, 16:28

Sir.. I still must raise concern. It's been five days since this has been brought to your attention, and yet the picture of the little 15-year girl wearing glasses remains on this sexually-oriented site. We all know these pictures are posted for sexual enjoyment and as such, pictures of minors do not have a relevance here.

I ask that you please take action soonest to avoid the spider bots from noting there are links here which lead to children. This could lead to legal action by authorities who may put this site on a watchlist. That spells trouble for you, and your users.

If you believe there is an issue with this matter, and it is not in the best interest of the site to remove pictures of minors, why not put it to a vote and ask the readers how they feel about this.

Again, I implore your reconsideration of this matter.

nickweymouth 03 Apr 2012, 09:19


Puffin 03 Apr 2012, 07:10

I just think we should all err on the side of caution with the under 18 year olds. They may be posted up with entirely innocent intent, but that might not be clear to others new to this site or its basic concept.

It would be a shame to see this site taken down because people are posting inappropriate material.

Concern about Future Eyescene 02 Apr 2012, 18:40

I think the question could be answered quite simply, Crystal Veil. Ask the parents if they would have any problem with you posting their daughter's pictures on a website that caters to people with a sexual fetish for people who wear glasses. I think we both know what that answer would be even before you ask it.

If I can add, I think your photographs are more along the lines of artistic value, Crystal Veil. They are very well done and tastefully nice to look at. But that doesn't change the nature of this site. Just take a look at the majority of postings here, particularly in the XXX area. People are discussing their sexual attraction to glasses, or people who need glasses, and as such how it has become a hobby for them.

It doesn't need to get extremely graphic but we all know exactly what of feelings are being raised from the pictures being posted here, and it is not art.

Crystal Veil 02 Apr 2012, 17:54

Re Concern about the future of Eyescene,

for me this raises the question if I would be putting Eyescene at risk if I did a photo shoot with a slightly under 18 model and send the link to this community. One of my models has a daughter under 18 and she suggested that her daughter might like to do a photo shoot for me in exchange for new glasses as her prescription kept getting worse all the time. The idea did not materialize but I did a photo shoot with a model who was then two months from her 18th birthday. Because of her age I asked her to check if her parents were OK with the shoot as it was my intention to post it on my weblog. The parents saw no harm in it and we did the photo shoot. I also noticed that several Mayhem models are under 18.

So my question is: does it make a difference if the person on the photos (and her parents) have approved with posting on the internet or - my guess - the person is unaware that her pictures are posted here?

Concern about Future Eyescene 02 Apr 2012, 15:47

Moonshiner, I must raise another concern as it appears we are back to posting pictures of children.

Please review Olek's posting on 01 Apr 2012, 22:44 in the SEEN ON THE WEB thread. He clearly notes that this individual is only 15 years old, but in my opinion, that makes it even worse. Knowingly posting a child's picture on a site which is clearly designed for a sexual fetish is plain wrong.

I applauded your efforts last time Moonshiner when those postings were removed and I ask that you do so again. It might even be necessary to ask that posters do their best to ensure the pictures they are posting here are in compliance with US Federal Laws regarding the distribution of children's photos for sexual gratification.

I ask other Eyesceners here to add their comments about this matter as well.

Astra 30 Mar 2012, 03:45

by using the projector, the magnifying tool can be selected easily.

Astra 30 Mar 2012, 03:29

I typically have the image via projector on a screen to read.

The projector can select magnifying tool easily.

Puffin 29 Mar 2012, 18:08

I think it's one of the way older windows systems used to do accessibility for low vision users. Windows 7 still does it.

still 29 Mar 2012, 12:38

Me too! Puffin, where'd that come from?

-14 27 Mar 2012, 19:41


worked for me!!!

Soundmanpt 27 Mar 2012, 16:48


I just tried that and I do have a mouse, but it didn't do anything. The only thing that I got was instead of the cursor moving around it changed to a circle with a line going through it. It could be because my computer is quite old. I guess i shouldn't complain though, atb least I don't have to wind it. lol

Puffin 27 Mar 2012, 16:11

If you press and hold the "Ctrl" key (there's usually one at the bottom right of the keyboard, just below the shift key) and then rotate the mouse wheel if you have one - then the font size changes bigger or smaller according to which way the wheel rotates.

Soundmanpt 27 Mar 2012, 14:42


Thanks! That works great, once again you are a hero to a computer challenged person.

Val 27 Mar 2012, 14:00

Soundmanapt, click Board Index, and you're at the original page.

About the small printing, I don't know how to put larger fonts, because it's not my design.

Soundmanpt 27 Mar 2012, 13:55


I think it is great that you are working with making "visionandspex" even better and to date you have done a fantastic job. But maybe it's because I am so very bad with working with computers but I kinda don't like how it opens up now as well as it was yesterday. Now when I open it up I have loads of mnay topics and in very small print and worse yet there is no way, that I can tell anyway, when something new has been added or updated. I liked the nice big headings for the 15 or 15 main topics you had before and it indicated by date and time if something was added.

Val 27 Mar 2012, 12:23

I was trying to bring some improvements on Vision and Spex.

I am not a computer specialist, but, using the tools provided by Freeforums, I customized the portal for the site and installed various language packs for registered users.

So please try the portal and let's see how it works

nickweymouth 19 Mar 2012, 05:57

hi i just did a google search for simply eyescene

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minus 5 who luvs gwgs 19 Mar 2012, 02:57

I have always thought we should have a myopia progression thread

Moonshiner 18 Mar 2012, 21:04

I just tried a Google search, The FAQ page came up near the bottom of the first page, A search for eyescene glasses returned the Guys in Glasses thread about half way down the first page, with eyescene sightings the first four results were for

To help Google results, try searching for eyescene and the thread you want. It will also help increase the ranking if you enter the site via Google instead of a bookmark or link for awhile. Entering via Google occasionally will help keep the ranking up which in turn should help bring more users to the site.

LikeGlass 18 Mar 2012, 16:57


Give it time. The old addresses are well entrenched, and it will take the spiders awhile to climb the web and notice the change.

Of course, with the address being it kind of defeats the need for a search.

Brian 18 Mar 2012, 14:50

Is there a way to get this "Eye Scene" to pop up in a google search for "Eye Scene" instead of the old site?

Moonshiner 17 Mar 2012, 23:45

I just added more detailed descriptions to the Sightings, Nearsightings, and Hyperopia and Presbyopia Progression threads to clarify the intended content. If you have any other ideas for these or other thread descriptions please post them here.

Revolver 15 Mar 2012, 08:51


Have sent 2 e-mails to you over the last week and a half re unpublished stories with no response, which leads me to believe that my e-mail account is malfunctioning again. Please send me a test message.

pete 13 Mar 2012, 20:57

. . . suddenly I can now again do so, again for no apparent reason . . .

It's called mojo workin'.

Puffin 13 Mar 2012, 18:37

after a couple of weeks not able to access "Vision-and-Spex", for no apparent reason, suddenly I can now again do so, again for no apparent reason. Strange thing this internet.

Teenlurker 11 Mar 2012, 16:24


Slit 11 Mar 2012, 11:01

I highly respect the efforts of wurm and moonshiner.

But PLEASE STOP the child picture/video postings. This means pictures / videos of those under age of 18.


Melyssa 11 Mar 2012, 10:13

I fully agree with Concern and others. If I had children, I certainly wouldn't want any pictures of them online, and I would not want to look at any other pictures of other ones either. These postings are even worse than the "XXX" links.

nickweymouth 10 Mar 2012, 14:07

sorry moonshiner but one has to agrea with the three posters

Hansel 10 Mar 2012, 14:00

Add my name to the opinions as detailed below.

If the site were to move to that more liberal position, for want of a better expression, it would no longer be a site I would visit.

pete 10 Mar 2012, 13:23

I fully support what Concern about Future Eyescene is requesting of you. I would take it a step further. Sure, concerns of the users are important but what happens to the rights of those children whose images get passed around on the internet? Shouldn't we help protect their anonymity?

Concern about Future Eyescene 10 Mar 2012, 11:41

Moonshiner please take this in the utmost respect. This post is meant to serve as constructive criticism of your decision to defend the posting of very young children who happen to wear glasses...

To be blunt up front, no one here cares with what you and Wurm agreed upon. The majority of posters here still feel those images violate the spirit of Eyescene which is generally meant as a gathering place for folks with a sexual attraction to glasses and those wearing them. Images are posted which people often collect and may experience sexual pleasure to. You can't ignore the sexual aspect of our fetish.

Now given that, allowing the posting links of children photos opens this site up to possible Federal scrutiny down the road. I work in the Washington, DC area and I know investigative agencies in DC who actively look for sites that post links to children's photos for possible criminal investigation. If you feel comfortable you can defend the photos as "art" or whatever, that's fine. But I think you need to re-consider all the factors involved here. Free speech isn't as free as you think, and others who think they are in full compliance are sometimes dragged into court to defend their actions. Regardless of the outcome, you can guarantee the exposure is not worth it.

I'd invite you to listen to your USERS, and not adhere to some flimsy agreement that you had. Isn't this site really here for the users anyway, not just you and Wurm? Think about that.

Moonshiner 02 Mar 2012, 22:45

The missing posts from the old host are all uploaded here now.

GL 01 Mar 2012, 12:13

Thank you, Mr Moonshiner. You deserve a medal!

Moonshiner 29 Feb 2012, 20:00

I just received notice from the old host that they are back up. I have retrieved the last months posts and will be uploading them to this host in the next few days.

albert 25 Feb 2012, 21:41

Thank Moonshiner. Went through withdrawal while it was down!! Glad its back.

still 25 Feb 2012, 11:39

Thanks for your efforts, Moonshiner. It's a relief to see

that we are in existence again.

Moonshiner 25 Feb 2012, 11:00

Just received this email from the previous host:

Our main servers 2TB hard drive failed recently, All data on that drive was lost. We do have a back up but are having some trouble configuring that backup to the new drive as some of the data was corrupted. We are working to recover it and reload this data but it is taking some time to complete. We hope this will be fixed soon.

We am Very Sorry for this inconvenience!

I still cannot connect to them via ftp this morning. I'll keep trying.

Revolver 25 Feb 2012, 08:33


Thank you, and I believe I speak for all who frequent this site, for all of your prompt hard work in getting the forum back up and running.

Soundmanpt 25 Feb 2012, 01:23

Glad to see it's back up. If Feb is lost it won't be the worst thing that ever happened.

Moonshiner 24 Feb 2012, 23:56

The previous host of Eye Scene has shut down without notice sometime on 2-22-2012. The site is now at a new host. About a month of threads are lost with the old host, I'll try to connect via ftp every few days (not working now) for awhile. If the threads are still there I'll restore them here.

royboy 18 Feb 2012, 14:15

never mind! - after I posted my alert, when I wend back to ES all the dates displayed ok - it may have had to do with 'cookies'.

so all is copacetic!

royboy  18 Feb 2012, 14:11

I notice that "threads by most recent post" the dates in the index are not accurate. not sure if the problem exists only on my iPhone. the index is displaying very recent posts showing older dates - in the actual thread it is ok showing 18th feb. possible it's a minor setting for the administrator.

Puffin 15 Feb 2012, 06:10

yes I did get the email, thanks. I've tried a bit of fiddling around with firewalls and stuff but still not working. perhaps the problem will go away on its own, after all it started the same way!

Val 15 Feb 2012, 01:50

Puffin I've sent you an email yesterday. Did you get it ?

Are you still having problems accessing V&S ?

Trent 14 Feb 2012, 23:22

Seem alright to me, I use Firefox.

Puffin 14 Feb 2012, 06:09

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage

Val 14 Feb 2012, 01:49


What kind of error do you get ?

To me it's seems all OK.

Puffin 13 Feb 2012, 19:20

I am unable to access ""

Cactus Jack 08 Feb 2012, 00:02


Before you took over, my posting time was always right for CST or CDT. I assumed that Wurm was located in the Pacific Time Zone, but maybe it was not. It is not a big problem, just mildly interesting.


Moonshiner 07 Feb 2012, 21:00


I am in Michigan so it is set for eastern time - UTC -5 hours.

Cactus Jack 07 Feb 2012, 17:11

Has anyone else noticed that the time stamp on their posts is one hour off. I live in the US Central Time zone which is presently UTC -6 hours.


Astra 23 Jan 2012, 12:12

Re: 21 Jan 2012, 06:34

I offer chat , share photo .

Moonshiner 22 Jan 2012, 01:50


Posts deleted - advertising and off topic

8 21 Jan 2012, 06:34

John S: I read your post and thought your idea of metadata sounds great, but I am not the site administrator. You should direct your questions back to Moonshiner and maybe get some input from Wurm. Perhaps it does explain our lack of "viewership."

Astra: You are sidestepping the answer to the question, perhaps because you don't have anything to offer? But please try. Let's bring it back, okay? Focus, focus...

Astra 20 Jan 2012, 20:02

Re: 20 Jan 2012, 16:32

Explanation: Unlike you, we enjoy being "mindless".

Astra 20 Jan 2012, 19:53

Re: John S 20 Jan 2012, 19:17

As we have all seen in the past, 8 balls / nonplussed generates endless criticism.

John S 20 Jan 2012, 19:17


I would venture by your response, you did not bother to read my post or care? - Thank You

I think I am getting the idea...

8 20 Jan 2012, 16:32

That's a really nice and cute soundbite, Astra. But please explain how does it effectively translate into resolving the issue and bringing lots of other people into the site? All I can see it doing is adding myself who has already been here posting for years.

Andrew 20 Jan 2012, 14:35


nickwewymouth 20 Jan 2012, 06:57

i agrea hansel

GL 20 Jan 2012, 04:01


Well said.

Astra 19 Jan 2012, 23:31

Re: 19 Jan 2012, 09:07

Ask what you can give, not what you can get.

Hansel 19 Jan 2012, 14:32

Sorry for the lack of clarity in the middle section of my last post, but I hope people get the drift.

At least it adds to my post count!

Hansel 19 Jan 2012, 14:30

I feel obliged to put up a post;-)

Like many I am a daily reader of the site, but not a regular poster. Is it not the case that quite a number of posts that appear are from those concerned about their eyesight/the possibility of needing glasses/the concerns about first time wear in fron of their friends. For those people to have some of the "Gang of 6 or 7" who have much technical knowldege can provide that information/reassurance that comes from their great experience, either via training/pofession or through their own interest.

Ultimately it is the 6 or 7 who keep the site alive and vibrant, which then allows the casuals, like me the opportunity to post when some thing floats the 1.74s

John S 19 Jan 2012, 09:44

First off,

I do use my real first name and my last initial, so I disagree with you.

As far as getting more exposure - The web site does not have the any Meta Keywords in the header portion of the index page coding. That is what the search engines use to find sites when people put in a search term. I would venture to guess that the missing keywords are intentional, but what do I know...

I could post an example if anyone is interested.

8 19 Jan 2012, 09:07

There you go, now I have a name. No one here uses real names so asking for something as ridiculous as that offers nothing to move the conversation forward. But I'll concede with a name just as phony as all the posters names here.

Bringing this back to the original point: I'd like to see more people on Eyescene so that it can move away from the clique that has developed. My one contribution won't bring 5, 10, or even 20 people here, so stop asking about my own contributions. I've already posted many times and have been a longtime reader, so it's not about that. It's the bigger picture.

What can the "new" Eyescene do to get wider exposure and get more contributors? We really need fresh blood here instead of the reading posts by the same authors day in and day out.

Astra 19 Jan 2012, 00:47

Re: 18 Jan 2012, 15:31

Actions speak louder than words.

Puffin 18 Jan 2012, 19:33

On behalf of the site, I invite anyone to pick a name (even "noname", if you want) and start talking about glasses. Or go to Val's site and perhaps write a story. There's no harm in trying.

I did this about 10 years ago, and it's all been harmless fun really.

Soundmanpt 18 Jan 2012, 17:34

No name

This is of course my opinion, but I would like to think my comments aren't "mindless" thank you. But of course you are entitled to your opinion. Other than that remark I actually agree with you. It would be great to see more people contribute in here. As I did before I will confess to being one of the 6 or 7 you refer to. I do hope you take notice that I am not afraid to put my name to my comments.

 18 Jan 2012, 15:31

Glad to see the old site brought over by Moonshiner as new, and I offer my sincere thanks for doing so. But I think just bringing over the same site still also brought the problem with the same several few people mindlessly posting their opinion day in and day out on everything here over and over again. That turned the old Eyescene into a clique of 6 or 7 people, and I was hoping the new site can find a way to attract new blood. I'm not saying the contributions by those people aren't good and sometimes helpful additions, it's just very sad to see the same few posters over and over and over again.

I look forward on how we can get the word out to get more folks on this "new" Eyescene.

Wurm 18 Jan 2012, 13:05

They are caving on the DNS blocking, so that's good news if you favor a true hyperlinked web that includes user-generated content. The internet is much more than just an alternative channel to television and radio, and it should stay that way.

The essential problem here, as I see it, is that a coalition of large content owners/sellers wants to set up a kind of parallel legal system with its own set of rules and its own interpretations of due process. The exercises they go through on the other end to keep the actual creators of content away from profits are well documented, so this sort of maneuvering is hypocritical at best.

I'm never mollified by those who say "don't worry about these overly broad laws on the books - we won't enforce them in a way that will harm you". It's far better not to have the bad laws to begin with.

One of my senators (Ron Wyden of Oregon) has stated that he plans to filibuster to defeat this.

I'm an independent contractor and my key client is a company that creates and sells software worldwide. Piracy is real problem and in some cases existing laws need to be more rigorously enforced or even given sharper teeth. We need to continue pushing for better compliance from countries that have tended to tolerate piracy. But this is a bad bill that robs sites and internet service providers of their due process rights.

Puffin 18 Jan 2012, 04:58

I was wondering about that too, especially with the amount of links we do to pictures and articles.

 17 Jan 2012, 22:07

Do you think SOPA and PIPA have nothig to do with you or ths website?

Do not be mistaken!

Listen and watch:

The 18th January 2012 is the day of the Big Protest.

Lv2v4i 04 Jan 2012, 07:30

I agree. Thanks to all for past, current, and future service including VS. And to all the contributors as well.

Moonshiner 04 Jan 2012, 01:01


Thanks, I was going to email you about it.

Albert 03 Jan 2012, 21:50

Thanks to both Wrum and Moonshiner. Love this site.

Wurm 03 Jan 2012, 19:54

I've updated links from the old site to

Clare 03 Jan 2012, 16:04

Great to see the *old* site up and running still. Thanks to Wurm and to Moonshiner and happy new year to everyone.

Revolver 03 Jan 2012, 12:24

Very little to add to everything that has been said, other than kudos to both Wurm and 'shiner and I will continue with both sites....hope everyone else does as well.

Moonshiner 03 Jan 2012, 05:32


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chrisb 02 Jan 2012, 17:48

My thanks to Moonshiner for taking on the mantle. I'm one of the people who said they might take on the task and then bottled it.

I'm sure we are all going to be very supportive of Mr Shiner for keeping us all on the air.


Crystal Veil 02 Jan 2012, 17:26


I meant a password :)

Moonshiner 02 Jan 2012, 15:52


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Revolver 02 Jan 2012, 10:27

Not much I can add to what everyone else has said, we seem to have a consensus about thanks to Wurm and thanks to Moonshiner, and I will definitely be working both sites.

Only question, is what was CV talking about re a code? As a Sr. Cit myself indeed need things easy to remember!

Moonshiner 01 Jan 2012, 23:48


Soundmanpt 01 Jan 2012, 20:01

Yes my best to Moonshiner as well. Good luck you have big shoes to fill.

LikeGlass 01 Jan 2012, 19:22

Good to see Wurm's code live on and I hope he enjoys his retirement from moderation.

Open forums are so rare these days, in this respect, I am hoping ES stays along the same lines now that it is "under new management."

Good luck Moonshiner, you have taken on the mantel of a great legacy!

AlainHMG 01 Jan 2012, 15:09

The King is dead. Long live the King!

Happy New Year for everybody!

Crystal Veil 01 Jan 2012, 11:27

Happy New Year everyone!

I agree with Slit about the advantage of an easy navigating system here. And no problems with a code that has to be remembered - handy for a seniot citizen. Thanks, Moonshiner!

Slit 01 Jan 2012, 11:16

Happy New year Every One!!!

Thank you moonshiner for the great job!

Of course I do respect the effort at Vision and Spex, including the features like site management options, admin rights etc.

However, this format of ES has been the easiest to navigate and as many of you probably agree, this is one of the sites I log on to first thing in the morning, just like reading news, read around quickly for about 10 minutes to kick off the day. So the quick and easy navigation matters :)

Have a great glassy year ahead folks, may you be blessed with more diopters!!

daffy 01 Jan 2012, 08:15

HNY to all...and Happy New Eyescene.

Spexman 01 Jan 2012, 08:03

And I did it :-)

Spexman 01 Jan 2012, 07:54

Its so wonderful to see how this whole situation finally got this good solution thank you both Moonshiner anf Wurm for everything. Its a relief to be able to post a message and if no one is before me while typing Im the first.

Happy new year to all !

Astra 01 Jan 2012, 03:47


Tomx 31 Dec 2011, 20:20

You blocked me for much of the time. Over a silly row with someone named Nikki from New Zealand, of all places.

But regardless, I wish you a fond ado. You've had a very successful go with this site for these many years. Sorry to see it close.

Much success in your future endeavors.


Moonshiner 31 Dec 2011, 19:22

Happy new years everyone! I was going to post this on Wurms eyescene but he closed it to posts already so Im posting an edited version of it here as my first post.

This site is exactly the same as Wurms eye scene and will remain so for now.

I hope we can continue where Wurm leaves it and as well as him.

I hope it can coexist with Vals vision-and-spex forum. I didnt mean to upset anyone by keeping eye scene going. I waited awhile after Wurm announced the end to see if anyone else would pick it up. Wurm indicated that there was one other person who was waiting to see if vision-and-spex took off. I also joined vision-and-spex and didnt care for the additional navigating it took to get through it. Val has remedied much of that since then and I will continue to visit there also. Post here or email (address in the FAQ) if anything is not working.

Wurm 31 Dec 2011, 17:17

On that note, I think I'll lock things down. I'll post a link to Moonshiner's site soon (should be within a day or two).

Sachin T. 31 Dec 2011, 16:38

Thanks Wurm.... You have blocked be for a while but you have done a wonderful work.

nickweymouth 31 Dec 2011, 15:37

to all my fellow spec lovers thanks and wurm thanks for all the fish

Lentyop 31 Dec 2011, 14:32

Thanks Wurm for ES, place I always enjoyed!

Aubrac 31 Dec 2011, 14:15

I know there was a previous post about the future website but don't know what it is - will EyeScene Google searches be re-directed to it?

Happy New Year everyone!!

Hansel 31 Dec 2011, 12:33

Given the fact that the site's clock is US time....who wiill provide the "Last Post"?

Personally, until any changes occur, a farewell message from Wurm and then let him close it seems most appropriate.

From Hansel, a final thank you to you Chris.

Jamie32 31 Dec 2011, 12:28

Thanks Wurm for letting us enjoy the site all these years. All the best!

Jim H 31 Dec 2011, 11:57

My apologies Wurm!

Jim H 31 Dec 2011, 11:56

Been around this site for at least 10 years now. Thanks for your work Worm!

ddenmont 31 Dec 2011, 08:37

I've been lurking and sporadically posting on this site for 11 years now. Thanks for everything, Wurm.

specs4ever 31 Dec 2011, 08:13

Hey Revolver, I have just tried again. Hopefully you will get it - likely a problem with my provider.

HAppy New Year all.

Crystal Veil 31 Dec 2011, 05:21


I downloaded the archive for a bit of nostalgia now and then. Amazing that it does not take more volume. It will be hard to find another site as appreciative - and even more important - accessible as this (I forget passwords all the time). You are near the end of your Trojan work and I wish you all the best for 2012. I hope you will keep in touch from time to time through email.

Wurm 30 Dec 2011, 22:45

Only 12 MB. Text compresses well and I've been trimming the Seen on the Web thread so it doesn't get too huge. It's 37 MB unzipped.

Bobby 30 Dec 2011, 20:50

To Revolver:

2 test mails have been sent.

To Wurm:

Thank you. Is it really only 12 megas?

Revolver 30 Dec 2011, 19:43

Bobby, S-4, Dieter: o.k., it seems to be working now with the operative word being "seems". Didn't do anything except get an automated message about doing what I didn't do in the first place but sent myself one from a different computer and a different account and it came through. Please, guys, try it again and I'll see what happens tomorrow. As for tonight I've had it up to here with techie stuff and am going to go uncork a cold Moosehead and relax.

Revolver 30 Dec 2011, 19:14

Bobby: and therein lies the problem....have sent you several with latest story attached and no answer so assumed there was a problem. S-4 confirmed that, have contacted and am awaiting an answer. Tried to send that addy a test from one of my other accounts & it wouldn't go will keep trying.

Wurm 30 Dec 2011, 19:07

A zip archive with all the current forum content is available at

Bobby 30 Dec 2011, 16:03

No, his mail server is not I have exchanged some emails with him, and he got them.

specs4ever 30 Dec 2011, 07:14

Revolver - I tried to send you something, but id didn't go through - is it maybe

Andrew 30 Dec 2011, 00:51

I just wanted to take the opportunity to say thanks to Wurm for the many years of pleasure and education this site has brought me. I shall still be around, but best wishes to Wurm in his retirement (at least from this site).

Revolver 29 Dec 2011, 12:33

Specs4ever, Dieter:

Have written and edited a rather lengthy story, but need the advice of the old masters. Would appreciate hearing from both of you at

daffy 28 Dec 2011, 04:26

Two sites is just fine...once upon a time we 'discovered' eyescene...with two sites running there is more chance that others will discover such treads/topics...I'm happy to see eyescene batton passed on...good luck to all of us specially the moderators.

jb 28 Dec 2011, 01:51

just to throw in my opinion. What moonshiner is doing is admirable and he should be applauded. V and S is also a great site and i see no reason they cannot co exist.

Wurm, thanks for all your efforts over the years and enjoy a deserved web retirement

Wurm 27 Dec 2011, 14:36

Just to be clear, I will only be involved with Moonshiner's site as a technical consultant. I don't plan to do any moderation or decision-making there.

Personally, I will probably visit both sites and hopefully post something every so often.

What this band of merry souls becomes in the future is really only limited by the resolve of individuals. It seems to me there is a core of dedicated individuals like Val and Bobby who will make some sort of run of it. Let's not forget that Lenschat has been going as an independent site for years (TC should be included in the above list of doughty souls as well) and nobody complains that the community has fragmented along those lines.

I offered some time ago to pass along my code, Moonshiner took me up on it, so we will also see what happens there. He strikes me as a gentleman and a scholar, so I'm optimistic.

pete 27 Dec 2011, 14:30

We should be grateful to both Val and Moonshiner for stepping forward to maintain websites for our glasses and vision interests. Not only do we have a new site but now the continuing original one to look forward to as well. While ES is a known and established entity, V&S has the opportunity to uniquely define itself. Val seems to be getting good support from S4E, Bobby and others. That will only add to the sites richness and diversity.

For example, it's awesome that there is a Stories thread (again). Though Bobby has done the lion's share by hosting submissions on his site, V&S provides an easy and direct way for anyone so inclined to present their fiction.

Also, ES has distinct and fixed threads that must be adhered to. This restriction becomes arbitrary and limiting sometimes when the natural course of a live thread seems to meander and take on its own identity. V&S allows a registered user to bring a new and potentially obscure topic to life. That's huge!

Who knows what else is possible!

Rather than see conflict and topic overlap with these two sites, we should embrace and promote their differences. Having twice as many OO forums on the web is significant! . . . an outstanding way to begin a new year!

Val 27 Dec 2011, 14:20

I am sorry, some of the characters are not readable. Let me try again:

Hello Eyescene readers,

I appreciate all the kind words and support from each one of you.

I must say that what Wurm has done for the last 15 years is extraordinary. For me it's been "only" 11 years.

Thank you Wurm (Chris).

When I started Vision and Spex, my idea was to TRY to continue somehow Wurm's work. It's been only a few month since I started it, and thank to the help from Bobby, Specs4ever and others, it's beginning to grow. Of course, I've had the advantage of a large community formed in those 15 years.

If Wurm found another way to continue his work, I will be very happy to visit the new Eyescene.

Moonshiner was kind enough to offer web space, so we have to thank him also.

I don't think that Vision And Spex should be closed. It will continue to exist as long as it will be necessary. It's not a competition.

Actually no other site can compete with Eyescene. Long Live Eyescene! And thanks again Wurm!

Yours, Val

Val 27 Dec 2011, 14:14

Hello Eyescene readers,

I appreciate all the kind words and support from each one of you.

I must say that what Wurm has done for the last 15 years is extraordinary. For me it’s been “only” 11 years.

Thank you Wurm (Chris).

When I started Vision and Spex, my idea was to TRY to continue somehow Wurm’s work. It’s been only a few month since I started it, and thank to the help from Bobby, Specs4ever and others, it’s beginning to grow. Of course, I’ve had the advantage of a large community formed in those 15 years.

If Wurm found another way to continue his work, I will be very happy to visit the new Eyescene.

Moonshiner was kind enough to offer web space, so we have to thank him also.

I don’t think that Vision And Spex should be closed. It will continue to exist as long as it will be necessary. It’s not a competition.

Actually no other site can compete with Eyescene. Long Live Eyescene! And thanks again Wurm!

Yours, Val

Soundmanpt 27 Dec 2011, 12:33

Not that what I think means anything, but I would not have any problem being a member of both sites. And if I can ever figure out how to post things on Val's will comment there as well. I see where no one has done any wrong's. Has anyone ever considered that even if Wurm didn't have plans on shutting down someone still could have decided to start a new site. Look at it this way for a time it seemed there might not be any site at all after the first of the year and now we will have not one but 2 to view.

Also there is something to be said about Val's site which has much merit, and that is keeping out the frauds and fakes.

Spexman the original one 27 Dec 2011, 11:26

I must say that if this site will continue, I will be more then happy I have more or less been here every day since that day in may 1995 when I first found it.

This is a part of me and I was more then sad when I heard that the klocks was ringing for funeral of this site.

I dont understand the unfriendly comments from other people that have been along for a long time now. We should be happy ! Very happy to be honnest

I´m relieved that someone is willing to sacrifice time to keep the show going on. I have also been thinking myself to take contact and trying to help to keep ES alive, but I have both lack of time and knowledge to run it. So that a solusion comes up eleven fifty-five is making at least me very happy and I also suppose most of the others around here is.

So please no backfire here now because of the resent posts. I also hope that the new site can survive it might be better as someone said but I can´t see it. I prefer this.

"The show must go on"


"Staying alive"

Bobby 27 Dec 2011, 10:48

Well, this is rather unexpected turn of events.

If Eyescene continues taken care of Moonshiner, there will be two discussion boards claiming to be descendatns of this home of our community. There are only two possible outcomes of such situation:

1. The community will split.

2. One of the boards will die after some time.

From a general point of view, there is nothing wrong. The world is one large field of competition and the Internet is no exception to the rule.

From my personal point of view I cannot understand this step. Val has successfully started the Vision and Spex ( investing his time and money. The site has had 182 registered members (27th Dec 2011). And anytime I open the site there is at least 1 unregistered guest.

Vision and Spex has a lot of advantages:

It is easy to check the new posts. The registration guarantees as much anonymity as the Eyescene does. The system is a professional software for discussion boards enabling the users to open as many topics as they wish. The administrator (Val) can assign moderators with some rights to moderate the site (mostly to eliminate spam and trolls). The users can quote contributions of the others and edit "thier potsings to elinimaet tipos".

Summarized briefly: my opinion is that the Vision and Spex forum system is better and more comfortable.

So, why there is suddenly a different plan presented here?

John S 27 Dec 2011, 09:33

I disagree. If someone was going to continue the site, they would need the skills to do it. Chris wrote the BBS, obviously there is little documentation. The person would have to be savvy enough to take care it. The idea is, Chris wants out. He does not want to babysit the BBS anymore. I have no problem with that. Chris offered to turn over the board to someone else to host. The details must have been worked out. Would have made any difference if that deal was worked out a month ago? I don't think so. Val's board is up, I thank him for going through the trouble and expense to do it. I think there can be a place for both. Val's has a registration process, that might deter some of the fakers. Sure, it will have less traffic, but with good reason.

I offered hosting space publicly, not privately. But I can't take care of it. Which meant Chris was still tied to it. That was not the answer.

Moon has worked through the technical details, and will probably get some support for a limited amount of time until he is familiar enough to support it on his own.

More than ample notice was given that the board was being discontinued. Val jumped in to fill the void, he should be commended for that. Chris hosted the site for at least 14 years, he has found someone capable enough to take it over. He said he would turn it over to someone else if he could to keep it going. Now he kept his word. Now you tell him you think it sucks. That is real gratitude.

Everyone has an opinion, this is mine. This is a small community. We should be thankful that there are 2 people that are willing to keep our communication line going. Why can't we all just get along?

This has really hit a sore spot with me (if you can't tell). I have been involved with many non-profit clubs. 1 percent of the people do all the work, I always end up in the 1 percent. The other 99 percent reap the benefits and complain.

specs4ever 27 Dec 2011, 08:31

Moonshiner and Wurm, personally I think that what you are proposing sucks big time, especially after all the trouble, and some expense that VAL went to to set up vision and specs.

If you had planned to do this from the beginning that would have been fine, but by announcing that this site was closing unless someoen was willing to take it over you started the ball rolling Wurm. And Val jumped in to pick up the ball.

I will not waste my time hanging around 2 sites, and I rather doubt that others will as well, so in effect this will sound the death knell for a site that has yet to get off the ground.

Just my 2 cents worth.

newglasses 27 Dec 2011, 07:39

this would be perfect. Although I only knew eyescene since 2002 I really got attached and even participated on a few threads, I also remember my first thread in 2006 when I got my first glasses. I would miss eyescene dearly but also wanted to congratulate Wurm on his outstanding effort to keep this site clean, alive and interesting. I hope that Moonshiner will be successful in hosting this site and already want to thank him for his intent! Kind regards and thank you all.

Wurm 26 Dec 2011, 13:46

I'm working with Moonshiner to host the site on his server. A small test version is up and running.

We're still working out details, but I suspect that when I close posting here I'll be able to link almost immediately to his Eye Scene.

Moonshiner 26 Dec 2011, 12:51

Merry Christmas to everyone. I have been the discussing continuation of Eyescene with Wurm over the last several days. I am going to keep it going and hope I can do so as well as Wurm has over the years. More info will be posted before the end of the year.

Astra 25 Dec 2011, 07:11

Re: 25 Dec 2011, 07:10

 25 Dec 2011, 07:10

So where is everyone gonna congregate when it shuts down?

peter g 24 Dec 2011, 13:28

Thanks to all who have given life to this site, and who have patiently explained so many things to those of us less knowledgeable.

Season's greetings!

AlainHMG 24 Dec 2011, 12:36

Merry Christmas! A special thanks to Wurm for his dedication on this site during all these years. We will miss Eyescene.

Sappho 24 Dec 2011, 02:35

As a lurker for several years but one who has felt no reason to post, I would like to add my appreciation. Like many others it has been an eye-opening (pun intended) experience to find others out there similar to me. I have been struck by the humanity and patience of the knowledgeable, and occasionally irritated by the minority who have failed to live and let live.

it has been interesting when old friends (real or imagined) reappear after several months — Phil, Jersey Girl and Laura C spring to mind, but there have been so many with a good story to tell.

My thanks to Wurm for his benevolent hosting all this time, but all good things come to an end, so they say, and I can only hope that the new meeting place will become a worthy successor.

Highmyope 24 Dec 2011, 01:13

Damn. I'm going to miss this place. I've been here since the late '90s, and it was such a revelation to discover I wasn't the only freak. :) Goodbye, Chris, and thank you for changing my life -- or at least my thinking.

Clare 24 Dec 2011, 00:25

Just wanted to say Happy Christmas everyone and thanks to Wurm for helping us all. I've learned so much through this site and have really valued it. All the best for 2012.

Astra 23 Dec 2011, 22:30

To all users,

Thanks for contributing 9500+ posts in year 2011.

LikeGlass 23 Dec 2011, 08:59

The end of an era... Sad. I do miss some of the characters that have been here, and especially the few I have met in person over the years. Wurm, you and SG in Disney were a classic! On this end of the states, although she hasn't posted in years, Chippie is doing fine and now has a granddaughter! Of course, 20/20 and myself are doing well. To the hundreds of others here, which I have conversed with over the last decade or so, going to miss you all! It was nice to have this place to come and meet.

LEO 23 Dec 2011, 07:48

Thank you WURM for three wonderful years of my LIFE! EYESCENE became an important part of my life !!

Forever grateful!!!


Stan 23 Dec 2011, 02:12

Sorry about that. I named the three of you as a reference to the "old days" and then I went into the faker thing, which had stunned me at the time. The way I stated it would have applied to all three but that was not my intent, just bad syntax. Please accept my apology.

Yuen-Ming 23 Dec 2011, 00:57


I am not a fake. Very real.

Astra 22 Dec 2011, 23:27


I don't have the necessary programming background.

I'm interested to have a common place for images relevant to glasses.

Stan 22 Dec 2011, 18:03

I feel a lot like what Puffin said on June 20 - maybe it's all been said before. That's why I don't participate much any more. But I must say I never felt unwelcome to post because of the frequency or volume of anyone else's posts. I remember thinking of Cactus Jack as one of the "new guys" and I don't even know Soundmanpt (no offense intended to either of you).

I can pretty much sum it up for the next iteration's FAQ, wherever it resides:

OO - sure enough, you're not alone. There's a bunch of us.

Induced myopia - give it up. Ain't gonna happen, at least if you're over 20 or so.

Stories about high myopes losing their glasses and groping around for them - if you're reading one, it's fiction.

Young ladies with increasing prescriptions worrying they'll "go blind" - they might be out there but they don't post about it and if they do, they're fakes.

GOC - fun for a while but it ain't the real thing. (see my comment on Induced myopia)

I hate to see this community go but c'est la vie. Best to everyone, olds and news, reals and fakes. It has been a fun couple of decades (!!!). Merry Christmas and farewell, EyeSceners.

Stan 22 Dec 2011, 18:02

WOW, I just found out that ES is ending.

I have been coming here forever, from the days of Jennifer and Gayle and Yuen-Ming. In fact, I believe I followed "Jennifer" here from usenet, SMV.

Finding out they were fakes was a huge disappointment but one of my most valued lessons about interacting on the Internet.

I also remember some of us were on that other, similar site with a weird name, Thunder's Vision Board or something like that. I liked ES better when it was one giant thread like that, but obviously that would be impractical with today's volumes.

I check in maybe once or twice a month, and usually just the "Seen on the Web" thread. I had no idea the proverbial sh_t had hit the proverbial fan around here. I would ask "What happened" but I can pretty much tell from going through some of the posts from the last year.

@CHRIS, THANKS A LOT, MAN! I've sure enjoyed this site over the years and I don't blame you at all for not wanting to babysit. It was kind of nice in the old days but I don't think we worked you too hard back then. We were all kind of self-moderating and at least tried to be respectful, IIRC. It looks like this has become a full time job. I wish you the best.

I have the necessary programming background to maintain this site but I don't want a full time job babysitting either. I wish I did because I will miss this place.


Stan 22 Dec 2011, 18:00

Test - Problems posting. Is this thread locked?

gwgs 22 Dec 2011, 03:15

Chrisb - what a good point about Betsy! If you check all of her websites now, in their synopsis she mentions first and foremost she is a "girl with glasses" - now I doubt a few months ago if she had been asked to summarise herself that this would have been her one liner, and it is to this very website that we owe a lot of credit to that.

I think Wurm should also be extremely flattered that ES is mentioned in the same context as a household phrase, and world renowned website like Facebook. It just goes to show how a website can and should be run instead of having to register your true identity against everything you post - as wirth Facebook. Having said that, I'm sure Wurm wouldn't be complaining if this site had become as successful as FB, and was worth the same amount!!

Astra 21 Dec 2011, 22:41


Also think about "what is it men do in women desire?" .

and, socially, how generations of men and women today, grew up as children.

Astra 21 Dec 2011, 22:29

Crystal Veil,

": what's wrong with coming out of the closet outside this cosy village and tell the world about your fascination with glasses?"

not wrong.

but ... apart from fascinated about glasses, most visitors here have other fascination themselves.

chrisb 21 Dec 2011, 18:22

Cristal Veil,

I absolutely agree. Firstly about such a fitting epitaph to Wurm's great achievements over the years.

Then, that OO obsession should come out of the closet.

We've had the suspicion that other people writing in the old and new media have been impacted by the existence of ES and the postings here, but have possibly been reluctant to cite ES explicitly from concerns about possible 'fetishistic' accusations.

We've only got to think back a few months to Betsy Geezy's surprise that people (men) found her attractive, wearing glasses and the positive impact it had.

I'm not suggesting ES as a source of phsycological self help (sort of CBT by lens) but simply as a source of 'ideas'.

To slightly mis quote william blake.

"what is it women do in men desire? (transpose as appropriate)

ES helps us to the answer.


Crystal Veil 21 Dec 2011, 18:01

Evan, gwgs and last but not least Wurm,

Evan - thank you for unearthing this article. Read it with interest even though crippled by a bad concussion so I have to keep it short / slow. I enjoyed the way the writer is describing this (in my humble view, eccentric but rather innocent) village. Sometimes it takes the eye of an outsider to describe a city, a person, a landscape or any other phenomenon better than the insiders can. I had a big smile on my face when the writer mentioned terms like "cut in" and "power rings" - I learned those expressions during the past two or three years here at Eye Scene and now I am using them both here and in "the other world". The quotes about Facebook, I'm afraid, are very near the truth.

gwgs - your posting reminds me of a discussion I wished to start so often but never got round to start it, being too busy with the photo shoots. My question would be simply: what's wrong with coming out of the closet outside this cosy village and tell the world about your fascination with glasses? I am absolutely sure that Eye Scene is just the tip of an iceberg and there's lots of people attracted by the "bonus" of a well chosen pair of glasses. I am convinced that many opticians came to their profession that way. Gradually expanding my horizons, I noticed among the reactions on Mayhem Model and other sites that the one picture on a model's portfolio that shows her wearing glasses is often called the favourite of the viewers. I did my first exhibition out in the open, in the premises of my employer so to speak. The reactions were mixed - some highly encouraging, some unspoken but avoiding or not at ease. But I never regretted going for the exhibition as it was simply something that had to be shown. The media attention (newspapers, radio. television) was another confrontation but why not take up the challenge? Perhaps some of us here are too shy? Feel free to disagree....

Wurm - The phrase "The Eye Scene is a brilliant example of a subculture only the internet could have nurtured" in the article posted by Evan is perhaps the best praise ever for your great work. Call it an epitaph, but no doubt there will be reincarnation....

Just my 2 cents

good bye 21 Dec 2011, 15:31

thank you very very much, wurm. i never posted and i was not registered till now, but ES was like my secret family, which i daily visited. now it is realy very sad to say good bye.

god bless you all!

Brille 21 Dec 2011, 14:49

Well it's been great Eye Scene. I came across it 12 years ago or so. There were some good times.

Millhouse 21 Dec 2011, 14:45


Well put! Kinda feels good that we (eyescene community) have been externaly netxposed. But im a bit sad too- the end of an era. However 'we' know there others of us out there. Have a virtual beer on me wurm.

gwgs 21 Dec 2011, 08:27

What a fantastic find Evan, and what an extraordinarly well written article also, which showed no side of bias, nor did he criticise us for our infatuation of girls who wear glasses.

Reading that article was extremely sad for me as it brought to reality what is going to happen very shortly here. I "got into" girls wearing glasses when I was approx 16 years old, and have frequented this board for longer than I can remember, but at least since the turn of the millennium.

Now it is shutting down, as the author says in his article, where will be able to find a website that is as well run, well frequented by familiar users who post an interesting series of sightings, links to photos, and new projects (e.g. Stephan & Sandra, Crystal Veil).

For me the jury is certainly out, and I hope that someone can produce a worthy successor. I've maintained various Flickr/YouTube websites for a number of years which hopefully have an appreciative audience here (I know from the viewing stats they are well visited), but do not have the time, nor the technical knowhow to host, maintain & edit a message board as great as this.

Thanks Wurm for all that you have given us, and good luck with your future projects.

nickweymouth 21 Dec 2011, 08:22

sorry nmelissa you forgot diwali and more importantly to me


Melyssa 21 Dec 2011, 07:12

Happy Chanukah!!!!!!!!!

Along with Christmas, Kwanzaa, New Year, and Festivus -- for the rest of us. :)

Specs4Me 20 Dec 2011, 19:33

Since there is really no such thing as "Winter Holiday", I'd like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New year.

Astra 20 Dec 2011, 19:27

There's certainly more of a resemblance to a 1930s global economic depression , coupled with social habits developed afterwards...

2010-2011, there's a widespread economic depression.

"Facebook" ? sort of virtual communities I assume.

Are life not colorful enough for some individuals, they have to create a virtual "self" on "facebook" to satisfy their... ?

I cannot understand the excessive level of "trust" in users of "facebook", "google".

Ambitious ideas such as "QED project" disappear since 1980s.

Astra 20 Dec 2011, 19:03

Anyhow, wish you all a happy winter holiday.

Astra 20 Dec 2011, 18:52

User habit is changing with time.

Social factors, are you familiar ?

Astra 20 Dec 2011, 18:46


Demographics is a cause.

Wurm 20 Dec 2011, 15:14

Thanks for the link, Evan. I guess I can click off another minute or two on my 15 minutes of fame counter.

I think he's probably right, at least regarding the broad outline of what wore down my willingness to continue. It was becoming clear to me that we'd need to either become some other sort of community (maybe paid, almost certainly credentialed somehow, and perhaps invisible to the internet at large) or simply close up shop. At least with me as the host. Ultimately I decided not to evolve to be more like Facebook, or the Wall Street Journal, or one of the boutique private forums.

I do see Flickr as the greater culprit in my case, with their inane "don't be creepy" rule papering over a lack of education regarding user privacy. (I speak of the Flickr of a couple of years ago - not sure if they've wised up since.) Facebook has generally kept their users' stuff more out of view and presumably offers less in the way of stat logging, so I never really heard much from Facebook users.

Change is inevitable, especially when you're talking about something relatively new like web forums. Running even a smallish anonymous forum in the US may become difficult as more laws come down the pike.

Evan 20 Dec 2011, 14:41

You guys might be interested in this, which mentions ES!

nickweymouth 14 Dec 2011, 09:28


Wurm 14 Dec 2011, 09:08

Thanks everybody.

@still: I really appreciate your gesture of making a charitable contribution in honor of the site.

DNBursky 13 Dec 2011, 18:43

I thank the person, I believe his screen name is Wurm? For all the time putting in for this website. I have enjoyed the posts, and photos and stories, and will miss it. I hope this alternative website is just as good. :)



nickweymouth 13 Dec 2011, 14:53

dwv sorry mate im blonde lol

nickweymouth 13 Dec 2011, 14:52


nickweymouth 13 Dec 2011, 14:52

sorry dvw

nickweymouth 13 Dec 2011, 14:51

dmv sorry to ask old chap but before we all close down one has to ask what do your intailsstand for thank you wurm again

blessed be to all of you and a merry yule one and all

still 13 Dec 2011, 11:31

Chris, Once again let me say thank you for your generosity and work over all these years, which made our lives out here more enjoyable, and showed some of us that we were not alone, either. Some people, in what they do, enrich others, and you are one such person. Although I never contributed much to this site, I appreciated it, and will be making a donation to Doctors Without Borders in fond memory of this site. I will be out of town for much of December, and so this may be my farewell. Good luck to you in whatever you do, and good luck to all the fine members of this site. I hope to "see" you all again in the other place. Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year to you all.

Tino 13 Dec 2011, 05:28

Wurm, Thank you for hosting this site so well over the years. I've been visiting here for around 8 years but have only recently and occaisionally posted.

Val, I look forward to using the new site and hopefully from here I'll be able to achieve my goal

Albert 12 Dec 2011, 21:17

Wurm, I would like to add my thanks to those of the many others expressed on this thread. I am mainly a lurker, but am a daily visitor. I will miss this site, but am glad I found it when I did. I did take the time to go back on all the threads and read from the beginning. Best of luck and thanks again. Albert

Dieter 08 Dec 2011, 12:27


That's one of the major points that I like, being able to make corrections or even additions. Using the old eyescene, I've actually written text in Word, so that I could spell and grammer check, then cut and pasted to eyescene. No need for that nonsense with the new forum.

Specs4Me 08 Dec 2011, 11:55

As the year-end and the closing of Eyescene near, I would once again like to thank Wurm for this wonderful site. I've been coming here for 12 or 13 years, don't post much but I'm here generally at least once per day. It has been a pleasure to read the posts from so many folks, many of whom are very knowledgable about glasses and vision and I have learned much from them. I also enjoy the lighter banter from many posters that I find very entertaining.

Thank you, thank you Wurm. I know I like many others will miss this site and truly appreciate all that you have done over the years to keep this site up and running smoothly. I hope you stay around and that we will see you on the new site.

Revolver 08 Dec 2011, 09:09

Dang it! I just proved one of Specs4's points that you can make corrections and it'll cut down on correction posts. My last comment about becoming a poster was, of course, meant for Wurm.

Revolver 08 Dec 2011, 09:07

Specs4 & Dieter: agree with both of your comments in toto, and thanks for "beating the drum" to helpfully ensure all of us do become active there.

And in that vein, after giving us 14 wonderful years, you have a wealth of knowledge and hope you will be an active poster on the new forum.

specs4ever 08 Dec 2011, 08:02

I am getting to like the new site better and better all the time Dieter. If I don't want to post I can just click on it and see if anything new has been added without signing in. And I like the fact that you can read the posts without registering, but you have to sign in in order to post. Also, the ability to edit a post is nice - should make for a lot less "correction" posts.

And, while I haven't done it yet, it appears that you can set your preferences to show the newest posts first. I do know that you can click on new posts and it will only show new posts - but there hasn't been much activity recently. Guess everyone is waiting for the ball to drop.

Dieter 08 Dec 2011, 07:36


I agree and am looking forward to getting everyone back in the same place again. Its a hassle to watch both. As the new "eyescene" is a standard/typical "forum" style format, no one should fear it. I've been a member of several other forums, using the same format, for years and the benefits far exceed the extra overhead. You just have to work with it for a while to discover the shortcuts.

Specs4ever 08 Dec 2011, 07:09

Well, there are a few visitors going over to vision and specs at least. The first story I posted there in late September has had 663 visitors, and the last one I posted a couple of days ago has had 128 hits. So I am pretty sure that once this board is closed to new posts the visitor count there will increase nicely.

Astra 07 Dec 2011, 14:45


It was a pity, that the lens manufacturer placed these lenses as part of its advertisement of hi-index lenses.

I like the cross-section that has a lower ratio of thickness to height. I like the weight caused by thickness. almost crystalline. more distortion. simply alluring. especially if the rx gives good acuity to the nearsighted eyes.

Val 25 Nov 2011, 15:51

I appreciate your kind words and support.

Like Bobby said, the software is provided by They also provide internet hosting services and you can choose how much you want to pay / month to use their webspace and bandwidth. There is the 100% free option, but it's not recommended because the ads can be annoying. There is also a premium option, where you can upload your own software.

Note: they do not allow XXX on their servers. So i will delete any postings with XXX content.

The software offers a lot of possibilities: you can view only the forums with new messages if you want, you can edit anytime your own posts, you can send private messages or emails to the members and so on...

I wish you all a happy browsing.

Let Eyescene live forever,

Yours, Val

Revolver 25 Nov 2011, 11:16

Like everyone else, I offer kudos to Wurm for what he's done over the years, about 12 for me albeit rarely as a poster.

But OnLooker nailed it when he said it's up to us to make the new site what we want it to be. Let's forget about format even though I don't find it as user friendly as this one, and now concentrate on content. Eyescene is the medium, and we are the message. Again, thank you Wurm and now let's move on. Thank you Val, for making it possible.

Bobby 25 Nov 2011, 10:17

To Slit:

The system Vision-and-spex runs on is a whole complete package provided by The features of the system are described at their site. No html knowledge is needed to run it.

The structure Val have chosen is very simple. One layer of Forums, in each of which particular topics can be created to separate the threads, themes, stories etc. We decided to keep it as simple as possible by deleteing all subforums. So now there is only one layer of Forums. It is a very practical and useful feature as many people are going to read only their favourite forums/topics.

To Galileo:

You do not need to fill in anything but a nickname, some email address to confirm your registration, and choose a password. The password is very pactical, as in the new system no-one can pretend to be you. The moderators will see only the information you enter into your profile. We cannot see your IP. So, you do not need to be afraid of anything. BTW, are you sure about your other web activities (browsing, e-mailing, shopping, etc.) to be safe?

specs4ever 25 Nov 2011, 08:26

All I can say is that Val has done his best to set up a replacement place for us to go. Once you get used to the navigation it really isn't hard. And as far as the registration I registered using my "internet" credentials back when he first opened it, and had no problem.

So, for those that are unhappy, either step up to the plate and create what you want for a new site, or end your participation when this site shuts down at the end of the year.

And I am most thankful for Wurm having provided Eyescene for the last 16 years as a forum for us. The work was thankless, the time involved was all donated, and still he had people who complained. I can certainly understand him wanting to bow out and carry on with his life.

Slit 25 Nov 2011, 07:19

Hi Val,

Thanks for the response. As of now, I am also a very new beginner with HTML, with almost zero knowledge about php.

Over the next few months I am continuing to study web design, probably will be able to contribute more.

As of now, what you have done is wonderful. Keep up good work. Will try my best to provide some support.

Galileo 25 Nov 2011, 07:12

Hi Val, thank you for your efforts in setting up the new site. I will however be a lurker, the background privacy policies of the board provider do not fill me with confidence and the amount of personal information required by their registration system goes beyond what I'm prepared to give.

So thanks for setting it up, I will be a reader but not a member.

hooked 25 Nov 2011, 03:57

Why should vision-and-spex look like Eyescene?

IMHO content is more important than form.

Nonetheless I thank Wurm for this forum even if I'm not so active. But it is not the first web site I open, it's only the second. (The first one is a German forum about soccer where I'm a moderator.)

Val 25 Nov 2011, 01:34

I am the one that started vision-and-spex forum. I agree, it's a little hard to use, but, when I started it, it seemed so simple.

Wurm was kind enough to offer us nine months advance to start a new forum. Actually in the first three month nothing happened. We still have one and a half month before closure.

I don't know how to make vision-and-spex look like Eyescene. I can only reorganize the postings and the threads to be more accessible. Maybe one solution to the problem will be to create only one thread and all the postings will be under that thread. I am open to new ideas.

So please email me at

Slit 24 Nov 2011, 23:21

I must commend the excellent job of starting vision-and-spex at the time of closure of eyescene.

As I have mentioned before also, Eyescene has been a great place for us to interact and discuss, without being misunderstood. (some topics we discuss here will be too much fetish for many in our society.)

One of the most attractive features of ES technically was the ease of navigation, which is diffecult to achieve in bulletin board styled forums.

Is there a way to adopt the same ES model to the new site as well?

OnLooker 24 Nov 2011, 03:27

It's a shame that ES is shutting down, internet will never be the same again!! I hope the "new" place will be a good replacement...Ihave spent hours, days even, scrolling down threads, chatting about my favourite fantasm, GWGs and vision-glasses related matters!! Wurm; you gave us an awesome lot of pleasure and above all you contributed to the fact that we no longer feel lonely in this glasses fetishism.

All the best for the new place, i guess it's up to us all to make it as good as ES, let's take it as a challenge 0-0 people...

 23 Nov 2011, 22:18

Daffy - you registered at what new place?

A 'replacement' for EyeScene?

Trent 23 Nov 2011, 20:28

Wurm, Just want to say thanks for all you have done over the years. I'm a long time fan who has been checking in daily almost since the beginning. My hope is that you will not disappear from the 'scene' and will continue to post now and then. Bye for now Wurm.

daffy 23 Nov 2011, 07:20

just registered at the 'new' place. Just found out that this place is shuting did't see that coming. thanks all for the memories

chrisb 19 Nov 2011, 14:33


before you wave goodbye to us all, i wonder if you would mind emailing me privately for a brief chat about some aspects of the site and also some nostalgia.



 19 Nov 2011, 11:26

looks like a bunch of posts have been deleted again in some threads. what's going on?

nickwewymouth 10 Nov 2011, 14:52

to all are colonail cousins happy thanksgiving day

Revolver 08 Nov 2011, 08:40


That was a misspeak on my part in my earlier post on this thread about "yourself included", as you weren't. I considered it, but the story is about the posters and while you have posted, it's not really enough to profile you in a recognizable manner. The body of your fine work is on Bobby's site and perhaps not all of the posters have taken the time to read it.

Astra 07 Nov 2011, 23:16

Re: Slit 30 Oct 2011, 02:18

In retrospect, I usually visit Eyescene BBS for sharing photo links or experiences.

Thread Induced myopia ... there are different experiences of people who would like to induce myopia, so that I can be curious about various experience these people had.

Dieter 07 Nov 2011, 20:01


It seemed obvious who everyone was in your well written story. But I confess that I did not recognize myself. Help . . .

Revolver 06 Nov 2011, 08:58

Shekhar: the story was a bit of a parody on a few things, and a light hearted tribute to the many posters that have made ES such a success over the years. Garden Party was just the medium for the message. And as far as the ending, perhaps in your country you aren't deluged with ads on the telly about prescription drugs for erectile dysfunction. In the U.S. we are deluged, and each ad contains a disclaimer about the side effects of the drug,one of which is "see your doctor if you experience and erection lasting more than four hours".

As far as the characters, I have met 2 of them personally and corresponded with others, but the rest I could only try to glean a profile from their postings. And the line about "Yoko even brought her walrus" was directly from the song, spoofing Yoko Ono bringing her husband John Lennon.

Specs4: thank you, a kind word from the master is always appreciated.

specs4ever 05 Nov 2011, 18:19

Shekar, the theme of the story is based on a song from the 70's called Garden Party by Ricky Nelson. If you find it on youtube and listen to it you will probably understand the story better. I also liked your tale Revolver, and yes I did spot myself at the party.

shekhar 05 Nov 2011, 13:50

dear dieter and revolver.

to be very honest, i didn't understand what was so special in the story "garden party ". actually i m still confused that why that man was unconscious ? was he just dreaming certain things.. or something else .. end leaded to nothing..


Puffin 05 Nov 2011, 13:36

I have written two more stories "Fog of War" and "What Sally saw" - they need a bit of editing, though. They will be put on the new site soon hopefully.

Revolver 05 Nov 2011, 09:08

Dieter: coming from you, I consider that the highest possible compliment. I've not posted here but always read it, and am an aficionado of the stories on Bobby's site. Without question, your stories are the very best, each of them unique, well written, and entertaining so to receive a word of praise from such a fine author made my day. I've written many stories over the years and had one I was going to post prior to Garden Party but my flash drive crashed and I have to start over. If there's interest, will revive a few of the other ones. Thanks again.

P.S.: were you able to identify the ES posters that were in attendance at the Party, yourself included?

midnight 04 Nov 2011, 19:03

lets leave the discussion of religon out of this besides why should it be anyone elses buisness what god or power you worship fyi there were 2 types of celtic religions btw thats a fact jack and christians well i won't set myself up for a bad night lets just put it that way instead ill shake my head and walk away

Dieter 04 Nov 2011, 16:24


I just read your story "Garden Party" on Bobby's site. One word - brilliant!

Bobby's site updated 01 Nov 2011, 21:14

I have just updated my website with stories and moprhs of women with glasses.

nickwewymouth 31 Oct 2011, 11:22

thank you wurm being wiccan this is a very holly night for me

as foir genius yes you are right wiccan has been here for a long long time

any one disagreas ill turn them into a toad as if i could pmsl

Genius 31 Oct 2011, 09:26

and it's also well known that the Celts stole their festivals from even earlier times. So blah, blah, blah...

Wurm 31 Oct 2011, 08:38

You're off topic.

One of the differences between going on political or religious rambles down the pub and doing it online is that after a few pints everybody can vent their spleen and it's usually forgotten the next day. But online the post is still staring at everyone the next day so the bad feelings never clear.

Happy wild night of your choosing.

ehpc 31 Oct 2011, 07:25

Doubtless someone will say I am 'off-topic' (although in the last couple of months of 'EyeScene' perhaps we can relax that a little bit). Although I am a Scot I am not a Nationalist - however it is undeniable that the supression and repression of Celtic spirituality by Christianity is one of the great spiritual repressions of all time.

ehpc 31 Oct 2011, 07:17

'in order to serve...............'

ehpc 31 Oct 2011, 07:17

I am worthy of the greatest respect:) The Celtic Year is indeed interesting.All these Fectivals (including Xmas) were of course 'stolen' by Christianity, as we know, in Christianity's attempt to demolish all other religions, in to serve it's own propaganda.

nickwewymouth 31 Oct 2011, 06:43

in deed it is sir eve is when thew door between the worlds is weakest new found respect for you pete blessed be

ehpc 31 Oct 2011, 06:36

Good man. Strictly speaking, of course, Samhain is 1st November, but of course the 'eve' of Samhain is generally regarded as the most 'potent' time.

nickwewymouth 31 Oct 2011, 05:53

one knows that to the colonies this is halloween but to me and others thought id wish you all


Slit 30 Oct 2011, 02:18


Seconding Puffin, I would say this is one of the first 3 pages I open first every day, (other two being gmail and facebook!) and it has been the case for all this yrs. - in fact ES used to be the first page to open ever since 2001, when facebook was not even an idea in Zuckerbergs mind!

Over all these years I have enjoyed the virtual company of all like minded, and would love to let the spirit live on.

Look forward to continue the company in

Puffin 29 Oct 2011, 18:01

I too have visited daily almost since discovering this site so long ago, I think at least 10 years. It's going to be very strange not doing so. Like leaving a house you've lived in for a long time.

Hansel 29 Oct 2011, 15:23

As the thread, appropriately, has become an appreciation of Wurm's efforts over the years, I would add my own.

Wurm, the site has been one of my daily must visits.

Thank you for all your efforts as moderator/site owner etc etc over time. I have signed up to the new vision and spex site, but old habits die hard and I am sure it will take me a while longer to get into the habit of heading there instead of here.

Best wishes for the future.

Chris aka Hansel

Wurm 29 Oct 2011, 14:55

That's very kind Bobby. I'd like to take you up on that someday. If you visit the Western US I hope you'll drop me a note. Maybe we can get together.

And many thanks to you for your story and GOC site. I've visited many times and will continue to do so.

Bobby 29 Oct 2011, 12:38

Wurm, I want to express my thanks from the bottom of my heart for all those years you have been running this web site. I still remember the first day I came over this discussion and started reading. I am very appreciative for what you have done for all of us, and of course personally for myself. Your work has been amazing.

Thank you very very much my dear friend. If you ever travel to central Europe, do not hesitate do sent me an e-mail, I will send you my name, phone, and address. It would be an honor for me to meet you and to shake your hand. Anything I can do for you will be done.

Wurm 29 Oct 2011, 11:46

I think in a couple of weeks (mid-November) I'll delete the assorted link threads and put up a Nostalgia thread for reminiscences about ES and about your other glasses-related experiences over the years.

That thread and all the other discussion threads will stay up for posting through December and will then become read-only. I'll continue to link to the Vision and Spex board as long as it's a going concern.

Ben Franklin 21 Oct 2011, 08:19


Thanks for all your work. This forum rocked.

nickweymouth 18 Oct 2011, 15:52

well said uncle cactus

Cactus Jack 18 Oct 2011, 09:59

Typos are us today.


Cactus Jacl 18 Oct 2011, 09:57


ES has been a treasured old friend indeed to us all. Perhaps Val will create a place on Vision-and-Spex for Wurm and he will visit now and then. I think most of the ES members will migrate to V&S.


Leon 18 Oct 2011, 07:27

@Cactus Jack: I know, I know. And I will register. It's just that this website and Wurm have been such 'dear friends' for the past 10 years...

Cactus Jack 18 Oct 2011, 04:50


One nice thing about is that unlike Eyescene, you can edit out typos without doing a new post. Sigh up should be sign up in the previous post.


Cactus Jack 18 Oct 2011, 04:48


Don't be devastated. Wurm wants to move on to other adventures and he has certainly earned the right to do it.

He has passed the torch to

Check it out, sigh up, and help make it as good as Eyescene or even better.


Leon 18 Oct 2011, 04:00

Is EyeScene really closing? I'm devastated...

Jamie32 17 Oct 2011, 19:06

Eric and Lurker,

Unfortunately I think some of us who write gay men and glasses stories have kinda lost some enthusiasm as we didn't know there was really any audience for those stories anymore:( Seeing your responses makes me think there may be such an audience there, so it make get me into writing some again.

If you want to chat more about this, jump over to the new forum and then we can chat about it:)

nickweymouth 17 Oct 2011, 18:10

hi puffin great storie mate

Puffin 17 Oct 2011, 17:20

I am not certain I could write anything to do the subject justice. Like all writers I write from what I know, with a bit of SF and fantasy thrown in (where you are free to make your own rules, as long as they make some sort of sense).

Being a hetrosexual male, I find writing from that perspective easier. I think can do it from a lesbian's viewpoint, since what we are both looking at is the same thing, although we probably thinking somewhat different things about what we see. When it comes to considering gay males, I freely admit I have got absolutely no experience of that - I personally have never known any gay men - or perhaps they were and didn't say. I wouldn't want to take a story and change the sex of the characters, that seems a false and fake way to do it.

Admittedly I do write from the perspective of a teenage girl in "Dear Diary" but I have known enough of them, I think, to say something vaguely sensible.

There's nothing to stop anyone writing anything, as far as I know.

lurker 17 Oct 2011, 14:09

I agree, where are the male gay stories at my all time favorite is the "Weird" one. Now thats my type of story.

Puffin 16 Oct 2011, 14:07

dammit, I thought I had caught all the typos!

Puffin 16 Oct 2011, 14:04

I have just posted my new story "The Rampant Horse" on the new site.

Eric 16 Oct 2011, 12:16

how come there are a lack of gay male stories =/ Ive been dying to read some NEW strories, or stories from the past that arent posted.

All4Eyes 15 Oct 2011, 23:18

I've just registered over at the "new Eyescene", still keeping my same nickname. I do think it's kind of nice that there's a fantasy thread over there, I know we have other sites for those stories (thank you, Bobby!), but that has always been one of the things I missed about the "original Eyescene".

Puffin 15 Oct 2011, 21:01

Just to warn anyone out there who might possibly be interested, I have just completed a story entitled "the Rampant Horse" - a tale of darts, myopia and misunderstandings. It needs a bit of editing and spell checking, and will be posted up on the new site soon.

Puffin 15 Oct 2011, 21:01

Just to warn anyone out there who might possibly be interested, I have just completed a story entitled "the Rampant Horse" - a tale of darts, myopia and misunderstandings. It needs a bit of editing and spell checking, and will be posted up on the new site soon.

Crystal Veil 15 Oct 2011, 07:17

Talking about editing of stories - my first story ever will be posted on my weblog soon.

Puffin 15 Oct 2011, 04:08

Hello Midnight, I just sent you a copy.

midnight 15 Oct 2011, 01:35

puffin i like the old version have always enjoyed your stories email is i would so love a copy of this story you have sent it to me before but i lost it when my last computer broke ill be sure to save it this time

Puffin 14 Oct 2011, 19:51

Midnight, that sounds like an old story of mine, "Crime and Punishment". I have it on file here, but the text needs editing before I could put it up for public viewing.

(it's in a old html file - a bit of a mess).

To be honest I'm not sure I want to put all my old stories up again, some are better than others, I might want to rewrite this one and I don't have much time at the moment, any time I do have is put towards new stories.

if you really want it though, I can email it.

Soundmanpt 14 Oct 2011, 15:27

That goes for me as well. A great job! But I am sure your ready for a much needed rest? Enjoy life.

I only hope I can used to the new one. It looks much different.

midnight 14 Oct 2011, 15:26

before this shuts down i will try 1 more time i am looking for a story 1 in particular it is of a women who goes to jail but is offered a alternate prison sentence of poor vision i believe the author is puffin and would very much appreciate and be thankful for any assistance in said matter if not i would just like to say thank you to the senior members of this site for makeing me feel that maybe i am not as strange as i thought i was in high school you made an awkward kid feel accepted i am very sad that this is ending but excited to explore other horizonz best of luck to our site admins and forum moderators

Glasses Lover 14 Oct 2011, 13:33


You've been an excellent moderator and overseer of this site.

All I can offer is my thanks.

Wurm 14 Oct 2011, 11:15

Bobby has a collection of Eddy's tales over at his site:

Chopra 14 Oct 2011, 00:13

Did anybody ever collect Eddy's postings? Over the years I don't think there was anybody else who could make me roar laughing more consistently.

Flaine 13 Oct 2011, 18:52

Never really visit this thread before but really sad to see that eyescene would be closed..i really hope we all can continue this glasses topic over at the 'new eyescene' once this once shuts down? Anyways thanks to the owners of this site! Really pearnt alot about vision and stuff from reading those long threads! Sorry that this has to happen!!

Puffin 13 Oct 2011, 16:03

Perhaps in the last month or so, certain selected threads could have further postings turned off (perhaps "seen on the web", "post your prescription", etc) - or perhaps the last couple of weeks - with a pointer to the new website, during the wind-down process and encourage some traffic over there. It's going to have to happen, it can either happen gradually or all at once.

I am also trying to post anything new or significant over there only. Perhaps others could do the same.

Clare 13 Oct 2011, 15:14

Wurm - sorry to hear that Eyescene is closing down. I can't believe I first found it 10 years ago and how much I've learned about vision and glasses since then. So, thanks for that and all the dedication you've provided to keep it running. I'll be sorry to see it disappear.

I, Glasses 13 Oct 2011, 11:35

Well, maybe I need some eye-glasses.

Julian 13 Oct 2011, 10:50

I, Glasses: the URL of the new site is right at the top of the EyeScene front page - what more do you want?

Cactus Jack 13 Oct 2011, 08:32

"New Eyescene" URL is

I, Glasses 13 Oct 2011, 08:07

What is the URL of the 'new Eyescene' again, please?

Could a link be posted in a permanent place at the top of the 'threads by most recent post' page? Thanks.

specs4ever 13 Oct 2011, 06:51

I posted the following message over on the new Eyescene, but after I did I realized that over there I was preaching to the folks that have dropped by the new site. The people I really want to reach are those that haven't registered, nor have they tried to use the new message board.

I have been visiting here at least once a day, and posting whenever I feel I have something to add. I have been hoping that many of the other people from eyescene would gradually start to gravitate to this site. I don't want to see Eyescene close down, but it is going by the wayside by the end of 2011. It seems as if this fact has not sunk in to many of the others, but it is going to happen folks. To me it seems that since Val has provided this site, which he is paying for out of his own pocket, the least we can do is support him with some activity.

So, I suppose that it will actually take the closing of Eyescene to bring people on board. The day that eyescene closes people will be dragged here kicking and screaming, and there will be all sorts of complaints about how Eyescene was so much better, and easier to use and so on

As I say, I have been dropping in here at least daily, and I have taken the time to learn how to navigate around a new site. It is a little bit harder, but I certainly appreciate what Val has done.

Wurm 07 Oct 2011, 19:04

Some sort of farewell/nostalgia thread would be in order.

I guess I did most of the heavy lifting so I'll try to be the gracious recipient of whatever comes my way. But I hope we can also remember some of the great posts and happenings over the years such as Eddy's stories, the meetups in Vegas, etc.

minus 5 who luvs gwgs 07 Oct 2011, 13:28

Thanks for everything the site is fantastic

Galileo 07 Oct 2011, 12:36

I've been thinking that as Wurm intends to leave the threads up to view maybe he could start a Testimonials thread about a month before Eyescene closes and we could all leave our thanks there in one place. What do you think Chris?

nickweymouth 07 Oct 2011, 11:45

may one add to this thread and add my thanks to mr wurm i didnt always talk but visited every day may i wish everyone freinds and enemies all the ebst may the godess walk with you all

blessed be Nick

Soundmanpt 07 Oct 2011, 11:36


Like you i think we all will miss this site. I know I will, it has become big part of my life. Thanks for the kind words.

Let's hope other sites will be around soon and that Val's works well for us all.

Millhouse 07 Oct 2011, 10:14

- Wurm,

As others have said, Thanks for the use of the site over the years- I have to admit to being a bit of a lurker with the odd bit of posting etc, just me I guess. I hope all goes well with you.

C Jack, thanks for you advice (some time ago now) regarding prescriptions and adjusting to being a full time wearer with a high(ish) rx.

Soundmanpt, Filthy MCnasty, Astra, Val, Crystal Veil (my hero) and many others over the months, thank you all for your input and other intersting sightings, caps, stories, comments. Good karma to you all.

Val 26 Sep 2011, 13:56

Julian, please try to register again. There is no user name Julian between the 48 names registered.

Julian 26 Sep 2011, 08:51

Lucky old you! Every time I try to log in I get a message saying "You have specified an incorrect username" I hope this new board gets off the ground OK, but it isn't looking very promising so far.

myopeinher 26 Sep 2011, 05:20

Sorted,now joined,thanks

Val 26 Sep 2011, 00:09

I am sorry the many troubles you've had with the registration.

I've removed the need for activation. I've also activated the new accounts: soundmanapt, myopeinhere, specs4me, johny555us...

Please try to login with your own passwords and if you still encounter troubles we will fix it also.

myopeinhere 25 Sep 2011, 17:40

still nothing,i used

Julian 25 Sep 2011, 16:20

I've had the same experience as Myopeinhere. Is it possible there's a flaw in the registration process?

Love and kisses, Jules.


Spexy guys ares sexy guys

Val 25 Sep 2011, 14:40

Myopeinhere, i've resent the activation mail.

I don't know if you want me to write in here the email address you used when you registered the forum.

My email is, if you still need help, please email me.

myopeinhere 25 Sep 2011, 14:27

nah,and checked junk and spam folders

still 25 Sep 2011, 13:57

Myopinhere - Didn't they e-mail it to you?

myopeinhere 25 Sep 2011, 12:50

Tried to join Vals site,but my activation link never appeared????

Puffin 25 Sep 2011, 10:41

I just posted a question on Val's board about what was it like to get your first glasses. No doubt we have talked about this before, if anyone wants to talk about that or anything else to do with glasses, then they are invited to do so there as well as here.

Hoping we can have more than just posting up pics found on the net.

Melyssa 25 Sep 2011, 09:51

The Glasses Girl is now an official member of the new version of Eyescene, I do hope it provides as much enjoyment and knowledge as I have had on this website for the past 7.5 years.

Val 25 Sep 2011, 04:23

Thank you Wurm for posting a link to the new forum. I don't want to say "my forum" because I don't consider it mine. I only started it.

A few ours ago, there were 19 user names registered, but some of them were not activated.

If someone encounters some troubles, please email me at we will sort it out.

Puffin 24 Sep 2011, 11:06

I just signed up on Val's new Eyescene board. There's a bit of advertising but apart from that it seems okay, just a case of getting used to it. We're going to have to go somewhere, so why not go there?

nickweymouth 24 Sep 2011, 09:29

hello ive just joined the nerw forumthank you

and wurm best of in everything you do sir

Specs4ever 24 Sep 2011, 09:02

I see that there are now 15 registered members over at the new site. It will take time, but I hope that enough other people register so that we can have it up and running before the end of the year.

I will be very sad to see the end of Eyescene, and I would like to thank Wurm for all his efforts over the past 15 years.

Wurm 23 Sep 2011, 21:07

Good idea Puffin. I've linked Val's forum from the front page.

Puffin 23 Sep 2011, 18:39

Perhaps any new successor sites could be linked to the front page of this one? It will give them a chance to get off the ground. And if one is really good, people will use it just as this one is used.

Slit 23 Sep 2011, 13:00

Thanks Val for great work, good initiative!

Wurm: we always admire your commitment so far to this community, and look forward to have your engagement on new version of ES too...

Unfortunately I do not have a capability to website development, otherwise could have made some contribution. :(

Wurm 23 Sep 2011, 10:05

Don't forget to try Val's new ES at

Glasses Lover, I'm not going to continue as the "boss" of ES. It's time for me to turn the page. But I've made myself available to help out anyone who would like to continue it, or something like it.

Glasses Lover 23 Sep 2011, 08:46

Hey, Mr Wurm... any chance at reconsidering?

Laulau_Fr 23 Sep 2011, 07:38


I read the site to be closed in December 2011.

This site is a wealth of information for us all.

We must do something

I propose that I create a forum containing the same items we have in eyescene

following me?

My mail:

Wurm 23 Sep 2011, 05:09

Thanks for using the site and for those very kind thoughts!

Mister Roberts 22 Sep 2011, 23:47

I will miss this very much. Thank you to Wurm for your dedication to this site. As a long time lurker and occasional poster. I will miss this as an important part of my journey through the glasses oriented part of my life. Thanks dear freind for all the enjoyment you have given us over the years.

Wurm 22 Sep 2011, 19:25

Hi Crystal Veil,

Thanks for your nice post. I'll certainly be visiting your photo blog. It's a wonderful project and I find something to enjoy about every shoot.

Crystal Veil 22 Sep 2011, 17:37

Hi Wurm,

three months to go before the curtain falls - I fully understand and respect your motives but the world will be a poorer place without ES. I am sorry for being unable to be of any assiatance in a follow-up. This requires a younger person who knows the modern media. Do keep in touch in 2012, you know where to contact me.

Wurm 21 Sep 2011, 21:02

Hi geist,

Thanks for your interest. I'm still planning to close ES to posting at the end of December. I'll leave the threads up as an archive and perhaps retains some sort of guestbook functionality so people can exchange contact info and post here if new forums start up.

Bobby 21 Sep 2011, 18:17

If I get any stories there will be the October update. As Crystal Veil made his fantastic update this month, so I did not ask S4E for any stories.

geist 21 Sep 2011, 18:10

Late September, any update on the shutdown?

Bobby updated 26 Aug 2011, 02:16

I have updted the story website. 2 stories by Specs4ever and 2 morphs by myself.

Sorry for the delay, I was very busy and very stressed, so this had to wait ...

Bobby 18 Jul 2011, 14:06

I think it is a teenager. It is probably raining in his country and his parents do not have money to go to the sea with him, so he is trying to kil the time. Let us ignore him.

lentifan 18 Jul 2011, 14:04

These malicious postings by 'Rejecting the Ban', whoever that is, are really just acts of vandalism. Evidence of a juvenile and possibly warped mind.

Rejecting The Ban 18 Jul 2011, 13:52

Wurm, enjoy your power of autocratic banning (and deleting)! Let's start with n

Rejecting The Ban 18 Jul 2011, 13:51

Wurm, enjoy your power of autocratic banning (and deleting)! Let's start with n

Rejecting The Ban 18 Jul 2011, 13:49

Wurm, enjoy your power of autocratic banning (and deleting)! Let's start with n

bigO 12 Jul 2011, 14:32

I have been reading ES since the earliest days when it was all just a single page thread. Maybe some may even remember me. I haven't posted for a long time though but I am sad to see what -- to me -- is a piece of Internet history fall by the wayside. I know what running a site is like and I commend Wurm for having the will to run this one so well for so long. The Internet is fast becoming all the things we didn't want it to be and this kind of website is one of the few "oldskool" places where those changes have not occurred. I for one, will miss this place when it goes.

ehpc 08 Jul 2011, 17:20

Fantastic, Val :) Pete

Val 08 Jul 2011, 15:41

Thank you Wurm, for letting us use the name Eyescene.

Emphasis on "us".

The first time I've read about Eyescene's closing I was very sad, because, like most readers here, it is the first site I go to when I open the computer every day. And it's been like that for almost 11 years already.

And, like many others in here, I stumbled upon Eyescene google-ing about glasses.

The second variant of Eyescene was the first one for me. And the threads were moderated by people like Julian and others. And we can do it again today. Thank you Slit for offering to do some moderation.

And thank you all for the support.

My email is, so I'm expecting emails from anybody who wants to help.

Soundmanpt 08 Jul 2011, 12:05

I think most people would be happy to see something they created continue on. And now seeing Wurm say he has no problem with that either that should be the end of it. Val I wish you the best in this effort.

Specs4ever 08 Jul 2011, 11:43

Actually Val, Wurm has said that he would be willing to have someone take over Eyescene as it is. If there were changes to be done, I am certain that this could also be done by anyone who took it over. You should contact Wurm and see if the two of you can work something out.

Puffin 08 Jul 2011, 11:15

Perhaps we should have a poll, if this isn't one already.

Personally I don't mind what it's called, it's the content that's important.

matthewson 08 Jul 2011, 11:14

the name should live on - everyone of us know, the original eyescene is, was and will be wurm's, which we'll always appreciate - but things go on, it´s a perfect name for the whole thing and it's showing respect to the original eyecene.

my two myopic cents.

Wurm 08 Jul 2011, 10:32

Hi Val,

I appreciate that you're going to give it a try.

I think using the name is OK. It's the kind of thing that should sort itself out naturally. If your forum gets popular, that's great. If it doesn't, then using the name doesn't really pose any threat to others who might want to claim it.

Slit 08 Jul 2011, 07:55

hi all,

being another 10yr+ member of ES, would like to drop a line on closure.

first and foremost, it will be a sad news if this happens. ES used to be the first page i visit every time i come home after a long long day, and when i was travelling abroad there had been times i spend extra bucks to take a look at the site once in a while...

i understand the situation going on. there is a big time difficulty in managing the site with some annoying / undisciplined people.

if ever we move to a new forum model, i would like to help out in any way that i can, although i am not a technical expert. may be forum moderation is something i can do.

re: annoying posters: we should be strict about them. if there is a way to track IP addresses, we can block such IPs.

ehpc 08 Jul 2011, 07:46

That is a matter for Wurm to decide. He might be very pleased to 'bequeath' the site name. Don't attack Val's thoughtful efforts:) I for one appreciate them, Val.

Puffin 08 Jul 2011, 04:14

No reason why you can't call it something else.

Tulip 08 Jul 2011, 02:14

To Val.

To me this would be like a stab in the back. Wurm IS eyescene and you're not. So don't!

Val 08 Jul 2011, 01:10

@Wurm: If someone will start a new forum like Eyescene, will you agree to let him use the name Eyescene for the new site ?

I don't have any experience in managing sites, but I think I can learn.

I started a forum as a test.

If you don't agree with this, I will delete the forum.

Crystal Veil 07 Jul 2011, 17:05

Spot on, YoYo, you are absolutely right - but I feel sympathy towards VFL, I understand his sorrow.

When I first saw a picture of my partner on a dating site, I sat rooted to the spot. I noticed that she was in glasses but it was the look in her eyes that did it. Almost aloof, a bit uneasy, but with a sort of pride as well, the look of a woman who had lived an intense life without losing her grip of things. In other words, stability. I decided to wait 24 hours and to have another look at the picture and then contact her if she'd have the same impact on me. And she did.... So I sent her an email with a big compliment, really expecting nothing at all, not even a reject. No answer came, so I started dating other women (all in glasses), great dates, but something kept withdrawing me. Ten days later I received an email and boy, it was her - sending me a message that she was honoured and suggesting a place & time for a date, her motto was "surprise me!". I was clearly an outsider from her point of view. When we saw eachother from a distance for the first time, I spread my armes, walked towards her, gave her a big hug and simply said, "You really exist - and I'm so happy to see you!". This may sound as a carte blanche and in some ways it was - so much to be "filled in" but my simple basic feeling came through and this soon lead to a relation which is still going strong after three years. I only later noticed that her glasses were twice as strong as expected, but that was merely a bonus. Some of the aloof feel of the first picture was caused by the -11 lenses in her glasses. Needless to say, I would have stepped out very soon if there had been serious alarm signals. I love her as a person, as a woman, and I like the bonus of her strong glasses - but in that order!

VFL - there are plenty of fish in the sea, high myopic or just very mild.... I wish you luck!

Millhouse 07 Jul 2011, 12:44

VHL- Im sure we are all with you on that! Long live GWG. You'll be ok, move on, get out there, make friends. If it helps i do undestand how you feel, and as an O^O myself let me say i am also single and 'in the same boat' be cool mate and coolamondoe as the fonz says!

Yoyo 07 Jul 2011, 12:41

Yes, while I'll always enjoy looking at women in glasses, IMO it's the kind of thing you have to be willing to put aside in the search for a romantic companion. My long-term girlfriend (who I'm very happy with) only wears weak minus glasses occasionally (to watch movies, etc.), and the glasses are not at all the reason I'm attracted to her.

Glasses are objects, often nice to look at, but they are not a replacement for personality.

VFL 07 Jul 2011, 11:35

What happened is I gave to much to someone who was unworthy. The glasses is what pulled me in and kept me in. The relationship ended very badly and once again I am kicking myself for being so stupid. When will I ever learn? I have discussed this with professionals and even though I intellectually know what is happenening with me, I have never been able to resist the pull of the lenses. Ah well, live and learn and try to do better next time.

Thank you all for coming to my side. I am just glad that I am not alone in my love of the lens.

Bob 07 Jul 2011, 00:12

I hate to think this site may be coming to an end. It has been a part of my daily routine since I first stumbled across Eye Scene in 1998. At that time it was the single topic polls and I thought it was fascinating. The night I discovered Eye Scene I stayed up until 5 a.m. reading all of the previous polls. For old times sake, over the weekend I looked up those old polls in the archives and once again had a great time reading the posts and remembering some of my favorite characters. I particularly enjoyed reading the stories from different people about their experiences wearing glasses, even the ones that appeared to be fake. Rather that getting rid of Eye Scene all together I wish there was a way to go back to a simpler site, like those single topic polls.

Galileo 05 Jul 2011, 14:09

VFL - been there too, she held me in a spell for over a year then I realised there were things behind the strong high index lenses which I would not be able to live with for the rest of my life and I ended it. And it hurt like hell almost as long.

Deep breathing and your favourite alcoholic drink. Good luck!

Puffin 05 Jul 2011, 11:13

Well, at least it's over. It's not going to get any worse, is it? Move on older and wiser, better luck next time, etc.

GL (slight return) 05 Jul 2011, 10:53


You want advice, just ask. Been there, done that.

guest 05 Jul 2011, 10:50

VFL: Could have been worse if she had ended it . . .

Try this:

Take all the money you would have spent on her for the next 6 months.

Buy a nice pair of women's glasses on-line. Make sure to add 5 to 10 more diopters than hers onto the lenses.

Have sex (even if you have to pay for it) with many different women wearing this pair of glasses. Make sure that they are as equally if not more attractive than her.

She'll be a faded memory and you'll be too spent to care.

Wurm 05 Jul 2011, 09:50

What's the crisis (aside from the expected bummed-out feeling of ending a relationship)?

ehpc 05 Jul 2011, 07:07

What can we do, wonderful VFL ? :)

VFL 05 Jul 2011, 02:29

Please help me. I have ended a relationship with a person whose glassses sucked me in and am in the middle of a crisis. I am more or a lurker than a poster, but, plese, help me now. VFL

Filthy McNasty 04 Jul 2011, 23:37

Julian, NJ: I have some thoughts on the demise of the site and what might be done about it.. Would you be interested in discussing? If so, let's discuss. You know my email, and if you have forgotten it, I hope Wurm will be so kind as to give it to you.

nickweymouth 04 Jul 2011, 14:36

as a fellow from across the pond may one wish all my colonial freinds a very happy Independence day

Bobby 03 Jul 2011, 15:28


What do you mean by "collision"? Do you mean connecting? No way, I am not any expert in programing interactive websites.

Krieger 01 Jul 2011, 14:41

I guess the new google+ might be of assistance since it would allow each member the creation of circles and you could create one with Optical Obsessive individuals to share thoughts, links, interests, stories and so on. Unfortunately it is now on a beta version and you can join only by invite.

John S 01 Jul 2011, 13:58


Google just gives access to the newsgroups from a web browser. The "newsgroups" are actually Usenet. Usenet is usually accessed using a client such as Forte Agent. Since most people using the internet did not know what Usenet was, and if they did, they did not know how to use it. Google decided to develop an web based interface/archive.

I know several people that would be clueless if they wanted to get Usenet without Google groups.

I would be glad to donate hosting space, but I am not savvy when it comes to BBS software. I hate to see Eyescene go away, I have enjoyed hanging around here for about 10 years.

Obsessed 01 Jul 2011, 13:27

Hmmmm... I can't understand why this is shutting down... Is there anything that can be done? Think free forum engines. Or it is a hosting-related problem?

Sorry if I wrote something that's out-of-line. I just can't figure out why the discussions are about to be shut down.

Dave 01 Jul 2011, 09:21

I may be missing something, but is it really decided to shut this forum?

Why not simply move all further discussion to what used to be "news" and is now called Google groups?

Wurm: thanks for the kind words.

midnight 30 Jun 2011, 23:12

Bobby how about a collision of both sites you seem to be more then a qualified candidate and 2 see them both together would be amazing I would of course be willing to help in any way I possibly can this place does not have to die

Bobby 30 Jun 2011, 02:53

When? When will the bad thing happen?

I hate reading this thread. Eyescene has been a part of my life for many years. When Eyescene is down, where shall we meet and talk? If anybody has any good, positive, constructive, idea for the future, feel free sending me an e-mail (

Wurm 29 Jun 2011, 14:50

I'm still thinking about that, LG. My provisional plan is to leave the discussion threads up but with a little explanatory note in place of the posting link. The link threads would be deleted.

I'd leave the door open for anyone who would like to revive or continue the site down the road, probably by just leaving my email address somewhere. Someone who is just a kid now could find this material years later and have the sort of revelatory experience that tends to be a common theme in feedback I've received over the years.

LikeGlass 29 Jun 2011, 13:29


What becomes of this site once shut down? By that I mean, will you leave it frozen with posting disabled, or actually clear the server? I may be in the minority, but I often find myself scanning way back through threads to find some piece of information, name, or link from years ago. It would be a shame to have such a database lost to all time! Still, from the user's end it is very hard make an effective archive copy. It would be wonderful if there was a way to make a zip database for us old-timers to download, but I suspect the time commitment would score low on your priority list. Possibly a small Perl wedge that could automate the process may be less of a time commitment. Just some thoughts...

Wurm 28 Jun 2011, 10:26

Hi Dave,

Sorry your constructive suggestion was deleted. I'm glad you re-posted it.

When I delete a large group of posts due to a flame war erupting, I usually don't weed out the more benign posts.

I think we'd need a proper registration system to create an 'ignore' feature like that. I've considered that, but given the short timeline the site is on now it's probably unlikely. Good suggestion though.

Dave 28 Jun 2011, 09:09

Well, just noticed that a post of mine, in which I suggested to add an option for readers to mark certain posters as invisible, was erased.

This is not the first time benign posts were erased. My small desire to post, breaking the 5-7 monopoly, diminished.


Glasses Lover 28 Jun 2011, 07:39

My ship from the home world has just landed. I've had enough. I'm going home.

You humans fight too much.


Melyssa 28 Jun 2011, 06:30

I won't lend him mine, as I want to see how beautiful I look in all of my gaw-juss glasses. And he wouldn't know what to do with the rest of the compact. :)

Puffin 27 Jun 2011, 18:00

I can lend him one of mine, got three at least.

ehpc 27 Jun 2011, 17:27

Oh dear :)

123 BANG 27 Jun 2011, 15:51

someone give ehcp a mirror please?

Lindwurm 27 Jun 2011, 15:12

post deleted - banned user

ehpc 27 Jun 2011, 12:20

Certainly not, old chap :)

 27 Jun 2011, 10:50

Glad u aren't flaming ehcp LOLOL

Astra 27 Jun 2011, 07:35

Most of us are doing their best to welcome new users.

We would like you to have a look at other threads .

Eyescene BBS has more than discussion you referred to

Re: 26 Jun 2011, 13:30

"Unfortunately the discussion encapsulated how Eyescene is no longer the "welcome" place it used to be, and you are making the right decision shutting it down."

ehpc 27 Jun 2011, 06:01

Simple immaturity, Tim :)Her phrase 'man up' is telling. She isn't herself mature enough to be able tell the difference between an adult, carefully-reasoned post and a 'flame war'.

ehpc 27 Jun 2011, 05:55

Frankly, Susan, you are talking rubbish.My posts were carefully-reasoned and carefully expresssed. It is the sort of one-sentence no-brain abusive posts like yours which are so childish and which constitute what people call 'flame wars'.

Tim 26 Jun 2011, 23:56

Susan I - I have hitherto refrained from getting involved in this row, but why oh why are you being so deliberately unpleasant and provocative?

Susan I 26 Jun 2011, 18:52

yes, it was a flame war, ehpc. and yes you were part of it. man up, ok?

ehpc 26 Jun 2011, 14:48

I hope Susan 1 has not been 'scared off'. Although I don't share her 'take' on things, it made interesting reading.

ehpc 26 Jun 2011, 14:43

No 'flame war' from me:) But we did go 'off-topic'.

 26 Jun 2011, 14:28

post deleted - banned user

 26 Jun 2011, 13:30

Thanks, Wurm. The immature back and forth playground antics on all sides had become a bore. Unfortunately the discussion encapsulated how Eyescene is no longer the "welcome" place it used to be, and you are making the right decision shutting it down.

Cactus Jack 26 Jun 2011, 13:10


Thank you. It is interesting how off topic flaming activity on one thread seems to "chill" on topic activity on the other threads.


Wurm 26 Jun 2011, 10:40

I've deleted multiple posts as this discussion has deteriorated into an off-topic flame war.

Puffin 25 Jun 2011, 16:22

I just don't see what can be deduced about a responder simply from frequency or amount of posting on a web forum. Why automatically conclude they are arrogant or egotistical in the absence of other available evidence? It's what's called in the logical-argument trade "a non-sequitur" - meaning "it does not follow".

At this rate we'll be debating Russell's Teapot.

Soundmanpt 25 Jun 2011, 16:00

Here is what I don't seem to get. By your count you say there are 5 - 7 of us that rule the boards and no one else gets a chance to speak. That is completely not true. Does it matter if your the first to answer or reply to someone or if 3 rd or 8th? I have several times backing a comment made by others to reenforce the answer given if I agreed with it. To may way of thinking that should make the person asking for information feel better the more that confirm an answer. Several times someone has also backed an answer I have given. I have no problem at all if someone does not agree with something I have said or has a different opinion than I do to replay as such. Is that not what an OPEN forum is all about? You have said you have been under attack, not by me I made one reply untill now I don't think anyone would call this an attack at you or anyone. I think we all welcome as many that wish to reply to do so. So far you seem to only be making an argument for others that may or may not exist out there. I will say again there is no reason that others can't or shouldn't respond if they wish to contribute, don't blame me or the so called other 4 -6 whoever they maybe. By the way someone said I should "man-up" I think I have by admitting to be one of the dreaded 5 - 7. I know I am without a doubt one of the 5 - 7 referred to.

All the replies I have ever given is only meant to be helpful and if you go back you will find more than once that I have stated I am not a doctor. Not sure how much clearer I can be? If doctor ever does pop-up in here I wonder if he /she would get the same treatment only because someone wants to be first? I for one would love to see a doctor come on board, I think it would be a great addition to the forum. You should feel the same way, but who knows?

Puffin 25 Jun 2011, 15:37

Please tell us how you know that because someone answers regularly to queries, that they are assuming nobody else knows and consider themselves superior and thus could be rightly labelled as arrogant and egotistical.

 25 Jun 2011, 15:32

Susan I said

"Are you saying it is not an arrogant view by those posters to assume no one else but them has the correct answers"

How do you know they are assuming that? They might just think "I need to help" - who knows? Evidence behind these accusations and assumptions, please?

Puffin 25 Jun 2011, 15:30

And no, you did not ask the "Student" to sit back, you called them arrogant and egotistical. Not the same, really.

Puffin 25 Jun 2011, 15:29

Oops, I one person's opinion has no more intrinsic value than anyone else, unless backed up by proof of some sort.

Puffin 25 Jun 2011, 15:28

If we are talking inaccurate analogies, then "student in class" is inaccurate too. There are people here asking questions and looking for answers without worrying too much who the responders are, the people here are not necessarily looking to learn but more likely to share knowledge not known to others, regular posters or not. That's not the same as a "student in class" situation where we have a single font of knowledge.

As far as I can see I can see no evidence offered to support your assumptions or allegations, despite repeated invitations from me to provide or point at such. Without that they remain opinions, you're allowed to have them but they don't have anyone elses.

Susan I 25 Jun 2011, 15:03

@Puffin. I must correct your inaccurate analogy. By the way, I would hope no one ever comes to a glasses fetish board seeking medical advice which should be more appropriately given out by a doctor. I don't think anyone here should presume Eyescene can offer that same level of assistance at all. I have never seen anyone requesting immediate urgent assistance either, and if they did need that, again, they should seek a real doctor's advice, never trust an eye fetish forum.

You seem to take an odd stance on vilification. You forget about the student in a class who keeps raising his hand with the answer just because he is louder and faster than everyone else and it doesn't give others a chance to participate. Are you calling it "vilification" of the student if we ask that student to sit back and let others take a chance at answering the questions? Even for a little while? Are you saying it is not an arrogant view by those posters to assume no one else but them has the correct answers?

Now how should we react if a Student Advisor coming into the classroom observes the bold student's behavior and suggests he give others an opportunity to answer? Is it appropriate for that student to viciously attack the Student Advisor for daring to offer up that opinion? For challenging what he feels is his absolute constitutional right of dominance because it is an open forum?

Try looking at things from a different perspective. You might see something very interesting once in awhile.

ehpc 25 Jun 2011, 14:55

saying your 'piece' of course................

Puffin 25 Jun 2011, 14:37

The other thing is, it is entirely possible that a poster looking for help with a prescription will be nervous or uncertain, and will more likely accept and trust advice from someone who has offered up advice many times before, and seems to know what they're talking about, rather than a responder they've never seen before. Would they then call the regular responder "arrogant" or "egotistical",

regardless of the answer, and then wait for someone never seen posting here ever before to answer? That seems unlikely.

It is as if when you go to a doctor in a surgery, you go in with some complaint (say, suspected cancer) and demand to see the most recently qualified doctor on the premises, preferably one just arrived from medical school, just so you can encourage him along his career path and he doesn't give up medicine, but when other doctors who are much more experienced offer to help, you bat them away with accusations of being in a selfish, tight-knit clique, being arrogant, and suggesting they are egotistical for for not giving the freshman a chance to pronounce a verdict (right or wrong) first.

Personally I'd go to the one who more obviously has seen the most and knows the most. I wouldn't care that much about the career or ego of whoever did the advising. I'd be caring far more about the accuracy of the advice. I certainly wouldn't go in there accusing all the other doctors of all sorts of nefarious motives for offering their advice. Of course none of us here are doctors (as far as I know), but the analogy is not invalid.

Puffin 25 Jun 2011, 14:07

That's fair enough. Admittedly I usually only read the "New Glasses/Post your Prescription" ie "help, I have a prescription, what does it mean?" - and occasionally dip into the threads containing basically idle chit-chat about glasses, I don't read every last post - but I can't recall ever seeing any "new posters" here explicitly or implicitly told they're wrong or wasting their time. If you can point at some instances, why not do so?

Perhaps we are a tight-knit bunch because over the last couple of years we've every so often had some disruptive people appearing telling us we are wrong, we are perverts, we shouldn't be looking at pictures, etc etc, without any real reason why, other than they have their own pre-judged opinion and disagree with what we are about here. That does not imply that we are trying to exclude others who might broadly agree with the purpose of the board (ie, talking about glasses).

Perhaps the reason for the personal attacks on you is that some of those who have supplied much help and information in the past have been suddenly vilified for doing so, and told they must not do so because some supposed silent lurkers are out there desperate to post but unable to do so because someone else has answered first. I don't know, but I think if someone called me "arrogant" or "unfriendly", I would at least need to know why other than the stating and restating of an opinion, especially if all were doing was trying to help.

It is all very well talking about group theory, as if we have a clique of people who don't want to share, but who decides that we have such a thing here? As far as I am aware, this site is here to spread the idea that glasses are good and acceptable and don't detract from attractiveness. This "mission" can't have changed, because every so often new posters appear and nobody seems to shout them down.

Susan I 25 Jun 2011, 13:26

I have said my peace, but I do need to add more. Bear with me.

@Puffin. I suggest you do some reading on group analysis. I have studied group behavior for many years. Believe it or not, shyness is only a small factor in determining why people do not contribute to a group. Most often cited is because they feel what they have to offer has already been brought to the table by others, in this case, the same 5-7 people, negating their reason to contribute. Sometimes people feel there is a tightly formed clique which attacks others not in the group, and based upon the attacks of the so-called "new posters" I believe that is quite apparent here on Eyescene. Other times people do not play in the game is because they feel their contribution must meet an unfairly high set of expectations, aka quality standards, or they will be told they are wasting others' time, aka what they have to say just isn't important enough for the group.

What's sad is all the above reasons why people do not contribute to a group have been validated in this Eyescene thread. There have been vicious attacks against me. The non-contributors have been negatively tagged as "too shy," "wallflowers," "weak," and high expectations have been unfairly placed upon their postings so much so that they had better be something worth waiting for if others are being asked to momentarily step aside from control of the microphone for five minutes. Add to that the class distinction being repeatedly mentioned of "old posters" vs "new posters" with an inference that "old posters" are somehow better and more quality controlled than the newer ones.

This is what I am seeing in Eyescene. This is what disappoints me. This is what I hope could someday turn around and make this a welcome, comfortable community again for all to contribute.

Puffin 24 Jun 2011, 17:16

I don't really wish to start anything else off here about the recent controversy, but felt I had to say this:

I don't have any more information about site and thread viewing stats than anyone else has here, obviously apart from the owner, but it must be asked - how are we so certain that these non-posting lurkers actually exist?

The possibility can't be ruled out, but how do we know?

Even assuming there is an unknown quantity of lurkers, their silence and invisibility to the rest of us gives us no indication of their motivations for lurking and not posting. On that basis, why assume that any or all are shy and are waiting for the board to quieten down? They just might not have time to say anything. Or their boss might come in before they can contribute. There are many reasons for apparent "shyness". If anyone can say how anyone here can know anything about invisible silent internet users, then please go right ahead and say so.

What to do in the future 24 Jun 2011, 16:58

post deleted - banned user

Susan I 24 Jun 2011, 15:43

I think I have been respectful of others here, but the personal attacks are bothersome. I have said my peace, and it looks like while I got some positive reinforcment, much of the response to constructive criticism was - as one user her put it - an open lynching. I am not the expert you seek, I was suggesting we allow others whom you might not know about speak instead of the same 5-7 people.

Yoyo 24 Jun 2011, 15:21

Thanks for that, Wurm. IMO, it was long overdue. Though some critical discussion of the purpose of this forum is fine, this person was clearly not interested in having that discussion. They just wanted to come here and bash the site's visitors.

Wurm 24 Jun 2011, 13:19

While I've been somewhat sympathetic with our moralizing crusader (What to do in the future 24 Jun 2011, 12:49) at times and appreciate the point of view if not the communication style, after reviewing the full posting history I've decided to ban this user for the following reasons:

multiple usernames, trolling, stirring the pot

Stirring the pot refers jumping into whatever controversy happens to be brewing in an attempt to ramp it up or keep it going.

What to do in the future 24 Jun 2011, 12:49

You can put your links and photos here: Although this is mainly about blindness and missing eyes (and the whole site is about even more disgusting fetishes like amputations and other limb deficiencies) it certainly would put the glasses fetish into a much better context for revealing its slightly creepy nature. ;)

Glasses Lover 24 Jun 2011, 08:54

Thanks, Astra.

still 23 Jun 2011, 21:49

As a long-time lurker, I want to say something, even though the preceding interesting discussion seems almost played out: What bothers me about what I've been reading is the raw feelings that some people seem to have. Whatever for? This has been a great site, and many of us, I think, have had a lot of fun being here. I've enjoyed what people had to say. I'm grateful to Wurm, as I have said before, but also I am grateful to the frequent posters, who often have somehting worth while and intelligent to contribute. I agree with someone who said earlier that nothing in the frequent posters' contributions makes it harder for anybody else to put in their 2 cents. So what is the problem? As people say in NJ, "Fogettaboudit!" Get back to having fun. That's why we come here. And let's figure out how to keep it going after Chris retires to the place where good, generous people go.

midnight 23 Jun 2011, 17:46

Who burning who at the stake now I am fairly certain that Susan and all others have been invited to contribute to our community in many posts by now this is no longer an issue the issue now is Susan and anonymous posters need for attention there are other ways of going about having your voice heard then to judge and critisize others for there alternative life styles and to verbally condemn them because there manorisms do not suit your way of living I have to also start to wonder how many of you are friends of Susan not that you know them at all it just sort of seems weird that they stopped posting and then anonymous posters started posting

Wurm 23 Jun 2011, 17:43

I guess it's OK to have a good spleen-venting every so often.

I'll point out that there is actually very little overlap between the 'old-time ES users', the 'users who post a lot currently' and the 'users with a fetish interest who post mostly links or photos'.

It seems well known that making oneself highly visible can lead to resentment. There are various folk sayings to that effect such as "the nail that sticks up will be hammered down" and "the tall poppies get their heads lopped off". I'm inclined to put it all down to human nature rather than thinking anyone is at fault.

 23 Jun 2011, 17:12

i'm not sure i understand you astra. OOPS nevermind!!

Soundmanpt 23 Jun 2011, 17:01

Jessie M

you are certainly welcome over on "lenschat" we can chat in the open or in private your choice.

Astra 23 Jun 2011, 16:54


I don't understand the politics either .

May just ignore those users that we can't understand.

JessieM 23 Jun 2011, 16:49

I'm not sure about the underlying politics at play here, but all I can say is that I am a "newbie" having found this site about a month or so ago. It really helped me in understanding a few things.

I'm not a fetishist, I do like wearing glasses and I like men in glasses too. My boyfriend looks great both in his glasses and without, so I'm probably a little less extreme than some here. That said, I think that this site is a force for good and it seems a terrible shame that there is such bad feeling at the moment.

Thank you Eyescene for being there for me, I hope you're there for others in the future.

Brutal Truth 23 Jun 2011, 15:58

Face it Susan, it's not that those superior being of the "original crowd" of this board don't want to understand; they simply can't as superior as they feel. Their giant egos seem to work as protective shields against every crititism.

Especially when it comes to how their fetish targets might feel about being targeted by their fetish, this incompetence in social behaviour and and lack empathy is terrifying. Their world only contain themselves, the other peer-superiors and their etically absolute problem-free fetish. And anyone who refuse to agree, is just a dumb sheep of the stupid herd.

The good thing now is, that everyone can see the giant arrogance of these reality-tetached minds most clearly now. Thank you, Susan, for making this revelation happen.

Astra 23 Jun 2011, 14:37

Glasses lover,

We are all here to share, no need to apologize.

Glasses Lover 23 Jun 2011, 06:45

Has the proverbial 'can of worms' been opened here? No pun on Mr Wurm intended.

This anger is getting us nowhere. Time to pull back the heavy guns and take a breath. I know that my last post was a bit fiery, but I will NOT single any individual out, as some have done. Skip the personal attacks.

Take it easy. Life's too short. Live long, live strong.

Astra 23 Jun 2011, 02:42

I don't think there's low tolerance here .

have been used to some websites that is full of spams and adverts. this isn't alien to me.

 23 Jun 2011, 02:36

Tolerance has reached an all-time low here. It appears all those who said this place is no more fun should look at the public lynching of Susan given here for all to see!!!

Filthy McNasty 23 Jun 2011, 01:22

I see that I have failed to communicate clearly. Not to worry.

In my previous post, "lowest common denominator" = "people who post less than they wish for some self-imposed or imaginary restriction which they resent."

There is no space quota here. You can post as much or as little as you wish. Topics do not go stale, as long as posters have something of value to contribute. The fact that someone has posted on a topic does not deprive you of the right or ability to do the same. The fact that you are too timid (or whatever - substitute your individual impediment) to post as much as you feel you are entitled to does not create an obligation upon others to refrain from posting. The world will not - and should not be expected to - pad its sharp corners for you. All of this being clear beyond peradventure, I say, wiith regret, that I do not understand what all the complaining is about.

Adding to my confusion, I observe that you have not been shy in this thread to say your piece (and good on you for that). Why not just take a place at the table and engage in a little intellectual intercourse?

 23 Jun 2011, 00:47

post deleted - personal attack

Astra 23 Jun 2011, 00:02


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Wow 22 Jun 2011, 23:32

Watching all the attacks against Susan I is amazing. All she asked for was fair share here and she gets viciously attacked. I think you all should be proud u proved her right on the money about the state of this board today!

Specs4Me 22 Jun 2011, 23:02

OK, I'm a 10 - 12 year mostly lurker and sometimes poster. I don't post often because I don't feel I have the knowledge or experience to give answers that will be helpful to those who post questions.

That said, I do appreciate that CJ, S4E, Soundmanpt and others are willing to share their knowledge and expertise. I have read posts from all three of them that include the caveate that they are not professional ECPs and thus their answers should be taken in that light. (Their own statement, perhaps not their exact words)

Having said that, I feel that if there are others that are capable of answering the questions that these and folks so willingly answer then they should speak up and answer the questions or at least confirm the answers that have already been given and thus, let the community know that they are out there and have some knowledge to share. I see no valid reason for people to have to wait for 2 weeks to get an answer to their question if there is no one capable of answering the question other than one of our resident experts.

I suspect that if there were others capable of answering the questions in question they would have made themselves known to the community before now; the fact that they have not tells me that the probablilty of them being there is highly diminished.

As has been said by others, I personally value the input from CJ in his treating of the technical questions that are posted, Soundmanpt for his offerings often related to those areas that are more optician (glasses dispensers for those accross the pond) related as he has expertice in that area. I have learned a lot from both of them and for my part I don't want to see them backoff from doing what they do so well.

Just my $.02 FWIW, probably not much.

 22 Jun 2011, 20:57

About 10 years ago there was a person with the same name, Susan I, on another forum about a different subject.

Exact same writing style, exact same attitude, exact same goal, stirring up trouble.

It was soon determined, "SHE" was a "HE" and the forum owner just deleted him.

Here, the forum owner will delete the whole thing and I sure don't blame him.

pete 22 Jun 2011, 20:57

Here, here Filthy.

A situation like this would not be tolerated at a local surf break (a quite accurate simile). Ask any old timer who has surfed the break for years to give their wave to a grom? Show some respect, kook! In general, nature doesn't have to abide by a pansy request to play 'fair'. Show us what you got girl (or boy) . . . no room here for patsy favors for little grommies. You can show your worth like anyone else. Stop crying foul. In fact, stop your whimpering. What are you made of??? huh? Test your metal by taking a chance-post your strength, knowledge and wisdom . . . honestly, what have you got to offer? Should you (maybe) spend the next next 6 months observing how those of heart, time and wisdom have been doing it? Rather than asking others to accommodate your sobby inferiority posts, pay some dues; swallow a bit; respect what has been provided and maybe you'll get a wave that makes you feel like you belong.

midnight 22 Jun 2011, 19:46

Susan I am sorry but it seems to me as you might be the one going off bits and pieces as I have been an avid reader of this site for more than 5 years and it also says so in an earlier post now I claim to know very few things about the topic of these forums I am certainly no professor when it comes to the topic but I will say this that even in your response back to me it seemed like more of an attack I honestly don't know of any teacher that would respond to there student the way you just did I have been reading your posts they all seem to defend your character as a person and to offend anyone who's opinion might be different your quest for attention grows tiresome so I will not respond further I have better things to do with my time

Susan I 22 Jun 2011, 19:29

@midnite: Sir I offer you no offense, but you haven't been around this community long enough to start making the judgements about a "you" and an "us." By your own admission, you just joined here. I am speaking to those of us who have been around for more than five years at least. I suggest you re-read some of the threads where debates took place and you will see there is no "us" here, Eyescene used to value all diverse opinions. Now it's only the opinions of 5-7 peopl ewho count. You also need to re-read all my posts and stop leaping off tangential bits to make points. Accept criticism maturely, midnite. Asking me to leave while offering suggestions is like the student telling the teacher to go home for giving him a bad grade.

@Filthy: people who post less often = lowest common denominator? WOW. Your words, not mine. Thank you for the excellent example driving home my point about the strong ego's dominating this board!

A.P. 22 Jun 2011, 18:13

Susan I:

I have been a lurker here for years. I welcome new insights and perspectives from anyone who cares to post. I don't agree with your call for for people to withhold knowledge and expertise just because you don't approve of their frequency in posting. You are really not making sense! May I suggest you consider "stepping back" yourself for two weeks? A.P.

midnight 22 Jun 2011, 18:10

See your playing every angle here and still coming off negative looking to scorn or punish someone and for what I can almost garuntee your goal won't be met a minute ago it was about peoples voices not being heard now its cause were men your methods are made to attack rather then try to teach or blend in instead of working with us you want to stage a full on war and I think its just for attention to be honest

Filthy McNasty 22 Jun 2011, 18:07

This is a most interesting debate, and the question, as I understand it, is this:

Is this a forum in which people should self-censor in order to cater to the lowest common denominator?

Susan I 22 Jun 2011, 17:58

I never said the people with the technical knowledge here shouldn't contribute. But those people are making the assumption they are the only people with that knowledge when there might be others out there who not only have the same, but greater knowledge in this area. I never said that was me, and that is a crude assumption. This doesn't mean those same 5-7 people should not contribute at all, it simply means they should try to self-moderate and use a little bit more self control to see if someone else can answer. And for the test, why not try stepping back completely for two weeks? "The board will fail, the board will fail without me" is a pretty egotistical assumption in my book!

Reminds me of when I became a technical expert in my field. Quite often I knew the answer to the questions being asked in the room, but that doesn't mean I should always continue to jump up and answer every question because you don't give others an opportunity to grow that way. We never see their perspective. You just keep stealing the spotlight claiming others don't have the knowledge. Have you surveyed the entire Eyescene community and asked for a resume of all our lurkers? Think about what it says about ego.

I think this is an opportunity to provide growth in our community and those 5-7 should stop taking it as an affront to your manhood or something.

midnight 22 Jun 2011, 17:48

Susan the people you are referring to have helped many people including myself with difficult proplems that could be critical to someones health and it almost seems like you would rather punish them for helping other people then commend them for it maybe if you approached this issue in a less negative manner we would be more willing and eager to hear you out but as of right now I see no reason why I would want to listen to any advice you give

midnight 22 Jun 2011, 17:47

Susan the people you are referring to have helped many people including myself with difficult proplems that could be critical to someones health and it almost seems like you would rather punish them for helping other people then commend them for it maybe if you approached this issue in a less negative manner we would be more willing and eager to hear you out but as of right now I see no reason why I would want to listen to any advice you give

Yoyo 22 Jun 2011, 17:38

Any Internet message board would soon be dead if the majority of posters decided to take 2 weeks off between every post. What a silly suggestion.

ehpc 22 Jun 2011, 17:32

Really can't see your point, Susan. The boards are open for anyone to post whatever he or she wishes, all day, every day. Anyone who has Internet can post any time he or she wishes. I don't post very often, but I think the negativity is coming from you. I really can't see what you are getting at.

Cactus Jack 22 Jun 2011, 17:29


As a relatively frequent poster in response to technical questions, I would like to ask your advice on how long I should wait before answering a technical question? There are a few of us who specialize in the technical and psychological area of this site. However, I personally would gladly defer to your knowledge of optics and vision and bow out. It gets tiring answering the same questions over and over. Maybe I should answer a question only once and subsequent posters can either search the site for the question and that answer no matter how long ago the conversation took place. Perhaps I should respond by saying: "The question has been answered, Tough!, go find another site.

I try to concentrate on helping people understand their vision problems and sometimes a question that takes 30 seconds to write requires an answer that takes 30 minutes to compose and edit so that makes sense to a person with no technical background and accomplishes the mission of promoting understanding.

Many times the answer evokes another, related question. How should that be handled?

May I suggest that instead of complaining about what you perceive as a problem, you also propose concrete solutions such a limits to the number of posts, length of posts, subjects of posts, and other ways to improve the site.

A quotation comes to mind: "It is better to light a candle, than curse the darkness". I try to light candles.


midnight 22 Jun 2011, 17:25

Wurm I sorta have not introduced myself names Todd. I have been a avid reader of this site for over 4 years.I remember being a kid and having a great attraction to girls with glasses I can remember sharing it for the first time with one of. My girlfriends who thought I was a freak .I also remember how ashamed I was made to feel about it then I found your site and suddenly everything in the world just seemed to put itself back in to place for me your site made everything OK for me I thought finally a place with kind and generous people who shared the same interest with this being said I am deeply sad to see this go and want you to know you made a difference in some peoples lives at least and from the bottom of my heart thank you.

 22 Jun 2011, 17:06

I sense armegeddon approching closer than 6 months.

Susan I 22 Jun 2011, 16:54

All of the responses with the giant ego's are exactly what I was talking about in my earlier posting. Instead of taking blame for overfilling the boards with posts every day, the same 5-7 people instead chose to blame everyone else for not chipping in. Rather than recognizing their continual need for the spotlight is the real problem here. The level of negativity being expressed toward others who don't post as often is simply incredible and exemplifies exactly everything I said in my earlier posting. This has become a community of 5-7 people who dominate every thread.

About the stepping back experiment: I never said 24 hours. I said two weeks. Why not give it a try, the board is going to close in six months anyway, right? So if you are a poster here who posts more than three times a week, sit back relax and drink some lemonade for the next two weeks and we'll see what happens when others have the opportunity to post. Your assumption that the board would be dead makes another assumption that the board is all about you. I am sure we have many treasures in our Eyescene community who have yet not spoken.

Maybe Wurm could invite them now to step forward and take the mic for a couple of weeks?

Stingray 22 Jun 2011, 09:58

I recall years ago when I posted eyeglasses for sale with a link to ebay, it would get over 400 views, mostly I guess from Eyescene participants.

Recently I listed glasses and it only got about 150 views. It seems to me that the readership and participation is waning. I hope that I am wrong.

I personally have a lot to be thankful for allowing me to advertise my wares here on Eyescene. Thank you Wurm for a wonderful site and I wish you the best in any endeavor you may undertake.

Astra 22 Jun 2011, 09:42


if you meant internet in general.

These days, especially in Japan or China,

most users are solely for business purpose.

In, one of the most popular website in China,

"tieba" which is the equivalent of BBS,

select "myopia" thread,

there are only adverts and spams, promoting "Zhou Xiangwen's myopia treatment" .

and behold, the moderator is Zhou Xiangwen himself !

Millhouse 22 Jun 2011, 05:26


I have to say I do agree.

Other than the sightings thread I'm going back to lurking.

I have noticed myself more recent aggressive, or perhaps I should say "assertive" comments. Trolling & faking seems to be much more of a pastime now here for a small minority. Perhaps as others have said, it's a sign of the times and / or the way things have evolved not just here on these forums but the internet generally. I'm happy to go back to keeping my interest with GWG's a personal matter in my private life, perhaps only revealing my O^O to a like minded partner at some future point. Bottom line for me.....I'm pleased to know there are many of "us" out there, men and women, who share my err, well, not a fetish for me, but definitely a very strong attraction.

Puffin 22 Jun 2011, 05:00

I remember fondly when this place was a friendly place. It's not the same now, sadly.

Astra 22 Jun 2011, 00:58

Yes, the English-speaking community created BBS .

Certainly I cannot find any counterpart in Chinese or Japanese speaking communities,

where adverts and spams are the norm.

lentifan 21 Jun 2011, 19:40

I think the post at 1519 is a good example of what seems to me an extreme sensitivity bordering on intolerance exhibited by a few posters recently.

Perhaps, as a previous poster has said, we shouldn't worry too much, or be surprised. There seems to me, based only on my completely unscientific own experience, to be an increase in intolerance generally on the internet in recent years. Perhaps this is true of society in general - the English-speaking part of it at any rate.

If people feel the site is being dominated by others, what's preventing them from putting in their tuppence worth?

We are all deeply indebted to Wurm for hosting this site over many years and I can understand if he feels he wants to let go. But it would be a great shame if this decision was hastened because he got fed up with such aggressive postings

ehpc 21 Jun 2011, 17:47

I think he means 'forte'

midnight 21 Jun 2011, 16:48


midnight 21 Jun 2011, 16:44

Who gave you let alone anyone the right to judge anyone or critisize as you call it else when did we as a society start thinking it was OK for us to hold a magnifying glass under the sun and aim it at anyone different I actually have a good solution for all these people maybe if debating every little thing other people are doing is you forty maybe you should be in a debate forum I mean you have to admit that makes logical since unless your only real goal is to make someone feel miserable or to get attention I see no reason why these anonymous posters are not in a debate forum

 21 Jun 2011, 15:19

"After all, isn't this is a public forum?"

This seems to be a public forum where a self-elected "orignal crowd" of people think they are beyond all critics and that the only acceptable posts are those in which they get worshipped.

Glasses Lover 21 Jun 2011, 09:43

Jeez, ring funeral home and book the hearse!?


I an an avid watcher of this site, but I don't post very often. Why? I suppose I'm more of a 'listener'.

What I want to say is this; Why is everyone on this site poncing around on hot coals like a pack of chimps on crack just because a few people post some less than favourable comments? Get over it. On any public forum, you're always going to get the occasional nit-wit or three.

Toughen up! If someone posts something objectionable, it's no reason to scream blue murder and threaten to close the site down! Ignore it! Rise above it. There's no reason to take everything to heart.

After all, isn't this is a public forum?

specs4ever 21 Jun 2011, 06:16

And a couple of other points. You are correct midnight. We as a society seem to want everyone to conform to our rules, but these rules don't always fit everyone - no oe shoe deal.

And if people are not willing to participate but insist on lurking, well, if there are no participants, there are soon no lurkers.

specs4ever 21 Jun 2011, 06:12

I used to post a lot more, but as time went on there were others that posted that were more knowledgeable. So, I generally let them answer the questions, and would only respond when I thought something needed clarification, if the given answer was not what I thought was true, or if a da or two had gone by and no one had answered a question that I had an idea what the answer might be.

I am thinking though that if good people like Cactus Jack, or Soundmanpt didn't give their input as freely as they do, this site would soon be pretty dead. I don't always agree with everything that Soundmanpt posts, but he has had more experience than I have. And as far as optical physics, Cactus Jack has the knowledge, and is willing to give it freely.

Would it allow more peole to answer if people didn't jump right in with their views? - possibly. I think that Soundmanpt had a good idea that maybe he should wait 24 hours before he posts in order to allow others to give their input first and not be scared off.

But in the end, I just hope that no one is offended, and that we can all just get along.

midnight 20 Jun 2011, 22:36

You know what bothers me that people with how highly we all regard ourselves as the superior species can take a way of life and turn it in to something ugly this is a way of life and instead of embraceing it we find a way to chastize it and find the flaws in it are all of us really so insecure that if other people are not living and breathing the same way we do that we have to immediately grab the next torch and picket sign available and protest it are we really that flawed that in order to feel whole and unempty inside we have to spend our time finding ways to punish things and people that we know nothing about or that are different I think people had one saying right were all so very scared of stuffwe know nothing about just goes to show you how truly unintelligent are species really is I am aware of my grammer issues I could really give a:-) less

123 Ballston 20 Jun 2011, 20:58

Sounds like YOU are the one bitching, Soundmapt. Probably because you post every single day and cant take some criticism about it. Man up!

ehpc 20 Jun 2011, 18:35

People who are timid (in any walk of life) have only themselves to blame. Scapegoating more active and communicative people is very unattractive.

Puffin 20 Jun 2011, 18:20

Well, I might be part of the "usual suspects", or I might have been till the great "fakery problem" raised its head last year, I found myself innocently answering questions on one of the "first aid" threads from a "faker", and the whole lot got deleted. Perhaps I should have realised. Since then I've gone through some patches of lurking ("relaxen und watchen das blinkenlights", you might say). And congratulating Crystal Veil on the latest photoshoot, not that much else regularly.

I've had this uncomfortable feeling, on and off, for a while, that perhaps most things worth saying about glasses have been said hereabouts a long time ago and we're just going over it all over and over.

Perhaps if someone takes over this site or starts a new one on the same lines, there could be a list of "common questions for glasses newbies" containing explanations of various basic terms, conditions, etc. That might prevent the threads being clogged up with the same questions and discussions over and over.

Soundmanpt 20 Jun 2011, 17:59

Crystal Veil

You know that's not a bad idea, I too will wait at least 24 hours to post anything unless someone is addressing me. So Susan 1 here is your chance to show your stuff.

Soundmanpt 20 Jun 2011, 17:54

I'm sure I am one of the 5 - 7 that you refer to. Maybe I need a rule book? I didn't know we were confined to only one thread? I guess I missed that one? Also not sure why that stops anyone else from making their comments. I am not a fake and I always use my name on my comments Sooooooo! here's an idea, if you see a comment or post from me why not skip right over to the next one by someone else?

Now for the first time I will say what bothers me. It's all the people that only what to get in here and complain about others. Really??? That's the best anyone can come up with anything to say is to bitch?

Crystal Veil 20 Jun 2011, 17:52

OK, Susan I, message understood! Your comment clearly shows that people react different under situations that are identical. I will keep quiet on "first aid" threads for a while and let's see how it works, OK?

Susan I 20 Jun 2011, 17:45

Perhaps an argument can be made that those individuals with the right knowledge continually come forward to the "first aid" threads but I think the point you might be missing here is that you are also making a presumption that no one else here would answer those questions if they didn't do it. I think we would be surprised to learn what other treasures of knowledge we have in our community if the same posters weren't so quick to leap to answer all the time. That same eagerness also discourages others from participating.

It's an interesting thing to observe over the years, and the same 5-7 call "themselves" the old ones while forgetting there are many, many folks out there who have never posted who are also the old ones too.

Sometimes I wonder just how big Eyescene is, but when the same folks continually post everyday over and over again, it gives the impression of a clique of just a few where the rest of the community is not invited to participate, just read. Personally I know that I have not answered many threads because of this reason. I have felt shunted.

It might be good for all those overeager posters to just sit back for a couple weeks, try it out... see what happens in Eyescene. Would we see participation from folks who never spoke before? Would it just sit and die? or would perhaps those same folks create other names and just post under those names instead...

Crystal Veil 20 Jun 2011, 16:36

The word "posting" may require a few nuances here. Some "first aid" threads are of the Q&A type: people come up with a problem about glasses and eyesight, hoping (and my guess is, expecting) that some experts will have an answer which can be of value. In that case one might argue that the 5-7 "posters" obligingly come up with the answers, even if the answers to very similar questions have been given many times before. In that case the word "dominating" is simply an optical illusion. I usually confine myself to the "seen on the web" thread but occasionally I answer some questions on the "first aid" threads when speaking from personal experience. I never feel shy about "trespassing", never regard any thread as "owned" or dominated by one or two members with a more thorough knowledge. Looking forward to read more comments on the matter!

lentifan 20 Jun 2011, 15:39


My own view is that matters is the usefulness and/or interest of the mesaages, not who the poster is.

 20 Jun 2011, 15:37

Susan, I can only second that.

Dave 20 Jun 2011, 15:31

Good point Susan I. Perhaps a way of dealing with this is self moderation. Also, it should not be difficult to add a count of the number of posts or words an individual made in, say, the last 24 hours, week and month, so as people could be more aware of how much text they produce.

don't know who you refer to in the 5-7 posters, but in count I just did on the Vision thread, 9 out of 49 posts were made by the same person, and non of these were particularly short.

Susan I 20 Jun 2011, 13:51

Something that has bothered me over the years is that Eyescene has become the personal sounding board for about 5-7 people who feel like it is their esteemed and honorable duty to post each and every single day in several threads. While I think the "community" aspect of Eyescene is a good thing, these folks never give any of the lurkers in the community a chance to weigh in with their own ideas because these 5-7 folks are so busy trying to impress everyone here with their opinions and "knowledge." It's good to have knowledge and want to share it, but it's also good to know when to step back even when you know the answer to let others have a say in the spotlight. Think about that... you all know who you are.

Like all good things, this too must come to an end. It's not the same, but the comments about the fakers are out of place. Some of us who have been around since the beginning will remember "Jennifer" and other fakes that have always been here. Maybe it's because of the dominance of this board by 5-7 people we don't see more, but I would offer than it isn't any different in that respect than before. Personally I think it's the ego's that are driving this board into the ground, but that's just me.

Andrew 15 Jun 2011, 10:06

You can even have the away shirt to prove it next season.

Up the Blues! (I wonder how many times I have posted THAT comment over the years)

Smudger 15 Jun 2011, 02:59

I may have changed my name, but I'm still a Shrimper Andrew!

Andrew 14 Jun 2011, 11:54

October 9 1998 seems to be my first posting:

"I hope not, too. I found this site earlier on during the week, and have had great fun reading some of the old files. I never realised that there were others out there with a similar interest to mine. By the way, I'm a "Shrimper" too! "

Remember those days - when Smudger was Shrimper?

Millhouse 14 Jun 2011, 10:42

I’ll be sorry to hear the site may go to say the least...

Be good if it carries on, though in what format remains in the hands of Wurm, who I’m sure will ensure a smooth transition to whatever he has in mind or with whom.

I’ve been a mostly a lurker I’m afraid to say but do make the odd posting on threads that interest me, for advice, sightings or more technical lens and frame advice (thank you CJ esp )

As many have mentioned regarding their interest in GWG’s I thought I was quite alone for many years in this respect. When I found the site while looking for advice on my own need for eyewear and the subsequent personal insecurities I encountered as a new wearer myself after years of CL use, I found much support and realised there are many out there who admire, seek out or otherwise are drawn to men or ladies of the lens.

Wurm also stated a few posts back that Glasses are now mainstream and I’m sure we have all realised that things have moved along way over the last ten years; most definitely in society’s perception of


Anyway, for my part, thank you all for your occasional advice to me over the last 6 years and thank you for above all for giving back my social & inner self confidence.

Long live GWG’s O^O

specs4ever 13 Jun 2011, 14:59

No apology required Pete. Thanks for your kind comments though

pete 13 Jun 2011, 13:45

8 Ball,

Actually, there IS a difference between those that include their names to posts and those that don't. I wouldn't still be visiting this site (over 10 years now) if it wasn't for people like S4E, Wurm and all those others with names (or handles, pseudonyms-whatever you may call it). I even have a mental image of what each of these people looks like. That's the point, they are real people to me. Over the years there's consistency in how each perceive and communicate things. They have personality.

Anonymous posters, on the other hand, are a kind of closet variety - still afraid to come out and reveal their substance.

As for Wurm's announcement regarding the entire site, see his post on this thread dated 14 Apr 2011, 11:20. Seeing as you might not know this yet, in order to access that you will have to scroll to the bottom of this page and click on "View All Posts".

passive visitor: No one has excluded you from joining in other than yourself.

S4E: Sorry for redundancy - was just finishing up writing my post when I saw yours.

Specs4ever 13 Jun 2011, 13:23

If anyone really wants to find it, then scroll back in this thread to a posting by Wurm:14 April 2011 at 11:20. Read it, and then read further(more recent)postings on this topic, and you too can see that Wurm has indicated that his timeline is roughly year's end - unless someone else steps up to the plate.

Yes, I do post under a "user name", as do most of the other people here. However my user name has remained the same for the past 15 years, so that whenever I post people know it is from me. During the 15 years I have been posting there have been a number of anonymous posters, who, for the most part contribute nothing to the site, and get their jollies in being rabble rousers - one of the reasons why Wurm is ending his chore of keeping the site up and running - in my opinion.

Not every anonymous poster is like that, but this is the main reason why I have nothing but disdain for anonymous posters.

And as far as your comment goes Mr. 8Ball, no one in their right mind should post on the internet under their real name - unless they are a blogger or someone who gets paid for postings. I don't want people who don't agree with my views to come knocking on the door of my house intent on doing harm to me or my family. There are enough people here who I consider friends who know me personally, and know my true identity, but they have all earned the right to know it.

And with regards to passive visitor's comment, I didn't see anything that I considered patronizing in Filty's little posting. He just called it like he saw it. I have always welcomed any newcomer who wished to post. However, you have your reasons for feeling as you do, so there must be something to it, and if I have contributed to this feeling in any way, I am sorry.

passive visitor 13 Jun 2011, 13:02

As an regular passive visitor of this site for quite some years (approximately since 2001) the extremely patronizing tone of the so-called "original crowd on this site" [Filthy McNasty 12 Jun 2011, 12:56] has been most irritating to me and kept me away from posting and participating. It surely has been an epiphany to learn that there is a community around glasses fetishism out there, but said patronizing tone and the almost complete lack of tolerance for critical discussions about it, turned it into some sort of negative epiphany for me after a short while, regarding this "original crowd".

8 Ball 13 Jun 2011, 11:53

spec4ever: Not sure what your obsession is with people who don't post a name versus ones that use completely fake names like yourself, but honestly there is no difference. Glass houses guys... focus on the message content, please.

Can someone please point to the post/link that says the entire site is going to be shut down? All I can find is a comment that "Seen on the Web" topic might take a break. Other than that, I don't see anything.

Speximann 13 Jun 2011, 10:38

Smudger, I read your old post which was before I found this site & I too thought I was the only GWG lover out there. I read your All Time Favorite GWG is Donna Mills from the Bridesmaid movie. I agree 100%. I have been tryin to get that movie on DVD for years. Also have a tape somewhere of an E.T. interview where she was wearing the tortise frames for the whole interview.

On the current topic: Thanks for the hard work all thru the years Wurm & the rest of you have invested in this great site. I have enjoyed it every day. These jackass posters are always tring to rattle our cages on here as well as other fetish like sites. They come to this & other sites for the same reason as the rest of us, THEY LIKE IT!! Too Bad they are too obnoxious to cool out & enjoy the content for what it is. Other than the age thing (which is sometimes off base a bit) I find this group to be very diverse & flexable to the likes & dis-likes of viewers. THANKS AGAIN.

specs4ever 13 Jun 2011, 07:39

Just another typical anonymous poster who makes comments without knowing the facts. For your information anonymous, Wurm has announced that he is closing down this site around the first of the year, unless someone wants to step in and take over. And the blockig of seen on the web is only the first step.

I read your post with interest Filthy, and you have said pretty much what I would have said. I could add to it, but it isn't really necessary, and would likely be counterproductive.

 13 Jun 2011, 06:11

All this gloom and doom for nothing? I see no postings by WURM stating he is closing down the whole site. Gee people get so emotional over almost nothing these days.

Smudger 13 Jun 2011, 04:36

I've just ploughed through some of the original polls to find my first ever post!

Back in the days before I acquired a "u" in my username (which I have decided to drop again!)

Nearly 14 years ago now - amazing!

Thanks Wurm for an excellent service.

The post is repeated below for posterity

"Wed Aug 13 10:16:22 1997


I've been ploughing through the correspondence for the past few weeks and have found the discussions most stimulating. Like most of the newcomers to this scene, I have always thought that I was the only man that found girls in glasses highly attractive. It is nice to know that I'm not as weird as I thought. Or if I am then there are plenty of other weird guys out there like me which is a comforting thought. I have visited the glasses exhibition at the Crafts Council in Pentonville Road, London and found it excellent. One of the best features is that they have a selection of frames which you can try on around the exhibition hall. Unfortunately, for those like me that enjoy testing other prescriptions, they all have plain lenses but it's still good fun, free entry and worth a visit if you're in London. To catch up on all the topics that I've missed will take some time, however I'd like to start with the last one. My favourite all-time glasses film is "The World's oldest living bridesmaid", previously mentioned by Lucky (6 Aug. '97). Donna Mills is convincing as a glasses wearer and actually uses about three or four different frames during the film. The story line is dreadful, but she has such gorgeous eyes which are enhanced by the frames that it is worth watching over and over again. How about trying to get a still frame on the Girls with glasses film page? (Limedip take note!). A French film called "Ma vie sexuelle" has just been released at the Renoir Cinema, Brunswick Square, London. I haven't seen it yet, but the poster features an attractive actress wearing glasses. I was interested to hear that Iris asks her boyfriends to keep their glasses on during sex. My wife does not need glasses (unfortunately) however she was prescribed a pair of +0.25 in each eye about five years ago. She obliges me by keeping these next to our bed - what a lucky guy I am. She has recently wanted to update her frames, but in the UK this is quite difficult as opticians refuse to copy the prescription from her current frames. I have found one dispenser in a market who will copy from existing glasses, but the only other solution that I can come up with is ready made readers. Does anyone know where we might be able to buy "off the peg" glasses with a low + or - prescription - preferably in the UK or by mail order? As far as celebritys with glasses are concerned, there can only be one winner. There was an episode of Noel's House Party when Ulrika Jonnsen collected her "Gotcha Oscar" and she was wearing glasses with a prescription of about -1.50. She looked absolutely incredible. With the current fad for retro-chic I wonder if the large coloured "Anglo-American Eyewear" plastic frames will come back into fashion. I must confess a fondness for those- Deidre in Coronation Street currently sports some large red ones. Others who used to be seen wearing specs occasionally to great effect were Lorraine Kelly on GM-TV (former UK Female spectacle wearer of the year) and Carol Barnes (ITN). Thank you for a brilliant site. And to Jennifer, Hayley, Nicole, Gayle, Iris, Scarlett and all the other girls out there - keep wearing those glasses - you all look gorgeous. PS Is the Morgan Fairchild picture still available? PPS I'll tell you my eye history one day, it's quite interesting as I'm short-sighted in one eye and long-sighted in the other."

lazysiow 12 Jun 2011, 23:41

I passed the 10 year mark myself either this year recently or last, I don't remember but a lot has changed since I found the site.

It was an epiphany for me as well, as I'd always had the same fascination when it first manifested in finding myself attracted to cartoon girls who had been hypnotized or when the hypnosis could be blocked with glasses of some kind as a kid. It was similar whether the girl was helpless when hypnotized (staring blankly into the distance) or lost without her glasses. I intially found ES after following a link through an Alpha Flight fan page where the site owner noticed that in one particular issue, the writer or artist went into great detail when Heather Hudson (wife of the lead superhero) has her glasses knocked off and is helpless, not able to see anything in the distance etc, on the same page was a link to ES and his guess that the people who worked on

that comic would probably be one of us (published long before ES I think however). I'd say that instance changed my life forever lol

Because of the site I found the courage to get my own first ever eye exam which I posted the results on here, mild hyperopia with astigmatism with instructions only to wear when my eyes got tired on the computer (still do occasionally), but I've since flip flopped over to being -0.5 and - 0.75 respectively and wearing those full time instead. Bifocals are probably coming. The thing I miss and remember most about the old ES was the fantasy optical section along with the sightings and many many more fakes. I felt the site started to lose its way once Wurm decided to make it more "serious" and "professional" with the re-org. My taste has also flipepd from myopes to hyperopes these days just like my prescription, hyperopes past a certain point are helpless at all distances plus the element of 'surrendering' to the glasses and natural vision becoming drastically worse once adapting is far more powerful than a girl just squinting to see distance to me nowadays. I'm a fan of low to medium rx's and the struggling and trying to focus, once it gets to a point where someone is legally blind and just stops 'trying' to see bare-eyed a lot of the interest is lost.

I'm thinking if I get a chance in the following months I may resurrect my own version of a fantasy optical, especially since I still have an archive of favourites with most of the old sites down. The other site I miss most is smudge report, which seems to have died along with geocities. Both ES and Smudge Report formed the fulcrum of my first journey into this fetishism back in the day!

Filthy McNasty 12 Jun 2011, 12:56

I will be sad in a way to see it go, but it hasn't been the site I loved for many years now. Or maybe I haven't been the person who loved this site for many years now. I cannot reliably distinguish the two. What I still know is that, for me, girl with glasses > girl without glasses. Always.

I think Wurm has done an admirable job managing many diverse interests and personalities, but the site by the very nature of its subject matter is going to attreact a spectrum of mutually incompatible types.

I think in the early years, when the www was new to many, people were just so overjoyed to find that their interest was shared with others in the world that they stayed on their best behavior. Now, we are awash in glasses porn and cheap high prescription glasses for sale, the squabbles are getting more and more frequent, and the linked material is becoming ever more questionable in taste. Like anything else in life, abundance breeds indifference and contempt. Those glasses that people like S sell would have fetched hundreds a decade ago; now they fetch a few tens, because the ways and means to get them are well known and people are able to satisfy their appetites.

Is all of this a bad thing? I think it is neither good nor bad; merely the reality of human nature, anonymity, and group dynamics. But I will always have a soft spot for the original crowd on this site, and for the moment of epiphany when I first discovered it back in 1997.

lazysiow 12 Jun 2011, 09:13

the latest gwg tumblr I'm refreshing every 2 seconds lol

Puffin 12 Jun 2011, 01:19

There's something in that view, but the blanket ban

is kind of "throwing out the baby with the bathwater" - and if it's only a week, then there's a good chance they'll come back, just as before.

I'm not sure it's always easy to estimate the mental capacity of a person from a photo. Saying that I do wonder about some of the recent offerings.

Honestly, the way things are going hereabouts I can really understand why this site might get closed down completely.

Filthy McNasty 11 Jun 2011, 21:37

I assumed it was because people were behaving like bigger jackasses than usual in that thread.

Puffin 11 Jun 2011, 14:43

That does seem to be overdoing it: it's not just pictures that are "seen on the web".

 11 Jun 2011, 13:49

In the Middle East they do the same: they give the Internet a rest if there appears something they didn't like.

James 10 Jun 2011, 13:25

As a long time lurker and a fairly recent first time poster I would like to say "Thankyou" to Wurm for running this site for so long. Also, thankyou to Bobby for their site with all those great stories from various contributors.

The internet is a wonderful thing. Where else would we so quickly and easily find all the info, photos and videos relating to our interests (and most of it absolutley free!)?

Wurm 10 Jun 2011, 12:54

I'm going to give "Seen on the Web" a little rest. Maybe a week or so.

This would be a good time to consider starting a replacement for link posting somewhere else. If someone wants to do that, I'll be happy to link to it from "Seen on the Web". You'd get a nice start on traffic, since it's a popular thread.

Filthy McNasty 04 Jun 2011, 20:05

You miss the point. Stephan has never admitted to this being a business. He has always represented it to be him selling off extra items in his collection, or, in the last year or so, selling off the entire remainder of his collection. I don't think anyone really cares much, but it is interesting to see how the marketing works - he has figured out that if you sell the glasses as previously worn, especially by someone who looked as hard-core sexy as Sandra did in some of those extreme outfits, they command a much higher price.

I don't understand Wurm to object to the fact that S. is running a business, or even that he may be passing it off as something other than a business. I do understand him to say that it is difficult to get too worked up about people speculating about the business' nature in these circumstances.

As usual, that position seems entirely reasonable.

Rumple Stillskin 04 Jun 2011, 18:50


So that's what's bothering you, the going-out-of-business bit. Can't a man change his mind? Even if that wasn't the case, Stephan & Co have made a significant contribution to this site.

I dare say the prices of Stephans items don't come close to his cost when you add in time. Time to purchase, time to list for sale, time to collect funds due him, time to take to the Post Office.

Question for you. Could you possibly be jealous?

Perplexed 04 Jun 2011, 18:38


Thank you for removing the posts in question.

My $.02

Eye Scene is a supportive one. A supportive community is by necessity, thin skinned. If I wanted to sling bile I would head to one of the political sites where 'rhinos' rule. ?Comprende?

Bobby 04 Jun 2011, 17:32

@Cactus Jack:

I have said that 3 times as fast as I could in English, Polish, Czech and Kashubian ... nothing special happend apart from I got thirsty. The next update is planned for July 2011, or better to say as soon as I get the e-mail with some stories. BTW I would appreciate if some of the others tried to write stories, too. There have always been many talented people among the members of this board.


Stefan and Sandra's project brought fresh air into this community some time ago. Many of us enjoyed the pictures, videos, and stories. Many of us bought a pair or two of those fantastic glasses to enlarge collection and have fun. I believe they did a good thing. What I do not like at all is the bile (really apt word, Wurm) in some recent comments. The person, who sent them should seek some help out of this community.

As a senior member of this community I must say it makes a lot of us very said anytime the typical atmosphere of tolerance gets spoiled by such a contributor.

BTW, have you read the new stories? Specs4ever wrote them for you - all of you, the nice and the bad as well,

Jest 04 Jun 2011, 14:47

Along those lines: For some there exists the hope that what we each seek here will one day become real. Well, chances of that happening are pretty dim. That hurts some while others laugh.

 04 Jun 2011, 12:49

"There are a couple of gratuitous posts under Glasses For Auction Or Sale discussing Stephan and Sandra in a less than positive light."

Is this board only intended to put people, things and, last but not least, *businesses* into a positive light?

Why are here so many people who have problems do deal with critical comments and remarks? One could think, having a glasses fetish would lead automatically to a fairly well developed self-criticism, and also gave people a chance to get some more clever strategies to deal with critics than crying for censorship. My $.02

Wurm 03 Jun 2011, 21:29

It's difficult for me to get serious about a concern that operates in perpetual going-out-of-business mode. I did enjoy the Planet Myopia art and story. Of course, artists are another breed (like businessmen) who do well to wear a thick skin out into the world. No-one can claim that Stephan's work failed to provoke a response.

We agree that the bile should be toned down.

Perplexed 03 Jun 2011, 20:04


Slanderous, and highly unlikely speculations about the background of a business. Are those comments by themselves up to the standards of the site?

Adding bile about the individuals is even more of an insult to frequent readers who have followed our friends on the continent.

Wurm 03 Jun 2011, 19:15

Those posts are certainly questionable. On the other hand, I'm not sure a commercial operation generating sales should have the same set of expectations as a private, personal user carrying on discussions.

Aren't those posts essentially speculations about the background of a business, with a bit of excessive bile thrown in?

Perplexed 03 Jun 2011, 14:18


I should have added that they appear on June 2nd.

Perplexed 03 Jun 2011, 14:17


There are a couple of gratuitous posts under Glasses For Auction Or Sale discussing Stephan and Sandra in a less than positive light. Are these posts up to the standards ES wishes to support?

Cactus Jack 03 Jun 2011, 12:22


Please be sure and update the English version, update date.

Now say that fast 3 times in English.

Thanks as always for your good efforts


Bobby 03 Jun 2011, 12:13

Two new stories by Specs4ever have just been upoaded at

Bobby 11 May 2011, 09:53

The site with the stories score a record number of visitors on Monday 9th May 2011. There were 1200 (one thousand two hundred) visits. Congratulation to all writers, especially to Specs4ever! Many thank to all those who come, read and enjoy the stories. We make the website for you and we are happy that you enjoy reading the stories.

Bobby the administrator of

gwgs 21 Apr 2011, 03:40

Hi Wurm

Thanks for your reply, as I said in my initial post, I don't have any scripting/coding knowledge, but if there were some "on-board tools" that I could use, as you mentioned in a previous post that you design, then I would be happy to help moderate this site, and keep it running, if it meant that without this help this wonderful community would go by the wayside.

You may have better offers than this (people who have knowledge of scripting/coding), but if you don't please let me know!

Wurm 20 Apr 2011, 21:11


See my post 15 Apr 2011, 14:53 for an overview of the time commitment. Most of the time is spent keeping current on all the threads. A bit using FTP to review site logs and delete posts when necessary. Some very simple PHP tweaks to implement or update user bans. And every so often a larger chunk doing real Perl or PHP work to keep the site running properly when the web host reconfigures something or to implement a spam block or other new feature.

Maybe the hardest part is being the 'heavy' who decides what flies and what doesn't. Who considers when to take input democratically and when to play the petty dictator. And then communicates those decisions in a way that hopefully doesn't put too many people off. But that could also be done by committee (and it is at many forums).

As I mentioned before, I continue could fund the site for the foreseeable future if a group would like to take over the management. It's about US $120 a year in hosting and domain fees.

glassesforeveryone 20 Apr 2011, 04:24

I love this site. It's my guilty little treat. I understand where you are coming from Wurm and don't want you to feel pressured to continue. That said, I hope the positivity that is coming through here gives you the impetus to continue.

I could help and have some experience with Wordpress and BBPress for forums, so I could do something with this technology, but it wouldn't be the same as your great site. Also, if my wife found out I would be getting a divorce!

Thanks for bringing Eyescene to the world, I really appreciate it.

gwgs 20 Apr 2011, 03:54

Wow, that's a bolt out of the blue Wurm

To me this has been a site that is completely invaluable. It a meeting point for all us 0-0 fans, where we can discuss matters in private, away from the Facebook trolls, and other people that would spam up the board with no sense comments.

I must have been visiting this site for some 13 years now, and try to visit it every day - even when abroad! When starting the computer up it is the first site I check for anything new, and as there are such a wide variety of topics on here ranging from here there is always something to read, something to learn, and great photos or videos to see via the links posted here by the many contributors that owe so much to you - Wurm - for creating such an unique environment. To me I think the loss of this site would feel like a high myope losing their glasses and we can all imagine what that is like!

I don't know of any other site that could ever compare to this, and without it I think a lot of us would feel kind of lost!

As a regular contributor, and poster to this site, I would be more than happy to help run this site, but I do not have any technical knowledge of servers etc. Could you perhaps let us know what a usual day/week would involve in running this site? Also, what are the yearly costs involved? I think every regular poster/visitor owes it to you to devote a little time to keep this site running.

As others have said, if there could be 3 or 4 people who help run this site it would be more all the more easier for everyone. I work a pretty full day but always find the time to post on here as well maintain my Flickr and YouTube accounts.

Pete 19 Apr 2011, 23:00


I talk to "L".

That person is doing fine.

LikeGlass 19 Apr 2011, 21:16

Always sad to see an iconic site near its end, but I also realize that no matter how much interest one has, sooner or later it wares you down. I also know that this comes and goes in waves, so I am hoping another wave comes along and keeps your interest afloat for a few more years (or decades !)

The endurance of this site has a lot to do with the concept of a text only site that does not support file loads, or the hassles that come along with them and the questions about material ownership. I hope if the site is passed to a new owner, he (or she??) would continue with this wisdom as otherwise it may be a short run.

I will not get into the gushing appreciation and thanks to Wurm for the years he has put in as I think that is well understood by everyone.

I have met many friends on this site. Some who have folded over into real life, others that will forever be a group of ASCII characters, but will be missed as well.

I know that it will be a sad day when I click on the link and get a 404 back. I wish you well my friend, whatever you may decide.

Wurm 19 Apr 2011, 20:01

Hi chrisb,

Thanks, I think you're the first outright volunteer, although others have hinted that they might pitch in. I can continue paying to host the site indefinitely if others would like to keep it up.

You mention servers and whatnot with some familiarity. Do you have any coding skills?

The forum code is Perl (with a little bit of PHP). It's homebrew, maybe a bit kludgy but on the other hand it is quite simple compared to other BBS code I've looked at. I've commented the code pretty thoroughly and a number of features are modular and contained in small, discrete CGI files.

I read the site logs and do thread edits via FTP, but if we get volunteers to moderate threads web-based tools could presumably be built to assist with post review and deletion.

Another option would be to scrap all my code and install some new forum software that has all the moderation features already built in. I could provide a small budget for that.

The popular "Seen on the Web" and "Glasses for Auction or Sale" threads tend to require the most moderation (perhaps half the overall load).

chrisb 19 Apr 2011, 16:49


I am so sorry to hear that your planning to hang up your keyboard as far as eyescene is concerned. Reading your posts over the past few months, I had an feeling you were becoming less enthusiastic.

I might have enough spare time to keep the site going, I spend a lot of my day and some of my evenings logged into one server or other IT system. I am sure I've seen other people almost volunteer in posts over the last week or so.

But: my problem is that you are too hard an act to follow. I'd be so ashamed if it all fell apart under my watch.

Maybe a 3 or 4 of us could share the responsibility, even a month at a time, and if anyone suddenly could not cope there would be a fallback. Some of us are even starting to age, I recall a well known fiction site where 3 prolific contributors all died within a year of each other.

Although we've only shared a handful of 1:1 discussion on the site, I believe I speak for many when I say that I'm proud to have had your acquaintance. The word friend is a bit messed up in the facebook world but if a friend is someone who's opinion and personal qualities you hold in high esteem, I'd call you one of my most longstanding friends. I recall a mad morning back in about 1997 when I wrote a pen portrait of you for someone on the chat page. I don;t know if that significant person 'L'is still around but I am sure she subsequently found my portrait of you accurate.

I too still log into eyescene every day and I'd miss it terribly if it wasn;t there.


leo 19 Apr 2011, 07:43


Hope you'll can afford to be around much longer ! Wish I could help , but I know I'am not able to! This site has been the most important find in my life!Thanks a Million times WURM!!

Albert 18 Apr 2011, 22:39


I have been mostly a lurker but this site has been a God-send for me. I am like Soundmanpt, first thing I check and then periodically during the day. Hope you change your mind, but if not, Thanks a lot.

Soundmanpt 18 Apr 2011, 12:10


I have not been around as long as many others have been here, but in the few years I have been coming here it has become a part of my life. It is the first thing I do when I get up each day and after checking it at least 4 or 5 times during the day I give it one last check before going to bed. I really hope someone decides to take it over or that you maybe will have a change of mind and stay on. You have done a great job in my view trying to keep the fakes out that seem to find pleasure in make believe for some reason. Since this has been your baby for so long I am sure you would be more than happy to help anyone that wishes to try and fill your big shoes? I also would truely miss it if it should not be there one day. Again "Thank You" for what you have done all these years.

Millhouse 18 Apr 2011, 06:36


If the site does go it would be a great loss to GWG admirers but like so many others have said if its time to call it a day I'd respect that.

I’d like to say that, as a full time wearer myself, this site with it’s many contributors and facets of OO’s has given me over the last few years the confidence to wear my glasses with pride and know that there are ladies (and I guess guys too of course) who may find me of particular interest or more shall we say.

I have gained much information, insight, advice and help from contributors in the last 7 years I have been aware of the site.

Thank you to you all.

Specs4ever 17 Apr 2011, 10:07

When I first discovered Eyescene it was about 6 months after Wurm had started it. I had been hanging around Deja news until that time, and I noticed that the postings on Deja had dropped off considerably. So I went looking and discovered Eyescene. All the folks from Deja were already there - some real, some not. The real ones, like Wurm, and Filthy and Neuro Joe are still here. The ones who were not real, have long since reinvented themselves.

As Eyescene developed, I realized that I was not alone in the world, and that there was a whole community out there that consisted of people from all over the world, from all walks of life that, like myself, had a fascination for glasses

I had been doing GOC, but was hesitant to talk about this too much, so I invented a secondary character who was proportedly a high minus male, and using this manner I introduced my idea’s on wearing GOC to stimulate being very myopic. Not what I should have done, I admit, but I wanted to direct the dialogue myself, and by doing this I saw that doing GOC was accepted by most. Now doing GOC is an accepted fetish. And, no I am not saying I developed GOC, as this was around long before I was, but I think I was one of the first to admit doing it openly.

Back in 97 the availability on the web of finding pictures of women wearing glasses was almost non existent. I remember the first collection that was posted on Eyecene, and I was thrilled to find them. Now there are all sorts of pictures available, thanks to Micha, and Konstantine, who have a lot of pictures of real ladies who wear glasses. And thanks to Alain, and Crystal Veil and Stephan and Sandra there is a veritable cornucopia of pictures of ladies wearing glasses that are not their own, but are still wonderful pictures. If it had not been for Eyescene I wonder if any of these pictures would have surfaced.

Also, soon after Eyescene came into being there was very little on the web in the form of fictional stories about GWG, or MIG’s. So, I started off writing a few stories that I sent around to my friends from eyescene for their enjoyment. They suggested that I should post them somewhere, and Lenslover created a site and offered to put them there. Since that time I have written, either by myself or in collaboration with others, 256 stories.

I can’t imagine Eyescene as being in any other format than a bulletin board format. Facebook might be a possibility, but the anonymity of this forum would be gone. Of course some of the phonies that are on facebook might then have to resurface under a different identity, so that might not be all bad.

I do understand Wurm’s desire to step down. I have also considered stopping writing, and the only thing that has kept me going is that there is no one else that has come along that is able to fill the gap. But the day is soon coming where the ideas for new stories will no longer be there. Even now I sometimes feel that I am rehashing an old plot with different characters.

If Eyescene dies a natural death at the end of 2011, so be it. There will be something eles that will come along. Thanks so very much Wurm for starting this site. Thank you Andy for your contributions over the years. And thanks to Lenslover for your friendship and help in getting me started. And, Pete, your input was very valuable as well.

Melyssa 17 Apr 2011, 09:33

I will add my four cents -- inflation, remember? :)

Wurm, let me say that this is without a doubt the best website I have ever visited in all my 13.5 years of using the Internet.

I have learned quite a lot about vision in the 10 or so years that I have known about this site (sight?). And I would consider it a success if I was able to convince other women to wear large, plastic frames, not just for the look, but for the better range of vision they provide. Who knows, maybe Anne Hathaway found out. LOL

As for Facebook, I have about as much chance of joining that as I do in rooting for a New York sports team. My husband uses it, but he agreed with me never to mention me by name or to post any pictures of either of us.

Guest 17 Apr 2011, 08:04

So if you all hate facebook so much, why don't you ask for a /gwg/ board on then?

Puffin 17 Apr 2011, 04:35

I think Facebook will be a big step down from this.

Glasses Lover 16 Apr 2011, 08:36

Wurm, you are a master. Please don't leave us in the lurch. At least take the time to reconsider. However, if you're still of the same mind, then try to find a like-minded soul to host this site. I'd like to, but I lack the resources, expertise and, frankly, the inclination. Please don't turn this site over to Facebook.

Not Facebook. The domain of criminals, bullies and paedophiles. Curse Facebook! Guest, you're mad!

There is a solution somewhere...

Kind thoughts to you all.

James 16 Apr 2011, 07:43

Well if people are chiming in, I may as well too. I discovered Eyescene in my late teens in the late 90's (very near the beginning), not too long after I started using the internet generally. Not too sure how I found it, as this was certainly before the ubiquity of Google (Altavista anyone?).

Before Eyescene, I had no idea there were other people fascinated and even turned on by glasses. Eyescene also taught me about GOC. It was many years before I stopped being a lurker and started commenting - I now regret that I spent more years lurking than commenting.

Since my initial discovery of the site, I have lived in 4 countries, and Eyescene was always with me. It has been a comfort, especially when other facets of my life have been inconstant.

I would be very sad if this were to be the end, but understand Wurm's feelings (and as I am volunteering for nothing, am obviously in no position to criticise). That said, while I am certainly no Luddite, I don't think Facebook is the right forum or modality to take over the community we have here - it is my sincere hope that someone will try to replicate the clean, no frills but brilliant bulletin board system Wurm has built here.

Therouteur 16 Apr 2011, 07:36


The problem with having somebody "take over" is that I just can't imagine anybody bringing the same moderation and wisdom to the job as Wurm has over these fourteen years. I've always been impressed with the great judgment with which he has defused contretemps and handled some very difficult issues.

benn 15 Apr 2011, 17:40

I have been coming here since 98/99. You taught me how to do GOC, almost full time now. And learned so much. I will pay if we can go around "Pay Pal". And I must say I am not a Face Book fan for the same reason, security.

All things end, and if it must I will be sorry. You have done a great job, I have tried it with another site and coun't put up with it. My hats off to you.

Wurm 15 Apr 2011, 14:53

Thanks for all the nice thoughts and kind words. That means a lot to me.

I think I saw a couple of questions in there, too. I'll try to answer those:

Timeline: I think I'd like to get this resolved by the end of the year (or thenabouts).

How much time I put in: Between reading threads I wouldn't otherwise bother with, deleting posts and responding to feedback I think I put in perhaps 3 or 4 hours a week. Every so often there is a major issue, whether social or technical, that might require 8-10 hours of effort to resolve. Overall it's not a huge time commitment.

As always, if people would like to start a related project (which could be as simple as Guest's suggestion to start a Facebook group) I'm open to having it promoted here to get a core user-base going.

Guest 15 Apr 2011, 13:49

It's time to move this topic over to facebook anyway, since this is, where it belongs to. There are many advantages, like no server needs to be rent, no costs for keeping the site running thanks to Mr Suckerberg, to name only a few. See you there.

Cactus Jack 15 Apr 2011, 11:27


I hope that you are not in a hurry to shut down ES, but I understand that 14 years is a long time. I frankly don’t remember when I started posting on ES - 7 or 8 years ago??) and I want to personally thank you for providing such a fine service. I hope my contributions have been worthy of my ecellent host.

If you decide to pass the torch, I hope you will be as diligent in choosing your successor as you have been in running the site. This site has done a lot of good for a lot of people by providing a forum for asking questions and getting answers about vision and vision correction. You and ES have done a lot more than is apparent on the surface. I still can’t and won’t reveal more than this, but ES and your assistance helped thwart a potential kidnaping several years ago. Your assistance helped locate the perpetrators and the victim, rescue the victim, and bring the perpetrators to justice. The outcome of that situation was better than any of us could have hoped for at that time and all involved are grateful for your help.

I believe we all hope you will continue as long as you wish.

Cactus Jack

Puffin 15 Apr 2011, 09:09

Probably a bit premature, but if this site does wind up, where do we all decamp to? This is the only place I've discussed glasses anywhere ever.

Crystal Veil 15 Apr 2011, 08:27


hat off for your Trojan work at Eyescene during the past 14 years. Do you have any idea how many hours it costed you weekly? This would be useful information for anyone who might be interested to thread in your footsteps.

I was not aware of the existence of Eyescene until December 2009 when I discovered that my weblog had drawn some attention. The past 16 months were not only a massive learning process in photography but also in the background and interest of many other glasses afficionados.

The Eyescene community is "the village of Asterix & Obelix" in a contemporary manner. Dispute about the quality of some fish sold on the market, a sense of "us against them" when it comes to the appreciation of glasses and their owners ("them" being the Romans in the Asterix stories), Cactus Jack in the role of Nestorix, your good self as the wise druid Panoramix and so on.

Thank you for the kind words about my project "Ladies behind crystal veil". You are modest about your own role. Your work for Eyescene gave me a peer group and I am grateful for that. The discussions and response were - and still are - of great value to me. I am in the process of posting a photo shoot with a new model and all I can say is "hope you like it". Kind regards from Holland!

Pete 14 Apr 2011, 23:57

As a member since the very first day, I will be sad to see it go or change owners.

The site is not like the "olden dayz" but nothing is.

We move on and make do.

With more time on your hands Wurm, I hope we can get together for dinner again as we have several times in the past.

Thanks for all your efforts.

Filthy McNasty 14 Apr 2011, 22:44

Wurm: As to your reference to going out "on top": This site is unique. Whenever it goes out, it will be on top.

nickweymouth 14 Apr 2011, 17:06

dear mr worm we do indeed live in strange times twice in 3 months i find myself agreaing with mcnasty minor i want to say thank you sir and must go and lay down now i wish you best wishes for anything you do in the futre

Puffin 14 Apr 2011, 14:32

It would be a sad day if this site, in many ways the centre of the glasses universe, was no more.

Galileo 14 Apr 2011, 13:48

Likewise! Eyescene has been a virtually daily part of my life for nearly as long as it has existed. (thanks again Wurm).

Personally I could not find the time or inclination to do what Wurm does, but I am left wondering if there are any ways we collectively could keep the site going and allow Wurm to make a graceful retirement? Any ideas from the IT/web literaty out there?

Specs4Me 14 Apr 2011, 13:16


You have done more than the extra mile with this site. I would also miss it greatly if you were to decide to pull the plug. I have enjoyed this site for some 10 or 12 years now, and although not a regular poster I'm here daily seeing what is new and interesting. There is lots of that.

Recognizing that keeping a site like this going for as long as you have can become burdensome. When you do choose to exit stage left, know that you will be fondly remembered and appreciated for all that you have provided to many glasses afficionados. A big thanks for all your hard work and even tempered managing of this site.

still 14 Apr 2011, 12:29

Filthy said it for me, too.

I've always appreciated the work and generosity which you've expressed here. While I would certainly miss the site if it were to disappear, I understand that life must go on, and you have other things to do.

Filthy McNasty 14 Apr 2011, 12:20

Wow. Quite a revelation. I would expect taht each of us understands. I myself feel the same many days, without the load of maintenance.

But let there be no mistake: I will be forever grateful to you and ES.

Wurm 14 Apr 2011, 11:20

This is a post I've been pondering for quite awhile, and I want to do it at a time when the forum is relatively drama-free so it's clear to everyone where my head is at. This seems like that time.

I've been running the site for about 14 years. For the most part it's been great fun and I certainly get wonderful feedback on a regular basis. This is a bit of an odd site, of course, but even considering that it's been good as a resume/portfolio item at some key times in my working life. And it has more than paid for itself via Optical4Less and Albert's generous sponsorship a few years back. I also had help from volunteer moderators for a couple of years and a sprinkling of donations, all of which is greatly appreciated. Finally, seeing a major project like Crystal Veil come to pass and imagining that I played some small part in it is extremely gratifying. With all that said, I've been considering my exit strategy.

IMPORTANT PART: I'm not shutting down the site now, or even soon (barring unforeseen events, of course). But I would like to start publicly entertaining the notion of handing the site over, winding it down, or perhaps altering it in some way to lighten the daily review/maintenance load.

While I still like the site, and some days even love it, my original passion for it has dimmed quite a bit with passing years. Glasses are now 'hip', I've proven some things to myself regarding a long-term project, and a great deal of fun has been had by many. Yay! Now, with all those goals met, I'm beginning to think it might be best to go out on top.

Bobby 02 Apr 2011, 07:59

Hi readers, I have updated the stories website. There are, as your tradition is, two excellent stories by Specsever, one story na Glasseslover, the Jewels too was reconstructed, and The Spectacles by E.A. Poe was added. Many thanks goes to Jules for his co-operation, and, of course, to Specs4ever for his fruitful talent.

I would like to ask other people gifted with the talent for writing to contribute.

lazysiow 18 Mar 2011, 09:33

Permanent anti-fogging coating for glasses finally developed

Bobby 17 Mar 2011, 19:35

Jules, as you said you do not get any e-mails from me, this is a copy of my answer. Check your spam filter or send me an alternative e-mail address, please.

Hi Jules,

What I said was, that two of the files you sent me were in a kind of format my Windows and MS Office could not recognize.

The extension of the files were .dat (dot D A T), I think it is a format that Apple uses, it cannot be PC format.

Thank you for sending Jason McNamara and Jewels Too in a readable format.

However, the other two files I have just received from you, Bobbi & Amy and The Spectacles are in the .dat format again.

Do not resend them, I managed to open them using a special utility.

I do not know why my e-mails do not ever get to you, maybe you should check you spam filter.


Julian 17 Mar 2011, 13:45

Bobby: I've done it (but they were all .rtf when I sent them!)

Bobby 16 Mar 2011, 21:12

The website with stories has been updated!

2 new stories by Specs4ever, 1 story writtenby ttuee2006 and sent by Jules inot MIG stories, and 2 morphs of famous actresses.

!!!Julian, I could not open the other two files. I cannot handle hose .dat format files. Please, resend them in .doc.

 10 Mar 2011, 22:41

Bobby, is there going to be an update to your ficton site this month?

post under fake name 02 Mar 2011, 10:38

Art? The Art of nit-picking!

Art 02 Mar 2011, 06:05

1 more point: it was suggested that some legendary people enjoy Alain's posts or find them useful. Curiously, the fact is that NO came up saying that himself; the ease at which one can post under fake names makes this fact even more telling!

Art 02 Mar 2011, 06:01

My eye sight is not what it used to be; scrolling takes an extra reading. I once ventured the course of paying for ALain's post. It was long and unrewarding. As I wrote there, I expected a more considerate attitude, e.g., in making the cost clear, either here, or on his own site. Alain's conduct was far from that.

I am getting the impression that Alain simply enjoys annoying people in his posts and/or being rude and/or being inconsiderate, but perhaps I am wrong, and he would come up asking that he is given a section (paid or/not) for his posts.

guest 01 Mar 2011, 13:46

Well said, iiii, I'd like to second that.

iiii 28 Feb 2011, 16:49

Well if you believe that someone can just scroll beyond messages they don't like, why are message threads deleted anyway? Can't people just scroll beyond those too?

Different standards of fairness it seems.

Puffin 27 Feb 2011, 18:10

I'm sure there's some people to whom Alain's posts are relevant. There is stuff here about GOC and men in glasses for example which I have no trouble ignoring.

Is it really such a problem to not read something?

Rayray 27 Feb 2011, 17:15

Just to add I dont think Alain's posts are a problem as virtually everyone is aware of what they are and can ignore them if they want to. Some people will get exorcised abt anything. As to the whole democratic thing it's ridiculous - Wurm pays for the hosting and therefore owns the site and what ever goes up here is his responsibility and prerogative.

Bobby 27 Feb 2011, 11:49

@Filthy McNasty:

I can second that. There is a lot of stuff posted here, so anybody can find thing they like as well as things they do not like. Let people post what they find interesting or important. If it is about glasses, it is all right.

Wurm 26 Feb 2011, 23:37

Athletes thread is still there.

Threads without a post in 2011 won't show up in the "Threads by Most Recent Post" index, but you can still get to them via the "Thread Index".

dave 26 Feb 2011, 22:05

Is there no longer an athletes thread?

Filthy McNasty 26 Feb 2011, 21:55

If I beaked off every time some dweeb posted something on ES that I found annoying, I'd post about 10 times as much as I do.

Sure, the HMG stuff is (mildly) annoying. But all you have to do is scroll past it. It's not like we're all still on dialup.

I think Wurm does an admirable job of keeping us all in line.

Wurm 26 Feb 2011, 21:03

Albert from Optical4Less approached me, and that worked out pretty well. He was already doing high-volume business.

I doubt Alain is generating that kind of revenue with his site at this point. I think he's mostly just trying to cover his costs.

I do understand that a bunch of people enjoy the user-submitted links and a vocal subgroup don't want them mixed with repetitive promotional posts. Hopefully we can figure something out.

pete 26 Feb 2011, 20:16


Didn't you allow optical4less for awhile to have their plug at the top of the page? Couldn't something like that be offered $ to Alain. It would keep his promo off the threads entirely and clear of criticism . . . maybe.

Wurm 26 Feb 2011, 20:08

Any other thoughts on making a separate thread for sites that have most of their content behind a paywall? I have a couple of things to note.

Most of the XXX stuff is a commercial site of one kind or another. I'd prefer to leave that thread as it is and just worry about the "Seen on the Web" general audience links for now.

Also, the "Glasses for Auction or Sale" thread is already by definition commercial. But we have had similar issues there. So I have some doubts about how much this would help. If the same pack just follows Alain to another thread and starts nitpicking him there I may begin to lose patience.

pete 26 Feb 2011, 19:59

From what Wurm has shared within the past 24 hours it seems he is willing to receive suggestions here on this thread. I think that this has always been the case. In the 12 years I have visited and participated on this site I have seen changes as a result of suggestions made or assisted by others. Sure Wurm has final say and we should accept whatever the outcome is. I may question his rules from time to time but I don't question his authority. I would be crestfallen if this site were no more. Still, I have to say, it pisses me off that some of these threads slip into anarchy. My stated feeling is that deleting the aggression won't make it go away and if I were Wurm I would be open to helpful suggestions to put an end to it. In my humble opinion it seems like it's time to develop a policy regarding the use of this site to promote the money making endeavors of others. It doesn't bother some but bothers others. It's the backwash of it all that bothers me. What an unfortunate use of time - to wade through that just to get my daily eyescene fix.

lentifan 26 Feb 2011, 19:12

Your language is a little over the top, don't you think, Anonymous? 'Despotic rule'? I don't think so. Nobody is forcing anything on you. You can ignore Alain's occasional posts if you wish. That's not too much of a burden on you, I would have thought.

Brett 26 Feb 2011, 19:09

Well said: Specs4ever and thank you Wurm for all you do!

Anonymous 26 Feb 2011, 18:26

still, shouldn't even the most generous hosts generally rule their internet reigns in ways compatible to democratic and pluralistic standards instead of establishing a despotic rule based on subjective preferences and resentments, personal beliefs and disbeliefs?

still 26 Feb 2011, 17:49

Not at all, Anonymous. But Wurm is our generous host, and

on sites such as this, the host makes and enforces the rules. I accept that, because I enjoy the site, and don't appreciate flame wars. That has nothing to do with democracy or anti-democracy. You get to choose whether you visit this site or not. And Wurm gets to decide whether your visit fits within his parameters. I think on internet sites, this is generally the case...

Anonymous 26 Feb 2011, 16:38

So, according to specs4ever, having some kind of glasses fetish makes people tolerate anti-democratic structures more easily? Or even favour them?

Specs4ever 26 Feb 2011, 15:47

Art, your view has no bearing on this site. Wurm is the guy who runs it, and he is the only one who can decide what goes on here. If he decides to allow Alain to post an update every day, he can do so. If he decides that he no longer wants anyone to post links, he can do so. If he decides that this post of mine is inappropriate he can delete it, like he did to yours. This is not a democratic website, and there is no majority rule.

The only thing we can do here is be very thankful that Wurm has gone to the effort over the past 15 years of providing this website for our use.

So, please everybody, follow the rules as laid down by Wurm. I would be very disappointed if this site disappeared forever.

Art 26 Feb 2011, 15:21

I do not know what was deleted. My post disappeared. Anyway, it is my view that Alain should not be allowed to post ads disguised as real content..

Ads should be clearly marked as such, and placed in a clearly marked section. More importantly, I think we would all benefit if Alain is required to pay for these ads.

pete 26 Feb 2011, 10:21

Most of the time I would agree with that tactic but this time was different in that there were also some constructive suggestions being made regarding the inflamed issue of Alain, like SGS, selling on Eyescene.

I don't think that he quite gets that since he's now asking for money his status here has changed. As I said, people are going to kick the tires and air their opinions. When Alain acts arrogant, things escalate and get ugly. Add to that the safety one can feel with internet anonymity and some really bad behavior can occur. Deleting the posts doesn't make it go away. [Take away the money aspect and it will.] There were a few (now deleted) suggestions being made like allowing a seller such as Alain to advertise here (maybe for a fee) and stay off the threads. That way he can stand clear of criticism and the rest of us won't have to witness or become entangled in the resulting fray.

We've already seen how this plays out when there is no resolution, ie. SGS. At the same there are examples of how well things can coexist on this site (probably due in a large part to sellers acting professional).

Wurm 26 Feb 2011, 01:12

I used to let those things go on longer (at least sometimes) but on reflection I wasn't really happy with the result. So I've been a little more consistent about removing or otherwise discouraging this stuff during the last couple of years.

pete 25 Feb 2011, 23:55


Regarding this post you made in Seen on the Web:

[Wurm 25 Feb 2011, 22:26 I deleted 10 posts due to a "flame war". There were a couple of posts that might have been OK, but they were orphaned when the others were deleted.

Suggestions for new site policies and the like should go in Site Feedback and News.]

Since you're open to suggestions, maybe it's worth just letting all that inflammation sit on the page for a while. Deleting it so abruptly doesn't give many viewers a chance to see how 'stupid' we can be and maybe there is some value in that.

Bobby 20 Feb 2011, 16:54

Is there anybody here, who lives in Gottingen?

If so, mail me, please.

lazysiow 09 Feb 2011, 11:52

How about a new forum for links and videos to that "myopic stare"/look that many of us like?

nickweymouth 02 Feb 2011, 09:03

dear freind thank you

Bobby 02 Feb 2011, 01:02

The story website has been updated. There are 2 new stories by Specs4ever and a new morph by Bobby. Link

midnight 14 Jan 2011, 16:29

no one has the story i am looking for at all??? called crime and punishment

 14 Jan 2011, 16:01

oh, i'm sorry. this is a correct link :)

 14 Jan 2011, 15:58

nickweymouth, try this one

Andrew 14 Jan 2011, 13:39


Are you thinking of "Heroes in Silver Rimms(sic)" in the "Other authors" section on Bobby's site. It's about a girl called Ginger, but she does have to get bifocals.

Bobby 13 Jan 2011, 17:21

To help those, who would like to download the complete archive, and to avoid problems with the website (which is free, so it might be sometimes unavailable or too slow) I placed the complete archive in RAR format here:

Bobby 13 Jan 2011, 14:51

The broken links at the website with the archive of the old eyescene threads has just been repaired.

midnight 13 Jan 2011, 11:26

no although i have read that one its about a girl who goes to jail for a crime she commited and gets a sentence of poor vision

nickweymouth 13 Jan 2011, 11:21

am hoping some one can help me please am looking for a gwg srory callded amy

0she has to get bifocals

maesser 13 Jan 2011, 11:12

is it this one?

midnight 13 Jan 2011, 11:05

there was a story i was looking for from a long time ago i believe puffin wrote it its called crime and punishment i love that story if anyone has it i wass wondering if you could send it my way

Bobby 13 Jan 2011, 09:19

I will have a look at the problem with the old archive, tonight. Although I cannot promise anything, as my HDD, were the files had been, went to the happy hunting grounds last summer, there is a chance to restore it. (Just one of several small disasters that happened last year.)

I believe, there should be a copy of the files somewhere in the boxes with CDs and DVDs.

Stan 13 Jan 2011, 08:47

The download error on the 1999 archive is just a 404 in Slovak, "Sorry, the page you requested was not found."

pince 13 Jan 2011, 08:24

I've not posted for years...since the old eyescene days!

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All4Eyes 13 Jan 2011, 00:10

Oops, looks like someone left the door open on that "ES time machine", Yuen-Ming has reappeared in the strong glasses thread.

 12 Jan 2011, 17:56

The archive of the second Eye Scene gives some strange foreign language error when trying to download the 1999 sets. All I can deduce is that means they are inaccessible or lost.

Stan 12 Jan 2011, 13:01

Wow, I must really be neglecting this site. I just discovered the old domain name no longer works. Looks like Wurm told us about the change in August. I could swear I have visited ES since then. Perhaps both names were working for a while. Anyway, glad to see ES still exists. Happy New Year to all.

Wurm 12 Jan 2011, 11:58

Bobby kindly hosts the archived Eye Scene files. Many of the stories from the old forum can also be found on his story site:



Pete7 12 Jan 2011, 11:12

How do you get back to the way back machine for the old eye scene stories and such? Thanks

Melyssa 06 Jan 2011, 13:16

Based on what I've read on this thread lately, this is why I've always been upfront with things, telling everyone my age and marital status (which of course turns off sooooo many men -- LOL), prescription strength, and love for big, bold, and beautiful glasses.

A goal of mine has been to get more women interested in wearing large frames, and for men to want their significant others to wear them, which would perhaps light a fire under the optical stores to get some.

In addition, since discovering this site (sight?) a lot of many years ago, I have learned a lot about vision as well, for which I'm grateful.

myofan 06 Jan 2011, 11:22

No, she's referring to a "Jennifer" from the "polls days" back around 1999 or 2000. Many of us were CRUSHED when we found out she wasn't "real".

Jennifer 06 Jan 2011, 10:47

Are you talking about me? Or another Jennifer. I've been on this scene since about 2003. Not sure why you would call me a fake?

All4Eyes 06 Jan 2011, 01:18

Yay Bobby!!!! About all this Carrie business, I do understand the appeal in pretending to be the object of one's attraction, but I also understand how disappointing it is to become emotional attached/involved with someone (which I think we OOs do with our favorite GWG's/MIG's, at least to an extent)and then find out that person was not "real" (I truly lost a little bit of my innocence when I discovered Jennifer and crew of the Extremely Nearsighted Women of Eyescene Society from the old Eyescene poll days were fakes). LOL the Southpark pic, actually I like bigger MIG's too, if that guy had more hair on his head and less on his face he'd be right up my alley! Did that sound bad or do I just have a dirty mind tonight? 8-/

Slit 05 Jan 2011, 07:01

Congratulations Bobby!

And just a suggestion. Dieteris crossing 20+ stories. What is the point you allocate a separate section for an author?

Wurm 05 Jan 2011, 05:27

I haven't turned on that kind of detailed logging for the site, Bobby. I did have something like that going for the old domain though.

When someone links to a photo it tends to get around 300 hits. So regular posters are definitely a minority on the site.

Bobby 05 Jan 2011, 03:04

Wurm, can you see the lurkers, too? I mean passive users, who olny read and never contribute.

Wurm 04 Jan 2011, 22:38

Reviewing a year's worth of log data, 80 active users looks about right. 85 users had 24 or more posts in 2010. Removing the two common accounts "guest" and "anon" leaves 83 unique user names.

I think I used similar methods to arrive at 70 a few years ago, so perhaps we've grown a bit. Thanks everyone for using the site!

Jennifer 04 Jan 2011, 17:46

Unnamed poster who used the cartoon of an overweight glasses wearing computer user...Why do you assume that a person who uses multiple names has to be male??? You guys can't imagine a gwg playing tricks on you...LOL

Wurm, I love your site and visit it frequently. Thanks for providing a forum for us!

Thanks to Bobby for allowing writers to showcase their stories of glasses and everything that goes with it. Love reading them...

Love those Men in Glasses!

Bobby 04 Jan 2011, 17:31

OMG, we have broken a record today!

the website with stories has got more than 1000 page views today! WOW!

See for yourself:

Bobby 04 Jan 2011, 17:09

We all are just mutual imaginary personalities. Nobody is real. :-)

glassesforeveryone 04 Jan 2011, 16:14

Apologies for the flippant "I'm Spartacus" joke (couldn't resist). I am an often-time lurker and occasional poster and really appreciate your efforts Wurm.

I would imagine that there is something in the psyche of people with a fetish (doesn't that sound lurid?) that makes them more likely to don a false name occasionally when posting. Unless it's off-topic or offensive or just plain banal then it doesn't bother me when people do it.

As a matter of fact, I'm a little worried that nobody (as far as I am aware) has ever posted under my pseudonym!

 04 Jan 2011, 15:47

Finally I found a picture of Carrie!

 04 Jan 2011, 15:42

Wurm... Something that's really been bugging me. Can you settle the recent debate over the infamous LauraC? Did she also post under multiple usernames from the same IP address?

Mark One 04 Jan 2011, 10:57

Filthy, no I used just plain Mark from poll #2 until a few years ago when I appended the One to avoid inadvertent confusion with other Marks. I believe Green now goes by tinyeyes.

Filthy McNasty 04 Jan 2011, 10:44

Mark One: were you also known as Green?

Val 04 Jan 2011, 04:52

Happy New Year to all Eyescene readers (and writers). Just got home from my short vacation from the mountains and I am happy to see that Bobby's site was updated with many stories. Thank you Wurm, Bobby, Specs4ever, Dieter, Cactus Jack, and many others...

I became an Eyescene reader in 2000 or 2001, and I always had a great time reading the posts. I am not a big poster because english is not my native language and sometimes when I can't find my words I just let others to say it better.

Astra 04 Jan 2011, 03:27

A happy 2011 for everyone.

- Astra

Slit 04 Jan 2011, 02:22

Thanks Dieter!

I am also trying to develop the skill of writing, not planning to reveal any writings till I am happy about the quality of script.

You have a very good way of writing. Especially, Fantastic Friday, Super Sunday, Madisson, Savannah's Brother are exceptionally good!

What I always like is the balance between reality, the gradual increase of lens power along the story, the vivid descriptions of the encounters someone has with glasses and without glasses.

Keep it up!!

Mark One 04 Jan 2011, 01:48

Let me weigh in as another long, long, long (ancient even)-timer. Wurm's efforts are much appreciated. He shows more patience and kindness than I could or would.

I helped out with moderation in a previous version of the site so I got to see IP addresses for posts. Discovering that supposedly distinct people were writing from the same computer, even having conversations between themselves, left me disappointed and rather unwilling to engage with newcomers. Hence my tendency to lurk more and post less.

That said, I'm also very happy to see new stories on Bobby's site. Much appreciated. Cheers to all the authors for their hard work. I particularly enjoyed Julian's two. But then the hugger does know his audience.

Specs4Me 03 Jan 2011, 23:42

I've been lurking around here for 10 or 12 years. I post every now and then but mostly lurk. I'm usually here at least once a day to see what is going on in the various threads that I like to follow.

I complement Wurm for the job that he does in keeping the site clean and free of trash posts. Let's not forget that Wurm owns the site, polices it and makes it available to all of us. In policing the site he is going to occasionally delete posts that he thinks are trols when they aren't, Oh Well, stuff occurs. It's his site and he can delete whatever he chooses and doesn't owe anyone an explanation. Deal with it!

Wurm, I once again thank you for the site and the effort that you put in to keep it clean and runnig smoothly.

Bobby, Welcome back, glad that things are woking out for you. We certainly missed you. Happy New Year 2011.

S4E & Dieter, THANKS!


Dieter 03 Jan 2011, 21:24

Carrie, real or not, you should be writing your thoughts for Bobby's site. You definitely got my attention and I can't wait to hear more.

specs4ever, thank you. "Bodacious" seemed more timely when I finished it 6 months ago. Big and chunky frames seem to be taking over now (not that there's anything wrong with that) but wide-temples are still showing great popularity.

matthewson, you scared me at first but thanks for your comments. I get in a lot of trouble for my sarcasm especially with Mrs. Dieter.

Slit, you're one of the ones that keeps me going.

Bobby, as always thanks for what you do for all of us . . . and welcome back to the fray.

lentifan 03 Jan 2011, 18:25

Hear! Hear! to that, Mark.

Mark 03 Jan 2011, 18:12

I think i'd fit into the "lurker" category,

On here on usually a daily basis checking up on things.

Very rarely end up posting things as usually someone's either having the same idea as me, or close enough that posting more of the same old thing isnt needed.

I've found that sites come and go, and the truly great ones like this take a very good individual or team to keep it running and more importantly not overloaded with spam / fake / bad language / kids etc etc

So i'd like to extend my thanks to Wurm for doing what he's done over the years and my thanks to those regular posters / providers of pictures and stories that keep this all alive


Soundmanpt 03 Jan 2011, 17:55


Now that I think about it I guess there are only maybe around 70 regular people in here that you see on a regular basis. It is really too bad you can't demand seeing a form of ID or something to police this site. I think you do a very good job trying to watch over it. I must admit I often times wonder if the "new" people I am answering are really new or a fake player.

For what it is worth I think that "Emily" takes care of the Lenchat chat room and she has kicked a few people out. But I am sure she has a tough time finding all the fakes.

My computer was down for a full month from Nov 25th till Christmas eve and I was about to go mad not being able to come here. Maybe many thought it was better that I was gone, but I missed it a lot.

Bobby 03 Jan 2011, 17:26

Said Tom the Hungarian, although he was a good author, created a female fake, who sent me dozens of hearbreaking e-mails. After a time, I almost jumped into my car and drive to Budapest in Hungary to save the poor bestpectacled girl. :-D Fortunately, Lenslover sent me some pix in time, and attached with an analysis of the background of the pictures and a link to a porn site. Of course, "The-poor-magyar-kissaszony" was totally fake. Later I gave 5000 Czech bucks to a hacker who found Tom's other e/mails, his real name and even his real address. Well, Mr. Tamas N. M. was very surprised when he got my angry e-mail into his standard civil mail box. :-D :-D. Nevetherless Tom wrote some very good stories, because he had very strong imagination and quite a good style.

Crystal Veil 03 Jan 2011, 16:23

70 - thank you, Wurm, for this valuable information, also for writing about your policy of guarding this website. My own guess would have been a few hundreds. I'm now all the more appreciative of your work which is mainly behind the curtains!

Wurm 03 Jan 2011, 15:20

There are about 70 active users. There are also lots of regular lurkers and occasional posters (probably several hundred in those categories). I'm sure there are some legitimate one-time posters as well.

lentifan 03 Jan 2011, 15:11

Wurm, are there only 70 'actual' users of the site? Of course, it may depend on what you mean by 'actual'. But I did think it was more than that.

Rayray 03 Jan 2011, 14:50

Lenschat is so utterly taken over with these 'characters' as to have become absurd - I for one applaud your policy Wurm.

Wurm 03 Jan 2011, 14:41

Actually, I shouldn't encourage this sort of thing on Lenschat - I don't run the site and don't know what the policy is there if any.

And Tom the Hungarian once ran a lesbian priest character, so he's already taken home the creative ES trolling trophy.

Wurm 03 Jan 2011, 14:32

The problem with just allowing people to run multiple characters is that a few people running a dozen characters each would soon overwhelm the seventy or so actual users of the site.

If we assume all the British schoolgirls who have wandered through with their blurry, achy eyes are your creation, how many characters are you responsible for already? Nearly a dozen already, I think.

Tom the Hungarian ran maybe 30 characters or more. Bifocal Bill ran his own legions of British schoolgirls, all decked out in bifocals of course (you may be the return of Bifocal Bill, for all I know). Here in the US, Nancy had her crowd of dorm-mates with bifocals and wheelchairs and limbs falling off everywhere.

I don't want all that fictional spice on my site; it has nothing to offer here. Keep it on Lenschat or write for a story site as Slit diplomatically suggested.

glassesforeveryone 03 Jan 2011, 14:12

I'm Spartacus!

Carrie 03 Jan 2011, 13:33

Slit - Thanks for the support/suggestion.

Wurm - If you don't believe me then that's your opinion. Nobody else minded or queried if I was real or not.

Surely if someone is posting stuff about glasses, they don't stray off-topic too much and don't insult other posters surely it is better to leave it rather than delete it. I would guess that most people here don't care if a poster is real or not and if they do care they will just skip future posts by that person. Deleting a post is denying everyone that choice.

I enjoy reading the posts and certainly don't care who is real and who isn't. For all I know everyone on here could be made up but that doesn't spoil my enjoyment.

I sound older because I am the youngest in my large family and have grown up with people a lot older than me. I also look and act older than my age.

Slit 03 Jan 2011, 13:08

Hi Carrie,

Anyways, you will do much better if you become GWG story writer, and perhaps will get published on bobby's site also.


Wurm 03 Jan 2011, 12:14

Usually trolls just disappear after posts are deleted, perhaps to return later under another name. This is a new twist.

Your modus operandi of young girls with "achy" or "blurry" eyes is all over the place here. Another user was using the same IP and also had the old eye ache several months back.

Also, your constant use of terms current in the 80s and 90s give you away as being much older than 17.

Post after post of far-fetched personal tales are always suspicious. And yours went most decidedly over the top. Reading back through it the only wonder is that I didn't act sooner. What amazes me is that after going so far with this as to make up a story about insertion, you've decided to stand your ground.

Finally, there is never any real background. These characters enter our little world with a prescription and a templated question. All we learn about them is whatever is needed to drive the stories forward. No depth of personality, no mundane activities, no real interest in others. Every friend is another glasses wearer who somehow fits the template. The contrast with real people on the site is stark.

People have successfully run alternate personalities on this site, sometimes for years. But "Carrie" is not going to be one of them.

 03 Jan 2011, 10:41


Carrie 03 Jan 2011, 07:50


I have just noticed that a couple of my recent posts have been removed and replaced with the message "post deleted - troll, multiple usernames"

I've only been posting on this site since September, not long after I got glasses. All the posts under the name of Carrie are mine (nobody else has "hijacked" my name and been posting stuff - I have checked)and I have not posted under any other name.

I could understand if a post had been removed if I had been sexually explicit (I know I was a bit descriptive a couple of times) but as we are all adults here (I may be 17 but I am legally an adult) and there is no access restriction to the "XXX Links" section I assume that is ok.

No hard feelings, if you stop deleting my posts.



specs4ever 03 Jan 2011, 07:28

Glad it was a joke Matthewson, as I was prepared to suggest that in the future you could write all the stories.

Dieter - I loved Boadacious

matthewson 02 Jan 2011, 22:54

sorry, sarcasm in last post. obviously good stories again, especially dieter's. joke didn't come across that good. thanks for the effort.

matthewson 02 Jan 2011, 15:43

welcome back bobby, glad you are ok again or i hope so.

the stories aren't good this time though, would have expected much more.

Slit 02 Jan 2011, 14:41

Welldone bobby!!!

and thanks to Dieter, Specs4ever and other writers too!!!

Wurm 01 Jan 2011, 22:16

Nice to see you back Bobby.

Best wishes for the new year.

Bobby 01 Jan 2011, 20:19

well, it is 3:18 a.m. here, so I am rather tired.

The link is:

Bobby 01 Jan 2011, 20:18

The link is still the same:

Bobby 01 Jan 2011, 20:14

The website has been updated. I hope it works all right, as the website seems to reach the limit of the number of files, however, do not worry, I will solve the problem during January.

There are 14 new stories from 6 authors, 2 of which are new.

specs4ever 01 Jan 2011, 16:25

Hi Boris:

I think maybe the name of the story might be:"Have I Told You Lately that I Loved You." This is in my section of Bobby's site and was published in November of 2007

Melyssa 01 Jan 2011, 09:59

Now that I'm awake (LOL), I would like to wish everyone a Happy and Healthy New Year.

Boris 01 Jan 2011, 09:46


does anyone know the name of the story on bobby's site that was about a girl who worked at the bus station lost-and-found and started to wear glasses she found there? i can't find it anywhere...

Like lenses 01 Jan 2011, 00:09

If I raise my glasses everything is blurred, so will just say Happy New Year to all.

All4Eyes 01 Jan 2011, 00:01

Let us raise our glasses in a toast to health, wealth and higher rxs for those that want them in the new year! *CLINK!* Hmm, I can't drink much out of mine, only -4, not concave enough. 8-(

Puffin 31 Dec 2010, 20:15

Happy new year to all here!

still 31 Dec 2010, 15:29

Happy New Year to all of us! Bobby, I am glad things seem to be better for you. Good luck! And Chris, thanks again for this place which we enjoy.

Specs4Me 31 Dec 2010, 14:52

Best wishes for a Happy and Blessed New Year to all Eyesceners. May 2011 be very good to all of you.

Bobby 31 Dec 2010, 13:08

Bakhtalo Nevo Bersh! Happy New Year!

Things are getting better, let us hope the Year 2011 will be better that the old one.

Soundmanpt 31 Dec 2010, 10:58

Happy New Year to all! Let's hope 2011 will be better than 2010.

clare - Is 2011 the year you resolve to wear your glasses more? (haha)

Clare 31 Dec 2010, 10:36

Happy New Year everyone!

There's still some time to go till 2011 dawns here in the UK but it's time to go and get ready to celebrate. I hope you all have a great New Year's Eve and that all your wishes come true in 2011.

All4Eyes 24 Dec 2010, 23:17

Wishing all Eyesceners a Merry Christmas, Happy Kwanzaa, Happy New Year and Belated Happy Chanukah. And if you don't celebrate any of those days, a Happy, Merry and Joy-filled whatever-it-is-you-celebrate. 8-)

midnight 24 Dec 2010, 19:54

hey puffin you wrote a story a while ago that was really good and it would mean so much to me if you could send it to me again as i lost the last copy you sent me when my other computer burnt out it was crime and punishment my email is if you have the time it would be very much appreciated and merry christmas to all eye sceners

Puffin 24 Dec 2010, 14:50

Wishing everyone here a Merry Christmas, whether you wear glasses or just drink from them as I do.

specs4ever 24 Dec 2010, 11:45

Looks like things didn't go as planned for Bobby, because I see the site still isn't updated. Sorry Bobby.

However I would like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year.

Hopefully things will improve next year.

All4Eyes 06 Dec 2010, 23:17

Glad to see you back Bobby! I've been worried about you, as we all have been. You have a very supportive and close-knit "family" of fellow OOs here. 8-)

Dieter 06 Dec 2010, 21:40


All I can say is W00t!!


I don't remember if I have any in the batch I sent Bobby last July, but I promise to work on more.

maesser 06 Dec 2010, 05:24

welcome back bobby.. i am checking your page almost every day.. its good that u are back :)

Mark 06 Dec 2010, 01:34

welcome back bobby all the best.

Slit 05 Dec 2010, 23:43


wish u best!!!


waiting for more plussy stories :)

Julian 05 Dec 2010, 21:05

Good to hear from you Bobby! All good wishes.


specs4ever 05 Dec 2010, 16:22

Good to see you are ok. Sorry that things have been going badly for you. Let me know if I can do anything to help you Bobby

Bobby 05 Dec 2010, 15:52

I have had really hard times. Bear with me for several more days, please. If everything goes well both technically and personally here, the website should be updated next week.

Julian 28 Nov 2010, 09:39

If you look through the posts on this thread you will see that Bobby has apparently had some problems lately. Several of us have sent material to him and keep hoping that things will sort themselves out and his site come back to life.

missing new stories 28 Nov 2010, 07:41


Does anyone know something about Bobbie Laurel and his page? There hasn't been an update of the page...I know, if nobody contributes stories there is no updates...but I'm missing it all the same.

Kudos to Bobby and his site!!!

nickweymouth 25 Nov 2010, 10:34

may one offer a happy thanksgiving to all are american colonial cousins from us all here on this side of the pond

specs4ever 20 Nov 2010, 10:49

Julian, with no insult intended to guest, if you were yourself offering to do this, I would do it in a heartbeat, because I am familiar with you as a frequent poster. But, I have no idea who guest is, or how long guest has been around. There have been a number of guest posters who were complete idiots, and while I do not think that this guest is one of them, I don't feel totally comfortable with someone I haven't known for a while. I do appreciate their kind offer, but I just wanted to explain where I am coming from, and why I am hesitant to jump on the bandwagon.

Julian 20 Nov 2010, 09:02

Yes, I agree with specs4ever & Dieter; but note that what Guest offers is a *temporary* site till Bobby is back in action.

Dieter 20 Nov 2010, 07:46


I'm going to join specs4ever and wait a bit longer for Bobby - but not too much longer ;)

specs4ever 19 Nov 2010, 07:21

I have to admit that your offer is tempting guest, however I think I will wait a little longer for Bobby to come back. Maybe someone else will give it a shot first. Thanks for the thought

guest 18 Nov 2010, 20:58

I was thinking of hosting a temp site for "glasses stories" anyone interested? Let me know..... My email address is this site of course would be non existant with bobbys return.Until he is feeling well.Bobby i hope things are going ok for you and only wish that you feel better soon i miss you.There should be a place for us to post our literary works. I am open to any and all suggestions. I was thinking a blog might suffice but if anyone has a different idea let me know..... Also if i may suggest that it might be time to open a thread where people can post links to various stories or even there own on this website. Again all of these are just ideas let me know what you guys think.

Wurm 07 Nov 2010, 10:16

It's an interesting idea. I can see how it might bring some people in who wouldn't find us otherwise.

If someone wants to set up a fan page on Facebook I'd be happy to cooperate. Another option might be to put a Facebook "Like" button on the front page (or even on certain threads).

Brian 07 Nov 2010, 09:31

Sorry the last post was from me to Wurm. I meant to address it to him.. Sorry again about that..

Wurm 07 Nov 2010, 09:29

Have you ever thought about making an eye scene facebook page? This could attract some new viewers to your site, open up a whole new version of the site on facebook allowing using to share pictures, stories etc... and add allow a lot of regulars to get to know each other a little better. It might even allow you to get some additional advertising revenue to support the site.. Just a thought. Thanks..

Wurm 06 Nov 2010, 15:33

OK, the site update is done. I had to make some changes for the new hosting environment (this is related to the posting outage a week or so ago).

You shouldn't see any difference in the way the site works.

Please report any bugs here.

Wurm 06 Nov 2010, 15:29


Wurm 06 Nov 2010, 15:24

It should be safe to post again.

Wurm 06 Nov 2010, 15:19


Wurm 06 Nov 2010, 15:15

Posts may not show up, or may be deleted for the next several minutes while I continue with the site update.

Wurm 06 Nov 2010, 12:47

I'm doing some work on the site. Things may look a little odd in places for a while.

Soundmanpt 29 Oct 2010, 12:33


Good! I thought it was me.

Wurm 29 Oct 2010, 12:22

Looks like posting may have been down for the past 12 hours or so. I'm looking into the problem, but it should be working again now.

Dieter 28 Oct 2010, 20:07

From an author's standpoint, Bobby does all the hard work allowing us the time to be creative. I do hope his problems can be resolved soon.

specs4ever 28 Oct 2010, 06:11

I am happy to tell you that I have a batch of them ready to go Slit.All we have to do is wait for Bobby to get back in action.

Slit 27 Oct 2010, 23:58


Sounds good! Looking forward to read your creative stories. Especially with +rxs, hyperopia, premature presbyopia, bifocals and varifocals related stories.

If private communication needed please request my "incognito email ID"


Looking forward to next lot of high minus stories too!

specs4ever 27 Oct 2010, 23:37

I am sure that Bobby is managing to get a chance to read Eyescen once in a while, so I would like to tell him that I miss him, and I hope that his troubles are sorted out soon.

Dieter 27 Oct 2010, 21:31


Thanks for the offer. I am quite busy at the moment but when I free up I may discuss the idea with you.

TheReader 26 Oct 2010, 14:26

I tried to contact Bobby by phone about a week ago. He seems to have some bad personal problems that prevented him from his usual internet activities.

Slit 26 Oct 2010, 04:40

Hi Dieter,

I am a big fan of yours.

If it gets delayed to be published on bobby's site, we can try a blog.

Please let me know if any help needed.


Julian 25 Oct 2010, 22:24

Now that you mention it, Dieter, I've just checked and it was in August I sent Bobby two stories. I've heard nothing, but for some reason emails have never got through from him to me so I wasn't worrying. I have a feeling his internet access was restricted or something, I do hope he's OK!

Dieter 25 Oct 2010, 19:16

I'm going to chime in with 'Midnight'. I sent several stories to Bobby to publish in mid-July but haven't heard anything from him since. I hope everything is okay. I'm getting a bit worried.

 24 Oct 2010, 23:41

Thanks, I wasn't sure.

Wurm 24 Oct 2010, 11:55

This should be the #1 result if you Google Eye Scene or Eyescene. #1 on Bing, too.

Or make a bookmark in your browser. I think pretty much every web browser has a bookmarking function.

Or maybe you can get the other site to update their link.

 24 Oct 2010, 11:45

How is the best way to find this site? I have it as a link thru something else. I don't want to looses touch with this site. Help!!!

Wurm 24 Oct 2010, 09:56

Last chance to update old bookmarks. I have put in a cancellation request for the old domain. Traffic to the old site will no longer forward here.

Wurm 14 Oct 2010, 18:20

I was donating to a favorite podcast and noticed a generous payment to support my efforts here. It was sent about a week ago. Thank you very much!

midnight 14 Oct 2010, 14:25

Wheres bobby??????

Wurm 12 Oct 2010, 15:19

Thanks for the report, I appreciate it. Should be working again now.

Slit 12 Oct 2010, 15:12

HI Wurm,

Small bug report.

The google search function on landing page is not working well.

Please check.

Thanks for all the effort of maintaining this forum!

 12 Oct 2010, 08:30

Filthy, nickweymouth, tizzara, etc. OKAY GIRLS are you finished windmill slapping each other now?

Let's get back to the show.

 11 Oct 2010, 23:55

atsa rite spelink iz nut a ishoo.

renst 11 Oct 2010, 22:12

You both mine as well be throwing fecies at one another and star in gieco commercials honestly can we please use this site for what it is supposed to be used for.

tizzara 11 Oct 2010, 18:48

Your inability to spell is annoying, as is your line of excuses ...

nickweymouth 11 Oct 2010, 14:45

last word maddam you are now a non entity persona non grata

oh and have a nice day

tizzara 11 Oct 2010, 13:25

Nick whatever your name is - yes, I've had my own experiences of depression and no, I never use it as an excuse either personally or professionally. I find it sad that you do.

nickweymouth 11 Oct 2010, 11:17

mr soundmart one appoliegies to you

Soundmanpt 11 Oct 2010, 01:18

Stop all the childish bickering! That's not what this site is about.

All4Eyes 10 Oct 2010, 20:57

Can't we all just get along!? LOL, I'm not really that upset, this sort of thing has happened bunches of times here before.

nickweymouth 10 Oct 2010, 16:36

well mr mcnasty how would describe what she was doing

Filthy McNasty 10 Oct 2010, 15:33

The douchily imperious phrase "How dare you..." has always made me chuckle.

nickweymouth 10 Oct 2010, 08:09

how dare you judge erm you dont even KNOW me do you have any metal issues if you dont you have NO RIGHT TO JUDGE ME TIZZARA

censored 10 Oct 2010, 07:34

Wurm, moving a post out of context is not even a bit better than deleting it. As i said before, those in power in china will certainly like very much the way you administer (or should I say: rule) your web site. Congratz!

tizzara 09 Oct 2010, 22:20

Since when was bipolar an excuse? How pathetic. Own up to your mental issues; don't use it as a way out. Other people have things go on in their lives too, you know.

censored 09 Oct 2010, 19:51

lol, wurm, deleting an ironic comment about the nobel peace price as off-topic just to please our chinese mass trader here. i hope you enjoy supporting the chinese government in their battle against democracy and freedom (very nobel, indeed). I'm sure they appreciate your actions very much. Well wurm, if democracy and freedom are off-topic in your cheap fetish world, feel free to delete this post as well.

nickweymouth 27 Sep 2010, 16:14

dear wurm i was another who was deleted no probs mate but all one was trying to do was agrea with the person who was putting there point of view across as for us all jumping at slightest the slightest litle thing i have a excuse im bipolar id love to know the others secrets lol

Wurm 27 Sep 2010, 12:21

I've deleted references to "stalking" since the term is vague and probably too inflammatory in this case.

Also, thanks for the feedback and particularly for using this thread to discuss the matter.

Wurm 27 Sep 2010, 12:08

I did spend some time considering what terminology to use. Other options such as "rabble rousing" have their own pluses and minuses. Cyberstalking has an unclear legal definition as it is, and is used informally and academically as well. Maybe I will just stick with "harassment" unless there is some sort of threat made.

If this is a case of cyberstalking, it's thus far a mild one. Be that as it may, I don't want to see users driven off by disparaging replies to all or most of their posts. Shall we count up how many posts critical of AHMG's posts there have been already? I imagine it's a couple of dozen at least. Multiple usernames have been used to make these posts, creating an impression of a "movement" against AHMG and trying to drum up support. This may hurt his reputation and seems unethical to say the least. Is it possible that someone was caught up mistakenly in my effort? Certainly, and if so I apologize, but I believe the effort itself is quite defensible.

If you have suggestions for the site, please put them here. I've said I will consider trying to wall off commercial posts, but frankly most people seem just fine with the odd post to a pay site as long is there is some free content to go with it.

pete 27 Sep 2010, 11:03

Re: legal point of view.

I would like to weigh-in on this subject considering I was one whose anonymous post was deleted for stalking, harassment. Honestly, my intention was not to stalk nor harass but merely meant as a conversational sigh of tiredness regarding the never-ending dribble of posts to an all-too-worn out off-subject subject.

Harassment is confrontational and there has been plenty of that here as of late. Im grateful for Wurms effort to thwart this. I understand the challenge he must face when drawing that line in the sand which posts must go/which can stay.

Ultimately, the challenge is ours to act as caring members of a community. There would be no need for policing if we each acted responsibly for our actions.

Legal Point of View 27 Sep 2010, 07:07

Sorry part of my last post got cut off.

But I wanted to say that I would just suggest deleting postings rather than trying to give a reason. As a person running this board, you have every right to do so, and don't need to justify those resons to anyone. It's much safer to simply do that rather than tread the mine waters when you start using terms that have legal, court-defined definitions.

Legal Point of View 27 Sep 2010, 07:02

I've seen numerous postings deleted lately and suddenly citing the legal term "stalking." I'm not sure you can label someone posting something controversial, and call the repeated criticism of those controversial items "stalking." If the KKK were to post regular items here, would the constant backlash be called "stalking?" If child pornographers started posting questionable pictures here and were criticized, would that be referred to as "stalking?"

Let's talk legally for a moment. The definition of stalking involves at attempt to invade one's privacy and insert yourself personally into another individual's life. Criticizing postings on a forum is FAR from meeting the legal definition of stalking and is simply expressing an opinion about another person. If the person were to followup and attempt to seek that person outside of the forum, you would find that a viable case in court. But if the same person posts repeatedly controversial things, and multiple individuals continually provide negative feedback, that is not stalking.

Wurm is open to run a forum anyway he wishes, but I would suggest from a legal point of view, that unless you have a solid lawyer ready to defend your actions in court, you avoid terms like stalking and harassment which have SOLID legal definitions.

Soundmanpt 11 Sep 2010, 01:00

I have been a member of the Lion's Club for many years and you are correct we do help many, many people that can't afford glasses. Also if there is not a Lion's Club in your area "Gift of Sight" does about the same things as we do. Thanks for the good word.

Wurm 10 Sep 2010, 14:02

Also, eyeglass collectors who get bored with certain specs can donate them to the Lions for reuse (this is an awesome program that has been running for many years - and some Eye Sceners have been directly involved).

Wurm 10 Sep 2010, 13:51

To those who have offered to make donations by mail:

First of all, thank you very much for the generous offers. I appreciate them.

Paypal seems very safe, convenient and reliable for payers. All the problems I've read about are from payees (although I have only had minor inconveniences and have used the service pretty extensively as a payee for some years now).

I don't want to set up a p.o. box for accepting payments and prefer to keep my street address private at this time. The cost of hosting is only a minor expense for me (thankfully). If you'd like to make a donation to a vision-related charity, that would be nice alternative. The Lions Club is the Eye Scene charity of record, but there are also many other fine organizations to choose from.

specs4ever 08 Sep 2010, 08:38

Hey Puffin - why not just send them along to Bobby. He is more than willing to post them on his site, and it is a whole lot less trouble than trying to maintain and update a site of your own - at least it is for me. He has been a little slow in his "monthly" updates lately, but at least he does get the stories out there, and I am not complaining, because I was running out of stories anyway.

G#8 07 Sep 2010, 16:05


I hope you do put them up somewhere and find your muse again.


Puffin 07 Sep 2010, 07:28

I have another installment of "Dear Diary" part written but never seem to have time or inclination to do much except jot down the occasional idea. I never seem to get in the mood for writing stories these days.

Maybe when it's done I'll set up a mini site somewhere, or else arrange to have someone else host it and a few other stories.

G#8 07 Sep 2010, 01:30


Not sure where to put this. Puffin where are your stories posted? I've been wanting to reread you Diary series again. I've looked and can't seem to find any of your stories.



Wurm 03 Sep 2010, 15:37

Please note: AHMG is making a weekly post about his camgirls site in the XXX links thread, and has my full approval to do so.

Complaints about site issues should be posted here. However, that particular issue is already discussed and settled.

If you feel commercial posts are ruining this site then you might try your hand at running an alternative forum. You'll be welcome to post weekly about it here.

still 28 Aug 2010, 12:34

Please send me an e-mail, too. How shall I give oyu my address privately?

JR 27 Aug 2010, 15:54

I would too. I don't like Paypal at all.

Wurm 27 Aug 2010, 13:29


I didn't know about that translation. That's interesting.

I had been thinking of the use of "orb" to describe the eyeball. So a deluxe orb could be an eye decorated with frame and lenses.

Wurm 27 Aug 2010, 13:25


What a nice post - thank you.

I'll send you an email soon.

VFL 27 Aug 2010, 02:50

C., Please send me an address where I can send you some money. (Hidden carefully in an envelope). Thank you so much and hugs and kisses to you for this wonderful site. I love you so dearly. VFL.

Val 27 Aug 2010, 02:31

Wurm, interesting coincidence, but the word "orb" (from the domain name - orbdeluxe) in romanian means "blind" .

Wurm 25 Aug 2010, 20:27

Those of you with bookmarks for Eye Scene should update them, since the old "" domain will be going away entirely in the next few weeks or months.

Front page:

Recent Threads page:

Wurm 21 Aug 2010, 12:55

The FAQ has been updated.

One question, "Why was my post deleted?", has been updated.

One question, "Do you have any pictures of women with thick glasses?", has been deleted.

One question, "How can I donate to support the site?", was added.

The FAQ is linked from the front page and is available here:

Wurm 17 Aug 2010, 20:43

Welcome to the new domain. Everything should work about the same. If you spot any bugs, please let me know.

Lv2c4i 13 Aug 2010, 11:26


hope the move goes smoothly and thanks for the initial head's up.

Thanks too for the service you provide for us all.

Wurm 13 Aug 2010, 10:15

Eye Scene will be on the move soon, as the domain will be going away (my host is phasing out their subdomains). I'll try to provide plenty of notice regarding the new address, and get Google to re-index the site as soon as possible.

Yeti 28 Jul 2010, 04:56

Thank you Val :)

Val 28 Jul 2010, 04:54

I've reuploaded on Easy share the "Lots of Links" thread - saved in 9 April 2009.

Yeti 28 Jul 2010, 02:38

Could you please remind me where can I find "lots of links" thread archived ?

Thanks in advance

Bobby 25 Jul 2010, 15:44

Thank you! It is nice!

Dky. To je mil.

But ... who are you?

Ale ... kdo jsi?

Mail me!

POli mi maila!

silente reader 24 Jul 2010, 14:52

Happi birthday, Bobby.

Vsechno nejlepsi k narozeninam, Bobe.


Bobby 12 Jul 2010, 16:45

My story site

got updated. There are 2 new stories by Specs4ever (The Psychiatrist and The Myopia Injection).

There is also a new seven-part story written by me (Minaret), unfortunately it is only in the Czech version and it is a wheelchair story.

Andrew 29 Jun 2010, 11:01

I guess part 2 might be the increase in power 6 months later plus a need, shortly afterwards, for bifocals. The how and the why, however, would be up to you...

Dieter 28 Jun 2010, 16:14

Since I released Savannahs Brother last December, Im a bit startled to read discussion here 6 months later. I thought of it as a nice but somewhat fluffy story, so its gratifying to find it was well liked by so many. I currently have no plan for a sequel because I have no ideas, but ideas pop up like weeds, so . . . . . .

I think I speak for all authors on this site when I say, tell us what you like. Sometimes that comes as a complete surprise.

nickweymouth 26 Jun 2010, 04:08

dan and julian 100 percent agrea great story dont need a part 2

Dan 25 Jun 2010, 19:22

Completely agree that Savannah's Brother is one of the better ones! And I don't think it needs a part II either. It's stories like those that make me wish I was hyperopic and/or find a girl who is hyperopic haha

63.117.244.xx/Automated Library Information System/Nassau Library 23 Jun 2010, 14:53

post deleted - troll

meme 23 Jun 2010, 12:42

I think I agree I remember the title but not the story. Where can we find it now ? time to read again...

Julian 23 Jun 2010, 12:14

Anonymous poster: I agree that 'Savannah's brother' is a particularly good story - but I don't think it needs a Part 2, it seems complete in itself.

 23 Jun 2010, 09:29

I just want to say "Savannah's Brother" is the best story I've ever read on the site. It really needs a part 2 (hint, hint to whoever wrote it)

Dieter 14 Jun 2010, 18:43

Bobby, I really enjoyed reading your new story. Glad to see you found your voice again!

Bobby 13 Jun 2010, 00:20

Thank you Slit. I wrote some more stories, but they are not in English, and they are not about glasses. So, no use publishing them here.

Slit 12 Jun 2010, 22:02

Thanks and congratulations bobby!!!

its was after 3 yrs i ges u published ur own story.

i really enoyed it, and engrossed, wish i would go through same one day :)

Bobby 11 Jun 2010, 21:04

The link is:

Bobby 11 Jun 2010, 20:57

Hi readers, I have just updated my website. There are 3 new stories for you, 2 of them are written by Specs4ever, 1 of them is written by myself. Three new morphs of celebrities were added, as well. Have fun.

anon 04 Jun 2010, 16:00

It does work, Still! Thank you for that.

Wei 04 Jun 2010, 09:47

Yes, I think of mysodiscs. Very nice. Frame wooden of course I think.

Tim 04 Jun 2010, 07:58

Excellent - many thanks!

still 03 Jun 2010, 09:45

may work.

anon 03 Jun 2010, 04:49

Yes. But I found a link a few weeks ago which still got me into glastory's site, bypassing the Turkish hacker. unfortunately I didn't make a note of it.

Can anyone help?

Tim 02 Jun 2010, 22:32

What has happened to Glastory's site (the excellent Russian morphs)? It seems to have been hijacked by some Turkish troll!

 02 Jun 2010, 14:13

Following post is still there in Seen on the Web. Can it please be removed? Anyone else's post like this would have been instantly removed!

Spexysandra 26 May 2010, 15:31

I do not see why all you annoying little douchebags have your panties in a wad about this. Let me make it simple for you: I am keeping the photos for myself, and there is nothing you can do about it.

Oh, and my English is fine, professor. It's probably a lot better than yours.

Now fuck off and leave me alone

ehpc 30 May 2010, 11:32

In fact the 'spexysandra' character was, as these people always are, 'all mouth and no trousers'. Flikr has deleted the site.

 30 May 2010, 10:20

It would be nice if the following attack against all Eyescene users could be deleted:

Spexysandra 26 May 2010, 15:31

I do not see why all you annoying little douchebags have your panties in a wad about this. Let me make it simple for you: I am keeping the photos for myself, and there is nothing you can do about it.

Oh, and my English is fine, professor. It's probably a lot better than yours.

Now fuck off and leave me alone.

Astra 30 May 2010, 01:35

I guess Wei likes wooden frame.

Astra 30 May 2010, 01:31

Who's Wei? He seems funny.

ehpc 29 May 2010, 13:00

ha ha ha :)

Wei 29 May 2010, 12:41

I wei i think! Is posting of mysodisc. Is looking of lens and yes line bifocal! So is many many frame very nice in rimless very thick! So of frames i think wooden? And of prisms base?

ehpc 29 May 2010, 12:16

Evidently someone is sending up 'Wei' posts :) Very amusingly, in fact :)

Filthy McNasty 27 May 2010, 19:41

All these recent histrionics just represent a little ES market correction. The Stephan and Sandra characters are reinventing (or de-inventing) themselves, and ad2412 and SGS have their respective sets of panties in a bunch over their little transaction. It will all blow over sooner than later.

Puffin 27 May 2010, 17:09

Hoping this nonsense is going to pass and we can get back to normal ASAP.

Wurm 27 May 2010, 16:09

I don't think I've ever censored profanity.

Anyway, maybe 5% of recent posts have contained a profanity. One user, or perhaps two? We're not exactly overrun with it.

John B 27 May 2010, 14:47

Why is all this profanity suddenly allowed on this board and not deleted? Have the rules changed?

Melyssa 27 May 2010, 12:52

To me it's about as exciting as watching grass dry and paint grow. But the four-letter words have no place on this site.

 27 May 2010, 12:12

This is getting almost as exciting as Grey's Anatomy.

Jennifer 27 May 2010, 11:44

ehpc, I would consider it UNLIKELY.

ehpc 27 May 2010, 11:41

It is of course POSSIBLE that Sandra and spexysandra are the same person, although I personally would consider this unlikely.

Wurm 27 May 2010, 11:35

I think some people are bit confused about the cast of characters in this latest web drama:

Stephan: photographer; guy who sells the "Sandra" branded glasses and other stuff

Sandra: Stephan's model and erstwhile girlfriend

Spexysandra: Someone who uploaded some of Stephan's photos to Flickr, apparently without permission

Guest OO 27 May 2010, 09:49

Spexysandra has lost her mind telling everyone to f...k off! please block her IP address like any other problem user. No special ignorance again please. Think about how we all have to read her garbage posts.

NICKWEYMOUTH 27 May 2010, 06:09

hear hear annominous poster

 27 May 2010, 05:09

A couple of threads have really gone downhill with a horde of personal attacks, and if we're being fair here, they should be eliminated just like all the others have been in the past regardless of how long these folks have been around. Sometimes these things get dragged into court, and not sure if EYESCENE wants to be discussed in a courtroom

In GLASSES FOR SALE, SGS and AD2412 are duking it out publicly calling each other liars and trying to destroy each others character.

In SEEN ON THE WEB, SpexySandra is using excessive profanity along with Stephen after their breakup and following public arguments over their pictures.

This used to be a nice site where I could come to get away from all the DRAMA of the world, but it now seems that EYESCENE is letting things go that - in the past - would have been immediately deleted.

Can we get some moderation in those discussions, please?

Dieter 17 May 2010, 18:45

Anonymous poster from May 2nd, I have been working on the road since the first of the year. I'm home for now and trying to get caught up. I have some stories in the works and hope to get them ready soon. Thanks for your interest.

midnight 05 May 2010, 19:55

bobby your site is my favorite site on the web its very well put together and has provided me sufficently for atleast 7 years thank you for everything you do

Bobby 05 May 2010, 13:31

Jules, "is going to reach up the capacity" does not mean we are full. It means I need to think on step forward. So, do not hesitate sending any text. BTW, the texts are small, the pix are the real problem.

I will change the name of the authors.

Julian 05 May 2010, 13:24

Hi again Bobby. 'She thinks my spex are sexy' is by Marie alias All4Eyes; and Willy's song is by Willy. They were originally posted on EyeScene, and I added them to the Yahoo group 'glassesfetishfiction'. Rick, the founder, left me in charge of this group and I finally decided to close it down the other week. I have some other stuff from there for you, but I'm taking note of what you say about you site getting full!

The links from Izzy's 'gayglassesfetishfiction' group have been lost too, as they were on geocities and that's no more!

Bobby 05 May 2010, 12:20

Julian, do you know the author? Who is it?

Thank you for your kind words. You know, some years ago, I decided to share my archive of the old Eyescene and VisionWorldForum with the others, and it was quite natural, to pick up the stories originally posted to the discussion and gather them in one place. And after a time (several years actually) the collection has grown to the size you know. The website is going to reach up the capacity so I need to think where to move it. It is 72 MB of data, and the website on my HD consists of 2100 files (more than half of them are technological files providing the ability to link everythig together, the smaller half of them are files with the stories of pictures) in 56 folders. Now, I am experimenting with another site where I could move the whole collection.

BTW does anybody know when I started the bobbygoc site? I have forgotten when it was.

Julian 05 May 2010, 11:35

Yes, the two poems are not 'by Julian' so much as 'submitted by Julian' - I don't want to claim authorship of things I didn't actually write! But there's some great new fiction there. I agree: Bobby is great!

Bobby is great 05 May 2010, 10:19

I have to say that I love the range of stories you have Bobby. There is something for everyone!

Keep it up

Katy 05 May 2010, 04:27

Marie, I love your song - fantastic!! x

gwgs 05 May 2010, 03:02

Fantastic first story Specs4Ever, and thanks for Bobby for uploading it, and Andy for the link - it is a truly memorable story - if only such things were available in real life!

All4Eyes 05 May 2010, 00:28

This update is a great birthday present for me! Thanks Julian for sending my song lyrics in.

I ALWAYS make passes at guys who wear glasses, Marie 8-)

Andy 02 May 2010, 12:14

Look here:



 02 May 2010, 11:56

I don't know about some people but i remember some of the older stories of eyescene and how fond i was of them. I liked the stories where women were taught a lesson and had been given glasses or forced in to them case in point forced goc rick and allison crime and punishment these stories really intrigued me don't see much of that these days would love to see it again. dieter i quite enjoy most of your stories was wondering when we get to see something from you next.

Bobby 02 May 2010, 06:12


go to

Julian, my dear, friend I am sorry I misplaced your poems and the story.

Bobby 02 May 2010, 05:36

I have found them. I will upload the toda, plus something more written by Maria T.

Bobby 02 May 2010, 04:00

Julian, I will have a look. Wait, please.

Julian 01 May 2010, 16:48

Hey Bobby, I sent you a story and two poems in February. Didn't you get them?

Bobby 01 May 2010, 12:27

A small update of my website:

2 new stories by Specs4ever and a morph.

glassesforeveryone 01 May 2010, 03:48

Thanks for your kind words avid reader. I just re-read Sarah's story and some of the grammar and spelling almost brought me to tears!

I've been meaning to write a story about Becca's adult life as a tennis player and beyond.

I've also got a story in my head about a detective, so I will at some point send Bobby something. I'll also check the grammar and spelling!

Val 30 Apr 2010, 05:00

KeenGlassesStoryReader, we certainly hope so !

Bobby's work, of collecting stories and storing them on his website is very important for the ES community. But, there are only a few authors that have written more than 1-2 stories. So we have to be patient. Anyway the stories on Bobby's site were written between 1998-2009 so it's a long period of time.

KeenGlassesStoryReader 30 Apr 2010, 02:38

Are there going to be any more updates to Bobby's site?

avidreader 29 Apr 2010, 01:50

I've really enjoyed reading all the stories on your site Bobby. There are some fantastic stories there. I was actually moved to tears by 'The Definition of Cool' (part 2)!

Thanks for the service you provide giving these great authors a platform. And thanks also to Wurm for introducing me to Bobby's site in the first place.

Thanks over, I'm going back to Bobby's to continue reading.

Therouteur 21 Apr 2010, 21:33

I'm always a little late opening up my latest "New Yorker". I like to savor the experience. Which is why I belatedly draw the attention of anybody who hasn't seen it to the article on p 46 of the 29 March edition, "Four Eyes, looking for glasses" by Patricia Marx

 06 Apr 2010, 11:17


If you see this, please email me.


Channing 31 Mar 2010, 10:57

Hi all, I've posted the results of my second survey on the Psychology of Glasses thread. To continue my survey series, I've posted a pair of surveys about frames and lenses preferences, please fill them out then you get a chance at . Thank you for visiting and don't forget to click on the ads!

dave 20 Mar 2010, 18:12


It was the Jesika posts I was looking for.

John S 20 Mar 2010, 17:27

Correct, as in Jesika. My BS detector was going off when I saw her first post. Wurm confirmed it.

dave 20 Mar 2010, 14:46

What does it mean in the threads when you see "post deleted - multiple usernames"?

Is this the owner rooting out fakes?

Yeti 10 Mar 2010, 01:26

Hi all,

I am looking for people from Poland, who are OO :)

Girls with glasses, who feel this thing :) for friendship and closer relations and men to share experience about everything we talk about here.

Feel free to mail at:

Greetings :)

Galileo 04 Mar 2010, 04:18

...... and today it works again!

I do live in a country where Facebook is blocked so who knows what is happening behind the scenes.

Thanks for the ideas Wurm.

Wurm 03 Mar 2010, 08:55

Are you browsing through a site filter of some kind? Eye Scene has been blocked by some content filters.

Even so, it seems strange that "Hot Threads" would work OK but not the others.

You can email me at if you'd like me to run through some questions about your internet connection, browsing configuration, etc.

Galileo 03 Mar 2010, 04:33

Hi Wurm, I'm having increasing difficulty accessing the site. I can get the home page but from there I can only access "hot threads" all other pages come up as "internet explorer cannot display the website" I get a similar message from Mozilla. From hot threads I can get back to the thread index and from there I can get to "seen on the web" and a few other pages but I get "cannot display the website" for a lot of the threads.

do you have any idea what is happening? It's been like this for a week now.


Dahl 19 Feb 2010, 14:31

Maesser, i hope ur coming back!!

you are the best!

forgive those who cant understand you

hooked 08 Feb 2010, 00:18


Great finds.

The first gril looks better without glasses but in my opinion that are glasses that do not fit her. It's not her style.

The second girl looks definitely better with glasses than without glasses.

maesser 07 Feb 2010, 13:15

here another plus girl.. she told me she is 22 and has +10 and cant see without them... her teeth are kinda big but i dont think it makes her ugly

maesser 07 Feb 2010, 12:29

we will see how long it takes that people start complaining again about their own incompetence...

i know her name is diane and i also wondered how well she did without the glasses...

i have much more recordings but have to find a proper programm to cut them.. the one i use right now lets me only cut 5 minutes out of a video...

we will see...

R Ed 07 Feb 2010, 11:23


Welcome back.

Amnesia's first name, she tells me, is Diane; she is plus 5. She does surprisingly well when she removes her glasses on your video. She is from Bulgaria and men there have convinced her she is ugly. That is horrible.

I hope you resume your excellent posts

a new try aka maesser 07 Feb 2010, 02:31

Julian 06 Feb 2010, 02:25

Great stories again, Bobby. I missed your December post till the other day, probably because I was out of the country and couldn't get online as easily as usual, but I thought specs4ever's 'Lord Burton & the apes' was extra-specially good.

Bobby updated 03 Feb 2010, 20:30

New stories, new morphs. My website got updated. Enjoy.

Wurm 28 Jan 2010, 14:40

By request, I've expanded the size of the posting box somewhat. Some people find it helpful to format their longer posts separately in a program like Word.

Therouteur 24 Jan 2010, 00:58

In re censorship, communism etc.

a) Wurm isn't a government. He owns this site and can do what he likes with it

b)Over the fifteen or sixteen years I've followed this site, Wurm has wielded his blue brush lightly and effectively. The site has been uniquely free of petty pointless bickering

c) Long may it continue! Power to your pencil, Wurm!

Wurm 22 Jan 2010, 10:32


Your wait is over:

Psychopathia Sexualis (2006)

Tales of Deviance and Forbidden Desire from the Case Studies of Krafft-Ebing

specs4ever 22 Jan 2010, 08:45

Actully, the first site I visited was a German site, and there were lts of pictures on it. There were also a number of really bad morphs, but I was sad when it disappeared. Now there are a lot of good sites from various countries, but there is still a large German presence. I have discovered more ladies who are high minus in Germany and Austria as well.

NJ 22 Jan 2010, 07:50

I can't wait for the movie.

Sorry... my humour kicks in.

Do as you all will. Do!

Wurm 22 Jan 2010, 07:34

Not sure about that but Krafft-Ebing, author of the seminal work on fetishism, was German.

Might be a good topic for "Psychology of Glasses" thread.

hooked 21 Jan 2010, 23:42

Does the German native speakers community has a higher percentage of glasses fetishists?

Knnte man fast meinen, wenn man sieht, wer hier pltzlich alles in deutsch schreibt? ;-)

linuxer 21 Jan 2010, 19:07

Herbert, in this site, Wurm's decisions is absolute. Go to other site if you don't like...

*absolute but in a good way

Glowworm 21 Jan 2010, 16:13

herbert, zu deiner info: ich arbeite selbst in einem internetforum als moderator, und wir haben dort schon mit der staatswanwaltschaft, polizei, rechtsanwlten zu tun gehabt. wir machen dort von unserem hausrecht gebrauch, und natrlich ist es ein unterschied, ob ein internetforum von einer krperschaft ffentlichen rechts oder - wie in diesem fall - von einer privatperson betrieben wird.

natrlich gilt das recht des landes, in dem der server steht. d.h. eintrge, die das geltende recht verletzen, muss Wurm sanktionieren, ansonsten riskiert er in der tat rger mit den lawyers. ungekehrt kann er allerdings alles rausfegen, was ihm nicht passt (z.b. betrachtungen ber briefmarkensammeln, wenn er dieses thema hier nicht errtert haben will), auch wenn das geltende recht entsprechende stellungnahmen erlaubt.

und viel "schlimmer" noch: Wurm kann diese seite jederzeit dichtmachen, wenn er keinen bock mehr hat - und den anwalt mchte ich sehen, fr den das dann totalzensur darstellt.

(non-germans: it's too boring to translate...)

newglasses 21 Jan 2010, 15:29


wenn es dich so erborst, dass du hier deine politische meinung nicht kundtun kannst, dann mach doch selber eine seite auf oder schreib einen blog...da kannst du deine durchaus interessanten thesen, ideen und vorstellungen niederschreiben und andere auf dieser seite nicht "langweilen", da sie berhaupt nichts mit dem thema zu tun haben.

best regards,


herbert 21 Jan 2010, 15:16


mal so ganz allgemein:

internet ist ffentlicher raum, da gilt kein hausrecht, da gilt medienrecht, presserecht und verfassungsrecht (recht auf freie rede, zensurverbot, diskriminierungsverbot) - brigens diesseits und jenseits des groen teiches ...

(es gibt kanzleien, die hier und da niederlassungen haben ;-) )

und das thema internetrecht ist spannend: es fehlt an musterprozessen ;-) - da werden klagen nicht so schnell abgelehnt ;-)

wre schade um die seite - aber: SOO nicht!


pete 21 Jan 2010, 14:26

This is getting boring. Time to go prey on some other site Herbert.

Glowworm 21 Jan 2010, 13:13

Herbert: I'd suggest you not to spend money on involving some lawyers in this issue. It's absolutely pointless. This is Wurm's site, and it his HIS decision what he accepts and what he doesn't accept. That's what we call "Hausrecht" in German. No lawyer can do anything against that.

You may think about this site what you want, but putting some lawyer's action in it isn't worth one second of work.

And no, I'm not into joining this discussion. I've had enough discussions like that, I just wanted to comment the remark about lawyers - because this is nonsense anyway, no matter how right or wrong you are with what you're saying besides that.

Specs4Me 21 Jan 2010, 12:26

Let's not forget that Wurm provides this site for those of us that have this particular preclivity for wearing glasses, especially those of the female persuasion.

It's his site, he doesn't charge us to use it, he can do anything that suits his fancy with it and frankly we don't have the right to complain. It's not a dictatorship, it's private ownership!

Lastly, Wurm does an outstanding job of running this site so those that don't like his policies should just go elsewhere and leave Wurm and the rest of us alone.

'nuff said!!!

nickweymouth 21 Jan 2010, 12:15

please we dont come to this site for politcs of any kind herbert if one doesnt like this site please go somewere else

mr worm sir please sort this wally out so normall service can be resumed

sorry folks

regards Nick

 21 Jan 2010, 09:59

Indeed !!! Regarding the anonymous poster................that's the whole point - not to 'follow' anyone!

Wurm 21 Jan 2010, 09:07

Big talker here.

Herbert 21 Jan 2010, 08:50

lol - like i said ...


i dont let me delete by you - you will hear about me by lawyer ...


ehpc 20 Jan 2010, 19:51

Unfortunately not. What nonsense. Anway - this is off-topic. The last few posts will rightly be deleted by Wurm.

 20 Jan 2010, 19:25

I guess then It's alright to agree with and follow dictators if their views are the same as your own ephc. Maybe the truth or how people can read ones actions can be rather inconvenient to Beliefs at times.

ehpc 20 Jan 2010, 18:04

I wholly agree with your general statements and direction of thought, Herbert. But deleting a post here and there is perfectly reasonable and fair. Wurm runs the site - he is simply being 'editorial' which is absolutely his perogative. No one should whinge about that.Your belief however that the West is going where the East came from I completely share.

Herbert 20 Jan 2010, 16:11

post deleted - spoof

 20 Jan 2010, 14:37

Again, what does all this have to do with the website subject?

Herbert 20 Jan 2010, 14:15

"...and is absolutely not censorious ..."

to delete statements of different thinking peoples (in internet, editorial offices, court protocols, senate- sessions) IS EVERYTIME censorship

- without exception ---


yes, i know, what im writing, BUT:

how can i warn you, you who are living on a stage of the "beginning" of those changes, who i've experienced already multiple times in history?!

i've experienced the betray against the peoples on my own body 4 times:

in the "weimar republic", in the "nazi -time", in the "dictature of prolets" (communism - and the prolets had to "shut up" -unbelieveable, it was only a do to feign) - AND: im seeing the same symptomes today again (and the same initiators(!):

brain-ill geezers (force-neurotics at the end), who, instead to sit in hospital, sitting in the parlaments, decision-positions (commerce, justice, armys, cultural management, religions, parties, unions, secret services ....) -AND: their divisions of helpers: SMALL peoples, who are working against the interests of the own and the own peoples!!

the internet is a good mirror of the society!

What would be the "international force -neurotics association" without all thoes small(!!) peoples like those millions of small sysads of their websites in internet, who're deleting all those "different thinking statements" of others (are they "second class"? - why??) in a ahead-hurrying submissivity?!

whats the cause of them? fears??

the "big ones" had to got to a psychiatrist without the help of the "small ones", cause, nobody of the big ones would be able to do this mountain of infamity by themselves alone.

means: EVERY hitler, every stalin, every bush would be only a "small boy", without those millions of "good" girls/boys, who are acting in ahead-hurrying submissivity for the goals of those brain-ill "big-ones".

THE PROBELEM: the small ones believe, they're doing right if they have a submissive behavior! and nobody has a chance to change their/this believe ...


im only seening: the western world walks in precisely this direction, where we from the eastern world come from.

maybe, nobody will hear me - but the try it is worth!

again: censorship/deleting is antihuman - on a glasses-site too.

we hadnt to loose much in the eastern world - but you HAVE: the idea of democracy (WITHOUT CYNISM!!), and the idea if a fair play (to being fair(!) in law and order too)

i hope, we can safe this - otherwise you from the western world need the same "welocome-money" like me in 1989, as i cam e to the western world.

why im writing? (i know, this is a GLASSES site!)

there cant be a pair of glasses, or a pair of eyes, which would be worth to waive the idea if fairness, freedome, abandonment of cynism and so on.

so long statements on this site (and million others ;-) ) are deleted, we're not really free ...

we shouldnt for get this ...

(sorry admin- if you had lived in this sh*t circunmstances, you would write the same ... lucky beggar, if anyone hasnt - but: please hear me!)

thats my opinion of an old, well experienced man - and i know, i cant teach you - Fate go your way ... :-((

good luck, folks ;-)


ehpc 19 Jan 2010, 14:44

Personally I think this site is magnificently run by Wurm and is absolutely not censorious. However, in a general way, Herbert's points about rule-makers and Thought Police are spot see, he knows what he is talking about as he - it appears - has lived under Communism................

Yoyo 19 Jan 2010, 13:57

Good luck getting everyone on the Internet to ask about linking to sites before doing so.

I'm just talking about the practicality of running a message board. It's ridiculously hard to police whether or not someone has gotten "permission" to link to a particular site before posting, which is why it will have to be "opt-out" (if someone doesn't like their pictures/blogs being linked to, they can take them down or make them private) rather than "opt-in," as you'd prefer.

Personally, I don't think it's unethical to link to public websites without asking permission. They are public sites, meaning everyone can see them, and those who put them up should be aware of that. Just adding a "fetish" component to the linking website doesn't change that.

SheepFormerlyKnownAsGuest 19 Jan 2010, 12:21

"in practice that's not how the Internet works"

The internet works exactly as we intend to make it work; it's not a mysterious black box that develop its own rules in an ethical and social vacuum. It's the people who decide what the internet looks like and how it works in the whole, and what this site looks like and how it works in particular. Especially there is no built-in module in the internet that scans for respectful and fair social interactions and prevents them as soon as it gets aware of it. ;)

Herbert 18 Jan 2010, 21:21

hi SheepFormerlyKnownAsGuest,

thanks for your explanations.

Im not used, to hang me into the luster with my legs.

Why alls so complicated??

Its not my place here anymore, i see - i like spiritual freedom and im used to know (without "rule-terrorism" too), what to do and what not to do.

it wasnt my intention, to come here in order to let me infantilize here ...

byee then

(i have to change my positive judgement in the past years about this site now, i see ...)

the athmospere here isnt the old one and the siciety is more and more unpleasant - there will not help rules, im sure ...

its (inverse to the times of the beginnung of tis site here) - not a win anymore (really great management, hehe ;-) )

- now the government and all rule-riders and slavesouls will be happy with this site - im not anymore - it remembers me a bit to old days in communism: maybe there are always and in all continents and systems peoples, who want to make the rules for others, dictate the thinking-patterns and contents - but i dont need such foolish games in my age anymore, god bless the younger ones ...)

i say "no" to this site now and the new "spirit" behind ...

sorry folks, i cant you recommend anymore and im sure, this site has the longest time exist in this shape ...

(i feel it ... we will see ...)


p.s.: i believe, that this private internet-censorshop, which is increasing at moment in internet, is not in conformity with international - and national rules (like constitution) - so i have a good job for our trainees, to analyze it and - maybe - to write a good degree-dissertation about it ...)

i think, it's time to stop this tendency, silent and step by step to hollow the guarantees of the constitution (btw, its the same here in germany - and the same phaenomen like in the late 20ies and early 30ies - the result is common ...)


you cant get your goal - even if you delete peoples, instead postings!

at first, their words will be deleted, then peoples themselves - it begins always with deleting words! but it dosnt work over a long time ...

(in age of 69 we've seen enough of that ...)


Yoyo 18 Jan 2010, 21:20

"Furthermore, only because a picture or other file is published somewhere on the internet, it doesn't mean that it's legal to copy it or link to it without permission"

Copy, no. Link to, yes.

Look, I respect your feelings on the morality of linking to websites without permission, but frankly, in practice that's not how the Internet works. People link to sites without asking permission all the time, and not just here. There's nothing illegal about it, and it's not generally considered unethical even in the broadest definition of the word.

SheepFormerlyKnownAsGuest 18 Jan 2010, 13:14

Edit: ... it should be *opt-in* rather than *opt-out* ...

This way it makes sense. ;)

SheepFormerlyKnownAsGuest 18 Jan 2010, 13:11

Herbert, it's not about whether Eyescene is a fetish site: clearly it is one, although some times ago Wurm has closed all the fiction threads for the reason of while Eyescene still should be fetish friendly it should not be dominated by fetishism - sorry, if I recall the wording wrong, but I think this is what has been the essence of what was said then, many years ago.

While not denying or accusing the fetish friendliness of Eyescene I've focused on the ethical aspect of having - or not having - the permission for re-contexting anyone's pictures into fetish-dominated "lots of links" or "a little less than lots of links" (also known as "seen on the web") threads. And getting this permission is what IMHO a respectful and fair treatment of people should be about - among others things, of course.

If people are fine being linked here it's fine for all of us as well, if not we should accept and respect this. But it shouldn't be opt-out rather than opt-in, what means: ask first, post later. And if that would drop the number of links, so be it; the gain would be a much better reputation of this community in the glasses wearer's eyes!

Furthermore, only because a picture or other file is published somewhere on the internet, it doesn't mean that it's legal to copy it or link to it without permission: being used as "fetish food" could hardly be considered "fair use".

Lastly Herbert, of course we could continue this conversationn in german, but this would be equally rude against other readers as mass linking is against the people who are shown in those pics.

Herbert 18 Jan 2010, 02:23

post deleted - flame

Bobby 17 Jan 2010, 21:00

post deleted - flame

Herbert 17 Jan 2010, 17:16

sorry, folks,

(maybe im a fool, but:) i dont understand the problem. any tips, arguments?

i mean: its a good and stable forum about glasses and all those, who find glasses not "horrible" (like my (schizopphrenic??) ex-wife, who was sulky about me, as i sayd: "i like you with glasses AND without" - what can a man do, if both ways not welcome by the lady?

1. advise a good psychologist for the wife, and

2. search for a good divorcing-lawyer


if anyone, who needs glasses and dosnt like glasses - has a schizophrenic personality (in a clinical sentence), its crazy (brain-ill) not to like a urgently needed help.

but: we cant (and shouldnt want to) stop needs, not to became a "jerk-off-template" for everybody! we have to respect human rights and law and order!!

THAT was the idea of my question about the "aesthetical border" and the criterias for a "good taste"

we should to seek to "open" glasses wearers for the "new" reality (new for them , maybe), if glasses not an horror always and for everybody (i believe, since the first outing of "glasses-fetishits in internet we're living in a different world in this point - the glaasses-commercials show this impressive) - BUT:

- to try to "fool" glasses wearers by "cryptic forum rules" will not work - im sure ...

"stay cool and have a long breathe" is the motto .... ;-)



sorry for my "english" - we can continue in german, if needed ;-)

Herbert 17 Jan 2010, 16:53

Hi SheepFormerlyKnownAsGuest,

i believe, i understand your statement very well, but: eyescene IS a fetish site - everybody can see it, if he's reading here more than 60 seconds ;-)

to try to deny it, (or to try to mask this, would be naive ;-) )

so the best way, to stop the "picture-deleting-orgy" of the "victims" of such internet-interest like here (whatever it is in the single case) would be: to shutdown eyescene comppletely (like "lots of links" - it wasnt bad in my eyes ...) and everybody with "private interests" about glasses can search "his" (mostly his, less "her" - an intresting circumstance) internet-contents "private" (means "silent" ;-) ) and without any fears, glasses-wearers have to see themselves as "victims" (what would be naive too: if im posting in internet, i should know, that the WHOLE world can see me - friends, enemys, angels, devils and every creazy and brain ill person, who has a link to the internet ...)

like i said: whats the problem?? you're really in fear, some peoples could delete their pictures/postings about their glasses in internet?

we've nearly 4 milliards of peoples here on this planet - and every day will born new ones - whats your fear?? ;-) you cant stop the spin of the world ...

enjoy, so long it exists ....



SheepFormerlyKnownAsGuest 17 Jan 2010, 16:15

Herbert, the problem is that people (who are mostly completely unaware of the existence of glasses fetishism) don't like to be linked here into a fetish context. This could easily be seen many times when the linked pictures or movies were taken down within hours after the owner learned about being "victim" of a group of fetishists. An no, fetishism is not generally harmless as has been said before. IHMO a fetish that is related to something many people would love to get rid off (e.g., _strong_ glasses, if not glasses in general) is not harmless in so far as the "victims" have no choice to choose not to be targeted (cyberstalked). And this is why linking media files without the owner's permission is not Ok in the context of _this_ site, regardless of the fact, that they have published these files in their own context before. And by deleting their files as soon as they noticed they have been used for fetishism purposes, the owners themselves make a strong statement that they also think, it's not Ok. So it's not Ok, and Herbert and other mass posters should humbly accept this.

maesser 17 Jan 2010, 14:33

i see that here are still a lot of people that are just complaining without doing something supportive for the forum...

Herbert 17 Jan 2010, 07:02

hi lidz,

whats the problem?? (and btw: what was the cause to stop this "lots of links?? - im not a "permanent reader" here - should i know something about eye-scene-history?)


Lidz 17 Jan 2010, 05:44

This is just my opinion, but I think Herbert's mass youtube postings with no substantive comments are starting to turn "Seen on the Web" into the old "Lots of Links" again.

I appreciate the contributions but just mass posting videos of anything that breathes with glasses and no forward commentary is starting to get out of hand. Seems I recall that's what killed the old "Lots of Links." I understand the so-called language barrier argument, but I just read through two or three posts by Herbert in that topic which were well over 25 lines. Asking for a bit more substance on the videos doesn't seem to incredibly painful, does it?

Again, this is just my opinion and I respect the contribtions, but is there anything that can be done about this? Perhaps open a "Herbert's Lots of Links" category?

Andrew 16 Jan 2010, 10:53

There seem to have been some postings on different threads on the subject of contact lenses.

Do they deserve their own separate thread?

Wurm 06 Jan 2010, 09:27

The FAQ contains some site policies.

Most of the rules are implied but constitute the usual set of guidelines at most community sites. Spoofing, trolling and taking a thread massively off-topic are all discouraged.

If you are posting as yourself and having a friendly discussion about glasses, you should do fine.

Herbert 06 Jan 2010, 08:58

question to the admin:

where can we read the website-rules here?



JR 05 Jan 2010, 07:45

I have been around since almost the begining and I am not sure what we are trying to control. There will always be fakes and flakes, that is the internet.

I read what I choose to read and don't expect a "cleaned" site. I have learned a lot and enjoy the information and chatter.

There was another site that was as good as Eyescene about music, but they "cleaned" it up so well it is gone...too bad it was very good.

I just hope we keep Eyescene going.

Wurm 04 Jan 2010, 21:14

Thankfully I'm not as busy as many of my peers seem to be, and my commitments are fairly flexible. But I'm not going to make changes just for the sake of trying something.

I'm not convinced that a registration system would make much of a difference. It doesn't seem to prevent trolling on other sites I've used. Some of our fabulists have been at it for years, and are dozens of posts into their game. I doubt a registration will chase them off.

I do have IP bans, which I will continue to use for the more ridiculous (or offensive) cases. Other than that, I can try changing the moderation style a bit. When I delete a post I will replace it with a short message such as 'post deleted: multiple usernames'. At least this will alleviate some of the confusion.

Tim 04 Jan 2010, 21:02

hee hee

Like Lenses 04 Jan 2010, 20:49


More like SEE SEE

Tim 04 Jan 2010, 20:48

Hear, hear, Specs4ever!

specs4ever 04 Jan 2010, 18:34

Everyone seems to forget that Wurm is running this site in his spare time out of the kindness of his heart. Any, and I mean "any" extra work for him is too much. There will be no sign in, and he will keep doing what he can to keep the trolls at bay. Live with it.

squiduser 04 Jan 2010, 16:36

Forum/bulettin board engine like phpbb or vbulettin maybe?

Visitor who want to contribute to this community have to register (sign up, join). But the forum/bb itself is open to non member to read only.

Phpbb is free, gnu gpl licensed. Vbulettin is not free.

Puffin 04 Jan 2010, 14:15

I would like to think Eyescene is a place where discussions can be held (but not quite a "chat" site, talking about stupid nonsense, thanks)

If it is not this, what is it? A list of site update announcements from external sites, a list of links to photos with captions like "isn't she hot?", a list of short descriptions of bespectacled women that most likely we or nobody else will ever see again?

Is that all? I hope not.

John S 04 Jan 2010, 13:04

I think a simpler approach that has been talked about before is, post the IP of the poster. It does not give away the identity of the user but, would give the multiple nickname users a little bit more scrutiny on the BBS.

SZ6 04 Jan 2010, 11:50


I strongly disagree with pretty much everything you said:

- Eyescene is effectively a message board and online community. Countless online communities over the last 10+ years have implemented systems requiring user registration and passwords. This paradigm is mature and pretty well accepted all over the WWW.

- I'm pretty sure that plenty of out-of-the-box message board solutions include things like automated password reset. You can also choose to let your web browser remember username/password information for any site you like.

- I am not an Internet security expert, but everything I have ever been told about online security recommends that users NOT use the same password for each site they frequent. If you have only one password for everything, a criminal only needs to steal that one password to compromise your identity and gain access to all of your online information. Different passwords for each site you visit guard against this.

- A small barrier to entry such as site registration would not deter the core users who have been visiting this site for over a decade. It has been through a few iterations since its inception, and dozens of regulars have stayed with it through each iteration. Needing to register won't change this, but it may prove to be enough of a barrier to entry to guard against trolling.

To state the obvious - I am in favor of a registration system!

Andrew 04 Jan 2010, 11:38

Not THAT one again Chris - some of us remember it from last time!

Chrisb 04 Jan 2010, 11:32

I am against the idea of registration for the site itself, but I think it is necessary for a chat site. Eyescene itself is not a chat site.

A user/password requirement would put a significant burden on wurm or there would need to be an automated password reset feature. Its also well understood that the more passwords you have the less secure they become.

Having to register would also deter both infrequent but regular posters like me who can never remember insecure passwords, but more importantly those very important visitors who come to the site honestly seeking information.

registration is not even guaranteed to prevent the fakers.

I think I posted a similar opinion last time the problem arose, sorry for repeating myself, but we the honest users of the site have to allow ourselves to be fooled occasionally and develop a radar that spots the fakers.

I will see if I can find my 1998 post on this topic!

RXologist 03 Jan 2010, 12:15

'deleted' I mean...

RXologist 03 Jan 2010, 12:13

I would recommend an optional registration process, enabling constant users to recognize each other and conduct longlasting conversations.

(Perhaps even a PM service for personal messaging?)

Anyone not wishing to regiter may do so and still post his messages, but his IP address will be displayed instead of a username.

Anyway, I think a deletted message should leave some trace behind (i.e. "message deletted by moderator" instead of the original text), otherwise users might lose their trust.

Slit 03 Jan 2010, 10:16

Hi Wurm and others,

well, I also agree with a concept of a registration process, so that posters can be monitored (of course there will be someone who can make a fake email ID and register as a new member, but not many would take this time and effort).

It is extremely important to maintain our dearest community of Eyescene as a genuine place of conversations on the topics we are interested about.

(This is one of the 4 web sites I open every time I log on to internet!)

 03 Jan 2010, 09:44

Many of the people that were here from the beginning have long since left because of the fakery and the harrassing of the females.

For me, I would be willing to put up with a very strict registering policy

so I would know that who I was talking to was in fact who they said they were.

I would not be afraid to send my picture to people like this. This is how it used to be here.

Hansel 03 Jan 2010, 09:30


Thank you for your response which clarifies your point of view.

I can very much appreciate your view. I generally visit the site on a daily basis but would not class myself as one who comments with great frequency. When I do, apart from being a self-acknowledged poor typist, I do try to consider my response carefully so I can sympathise with your feeling of what was it for if your posts end up as part of the cull. Where we would seem to differ is that, if, after a while, I start to suspect that my efforts have been nothing more than amusing the trolls, I just dont add any further to the thread.

I do think that the moderator has a difficult job on occasions. Clearly this recent spate highlights how different posters have different reactions to moderator action.

I do think that you have raised a relevant argument with your comment about genuine replies to fake posts having an intrinsic value that may benefit others and, while obviously I cant answer for Wurm, I am sure he will read and consider your viewpoint.

With best wishes

Puffin 03 Jan 2010, 08:14

I'm sorry for any offense caused but if we posit a fake poster who pretends to have a real-world problem that hasn't been mentioned here for a while, is there any harm treating it as real and answering the question, just in case the answer might be of use to someone else?

I can't speak for everyone who answers questions here but usually I think about the answers for a while, perhaps look elsewhere for facts, and it is quite distressing to find the next day it's all been a complete waste of time. Perhaps the initial poster might be fake, but that doesn't mean the answer is too.

It's just that once we start worrying about fakery, where does it end? Is every post now suspect? I hope not.

I would like to think we could chat or discuss things here without worrying about the fact some of us are wearing masks and because of that our innocent and friendly "hellos" vanish without trace.

Hansel FAO Puffin 03 Jan 2010, 07:49

Puffin 02 Jan 2010, 14:33

Now I'm starting to wonder how much of this site is fakery.

It may not just be those with multiple login names.


Hansel 02 Jan 2010, 13:41

From my point of view, I would commend Wurm for his approach.He also makes very pertinent points about log ins which could deter posters. Carry on the good work, Sir.

Just as a final point, don't forget, there is no dark side of the moon.

Slightly upset with your response, Puffin which I take to refer to the my post. Apologies of I have misconstrued it. It was not a sycophantic response but the moderator of any message board that I have contributed to has gnerally come in for some flak at times regarding aspects of moderating. My response was related to that, with the final comment, if you are not aware, a phrase used at the end of the CD from which Wurm's "suggested phrase" is taken and which amused me to read. Granted it is off topic, and therefore why I have posted this response here. Are you suggesting that regardless of fakery, if it is is OO related it should be left, (as this comment was), but that anything that is not OO related should be deemed ripe for the moderator's trashcan?

To reiterate, apologies if I have misinterpreted your post.

Best wishes

still 01 Jan 2010, 21:26

Just got home from New Jersey. Saw some interesting plussies, not much else...8-(

Happy New Year to all of you, and especially to Wurm!

nickweymouth 31 Dec 2009, 14:19

another hr 40 to go in the uk but happy new year to everyone

Puffin 31 Dec 2009, 13:46

At this very moment I'm raising a glass of wine to this site and all those who contribute and wishing you all a very happy New Year.

Melyssa 31 Dec 2009, 11:43

Happy New Year and Happy New Decade, everyone!

Clare 31 Dec 2009, 10:36

Happy 2010 everyone from Downunder!

Wurm - sent you an email. Thanks!

Wurm 29 Dec 2009, 15:13

I'll watch to see if Crystal Veil stays active for a few months. If so, I'll put a bookmark on the front page. It looks like a great project so far.

Puffin 29 Dec 2009, 15:09

I think CrystalVeil's excellent (and large) selection of photos ought to go on the front page:



Dieter 25 Dec 2009, 09:19


Of course I enjoyed it! Well done. I never expected the sequel to progress as it did. I can't get my hands around that whole space/time/continuum/time travel thing. I suppose that's why the original story fascinated me. My stories always seem to deal with obsession, irony, and stuff like that.

Happy Holidays.

VFL 25 Dec 2009, 08:59

Merry Christmas my bespectacled darlings!

Wurm 25 Dec 2009, 08:53

Merry Christmas! Thanks for the kind greetings and for your contributions. Warm wishes for the new year (and decade).

nickweymouth 25 Dec 2009, 07:27


bonn noel

mon ami

Julian 24 Dec 2009, 23:31

Christmas greetings from me too - Wurm, we owe you a lot!

Love and kisses, Jules.


Spexy guys are sexy guys.

Galileo 24 Dec 2009, 19:35

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all the contributors to Eyescene and a special greeting to Wurm for continuing to host this amazing site.

Thanks Wurm.

specs4ever 23 Dec 2009, 17:00

And a thank you Dieter for giving me the push to get going on the sequel toNever Too Late. I hope you liked the end

Dieter 23 Dec 2009, 05:21


Danka. I have found myself much more fascinated with the struggles of hyperopes in recent years. Modern plus lenses seem extremely complex and more beautiful than the magnifying lenses of the past.


Finish those stories! We await.

Bobby and Wurm,

I would like to thank you publicly for maintaining your sites. It must take a tremendous effort but they give all of us places to share our adventures and fantasies.

To all,

Happy Holidays and may your New Year be special!

hooked 23 Dec 2009, 01:58


your stories are the best ones because they are also dealing with hyperopic characters.

Dieter 22 Dec 2009, 19:21


On this forum and several others I frequent, I have learned that many of my friends have had a tough year. I'm really not down in any way, just ready to move on to 2010. It has to be better than '09.

specs4ever 22 Dec 2009, 17:07

Dieter, Bobby, Slit and others who have not had the greatest year, I have to say I am right there with you in considering 2009 a year I could have

done without. But as the year draws to a close all I can do is wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, and hope that it is a better year for everyone.

I also enjoyed your 2 stories Dieter.

Julian 22 Dec 2009, 06:39

Bobby, Slit, Dieter: hope things go better for you in the new year. And, Bobby and all the authors, THANKS for your efforts! It's taken me till now to read all the stories and they're all great. I have to admit I have four stories unfinished and can't get the inspiration to bring them to a conclusion! I keep hoping!

still 21 Dec 2009, 18:19

Sorry about your bad news, Bobby. I hope next year will be much better for you. Never surrender!

Slit 21 Dec 2009, 08:50

Cheer up Bobby boy!

Bad happens these days to all of us. I made a bad career move in India and actually now back at home jobless!

So the lonely Christmas will be spent with a school time male friend with whom I drive to some distant city!

Hope everything turn better for you soon!!!

Dieter: Most welcome. :)

Dieter 21 Dec 2009, 08:08


Your kind comments mean more than you can imagine. Professionally, this year has been my worst ever, so much so, that I am considering major career changes. I write stories for sheer pleasure and it gives me an outlet to dream of my fantasies. It is especially great to know what stories and story lines that readers appreciate. That gives me direction. Thanks again.

Bobby 21 Dec 2009, 02:51

The trip to India was good for me, but bad for my client.

My GF left me.

My branch suffers from crisis severely.

I am getting older and the vision of lonely Xmas ... hu.

Bad year.

Slit 20 Dec 2009, 21:31

Thanks Bobby!!!

How was the India trip? Managed to capture any nice Hindustani Galz?

What is your GFs opinion about you being OO?

I mentioned one of my past GFs that I like her looks and like her glasses, she said "you are strange! i want to get rid of glasses but you like it!" she was a more or less part time wearer, so glasses were not much part of our affairs. :)


I love your stories. Well balanced between hyperopes and myopes! Waiting for more sequals to Super sunday, addisons add, Savannah etc..

Bobby 20 Dec 2009, 18:36

I updated my website with stories. Sorry for missin the a few updates this autumn. I am having some personal troubles (job, GF, etc). So there are 17 stories, a lot of reading. Enjoy all of them. I will add some morphed pictures tomorrow.

Wurm 18 Nov 2009, 22:09

I see that GeoCities shut down a couple of weeks ago, taking a few glasses sites with it. I've removed those links from the front page, but please let me know if the sites reappear elsewhere.

russell 11 Nov 2009, 06:28

Thanks, Wurm!

Wurm 10 Nov 2009, 09:25

Russell, I fixed your post.

russell 09 Nov 2009, 10:00

Wurm, I inadvertently posted to the Actors thread using my full name. It's already posted, so my request is probably useless. But could you go in and delete the post? Thanks!

Doreen 02 Nov 2009, 03:50

Thank you, VFL !!!

VFL 01 Nov 2009, 17:34

Doreen, thank you for your wonderful stories. I really enjoy and appreciate them.

specs4ever 26 Oct 2009, 17:38

Hi Dieter: Yes, I have an e mail that I try to keep open for all. It is, and right now I don't have it blocked. Every once in a while I get hit with a bunch of spam, so I block it for a while, but once you get me I'll put you on my "good" list.

Dieter 26 Oct 2009, 12:59


My stories come in exactly the same way. Either the light bulb pops or I fiddle with something until it evolves. I am flattered that you would even suggest collaborating with me but currently I have no idea for a sequel. If something comes to mind, I will contact you. Do you have an email address that you are willing to broadcast? I dont, but Im sure we could exchange addresses via Bobby. He has forwarded notes to me from readers.

specs4ever 23 Oct 2009, 18:25

Sorry Dieter, but I have had a number of other stories in the pipeline that had to get posted first. I actually still have 18 more to go, and 2 or 3 that are in the final stages of writing, so we are looking at about a year before I manage to get the sequel posted. And, I honestly have been giving it some thought, but I don't know how it is with you and your writing. Some people can take an idea , write a story plan, and then create a story, however I seem to have to toss the idea around in my mind for a while, and then all of a sudden the story jumps out at me. Unfortunately it hasn't done so yet. But, I have another idea. I am quite fond of your work, so if you wanted to take a stab at writing the sequel, we could collaborate.

Dieter 23 Oct 2009, 14:40


I've been waiting for a sequel to "Never Too Old" . . . . . since April.

No, I'm not rushing you, just letting you know I'm interested. As one author to another, "no story before its time."

Yoyo 23 Oct 2009, 10:30

If it had just been the one "torture" video had had been posted, I'd just leave well enough alone. However, at this point I agree with Curious Too that it looks like the newer links are just being posted to piss off the people who don't like them -- they barely contain any glasses-related subject matter.

Of course it is easy enough to stay away from something if you don't like it, but if people are deliberately posting things that they know will get other site visitors angry, that is another matter entirely. That's called trolling.

Curious Too 23 Oct 2009, 04:37

Easily offended? Not quite. Why was there such a controversy about the children pics wearing glasses? Were those people just "easily offended" too?

Violence against women is a very strong topic that raises alot of emotions; 99% of which have nothing to do with glasses. Not only is assault wrong, it is blatantly illegal. It's like "consensual rape" where there are just as many legal issues. (Yes, I have a law background.)

If there are people who enjoy viewing illegal acts, that's their choice. But seems to me there is no reason why we can't separate the two.

specs4ever 22 Oct 2009, 20:45

Hey Wurm, I just read Curious's post, and I then HAD to go to XXXX to see what the squabble was. As far as I am concerned I suggest that you leave things well enough alone, and everything will die down. Curious seems like the little boy at the peephole who complains when he sees someone naked. I would suggest that he does what I do if he is offended, and stay away from that section. Just my 2 cents worth.

Curious Too 22 Oct 2009, 08:02

Wurm... I am growing increasingly concerned over the amount of videos showing intense violence being committed against women that are being posted in the XXX links thread.

While I realize that everyone has their own pleasure, these links are highly offensive to some - including myself - as much as the child pictures being posted in other threads earlier. These videos have extremely little to nothing to do with glasses and are simply being posted regularly to offend those complaining about their presence.

My recommendation is that a new thread be created called "BDSM" or something like that so this individual can continue to post their content without regularly offending the women who visit the site as well as myself.

I appreciate your consideration of this, Wurm. Thank you.

minus 5 who luvs gwgs 19 Oct 2009, 23:02

Hi Wurm great site but how about a new section MYOPIC PROGRESSION I think it would be popular

Slit 13 Oct 2009, 10:25

Hey Bobby!

yes that is great! india is increasingly getting populated with gwgws!

i think this is the next wave of myopia... how?

* China, with rapid industrialisation younger generation started using computer for many hours, got very competitive at studies and slowly and steadily, each generation started becoming more and more myopic...

* India is also facing a similar situation. IT boom is already reached its peak. Many many girls study day and night with face borrowed in books to get highest scores at exams and later burry head in computer to perform best as programmers etc! I am seeing this everyday as a person working at a top IT company here... about 65% of girls wear glasses - mostly myopic rx.s.

Looking forward to see my subcontinent going boldly bespecticled!

Bobby 10 Oct 2009, 23:52

I have spotted several GWGs in Bombay with quite strong spex. The part near universitz is good for observing and the Back Bay promenade is great. I am slowly falling in love with this city. Absolutely fascinating. Just a few photos of GWGs though.

Martyn 10 Oct 2009, 19:27

Hi Charlotte was that you in the chat room then disappeared. WE may have our differences, but we can still be friends.

I used to enjoy our post between each other then you disappeared.

I had already forgiven you for a rather negative comment you posted, we can be misinformed sometimes then make a judgment, i will willing chat to you, so don,t disappear the next time your in the chat room. Hope all is well with you and your business is prospering in those hard times.

Slit 09 Oct 2009, 23:37

Hey Bobby!

I am in New Delhi now... this is a lot of girls with glasses!

I think the nerd wave is coming to india with the spreading of IT sector. I am in a IT comapny where almost 80% of girls wear glasses, at least -1

But the % of plus glasses wear remain so little. I heard its more prominent in Eastern part of India, Bengal to be exact. Hope to see it by my self later on.

Love to see some good pics of indian beauties with glasses.

Re: Chaos and dirt. Phew its Incredibly Sh*t in Incredible India!

Bobby 08 Oct 2009, 04:06

My pleasure, 8-)

I am in Bombay now. The city is a horrible chaos of people and cars and noise and dirt and everything. I saw many very pretty GWGs, unfortunately I did not manage to shoot pix of many of them. going back home on 17th. (if i survive).

Peter G 04 Oct 2009, 21:47


thank you very much for the great selection of stories - it was worth the wait.

Bobby 02 Oct 2009, 18:06

I have made an update of the story website. There is a dozen new stories. Enjoy them.

Notice: Doreen 2 of your files were in a bad format. See your mail, pls.

I am not going to be able to repair anything on the website during the following 2 weeks, so if anything goes wrong, be patient, please.

Galileo 28 Aug 2009, 05:06

Hi Onlooker, I think you have to discuss it with her again or it will sit and fester! Her problem is she sees it as something bad when actually it is no big thing at all. Some men like big breasts, others like long legs and we like glasses. Maybe you should try to turn it from being a thing about glasses to being a thing about how sexy she looks in glasses. I know it's difficult to explain how it makes you feel. Just now she feels threatened by it, she is a bit scared because she does not understand how it makes you feel. Try to help her feel comfortable and accept you as you are. Good luck!

OnLooker 28 Aug 2009, 03:54

Thanks Spexxieman, but i don't think it's useful to approach my wife now and to discuss the matter further as she's over-reacting to this. She's still not wearing her glasses at all. Yesterday she made a comment on smoething on the computer screen saying "this thing is giving me pain in my eyes". I didn't even comment on that but i felt it was meant for me to go and bring her glasses as usual. The thing is that i'm off doing that as long as she thinks i'm only doing it for my own pleasure and satisfaction.

Speximann 27 Aug 2009, 19:19

Onlooker, As with alot of fetishes, they don't tend to be very logical but are still quite powerful. Trying to figure out why or "what's wrong with me, this isn't a normal male reaction" may or may not help you to understand this attraction to women wearing glasses and possibly help your wife to understand & embrace this as a positive thing. I questioned this feeling since high school & have yet to nail it down. Reguardless of an explaination it is very real & as I have learned thru this & other sites on the net quite common. Normal??? What is normal??? By being up front with your wife about your infatuation may not seem the right thing to do now but probably would have been much worse the longer you tried to hide it from her. I have been lucky in the fact that my wife knows , accepts & particapates, without fully understanding the glasses turn on.

Maybe you will be able to have a less emotional disscussion with your wife soon to help her to understand "your feelings" and embrace it. Reguardless. you are not alone in this "girls with glasses fetish", Good Luck.

OnLooker 27 Aug 2009, 01:27

I would like to thank all of you in here for the opportunity you're all offering each other to discuss our o-o cherished matters. I'm sufferring from misinterpretation and incomprehension of my liking of women with glasses. My wife knows about it since a long while and she hates it. Of late i made a terrible mistake telling her that i am happy she has now to wear glasses... She had a a rage against me and then told i can't understand this fetishism of yours and yours fantasms on women with glasses. Since that moment she has just stopped wearing her +1 glasses (she's hyperope). I see her eyes straining in front of the computer and while reading stuff but she's stoutly resisting not to show herself as dependent on glasses. I don't know why i thought it would be OK to tell her that... Now i am refraining from even sugegsting her to wear her glasses like i used to do when i saw her eyes straining..I simply decided to ignore the matter altogether until further developments...

Steve 19 Aug 2009, 11:50


I would like to chat with you, it would be fun.

Let me know what is a good time and day for you then we can come up with something mutually agreeable.

Valerie 18 Aug 2009, 12:18


I just started running again last week. I was inspired by the Falmouth Road Race. I even bought Asics. I had calf problems again.

I would like to chat sometime.

Steve 12 Aug 2009, 02:02


It's good to hear that Krissy is thriving. It was the annivesary of Bobbi's passing last week, so that was a reflective time.

How is your running now, are you still wearing Asics? I am!

sourgrapes 08 Aug 2009, 13:05

Some people have been posting links without the http:// prefix, which causes the BBS not to turn them into links. That means the people on flikr and stuff don't see the referrers, so they don't find this site.

I am suggesting that Wurm could disable the automatic linking for all links posted, and take care of the referrer problem

Bobby 03 Aug 2009, 03:51

I have to delay the August update of my website, because I had to leave my lair and go for unexpected "holidays". I have very limited Internet access these days so be patient, please.

ehpc 30 Jul 2009, 06:52

I believe I am right in saying that a Russian woman who occasionally used to post here and come into Lens Chat has married someone she 'met' in Lens Chat. Is this the first EyeScene wedding?

Clare 30 Jul 2009, 00:31

Of course, should be 'sporadic'! I seem to be able to post here but not on Going Without Glasses or Vision threads. Wonder why.

Clare 30 Jul 2009, 00:13

Wurm - I'm having sporadid problems posting again. I've just published one post but the next won't go ...

Valerie 29 Jul 2009, 10:52


I am sorry to hear about Bobbi. Krissy turned nine and is doing well. Voices in your head?

Guest 29 Jul 2009, 08:52

Dear Chris,

I sent you an e-mail at last night regarding a possible interview for a national publication. Is that still a good address?


 12 Jul 2009, 12:48

yes you can!

Clare 12 Jul 2009, 11:27

Wurm - I can't post from my PC, can you help? Thanks!

Parth 10 Jul 2009, 23:38

Selena...please email me at

Selena 09 Jul 2009, 23:28

Has anyone kept in touch with Parth S.? I would like to get a hold of him.

Steve 09 Jul 2009, 12:34


I hear him every day. Voices inside my head?

Bobbi passed away last summer, a short while after her fourteenth birthday.

How is your dog? (remind me of her name).

Valerie 06 Jul 2009, 16:06

Has anyone heard from Steve Browne? I would love to chat with him.

nickweymouth 04 Jul 2009, 14:44

LOL very true my friend

Puffin 04 Jul 2009, 11:40

but not independence from glasses, hopefully.

nickweymouth 04 Jul 2009, 08:51

may i please use this space to wish everbody in america a happy indapendance day thank you

All4Eyes 03 Jul 2009, 12:39

Specs4ever: And good ones they are, too. You've outdone yourself. 8-) I do like Dieters latest as well, though they aren't new, I'm so happy for Logan!

specs4ever 01 Jul 2009, 17:09

Dieter's stories are not new ones, but I see that mine are.

Cactus Jack 01 Jul 2009, 17:07


I think you accidentally loaded the May 2009 version of your site.


Bobby 01 Jul 2009, 10:12

Stories website has been updated.


specs4ever 24 May 2009, 06:18

I too think it is number 3. But they are really well done. Usually I can blow up a morph to a very large size and see the difference in the pixels where the glasses have been cut and pasted, but I can't find that in either 1 or 3, and only a little bit in 2.

Andrew 23 May 2009, 11:12

I think it's number 3.

Robert 22 May 2009, 17:10

My guess, its girl 2

Bobby 22 May 2009, 11:13

Well, the first prize cannot be a date with the girl. Even if it were, she lives far far away from most of you. 8-)

But after a few rounds of the contest there might be some prize, I think. (wink-wink)

lentifan 21 May 2009, 15:53

Wouldn't it be lovely if those who guessed right won a date with the girl as a prize?

Tim 20 May 2009, 21:18

I agree with the general concensus that 3 is the real one. However, I really wish 1 had been around when I was active on the musical scene around 30 years ago!

A. 20 May 2009, 17:58

Well I think the girl 1 is real!

Oscar 20 May 2009, 17:08

I think it's Girl 3 who is real. Great morphs though, whichever one it is.

still 20 May 2009, 16:55

girl 3, but the morphs are really good!

Wurm 20 May 2009, 15:56

My guess: the eyepatch girl.

nickweymouth 20 May 2009, 13:37

mm 3 i think

lentifan 20 May 2009, 12:04

Bobby. I think Girl 3 is real.

They all look gorgeous.

Galileo 20 May 2009, 06:59

Hi Bobby, that is really hard! They are all very good. I will say number 2 is real.

Micha 20 May 2009, 03:40


I think, girl3 is real.

Bobby 20 May 2009, 03:21

The question is:

Whicj of the 3 girls is REAL?

Peter G  20 May 2009, 03:00


thank you for the new stories, always appreciated.

Girl 2 is the morph (I hope)

Peter G

BOBBY 19 May 2009, 19:28

erm, the link is

you may answer the quiz here or by e-mail.

BOBBY 19 May 2009, 19:25

May 2009 update: 3 new stories and a quiz about pictures.

OttO 19 May 2009, 08:36

Nice idea, but it probably wouldn't work unless registration were required (with an ISP email address)and with each person always using the same name. The reason being that very quickly the thread would become more fiction than fact.

patagonia 19 May 2009, 00:47

i like the idea...let's do it! very interesting...

sum1wholovesgirlswithglasses 18 May 2009, 08:26

Wurm i was wondering if a specific thread dedicated for introductions could be created where people can write anything about themselves such as country gender age hobbies/interests when/how people had discovered eyescene if someones myop hyper or presbyopic they must include their eyeglasses prescription as well it would be great to know where eyesceners are writing from,folks what do y'all think of this suggestion?

RXologist 15 May 2009, 14:55

Links (as many as you like) can be posted here -

They will be displayed on the page itself.

BTW, I opened this forum two years ago, to complement wonderful Eyescene, but had no time to moderate it. If someone's interested in maintaining it, let me know and I'll send you the Admin password.

Tom Shea 15 May 2009, 14:35

Well of all the nerve and unmitited gall. Where the Hell do you get off Mister, talking to me (or anyone for that matter)like that when I addressed you in a civil manner? I don't know how you where you were raised pal, but your mother should have washed your snotty mouth out with lye soap.

FYI my "problem" isn't anything you listed. But YOUR problem is that have a God complex. And thank God you can only exercize it here on your crummy little web page.

There is a lot I could say re: your "the way I weld 'authority'". but frankly sir, you're just not worth it. Because what you are is a legend in your own mind.

I think the late actor James Stewart said it best when speaking to Lionel Barrymore in 'It's a Wonderful life' "In the whole scheme of things, you're nothing but a little spider". To which I'll add, you're a little creep!

Wurm 15 May 2009, 07:14

Given your M.O., I'm assuming you're Tom Shea.

My short reply is no. No, I'm not going to unblock your various ISPs. No, I'm not going to stop deleting your posts.

Your problem isn't with me and the way I wield authority. Your problem isn't that the wrong guy got elected president. And your problem isn't that a teacher was cruel to you or that a woman rejected your advances (or whatever).

Your problem is that you have given up on yourself.

I'm not really all that different from you. People who just don't get it piss me off. Then I get mad and shoot myself in the foot.

So I have to keep my focus on making today one of my "good days". Everyone has good days and bad days, right?

Good luck.

everything's fuzzy 14 May 2009, 13:54

I'm not sure why Chris Mitchell, the webmaster aka "WURM" banned me (my ISP) from posting. But if you have a reason, sir you might let me know the reason. As this will save me the trouble of using another's computer and ISP.


PS: hoping to hear from you soon;

Specs4ever 12 May 2009, 19:46

Hey Dieter, thanks for the compliment. I have not been able to continue it as yet, but it is on my to do list.

Dieter 12 May 2009, 14:11


I just got around to reading your April stories. Though I appreciate your warning at the end of "Never Too Old", please, let there be a sequel. It was much too fun to end there.

Andy 12 May 2009, 05:32

Here is a link to the wayback machine:*/

There are some page from several years back.

Val 12 May 2009, 04:52

I have saved the Lots Of Links thread in 09 April 2009. Maybe someone has a newer version.

I've uploaded it on easy-share:

 11 May 2009, 04:13

can we download the history of LOL?

Wurm (Admin) 02 May 2009, 04:52

The "Lots of Links" thread has been deleted as per my announcement on that thread some weeks ago.

I've bumped up the permitted number of links per post from 3 to 4. I also doubled the total post size allowed from roughly 600 to 1200 words.

Links with no accompanying text are now subject to deletion (I've put a reminder on the posting page). Please give at least a brief description for your links. At minimum that should sum up the subject matter and why you found it notable.

Forums are easy to set up (lots of hosting packages come with them). If you were a big fan of link posting and want to set up a new site for them you're welcome to link it here.

All4Eyes 08 Apr 2009, 16:04

Bobby: Ah, I always knew I came from a parallel universe, thank you for the magazine covers from my homeland! (Actually, I have a theory that Heaven is a parallel universe, now I'm thinking perhaps it is this one!).

sourgrapes 03 Apr 2009, 18:22

Real! That makes the picture so much better. :)

lentifan 03 Apr 2009, 17:30

Thank you for that interesting explanation, Bobby.

The 'real young woman' is a real beauty - much more attractive than the normal Cosmo cover.

I did think it was an excellent morph!

Bobby 03 Apr 2009, 17:08

Thank you for your compliments, but I do not deserve them. The Cosmopolitan Cover with Carmen is not a morph. It is just some pink and yellowish letters over a real photo (by courtesy of Misiak) of a real young woman. Let's call her Carmen to protect her real identity. I am authorized to tell you her prescription: it is -33 dptr.

sourgrapes 03 Apr 2009, 16:55

I saw that one, too. It's quite a good morph

lentifan 03 Apr 2009, 16:17

That's the morph I meant.

lentifan 03 Apr 2009, 16:15

It's always a pleasure to see your update each month, Bobby.

The morphs are excellent (thanks to Mishak)especially this one.

If only all ladies looked like this!

And, of course, two more intriguing stories from spec4ever. How does he keep up such an excellent standard?

Stan 03 Apr 2009, 14:03

p.p.s. Wow, Bobby, never mind, I just found the "lecture". Sorry I brought it up. That's about a year's worth of traffic in a couple of days.

Stan 03 Apr 2009, 13:59

p.s. About the keratoconus, I think that most of us who have wished for high myopia would agree that the problem (?) with that disease, even if it were bottled and sold to us, is that the irregular cornea makes good vision difficult even with correction. Speaking for myself anyway, even my "fantasy vision" would have to be correctable.

Stan 03 Apr 2009, 13:55

Bobby, I find that the language tools on Google are quite good and I am able to participate to some degree in a couple forums that are not in English, the only language I know. Perhaps your photographer friend would be able to use those tools to participate in EyeScene.

I never saw your web site before today but I was immediatey drawn to your messgage to Guest. I took a look around some of the recent ES posts for the "lecture" you referred to but did not find it. Is it still online? I don't want to get you updet by reminding you of it, whatever it was, but I'm just curious what that person said to get your dander up.

Have a good day.

Bobby 03 Apr 2009, 11:50

To Galileo: Yes, he did.

To Gwgs: See this link

it describes a disease that cause this high myopia.

gwgs 03 Apr 2009, 08:57

Lentifan and others - I too have corresponded with someone who had suffered a disease in her early teenage years and she said her myopia has short through the roof her since then. I think it has stabilised now where she has an eye exam every year and it may increase by a diopter or two but this is nothing compared with her teenage years. There was no cure for this and nothing to help stabilise the consistent growths either.

She must be in her 30's now and from my last correspondence with her a few months ago she was -24.5. She told me that her myopia wouldn't stop increasing, her several months she would find her glasses would be to weak for her and she would have to go back for another eye exam and then new lenses etc.

I too didn't think to ask what the disease was - it may sound rather cruel but I wish they could bottle it and sell it though!!

Galileo 03 Apr 2009, 05:12

Hi Bobby, I'm not a regular visitor to your site, but happened to go there today. I guess "Guest" really upset you! :)

Bobby's site got updated 02 Apr 2009, 17:58

The April update is here. 2 new stories by Specs4ever and some pix by Bobby (by courtesy of Misiak). The link is as always:

Bobby 16 Mar 2009, 18:19

Misiak has a website, not too interesting for OO people, but those who like good sport photos may enjoy it:

he also made following pictures for this optic shop web site:

Bobby 16 Mar 2009, 18:04

I do not know what diease it is. Misiak, the photographer, mentioned a kind of disease or syndrome in the phone call. Sorry, I cannot remember the name. I did not ask about any details as it did not seem to me to be unbecoming to ask too much. The photographer suffered the injury in 2001 when he was racing a fast motor boat.

lentifan 16 Mar 2009, 16:46

I loved the photos of Barbara in your update, Bobby. A new object of desire for many of us.

I should say, too, that once again Specs4ever astonishes us with the creativity he continues to bring to his stories.

And I liked, too, the contribution of your new contributor RJ. It was a good story. Might we look forward to further adventures of this couple? At any rate I hope he continues to write.

lentifan 16 Mar 2009, 16:41

Like Puffin, I would be fascinated to know what is the disease Barbara contracted and also what type of injury the photographer suffered.

Puffin 16 Mar 2009, 15:08

oh wow, what's the disease?

Bobby 16 Mar 2009, 12:57

If you could understand Slovak (the TV station is from the Slovak Republic), you would get to know that the photographer's eyes started worsening after an injury. He does not do GOC. I exchanged several e-mails with him during the last two monthes and spoke to him by phone today. He would like to take part in our discussion, however he never leart English. (He told me he has started his lessons recently.)

The model suffers from a kind of disease since her early childhood a side effect of which is severe nearsightedness. She definately does not wear GOC.

I hope the photographer will share some more pictures of Barbara in the future.

 16 Mar 2009, 09:43

Or an extra twist: maybe he does GOC

Puffin 16 Mar 2009, 09:32

I wonder if the model is wearing a spare or old pair belonging to the photographer?

Bobby 16 Mar 2009, 02:40

The man who shot the pix of Barbara:

Look at the Kalendar on the right side of the screen. The month is Marec 2009 (in eng. March 2009), click the 8 in the Ne (Sunday) column.Now there is a list under the "Kalendar", click "Crepiny PLUS". Watch the video. This photogrpher wears very strong glasses too.

Puffin 14 Mar 2009, 13:36

I remember when over -50 was just for dreams.

Bobby 13 Mar 2009, 21:12

The March update has been made. There are 3 new stories and 5 new pictures (really special) on my website:

Bobby 18 Feb 2009, 12:09

4 new stories at

Bobby 13 Feb 2009, 06:49

The February update is going to be uploaded on Monday 16. If any of the authors want his or her story to be included, please send it to my mail till Monday morning Central European Time

Dieter 01 Feb 2009, 13:23


Thanks, I have a pretty good start on it. I hope to have it finished by the Feb. or March update.

MJ 01 Feb 2009, 08:07


Look forward to reading the next installment of Logan's Obsession. When will it be ready ;)

Slit 25 Jan 2009, 16:01

Three cheers Dieter!

Loved the story of Payton and keep on moving!

Bobby 24 Jan 2009, 10:16

Updated. There are 4 new stories. Sorry for the delay. (too busy)

russell 16 Dec 2008, 13:40

Thanks, Wurm, for removing the posts on the Actors thread.

russell 14 Dec 2008, 07:30

I, too, feel that the posting of the links was not a deliberate ploy to post porn. I think that the links were either posted forgetting that they contained porn or thinking that the porn would not be offensive. I'm saying that I found it offensive and would like future posters to think before posting. (And I think the offending posts should be removed by our esteemed site administrator.)

Puffin 14 Dec 2008, 06:36

I don't think that misplaced link was deliberate on the part of the poster.

Cut-in UK 13 Dec 2008, 23:56

Well said, russell. I totally agree with what you say. I am not against porn in another place, and for those who enjoy it. The argument, for me, is about quality and the focus of this site.

The problem is this is a site for glasses enthusiasts, and the porn understandably and invariably focuses on "the act" rather than the glasses. It sidelines the eyewear and also annoys me that at least half the lenses are plano or ill-fitting 'readers'. There is nothing worse than a pretty girl in cheap and nasty glasses being less than tastefully portrayed as a victim. If it bores me, what must it do to the many optically-erudite lady contributors to this site.

A little discerning self-censorship wouldn't be out of place. It would demonstrate that O-O's appreciate a level of quality and relevance.(I notice that many of these postings are anonymous; another telling fact about the care and selection process !)

I've bored you all now. Apologies, but no regrets.

russell 13 Dec 2008, 14:09

I suppose this is the right place for a comment of this nature, since this thread is for site feedback. Here's my concern: On the ACTORS thread, three links to pictures of actor Hugh Laurie were posted. The problem is that the links are to porn sites that then lead to the pictures. I don't visit Eyescene for porn, and, in fact, I try to avoid pornographic sites. It bothers me that these links were posted on Eyescene, for there are all sorts of people who view these boards, and some may be offended, as I was. I realize that there are sometimes links to U-tube videos that are "adult" in nature, but U-tube has a warning and requires a password to view these. The links to the pics of Hugh Laurie gave no warnings at all that they were porno links. I have no objection to anyone who wishes to (and freely chooses to) view pornography. But I don't think that Eyescene is the place for it.

Slit 10 Dec 2008, 05:57

Nice one by Glasses for Everyone!

Bobby (stories) 09 Dec 2008, 16:20

Update! 2 stories by S4E and the previously rejected story by Gls4every1. (Sorry, that was a mistake.)


diva 01 Dec 2008, 00:25

Can you tell us where those stories actually are?

I haven't really read much of this but can't be bothered trawling through all the authors to find out :)

Puffin 30 Nov 2008, 18:07

I've been reading the stories too.

glassesforeveryone - I once had an idea about a mermaid who was high myopic out of water (and presumably magically equipped with legs too)

but like a lot of ideas, no time.

Dieter - liked the Peyton story and the Sarah story.

Glad to see we're getting away from the lists of prescriptions. I tend to avoid precise presciptions in my tales because they get in the way of the story... anyway I prefer stories about the effects of glasses, poor vision, etc.

Still struggling on with Dear Diary VI. It's got lots of squinting in it.

Some odd stuff. Kirsty dreams a lot.

Someone from the past. More squinting.

Louise gets a new girlfriend. etc etc

Dieter 29 Nov 2008, 12:19


Thank you for the kind words and the suggestions. I had never considered a continuation to Peyton's story . . . . . until now.

Slit 29 Nov 2008, 08:59


This is a very special congratulations for your growing skill in developing nice glasses stories, especially addressing audience of plus glasses and multifocal category.

Fantastic Friday was fantastic with nice plot and smooth introduction of the glasses in to the story... I believe this story will have more episodes coming up, such as how Peyton deals with glasses and her active lifestyle, about the new admirers she has got as well as how her life evolves with relationships and family etc.

Wish you the best!

lazysiow 29 Nov 2008, 03:49

Wow, fantastic follow up. I've been waiting for this for awhile and it did not disappoint! I think it's a truer "Glasses story" than many of the -40D ones we've had recently.

I've finally started drifting away from ES, it's very dry compared to the Fantasy Optical days that I remember...

Yoyo 27 Nov 2008, 10:04

Yeah, frankly I prefer the stories that don't get too far into technical details about eyesight (amounting to a lot of reciting of prescriptions) or far-fetched plots about rapidly-increasing myopia and -20 Rxes.

This one is down-to-earth, believable, and has likable characters. Nicely done!

Julian 27 Nov 2008, 09:06

Yes, I loved the rest of the Sarah story too. Not *quite* sure why Bobby thought it wasn't O-O enough; the glasses are pretty pivotal to the plot. But what the heck, we owe him so much for maintaining that great collection of glasses fiction, who can criticize?

guest 25 Nov 2008, 13:10


Can I just say that I loved the second part of the Sarah story, I think I love her.

I don't want to spoil it, but it really moved me - a really sad story. Not sure why Bobby rejected it but I don't mind as I loved it!

Keep em coming!

Peter G  25 Nov 2008, 08:30

To Bobby and the avid story writers - thank you very much for all your efforts and contributions. I look forward to a new batch of stories every month, and get downright antsy if they are not posted by the middle of the month. Please keep the stories coming in, I certainly enjoy them.

glassesforeveryone 25 Nov 2008, 01:45

Hi Guest,

I did write a follow-up story to Sarah's story, but this was the story that Bobby rejected on the grounds of not being OO enough.

I have found a blogging website where I have managed to post this.

So, you can read the story which was 'Banned by Bobby!' [apologies for the blatant sensationalising there].

Glasses is very much a core part of the story, but it is not the heart of the story. If you enjoyed the first Sarah story then you should enjoy this one.

Dave 24 Nov 2008, 19:12

glassesforeveryone - wonderful story!! BTW, a myope swimming underwater without goggles oftentimes experiences clearer vision since the water pressure can flatten the cornea just a bit thereby lessening one's myopia. I'm a -2 and notice the phenomenon.

Bobby 24 Nov 2008, 18:09

I received the e-mail with Dieter's story on 21st Nov, late night, actually 10 minutes to midnight (CET), and I opened the file next morning. When I was reading the Logan's Obsession for the first time, I was literally biting my nails. So similar the story is to my own personal history (see

I am sure many of us can identify with the Deiter's text. Thank to Chris we can share what we have in common here in this community.

Pete 24 Nov 2008, 14:57

I cannot believe how Logan's Story completely mirors all my own bizarre (at the time)thoughts, fears, feelings and actions as a young man growing up a total Optic Obsesive. Sounds as though there are many among us with similar operational views as young O~O's....

Strangly compforting and yet weird that ive never acctually been able to find anyone with the same O~O background - face to face during my whole life - ive only ever discussed it on here.

Bobby 24 Nov 2008, 11:45

On Sunday 23rd November 850 unique visitors visited my website ro read the stories and to look at the morphs. Thatk you all who visited, your interest in the website is my main reward. Bobby

Guest 24 Nov 2008, 02:20

Glassesforeveryone, I liked your latest story, but what about continuing the Sarah story? Come on, I need to know if she'll make a comeback!

Mark One 23 Nov 2008, 22:19

Agreed about "Logan's Obsession." Dieter outdid himself. I'm looking forward to the next installment also.

Katy 22 Nov 2008, 11:15

I love 'Logan's Obsession' - I can't wait for the next part! It reminds me of when I was young - terrified of the school eye tests, fascinated by people getting glasses, and with a pair hidden in my room that I had found in a drawer! :-)

Bobby (site update) 22 Nov 2008, 08:56

OMG typo:

the link is:

(I am tired.)

Bobby (site update) 22 Nov 2008, 08:52

I have just updated my story site. there are 6 new stories and 2 new morphs.

Unfortunately this time I had to refuse one of the stories I was sent ... for the first time this year ... as it was not OO enough. the link is

Stingray 17 Nov 2008, 15:30

Wurm: On the home page under Links: Outbound Destinations, how about a link to Bobby's website? He certainly contributes a lot to this site and deserves a link. Thanks for your consideration.

Visitor 06 Nov 2008, 06:21

Hey, does anyone know if/when Lens Chat changed? I tried logging in with my previous username and pasword, but it doesn't accept them.

Bobby 01 Nov 2008, 12:10

Yes, I have. A man from my country visited Eyescene regularly few years ago, contacted me and me met several times as we live in the same town. Two years ago I met a man who liked the stories that are translated into Czech on my website. We met once n pub near my place. Actually he does not read Eyescene because he cannot read English. One of my former girlfriends knows Eyescene (I showed it to her) and probably visits it from time to time. My present GF knows I read Eyescene every day, ut I do not know how often she checks what I write here. Plus! I have a neighbour who is glasses fetishist for 90%, I would like to speak about the issue and show him Eyescene, but I have not been with him to a pub yet (he goes to a pub to another neighbourhood, I donno to which one). However, is English is poor.

So, having this topic here, I call:


ehpc 01 Nov 2008, 09:34

Yes I have VFL. Although at the time we both knew we were fellow-conributors. Pete

Galileo 01 Nov 2008, 08:43

Hi VLF, I actually find that a bit scary, only my last two girlfriends know about my little obsession. So no - as far as I know - I never met anyone connected with OOism

VFL 01 Nov 2008, 07:46

Have any of you ever met anyone whom you believe may be a fellow visitor to this site?

Galileo 31 Oct 2008, 21:42

Eyescene still comes up first on my Google serach

 31 Oct 2008, 15:11

are we that controversial?

EyeTri 31 Oct 2008, 14:53

I checked Dog Pile, and Eye Scene is there.

Guest 31 Oct 2008, 11:52

Yes.....It was removed from Google listing

sourgrapes 31 Oct 2008, 08:26

is eyescene off google? I always got here by typing it in, was the first hit, now it's gone. it's on yahoo, though

Dieter 30 Oct 2008, 06:54


Now you have me thinking of Steve Martin's Grandmother's Song - "be obsequious, purple, and clairvoyant" - and way off topic.

Andy 30 Oct 2008, 04:16

Dieter this is going to be a difficult story according to the definition on Wikipedia.

A sycophant (from the Greek συκοφάντης sykophntēs) is a servile person who, acting in his or her own self interest, attempts to win favor by flattering one or more influential persons, with an undertone that these actions are executed at the cost of his or her own personal pride, principles, and peer respect. Such a manner is called obsequiousness.

In ancient Greece the word was the Athenian counterpart of the Roman delator, a public informer. In modern Greek the term has retained its ancient classical meaning, and is still used to describe a slanderer or a calumniator.

In Obert Skye's Leven Thumps series of children's books, "sycophant" also refers to a race of small furry creatures whose job is to aid people who have entered Foo.

Alan the Sycophant was a bit character in the comic strip Dilbert by Scott Adams.

Dieter 29 Oct 2008, 08:33


No, I was laughing at your statement "As for the content, well all I can say is that death no longer holds any fear."

Now, if one of us can just work the word sycophantic into an eyescene story . . . . .

glassesforeveryone 29 Oct 2008, 08:00

I should have said indistinguishable from a lot of GOOD novels! I read what I'd written again and my comments certainly had a double meaning.

Dieter 29 Oct 2008, 07:28


I hold no judgements for your wonderful flattery, but your comments made me laugh! My cubicle neighbors in my office probably think I'm a psycho - oh well, I bet they already thought that.

Thank you and thanks to Slit for his previous post.

glassesforeveryone 29 Oct 2008, 05:30

I've only just got around to reading Dieter's latest creation. I've got to say, whilst trying to avoid sounding sycophantic, that your writing is excellent - the quality is indistinguishable from a lot of novels.

As for the content, well all I can say is that death no longer holds any fear.

Slit 13 Oct 2008, 09:02


Excellent story! you have a lot of good potential! Keep it up!

Doreen 13 Oct 2008, 00:46

VFL: thank you for these kind words. it's always good to hear when someone appreciates my work :)

VFL 12 Oct 2008, 07:26

I'm still trying to catch my breath after Doreen's last few. It is like the song Killing Me Softly. Something about finding all my letters and reading each one outloud.

Specs4ever 12 Oct 2008, 06:32

Hey Dieter, I will accept your compliment. However, you gave me one before I was able to tell you how much I enjoyed your most recent story. I think Field Of Vision was one of the best stories I have read. It is nice to see others writing stories, because honestly I am running out of ideas, and even I realize that some of my tales are a little "stale". Keep up the good work. We need the variety.

Dieter 10 Oct 2008, 21:12


I enjoyed reading your new story "Back From the Future". I've often thought that is the general direction our civilization is headed. Not sure if that's good or bad. I just know that I wouldn't enjoy living in a world that doesn't include sexy glasses.

Bobby - stories updated 07 Oct 2008, 05:20

My story site has been updated. There are:

2 new stories by Specs4ever, 1 new story by Dieter (still in Other Authors section, although I think he will deserve his own section soon), 1 new story by Julian in the MIG section (Jules should have his own section too, what do you think?), 1 new morph in Random Pix 2008, a sad looking Latina with myodiscs. The link is

Wurm 06 Oct 2008, 09:40

Something about the text you are trying to post must be hitting a spam-filter then. I can't think of any other explanation, since you are able to post here just fine.

Try posting something else to Post Your Prescription.

Slit 06 Oct 2008, 02:25

Thanks wurm,

But it still doesnt work. I tried clearing up my cookies also without a result.

but i shall wait and try later. may be this is a short term error.

Wurm 05 Oct 2008, 20:21

Works OK for me, Slit.

I put up a test post to that thread, and it went through OK (I think I'll delete it now though).

Slit 05 Oct 2008, 19:17

Hi Wurm,

I am trying to make a posting on the "Post your prescription" thread and it doesnt work.

Please look in to it.

Thanks in advance!

Puffin 05 Oct 2008, 11:18

Thanks, that's very kind of you. What's the puppy called? Make sure he gets a bone or whatever puppies eat. :-)

All4Eyes 05 Oct 2008, 08:41

I seem to recall a certain fish-eating bird is having a birthday today-Happy Birthday Puffin! BTW, your puppy character in my novel is having lots of fun playing with GWGs 8-).

I ALWAYS make passes at guys who wear glasses, Marie

Tomx 02 Oct 2008, 20:29

Please tell us some more about that biased as hell, sawed-off, worthless, little midget, Katie Corrosive.

Myopic Grant 01 Oct 2008, 22:02

I have a new pair of glasses with transition lens' in them, and I put them directly in the sun on my deck today for a few minutes to see how dark they'd get. I brought them in after that and put them back in their case. When I got home after work I checked them, and they still have just the slightest bit of tint left in them, and I know before they were completely clear. Has anyone had this same experience, and does it ever go back to completely clear, or are the lens' defective? Thanks for the help...

Slit 30 Sep 2008, 09:02

Hm... I understand it now.

Admin wanted this to freeze at this level and not to go in to the he risk of receiving any negative postings about palin.

Anyways, hope to see more pix of her on web.

Some of the girls in my office are also talking about Palins glasses! Seems fashion is spreading to asia too!

Ted 30 Sep 2008, 09:00

Slit, Wurm posted this at the top of the page.

I've locked this thread, leaving it at a (hopefully) informative place for the many searcher for Sarah Palin glasses information who are coming through. - Admin

Slit 30 Sep 2008, 08:54

Hi Wurm.

The "Post a message" link is missing on the "News Personalities" thread.

Did u remove it by purpose?

nzoptic 29 Sep 2008, 13:22

re earthquake. I am in New Zealand. the eathquake was located at the Kermadec Islands 1000km north east of New Zealand, there have been aftershocks, tsunami are not predicted as they were 350km deep. It appears it was not really felt in New Zealand. There are (apparantly) about 10 conservation people working on the islands

Tomx 29 Sep 2008, 09:25



Wurm 28 Sep 2008, 14:05

I don't personally feel the political posts on here merit much attention, so I haven't accorded them very much. Sometimes it's easier for me to just revert to a prior version of a thread instead of trying to do a surgery job on it. This is already covered in the FAQ.

I've locked the News Personalities thread and rolled it back to the post that most searchers appear to be looking for (ES is getting a notable traffic boost from people who want info on Palin's frames). I will make it available again at some point.

Good luck to all partisans with your respective candidates and philosophies.

Tit4Tat 28 Sep 2008, 07:51

I guess its OK to bash people on the right of the political spectrum here on EYESCENE. But to do the same to those on the left side of the political spectrum will lead to one's post being deleted.

Now I understand and agree 100% that this site is not for political statements. As it should be. So it is my hope that the administer of this site please remove ALL post of a political nature, including this one but not exclusively this one or only those leaning to the right while keeping those on the left.

PS: there is a plethora of political blogs of all political leanings on the internet. I trust at least this one can remain above the political frey.

Jennifer 16 Sep 2008, 11:57

Glassesforeveryone, great story! It was appealing for those of us that typically like mig stories. Can you develop your "Steve" character. I would love to learn more about him. What a great story!

lazysiow 15 Sep 2008, 20:36

Agreed on all of the... below lol.

Eagerly awaiting sequel/followup now :)

Slit 15 Sep 2008, 14:31


it is a fine story! very high quality in terms of:

1. Flow

2. Connections

3. Connection of theoritical & practical knowledge of optics

4. Realistic progression of eye sight

I am looking forward to seeing the follow up stories. Curious about what will happen to Sarah, whether she will have progressing hyperopia (or latent hyperopia coming out), needingmore help to see up close and consider bifocals, social challenges as a young bifocal/plus glasses wearer, the impact of glasses on sports, her family life & romance... wow!

A lot of things to come up... and eagerly waiting!

Curt 15 Sep 2008, 13:44

glassesforeveryone: I agree...great job! There are so many stories out there about people wearing strong minus lenses; it is nice to read a story about a hyperope every once in a while. You have a fine writing style, and the dialog between your characters is very realistic and true-to-life.

Keep up the good work.

Charles 15 Sep 2008, 11:43

Great story, glassesforever! Keep at it, please.

Dieter 15 Sep 2008, 09:50

glassesforeveryone, I enjoyed the detailed "interplay" and dialogue between your characters. Also glad that I motivated someone to do anything (LOL)! Keep it up.

glassesforeveryone 15 Sep 2008, 09:06

Thanks for all the positive feedback.

You're absolutely right about Becca - it was meant to be a little twist as you'd expect her to behave a little better than that.

That said I have 2 more stories in my head which follow this (intro) story. One that focuses on what happens next for Sarah, including Becca (a little) and then one which focuses on Becca a few years later and how their paths cross again. These two stories won't focus so much on the glasses though - although they are definitely a key theme. (Just got to try and find the time to write more)

I am really glad you liked the story - I was motivated to try to write it after reading Dieter's recent story.

Don't give up on Becca...

Julian 14 Sep 2008, 19:12

Yes, I was kind of disappointed in Becca at the very end of the story; right up till then she was a really nice girl, but then she behaved right out of character. I know it's only a story, but still...

Puffin 14 Sep 2008, 14:38

I enjoyed that too. Different from the usual fare.

lazysiow 14 Sep 2008, 10:15

PS any Sarah's out there? I'm practically in love with her at this point ;)

lazysiow 14 Sep 2008, 09:43

That story by GlassesForEveryone is amazing. Ive been getting a bit tired/jaded of the latest round of stories but that one is my new favourite. All the little details like Sarah being unable to see outside of her glasses and her gradual progression, not of her prescription but her adaptation to her glasses really make the story stand out. The only thing I'm disappointed by is Becca's character being too quick to change, you would think she would know better but anyway I hope there is a sequel. Now Becca needs her come uppance. Maybe she'll get an eye infection and not be able to tolerate contacts anymore, wonder what her new "friends" will think of her then. Sarah could get a larger frame that hold better and give her more peripheral vision and make a comeback :)

Puffin 12 Sep 2008, 07:31

Hey Bobby (and all others who might be interested), I'm still working on Dear Diary VI.

Bobby - update 12 Sep 2008, 05:09

erm erm ... I forgot to provide the link

Am really I getting that old and absentminded?

Bobby - update 12 Sep 2008, 05:06

I have just finished the update of my story website. There are 2 new strories by S4E, 6 new stories by Doreen, 1 new story by GlassesForEveryOne, and a very special text: Wannabe by Gordo A Gordo, who gave me his kind permission to publish his new film script Wannabe on my website. I would like to thank all the authors for their effort and for the possibility to enjoy fruits of their talents.

Wurm 28 Aug 2008, 22:09

Looks like someone copying text out of a chat log. I've cleaned it up. Thanks for the report.

Cactus Jack 28 Aug 2008, 17:36


We are suddenly getting some strange posts that are seemingly game related. Any ideas?

terrie 21 Aug 2008, 13:16

Regarding "How long have you been with EyeScene:" I've been a lurker here for about a year after discovering the site in March '07. I've also had a fascination with glasses, girls with glasses and such, and like some others felt myself to be "wierd in some way" about it; I've had glasses since grade school (now -4.75) and so was elated to find ES. Thanks, Wurm and you others, for keeping everything going--and interesting.

Bobby 19 Aug 2008, 00:28

bobby dot laurel at seznam dot cz

RBK 18 Aug 2008, 18:25

Hey, I started to write a story. However I kinda stink at it....can anyone give me an email or faceboook address?

High Minus Dude 18 Aug 2008, 13:28

Totally agree with glassesforeveryone. Dieter's story is brilliant!

Galileo 18 Aug 2008, 07:51

Another nice tactful response Wurm :)

glassesforeveryone 18 Aug 2008, 04:20

I've just been reading some of the new additions to Bobby's site. I've got to say I thought Dieter's Entrapment? story was fantastic.

I wish there was a way of making such fantasies a reality!

Thanks to all the contributors to Bobby's site, I love reading all the stories.

Wurm 17 Aug 2008, 19:51

Clare, you are using a set of addresses that is blocked from posting due to someone 'running characters' i.e. lots of bogus posts.

Please email me if wish to discuss this further for any reason:

Galileo 15 Aug 2008, 21:43

Wurm and Clare - I had that problem once, it turned out to be the security settings on my PC which were blocking the posting page

Wurm 15 Aug 2008, 13:38

I think Clare means that she can't post to this site.

I'm looking into the issue, and should be able to offer more information by the weekend.

Bobby 15 Aug 2008, 13:31

I have just checked the website if everything is OK. The website is up and running. Well, it is rather slow in showing pitures.

Clare, try this link

it should send you just on the main page with Specs4ever's stories.

What browser do you use?

Clare 15 Aug 2008, 12:48

Hi all. I can't post to the site from my pc. Does anyone have any idea why that might be? When I select post the page never appears. Please help! Thanks

Bobby 13 Aug 2008, 15:34

Thank you, Slit.

I have just added 4 new morphs. I hope you will like them.

Slit 10 Aug 2008, 02:00


Thanks a lot, its a nice bunch of stories!

Special gratitude to Dieter, for serving the niche market of plus glasses/bifocals fans!

Probably the posting by Brett on the sightings thread would be a good inspiration for the next story, i find it somewhat romantic as well :-)

Stories 08 Aug 2008, 18:47

Hi all, I am back at my PC, working late night and ... yes! There are new stories at

The Adventures of Myopia Fairy continues, S4E added 2 good stories, Dieter sent 2, and we have 2 more new authors, Maria sent 1 for the Men in glasses section, and Shekhar sent 2 to Other authors. So, have a good time reading. Yours Bobby

VFL 04 Aug 2008, 00:52

Dear Wurm,

Interesting "W-kineta" site you sent me.

I wish I were that un-judgemental in all areas of my life. But, what a fascinating read.

Chris, you are one of the "best friends I never met." I do truly love you with all of my heart. I meant what I said about what you and your site have given me.

I don't know what it is that makes lenses so fascinating/exciting for me, except that they do.

You have given me the outlet...

I hope that you have the bestest of everything... Karma works, buddy!


Hope all of your dreams come true...

Your friend,


Who is a very real person...

There was once a saying and I can't remember who said it that read: "Those who give light to others cannot help but keep it from themselves."

Wurm 03 Aug 2008, 13:42

Malfunctioning adware maybe? You could try reinstalling your browser.

Galileo 03 Aug 2008, 08:38

I'm having trouble viewing links. Using Mozilla or IE7 on two different computers when I click on the link I get a server not found message, but the link has been changed in the address line. Usually the part of the address has disappeared (or whatever it said after http://)

I can get it back on Mozilla by typing the missing text back in and hitting enter, but on IE7 as soon as I hit enter part of the address disappears again.

Is this some sort of virus? I have three different anti-virus packages on the two machines but they all say everything is clean. Anyone else getting this?


Wurm 14 Jul 2008, 09:10

Hi Galileo,

Thanks for the feedback. That's a nice way to start my week!

I know I can't be all things to all people. I try to focus on what I believe will keep the site going over the long haul.

It has been interesting to see the range of reactions as people discover that someone here has linked to their photos. Perhaps we can have a more thorough discussion about it on this thread.

Galileo 14 Jul 2008, 05:51

To Wurm:

I just want to say I am very impressed with the even handed and professional way you deal with "flame wars" and "trolls" everyone has the opportunity to contribute to this site and you seem to know exactly where to draw the line when people get rude or off topic.


LikeGlass 18 Jun 2008, 12:08

Wurm! Been about 10 years here myself! And about 6 (if I remember right), since we all met up in Disney World with you and SG. Site is still going strong! (By the way, Chip sends her best. ) I think it was 1998 when I first stumbled on ES & LC when searching for cute chicks with glasses. Still do those searches!

Pete 18 Jun 2008, 12:03

I have been here since a couple days after the site came on line.

I have met several of the people in person.

It has been enjoyable all the way.

It is too bad the chat didn't work out as well.

The original chat room worked extremely well for quite awhile till

the typical few bad apples ran it into the ground.

Filthy McNasty 18 Jun 2008, 11:37

Wurm, it must be almost ten years since I visited you in person that time.

Filthy McNasty 18 Jun 2008, 11:35

I remember first finding this site, and what a thrill it was to discover others as odd as (and in some cases substantially odder than) I. I am far more of a lurker now than anything else, and I tend to take this site for granted, but I hope that it never disappears.

Cheers and thanks to Wurm, Julian, and all the other old (and new) members.

Curt 18 Jun 2008, 11:29

still: I think you are talking about is still there, but has a couple of resident jerks (some joker named Zetsu and another named Otis Brown, who seems to be Bates reincarnated). I check it every once in a while, but it is more flame wars than anything.

I've been here since mid-1997, and was thrilled to find out that other people were as interested in glasses and vision as I was.

still 18 Jun 2008, 10:21

Just to add my bit, since I was away from my computer: I can't remember the first time I visited Eyescene - like some others I started looking for eye-related material in the 90's, maybe 1995, and there was a site for discussion of eye-related issues, something-or-other, which I visited regularly. And then there was Eyescene, and that's where I stayed. Thanks, Chris, for all this...

Wurm 17 Jun 2008, 08:22

Thanks for all the kind words about the site. It's especially gratifying to hear from people who have been visiting for many years.

I can't offer a "how I found this site" story, but I do remember searching for glasses content using the old Gopher (pre-Web) search engine! And I vividly remember the first few days of the 'polls' comment system here: puzzling through my first lines of code in Perl and then hoping there would be enough traffic to make the effort worthwhile. The polls format was inspired by a polls themed 'room' I administered on a university BBS system in the early 1990s.

specs4ever 15 Jun 2008, 18:15

I also came on board about 6 months after the original Eyescene started. I had run across postings by Wurm, Neuro Joe, Filthy and a girl named Jennifer on Deja News, and was extremely pleased to see thta I wasn't the only one with a penchant for GWG's. It took me a while before I found Eyescene, but once I found it I was hooked.

There were a fair number of people that were posting fictional stories as real, and I remember being very disappointed when the Jennifer mentioned above turned out to be an Internet personna.

I started writing soem fistional stories myself, and I sent them off to a few other readers, such as Lenslover, who had started a website of his own(the old Smudge Report) He posted some of my stories, and eventually Wurm provided a venue for authors on Eyescene. But the writings section took up too much bandwidth, so fortunately Bobby was able to give all of us budding writers a home. I would like to thank Lenslover, Wurm, and Bobby for their assistance, because when I started there was no decent glasses wearers fiction to be found.

And maybe there still isn't, cause I think I am a large number of those hits Bobby. I can't resist going in to read my stories again, even though they are all filed on my computer. There is just something special about going to a website to read stuff :).

lazysiow 14 Jun 2008, 17:22

Oh but I do remember spending a full weekend with my jaw dropped that such a place even existed and reading non stop till my eyes got watery and blurry :)

It was mainly this site that got me to go for a proper eye test convinced I was myopic. I was also secretly thrilled that I might get an rx for it, as I'd almost flunked a school eye test when I was a kid on account of my (then) minor astigmatism that I was able to quickly guess correctly through.

lazysiow 14 Jun 2008, 17:17

Ive been here since 2000, I was linked from another site about a comic character who was also nearsighted. There was discussion about how in the comic her glasses kept falling off and the artist would also draw from her blurry pov.

For the longest time I also thought I was the only one lol (with the exception of that guy who wrote that song "I like girls with glasses is there something wrong with me?").

Bob 14 Jun 2008, 15:33

I discovered Eye Scene in March 1998. In those days I would frequently google glasses, vision, women who wear glasses or other phrases and to my suprise I found this site one afternoon. The first poll I remember reading was about why people decide to wear glasses all the time. I think I have gone to this site at least once every day since, except during times Eye Scene was down or during times that for one reason or another I did not have access to a computer.

Melyssa 14 Jun 2008, 12:01

I discovered this sight -- uh, site -- in 1998, and have been on it regularly since 2004.

-5.00 who luvs gwgs 14 Jun 2008, 04:59

I found ES when surfing the net for sexy girls with thick glasses or something similar about 4 years ago I could not believe that what I liked was not unique .I have learnt a lot i believed that -20 was the ultimate based on The Bates book although I appreciated power rings and thickness I did not notice cut in which is I reckon the best indication of power.Thanks a million times wurm

Mark One 14 Jun 2008, 00:09

I discovered the site almost at the beginning in 1997. My first post was on poll 2. These days I mostly read because I don't want to keep repeating myself. However, I'm still here because the subject is endlessly fascinating.

Specs4Me 13 Jun 2008, 22:15

Found the site sometime between '98 and '00. All I can say for sure is that it was in the previous version of the site at the time.

I check the site daily unless I am traveling and can't discreatly get an internet connection. Sometimes several times a day.

I too thought I was the only "Odd Ball" out there and was very pleased to learn that I am simply an "OO" what a relief.

Thanks Wurm for keeping this site alive for so many years, you do a great job and we don't thank you enough!

Puffin 13 Jun 2008, 17:02

I can't remember exactly when I found this site, I think it was 2000 or 2001. As below, I thought I was the only one in the universe into glasses. How little I guessed what would happen when I first typed "thick glasses" into Google.

I have learned so much here and met some very interesting people, with equally interesting tales. And, there is no end to it! Every day I log in and someone else has something to say.

Bobby 13 Jun 2008, 13:14

I think I have been here since 1998. I have been reading this discussion regularly, almost every day. I do not contribute too much, as I have the feeling I have said everything a long time ago. I still remember my excitement, when I discovered EyeScene. It was a real milestone in my life.

I have often asked myself how many people come and read without writing anything. It is difficult to estomate. Wurm may know more.

Looking at my website with the stories and morphs I asked myself who are all the people who come to the site anytime I announce an update. The day before yesterday I was speaking about it with my girl friend because the number of people who came was very high. Look here :

The graph reads 900 unique visitors on Monday 9th June. Are there 900 Eyesceners? If so, it is amazing.

Thank you, Wurm, for this website. Thank you all, my brothers and sisters, that I am not alone.

James 13 Jun 2008, 11:32

I discovered the site in 1999 (late) and have read it obsessively since.

I now think it is regrettable that I waited till 2006 to make my first post.

Julian 13 Jun 2008, 10:58

Brian: your post sent me rooting through the archives and I found your first post in June 1997 (when you had an Rx but no glasses and were wondering what it would be like when you put them on!) I found the site a couple of months later, when I ws looking for some information, was hooked and have been hooked ever since (though I didn't call myself Julian at first). I see names like Curt, aviator -oo- and Filthy McNasty (originally Dr Z) that are still around.

Galileo 13 Jun 2008, 05:07

Brian, I'm a long time glasses fetishist and I thought I was odd until I found eyescene probably a bit before you did. I've been reading regularly since and I've learned so much as well - science, fashion, how others feel about the whole glasses thing, including the women who I find so fascinating.

It's a great forum and long may it continue!

Brian 12 Jun 2008, 19:29

Its amazing how long this forum has been around and how successful it has been over the years.. I've been around since I got my first pair of glasses at 18 years old in 1997.. Now at 29 years old my prescription is -5.75, -5.25.. I continue to enjoy the site and reading the posts. It might be interesting to see those who are still around, how long they have been participating in the site, what got them here and what keeps them coming back. Congrats to continued success with the website.

Dieter 10 Jun 2008, 04:50

hooked and Julian,

Thanks for your comments. When readers respond, it helps me determine what they find interesting.

Bobby 09 Jun 2008, 12:11

Julian: It should have been 8 stories. I made a typo. There is no 9th story. Sorry.

hooked 09 Jun 2008, 01:29

The first story from Dieter about Taylor is extraordinary.

I had an idea similar to that by my own (not exactly the same for sure)which I never really gave rise but Dieter poured it into words

Julian 07 Jun 2008, 14:37

9 new stories? I've found, rad and enjoyed two by specs4ever and 6 by Dieter - great writing! But where's the 9th?

Bobby has updated again 07 Jun 2008, 12:44

Hi all, the June's update is on. There are 9 new stories and 7 new morphs. Come and enjoy:

specs4ever 08 May 2008, 18:36

Thanks for the compliments. I was pretty satisfied with both of these stories, and I figure if I still enjoy them a year after I have written them they must be ok. Glad you think so as well.

Specs4Me 08 May 2008, 14:24


Two more great stories, thanks and keep 'em comin!

 08 May 2008, 14:00

MySQL error: 144 (Table './lenschat_lenschatpchat1/c_users' is marked as crashed and last (automatic?) repair failed)

Session halted.

 08 May 2008, 13:57

Does anyone know what happened to Lenschat? It's been down for at least a couple of days.

Julian 08 May 2008, 05:24

I know specs4ever reckons he's running out of ideas, but there isn't much sign of it: great stories S4E!

Bobby 08 May 2008, 03:27

The May update: There are 2 new stories about women with strong glasses at my website.

Tim 27 Apr 2008, 21:57


Dieter 21 Apr 2008, 07:45

specs4ever, thank you for the kind words. It is awesome to receive feedback from "The Master". I already found at least 1 mispelling that I wish I could fix - lol. I have 5 more stories that I hope to have ready for Bobby soon.

Puffin 20 Apr 2008, 17:26

I'm busy collecting ideas for another Dear Diary installment... it may even see the light of day :)

Andrew 20 Apr 2008, 13:47

And the link to Bobby's site is

If you try that one, it does work!

Andrew 20 Apr 2008, 13:45

Thank you Reggie - nice to see someone recognised my feeble attempt at humour for what it was.

specs4ever 19 Apr 2008, 17:58

Dieter, I really enjoyed your story "The Storm" It was very well done, and imaginative. All4eyes, Rare Blood was a novel concept, and was a treat to read. Thanks to both of you.

Bobby 19 Apr 2008, 13:04

Erm the link is

If anything (links etc.) is not working properly, send me an email. I will be back here on Monday 11:00 CET and I will repair it..

BOBBY 19 Apr 2008, 13:02

I have updated my website with stories. A lot of news, a lot of work. Sorry for the delay.

Reggie 18 Apr 2008, 13:54

Not the CJ Andrew is referring to. He did not get where he is today by being nice :)

hooked 18 Apr 2008, 12:57

If I might apply.

I want to be the one looking for those women with the strongest glasses with positive RX.

If I wear glasses or not doesn't matter.

All4Eyes 18 Apr 2008, 12:34

Puffin: Perfect! I actually had a friend once who had a dog we nicknamed "The Tounge" because he always came bounding over to me and started licking my glasses like crazy! Eventually I learned to take them off when I saw him approach.

All4Eyes 18 Apr 2008, 12:11

Andrew: Also, may I ask what's wrong with the name CJ? I happen to have known several CJ's, and some of them (including Cactus) happened to be nice people!

All4Eyes 18 Apr 2008, 11:57

Andrew: Where are you today, then, if I may ask?

Everyone else: OK, I'll "see" if I can squeeze you in!

I ALWAYS make passes at guys who wear glasses, Marie

Pauline 18 Apr 2008, 09:12

I can be the crosseyed girl, even if i am an older girl

Andrew 18 Apr 2008, 08:14

I didn't get where I am today by writing books with characters called CJ in them...

lazysiow 17 Apr 2008, 17:46

I'll be the underwear of the knockout GWG :)

Melyssa 17 Apr 2008, 13:12


For your novel, if you need the character of a woman who wears 30 pairs of big, bold, and beautiful glasses, especially drop-temples and cat's-eyes, I'm your girl! Or your character. :)

Katy 17 Apr 2008, 12:16

Wow All4Eyes, how exciting! I can't wait to read it! :-)

Puffin 17 Apr 2008, 11:03

I'm prepared to be a puppy, but I'll only lick & play with GWGs, okay?

All4Eyes 16 Apr 2008, 16:47

Hey y'all, I'm working on a novel right now, not the one I asked for advice on somewhere here, but another one. It's not all that ambitious I guess you'd say, just a story about a family reunion, but with a few twists, and I'm hoping it might even be made into a movie someday. There are 31 characters so far and I'm thinking I'd like to name as many as I can after my friends here at Eyescene. Here's who I've got so far:

Bobby Laurel

Chris Mitchell





Dave Smith (Specs4Ever's name, don't you know)

VFL (this was a toughie, but I've decided a character will have VFL as her initials and be called a nickname based on them, pronounced "Viffle" (rhymes with wiffle & sniffle)



CJ (for Cactus Jack)



I'd like to include LikeGlass, Electra, Filthy McNasty, Puffin, Daffy and some others, but can't think up good names to use for them. If I've got your name on this list and you don't want it to be in the book, or you want to know what "your character" (although I'm really not basing the characters on the people they're named after, just using the names) will be like (in order to use all the names I have now, some of the characters will have to be kids or deceased relatives referred to only in memories), or if your name isn't on my list and you want it to be in the book (I'll do the best I can, but no promises, I can only add so many characters! Though I guess I could include some pets, if nobody minds having a puppy or a parakeet named after them!), please email me at southern_starshine (at) yahoo (dot) com and let me know. P.S. As a nod to reality and an indulgence of my OO, most of the characters will wear glasses. Let me know if you have a preference for "your character's" rx. If this does ever become a movie, I'm going to make sure the actors and actresses wear real glasses, too!

I ALWAYS make passes at guys who wear glasses, Marie

Wurm 18 Mar 2008, 10:47

re: Optical4Less sponsorship

Please see my post 01 Mar 2008, 16:07

There is also a link to O4L in the FAQ.

Guest 18 Mar 2008, 10:31

where's the link to Optical4less?

specs4ever 16 Mar 2008, 07:05

I will be sending next months stuff off to Bobby in the next few days. From then on it is out of my hands, as I know Bobby is very busy himself.

But I am glad that you like the story Julian. I really liked it, and I just had to continue it, especially when All4eyes came up with new ideas.

Julian 16 Mar 2008, 01:45

That will DEFINITELY be worth waiting for, I love the Myopia Fairy story - let's hope we don't have to wait too long!

specs4ever 15 Mar 2008, 21:07

Stay tuned to Bobby's site for the next episode in The Myopia Fairy series, a combined effort from All4eyes and Specs4ever.:-)

All4Eyes 15 Mar 2008, 15:56

Oh, Specs4Ever, I do hope you don't stop writing! I know you've done so many stories already, and I understand it can get tough to constantly think up new angles to write from on the same basic topic (glasses and vision problems), but your stories are SO GOOD and as you say nobody else seems to be writing now. I mean, I do love to write (check my most recent post to Going Without Glasses thread) but I don't think I can single-handedly keep the glasses stories torch burning!

I ALWAYS make passes at guys who wear glasses, Marie

specs4ever 08 Mar 2008, 12:20

Hey lazysiow, I would be more than happy to have you send me any ideas you might have for stories. Andy has sent me quite a few, and I have taken his ideas, and for the most part have turned them into good stories. Now I won't guarantee that I can make every idea into a story, but sometimes all it takes is an idea, and the idea can gell in my mind for a while. Then all of a sudden I find that I am creating characters, and a story is coming together. In some cases I have had a story stalled, partially written on my computer for ages and ages, unable to continue past a certain point. Then for some unknown reason an idea comes to me and I am able to finish it. What is even funnier is when I get a story to a point where I can go no further, and I go back to it, and back to it, trying to carry it forward to copmpletion. Then I read it again, and with the simple addition of a paragraph, or a few changes in the body of the story I realize that the story is already finished.

I did not make any of my previous comments to draw out words of encouragement, however I thank those who have commented.

My e mail is, and I definitely give anyone who sends me an idea credit for their part. I also send them the finished story, for their approval well before it ever appears in print.

Bobby 07 Mar 2008, 05:30

As you can see Wednesday 5th March and Thursday 6th march show a large number of Page Views. By comparing with the internal statistic data from the I found out it was caused by a single user. All I can reveal about him is: The person is from the state of New York, USA and he is connected via Optimum Online Company. I think he is a newcomer, who discovered the site and kept cliking and reading a lot of the pages. He made 2.81% of all accesses since the beginning of March. You can see a large number of "Returning visitors" (the green bar) on Wednesday, I am sure it was him. A situation like this happens about once a year only.

Sometimes, looking at the statistics, I ask myself: For heavens sake, who are the readers?

I last tested the IPs by entering the them into the in mid February. Most visitors are from the US, about 1/5 of them, then Germany, UK, followed by other EU countries. However there are visitors from all continents.

Bobby 07 Mar 2008, 05:15

BTW, my own visits of the website are not counted.

Bobby 07 Mar 2008, 04:58

1. Do people really read the stories?

Yes, they do. The website has a new feature, which you will find at the bottom left corner of the initioal page, it is the Bravenet Free Counter. Look at the number. Now it is 10,620 accesses since the beginning of February. Click the "VIEW SITE STATS" to see last 7 days.

2. I get about 1 or 2 e-mails a month with some feedback. It is always positive.

3. I can access another statistics, I am provided with by server. It shows which pages are most visited. Believe me, the stories are really read and I am sure they are enjoyed too. The pix are popular too.

4. Specs4ever, do not stop writing. Your stories are real the classic style of the genre!

lazysiow 07 Mar 2008, 00:44

I think I might be able to help here. Ive had ideas for lots of glasses related stories, but no time to write. If I'm lucky I get to write up a premise or treatment. Usually mine are of epic variety and to date Ive only ever actually written one which I posted on ES years ago but never finished. It was probably too long for most people too.

I'll see if I can drop you an email if your website's email is still current when I can dig/write some of these up. I do miss the old glory days of Fantasy Optical

Julian 06 Mar 2008, 23:38

S4E: I hate the idea of your source of stories drying up; I'm lost in admiration for the amazing variety of your ideas. Having written a few stories myself (and still trying to) I recognize that in some cases I've just taken an idea from another writer and given it a gay slant. You don't fall into that trap. A long as you can find a story to write, I'll be eager to read it!

Tod 06 Mar 2008, 22:31

almost every web site you post to has these little 1x2 or 2x4 little boxes to type in. I am getting sick of them. Why doesn't somebody invent larger typing spaces to typr post to. It is so difficult to check spelling etc. in these little boxes. Eyescene's is larger than most but still too small.

Tod 06 Mar 2008, 22:30

almost every web site you post to has these little 1x2 or 2x4 little boxes to type in. I am getting sock of them. Why doesn't somebody invent larger typing spaces to typr post to. It is so difficult to check spelling etc. in these little boxes. Eyescene's is larger than most but still too small.

PLEASE SOMEBODY fix this problem!

Specs4ever 06 Mar 2008, 18:43

Thanks Dave. Unfortunately I am going to have to stop, or wind down sometime. I have been doing my best to come up with 2 stories a month for Bobby, to make his updates more interesting. So far I have managed, but the ideas are getting harder and harder to come by. I have been hoping that some other writers would step in to fill my shoes, but Puffin no longer seems to have time to write, and no one, other than All4eyes really manages to come up with any..

Aussie Dave 06 Mar 2008, 17:28

Hey Specs4ever

Love your stories. Please never stop writing them

Specs4ever 06 Mar 2008, 16:38

Thanks for the words of encouragement. A pat on the back does help from time to time.

Funny, but I had never noticed the connection between myopic fathers and myopic children. I have seen far more mothers who wore glasses that passed the myopic genes to their daughters. Now you will have me looking at the fathers as well, although it is known that any myopic parent increases the chance of the child being myopic.

Tim 04 Mar 2008, 21:51

Specs4ever - my observations have indicated that myopia seems to pass down the male line more often than the female, so I'm not altogether surprised that your inspiration's children don't wear glasses. However, I am yet to meet a myopic father whose children do not become so!

I would guess that the best test of her claim would be whether or not her father wore glasses. In the cases I mentioned, neither did - so I believed their assertion (even at the age of 11 I had spotted the genetic connection!)

Do keep up the good work - I agree that your stories are the best out there!

Specs4Me 04 Mar 2008, 20:33

You can bet we do read them! I personally start watching Bobby's site on the first of each month, just can't wait for the new updates to show up.

S4E, yours are the best GWG stries our there. Keep'em comin'.

Specs4ever 04 Mar 2008, 18:05

Hey Tim, the idea for that story came from a lady I knew in real life who had a -29OD and -28OS prescription. She had suffered from a serious fever when she was 2 years old, and she claimed that the virus caused her eyesight to go. She had 2 children, and neither child wore glasses, so I suspected that her story might be true.

Actually, I am glad to see that you made a comment. Now that the storys are posted on Bobby's site there never seems to be any feedback, so I sometimes wonder if anyone still reads them.

Wurm 02 Mar 2008, 09:49

Thanks very much for your suggestion, JC. My life has already been enriched by the experience here in many different ways. Your enthusiasm is reward enough, really. But I will add your suggestion to my short list of ideas for the future.

JC 01 Mar 2008, 22:46


In response to the news about Optical4Less I would like to take a moment to thank you for all the work and resources you have put into maintain this site for over 10 years.

May I suggest that you set up a PayPal donation program so that those of us that would like to contribute to this site may do so? I imagine that the appearance of commercialization of this site is something you would try to avoid -- perhaps you could place this option in some unobtrusive location? I for one would be honored with an opportunity to support this great site in some small way.

Tim 01 Mar 2008, 22:00

BTW, Bobby, I can't get in to Mishiak's pix. Is the link not working?

Tim 01 Mar 2008, 21:56

Specs4ever's new story, Viral Myopia, may not be as fanciful as one might think. Way back in the 50's, I remember two boys at my prep school who had been told that their eyesight had been ruined by measles. In those days it was the accepted wisdom that measles constituted a risk to the eyes, and it was common practice to keep the patient in a darkened room while counselling against the use of the eyes.

These two lads had both disobeyed their doctors' orders, and had been reading by torchlight under the bedclothes. Result - at 11 they both had significant prescriptions (I had no idea of it at the time, but would now guess about -3) and were probably well on the way to becoming high myopes. I have not seen either of them for 50 years or so, so I don't know where they ended up!

Wurm 01 Mar 2008, 16:07

I just want to take a moment to thank Optical4Less for their sponsorship of Eye Scene over the past four years or so. I get the impression that Albert, who I had been working with there, may have left or is taking some time off.

I may try other sponsorship or revenue opportunities, but for now I look forward to reverting back to hobby mode. I'm taking the ads down now.

Bobby updated 01 Mar 2008, 08:45

Hi, I updated my website

with 2 new stories and 5 new morphs. Bobby

RL 12 Feb 2008, 17:00

Check out the ultimate GWG; "Jennifer," in the Other Authors section of Bobby's GOC site.

Puffin 09 Feb 2008, 17:26

actually I'm looking at some of the stories I wrote and surprising myself that I wrote them. never mind one day I hope to do some more. I just never get time these days, or if I do, then I start worrying about finishing it.

Puffin 09 Feb 2008, 17:23

I just looked at my story file, and found some half-written bits and pieces and some odd ideas I jotted down. Some are "starts" on stories, others just a title and a short summary of what I was thinking of. To be honest some of them are cryptic and open to interpretation.


Foggy world


alien girl with crap vision comes to (earth) to find the secret of making glasses.


At the Earth's Core


Somebody invents a machine to burrow underground. there's a whole bunch of myopic women there! scantily clad too(!)


Glasses religion


Someone starts a religion because of interpreting the bible, perhaps somewhere in there it says "you must wear glasses no contacts.'

there's more if people want to see.

oh how i wish i had the time to think about all this, let alone write more.

specs4ever 09 Feb 2008, 10:58

Puffin, I also have enjoyed your stories. I have downloaded some of them from the old eyescene files. I would love to take these stories, edit them a little and post them on Bobby's site for you, but only if you want me to take the time to do so. If you wish, e mail me at Of course I would give you final approval of the edited story if I could e mail it to you.

Puffin 09 Feb 2008, 10:02

although I have ideas for another "Dear Diary" but no time to do it.

Puffin 09 Feb 2008, 10:00

I haven't had a website for a long time and I doubt I ever will again. I just never seem to have time to write anything now. :-(

Julian 09 Feb 2008, 07:46

Puffin, I seem to remember a lot of your stories on a website somewhere, but I've lost the link. Am I right? If so, can you post the link again, or maybe upload the stories to Bobby's site where so much glasses fiction is preserved?

peeking duck 09 Feb 2008, 05:28

hey puffin would you mind sending me that story to my email please is

Puffin 09 Feb 2008, 04:13

yes I do. I really like girls with big tits and glasses.

peeking duck 08 Feb 2008, 19:49

hey puffin you wrote a story a while back called crime and punishment and i was wondering if you still had that story if not cool but if you do i would really like to read it it was one of my favorites

Bobby 03 Feb 2008, 21:33

The February update of the story website has been made. See for new stories and morphs.

Ivan 17 Jan 2008, 08:20


There is an online dating site where you can specify on searches various preferences.One of them is a glasses option ie,what level of importance you require for search results. I think.Perhaps if other site's began to offer that as a search preference? Udate does then offer non-dedicated option which may help you with meeting up gwg's.

nickweymouth 17 Jan 2008, 02:29

as the poster of this coment my freind i have to say i agrea with you 100 percent one does have a tendencey to go in feet first with out thinking things through first therefore i am always gratfull for the voice of reason and CONSTRUCTIVE critisism

regards Nick

Tim 16 Jan 2008, 23:36

Re the recent post in Induced Myopia. I like the idea of a dating site for O-Os, but do not think that a new thread on this site would do. Although many (perhaps most) of us are genuine, there are clearly a number of fakes and weirdos - so certainly some form of screening would be needed.

Or maybe those middle-aged men who pose as teenaged girls would welcome ecstatic approaches from teen and twenty boys?!

Bobby 09 Jan 2008, 10:34

There was an article about the glasses fetish some years ago. It existed unchanged for about a year. Later the link to the Eyescene was removed, as some members of the Eyescene community thought is was better not to have the link there. The article as it was originally written (well, with some minor changes) disappeared from English Wikipedia between the years 2003-2006. I do not know who deleted it or who chnged the article so much that it was some time later included into this article:

IMHO I doubt there is any sense in creating an article about glasses fetish again as Wiki community seem not to be able to accept such an article. I belive it would be included into an article about other fetishes again. Well, look for yourself and study the history of the only remaining article.

Slit 09 Jan 2008, 08:35


this OO primer is really interesting.

may be we can develop a wikipedia article using it!

Slit 09 Jan 2008, 08:25

Wow Bobby!

Thank you very much! this time you have a "plus" GWG story!


Bobby 08 Jan 2008, 09:03

Stories website has been updated.

go to


Phil 07 Jan 2008, 08:20

Clare, A Happy New Year to you too. I'm just back from Gran Canaria. A land of many tasty myopic senoritas though the aircraft full of British tourists was less promising: only one young low myope to entertain me. I hope you had a good Christmas and that in 2008 you get bold with those bold frames. I've just treated myself to a lovely pair of single vision rimless from Glassesdirect -4.25s which I will wear to and from (though still not at) work.

Therouteur 04 Jan 2008, 18:25

Very nicely put, Wurm

LikeGlass 03 Jan 2008, 19:13

Actually, the user can do that. Copy the link as text only and drop it in a new window. Truth is, some of the neatest people I've met here came as a result of link follow-back, so it's kind of nice ;)

sourgrapes 03 Jan 2008, 17:28

Would it be technically possible for the admins of this site to make it so links clicked from ES do not send referer information?

Wurm 03 Jan 2008, 17:19

I guess if a bunch of hits from this site constitutes your lesson in how the web is linked, you got off easy.

However, to editorialize for a moment, the front page of this site carries as one of its first outbound links a page with good tips on internet safety. Hopefully, newbies with doubts about how things work stop to check it out and ponder for a moment what they want to accomplish and how much of themselves to put online to get there.

Really, shouldn't any "social site" worth its salt have a page like that? I don't see anything comparable on Flickr.

A Little Freaked 03 Jan 2008, 15:35

Just so you know, Flickr now sends stats to the photo owners as to the location from where their photos are linked. That is how I got to this website. It is a bit creepy, I must admit, and will make my posts private from this point forward.

Clare 31 Dec 2007, 10:24

Hope this is the right place to wish everyone a very happy and fulfilling 2008.

Look forward to reading your contributions in 2008.

sourgrapes 24 Dec 2007, 22:55

merry xmas/newyears/holidas

Bart 20 Dec 2007, 15:04

Lenschat seems to have DNS problems now. What painful providers have you got in the US! :D

nickweymouth  19 Dec 2007, 11:14

ps sorry to every one about ones atroucius spelling darn dyslexia

a strange word realy for sdome one like me who cnat spell LOL

any ways happy holidays to to all even the moaners

nickweymouth 19 Dec 2007, 11:13

not sure mt self either pete still in for a penny in for a pound



ehpc 18 Dec 2007, 15:21

I don't know if the last post was directed to me or Nick. I was just making a small point, which does, of course, hardly matter. Actually I was promoting politeness. An instruction 'TRY TO BE PLEASANT AND POLITE' seems to me somewhat impolite, as if the expectation was that people are going to flare up all the time, which rarely happens.


Tess 17 Dec 2007, 14:34

If you are not happy with lenschat and the way it apparently incoveniences you then go chat someplace else! You're unlikely to be missed.

People like you were one of the reasons private chat was suspended.

nickweymouth 17 Dec 2007, 13:32

sighs rembering last years disater i think everyone on here is getting stressed due to christmass so this year i will NOT get abusive instead one will just say merry chrsitmass and a very happy new year to one and all mines alot better this year also alos i am sure there is amy who will agrea with me time for


ehpc 17 Dec 2007, 12:58

Nothing's wrong with being pleasant and polite obviously.But it seems to me cynical and authoritarian to believe that people need to be TOLD to be so.................

Melyssa 17 Dec 2007, 12:49

Those are 2 mistakes I always make. LOL

Puffin 17 Dec 2007, 06:21

So what's wrong with being pleasant and polite then???

ehpc 17 Dec 2007, 04:29

Could I also suggest removing the somewhat patronising,controlling and schoolma'amish injunction 'TRY TO BE PLEASANT AND POLITE' from Lens Chat which is hardly welcoming! Pete

ehpc 16 Dec 2007, 15:19

Guess what everyone? PRIVATE CHAT is back on Lens Chat !!!!! Great news:) Pete

Tod 13 Dec 2007, 20:57

Has anyone heard from Rambling Rose lately?

Bobby 13 Dec 2007, 04:48

OK, Sned it to the adderess you wil find at my website.

hooked 13 Dec 2007, 01:20


Peter G. translated my story in English.

May I sent to you on your mail address given in your homepage?

If it's good enough to publish that decision is up to you.

hooked 11 Dec 2007, 03:18


I sent it to you.

Peter G  11 Dec 2007, 02:32

@ hooked,

I am a qualified translator - no need for you to complete it.

hooked 10 Dec 2007, 00:39


It is not translated complete.

I have this to do before I can send it to you.

hooked 09 Dec 2007, 11:22


I will send it to you but I don't have it available now because it's weekend.

Peter G  09 Dec 2007, 01:45

@ Hooked,

you can contact me at

Correspondence in German or English.

Andrew 06 Dec 2007, 11:53

The power of the Internet is a wonderful thing - after I added that link I managed (from my computer in England) to get the song played on a country music station in Alberta (Canada) by a DJ currently on holiday in Jamaica! I didn't tell him why I had requested it though!

specs4ever 04 Dec 2007, 16:24

Thanks for posting the link Andrew - thats where the idea came from all right.

Andrew 04 Dec 2007, 11:18

I nearly posted this link on the "Seen on the Web" thread a couple of months ago, but as S4E has now had the story published on Bobby's site - here it is...

Specs4Me 03 Dec 2007, 20:57


I'm working on a new story which may be appropriate for your site. When I get it finishe I'll send it to you to take a look at. It is going to be several chapters long.


Bobby 03 Dec 2007, 14:19

Repaired. I do not know how it happened that there were so many broken links this time. I am very sorry.

lentifan 03 Dec 2007, 14:02


I still can't access S4E's 6 short stories in your bumper Dec update. i could open the other two S4E stories - I'm constantly amazed at his creativity in finding new angles, such as the lost property office story.

Bobby 03 Dec 2007, 12:00

I have just tried to repair the 4 errors I found. Go and try again.

I did not have time to do the November update as I was too busy making money. 8-) I cannot upload just one story at a time, as I get several stories for each monthly update from several authors. It takes some time to read the stories, choose the suitable ones, edit the files, add, link and change the page, check the whole web (it consists of 817 different files), and to upload the changed files. That is why I really prefer doing the job once a month

Spec4Me: When will you post more stories?

hooked: I will be glad to have your story on my web site (if it is in English).

hooked 03 Dec 2007, 10:58


First I need to open an e-mail-address with an anonymous name so I can send it to you without giving my real identity. I only have accounts with parts of my real name.

You'll hear from me.

Peter G  03 Dec 2007, 06:03


I would be happy to either retranslate your article, orjust to proofread and correct your "homemade" English version.

Peter G

hooked 03 Dec 2007, 01:14


But here on Eyescene there is by far more discussion.

Julian 03 Dec 2007, 00:35

No it isn't, it's

Julian 03 Dec 2007, 00:34

Hey Wurm, couldn't we do with a link to Bobby's site on the ES front page? BTW it's

optix 03 Dec 2007, 00:30

hi hooked,

what german Forum?

hooked 03 Dec 2007, 00:03


I've got a new computer and hadn't marked your URL.

Can you please repeat it?

Would you like to have a story from my part? I published it on a German forum and translated it by my own so the English won't be that well as from native speakers.

lazysiow 02 Dec 2007, 22:45

Oh yeah, Irickus' story is fantastic. He has the exact fantasy that I (and probably a few of us do) but describes it so well

And if it's not a fantasy... lucky bastard lol

lazysiow 02 Dec 2007, 22:19

You can just copy the location and add the name of the file for the broken links to view them.

Big update though, maybe next time you can do one story at a time? was looking forward to more stories :)

Specs4Me 02 Dec 2007, 20:25


Some of the links don't seem to work properly, in particlar the top two of S4E's stories. Thought you might like to know.

Thanks for posting all of these stories including mine.



Bobby 02 Dec 2007, 17:44

I have just updated my glasses stories web site. This time it goes like this:

December 2007 (23 new stories), 2 new stories Jennifer and New Glasses in Other authors section, 1 new morph (Paris Hilton) in Morphs by Andy, Just Once More, Have I Told You Lately That I Love You and a Collection of 6 Short Stories by Specs4ever in his section it is 8 new stories this time, 1 special story in Other Authors section, 8 stories by Doreen, see her section, Men in Glasses section got 4 new texts:

the Bed and Breakfast by Jules, A Unique Glasses Fetish Story - part 4 and 5, and the 3rd part of Dragon and the Mountains



LikeGlass 25 Nov 2007, 18:37

Actually, Lenschat is run by a third party if I am not mistaken. Also, to "guest" below, all chats these days (AOL, MSN, etc) are recorded and the user IPs are logged. It's just part of the society we live in, and has become somewhat universal. Often you can hear how police request past chat message logs from providers. Some, like Yahoo, have just given up.

PM = The two parties chatting, the forum host, the server log, and anyone who has legal authority to subpoena the server log! (as well as the horny IT tech who happens to be chowing down on pizza while getting all hot spying on all the PM's that night!)

It's the internet! (Think, Wild Wild West)

ehpc 25 Nov 2007, 16:13

I think the private messaging system was disabled after the 'tutorial' was written.

another guest 25 Nov 2007, 12:06

The 'private' message facility has not been withdrawn from lenschat. Go read the tutorial.

guest 25 Nov 2007, 07:05

agree with last post, lenschat used to be ok, but now they have disabled the private talk, most of the users are chatting elsewhere, ie messenger.

And lot believed that in lens chat when you posted private, your messages were being read by the moderators if they so wished.

formerly known as newglasses 18 Nov 2007, 06:36

wurm, i think this has come up here serveral times, but i still think it would be worth it opening up a chat which works. although lenschat does work, it is pretty lame and it would certainly be fun to do the chatting here.... don't know though if chats of this kind cost you anything wurm. anyway, it was just a thought. you're doing a great job! thank you.

Wurm 11 Nov 2007, 11:58

Could be a number of things. If you describe in detail what happens after you click submit, that might help (i.e. blank page, error message, forwards to thread but you don't see your post, or whatever).

Ivan 11 Nov 2007, 04:33

- -5.00,try clearing the cache on your browser (temporary internet files)nb,this may clear down any saved passwords or cookies if you clear the lot, so be carefull to note sign on details for site's first.That may solve it,if not-anyone else know?

-5.00 who luvs gwgs 10 Nov 2007, 23:04

Have had great difficulty posting to ES on my computer just cannot get the page to post up can anyone help it used to be fine and seems to work on other computers

Wurm 04 Nov 2007, 16:45

Thanks for the kind words, LG. It has certainly been an interesting journey so far.

I'll keep your suggestion in mind. I seem to recall we had a general discussion on this and there was a split between "we need a separate video thread" and "what do we need a separate thread for, everyone knows the video site domains anyway".

LikeGlass 04 Nov 2007, 13:15

Well,Wurm, ever thing back in the 90's that this site would still be going strong in 2007? (!) Crazy but cool!

Anyway, only feedback is something you have heard before, I think we need a YouTube / Videos thread as it has become so prevalent in today's culture. Much like the "lots of links" took the load off of "Seen on the web", a videos thread would help to define things.

Keep up the good work!

pete 22 Oct 2007, 19:49

Thanks for the help, Wurm. Seems I erred and included 6 links rather than the limit of 3 for 'Seen on the Web'postings.

New thread suggestion: 'Read on the Web' ??

Wurm 22 Oct 2007, 17:50

Hi pete,

You might give it another try, I've removed some old anti-spam keyword blocks that may not be needed any longer.

pete 22 Oct 2007, 11:43

Hey Wurm. I've been trying to post to 'Seen on the web' and it won't take my submission.

Anon 18 Oct 2007, 22:20

There was an interestin blind-sim story about a guy was a lawyer and pretended on weekends to be blind - very twisted little plot and the gf ended up being obsessed to?

Anyone read this / have a link?

It was good writing.

Slit 01 Oct 2007, 21:07

Thanks wurm.

I read a story about the ex-boy friend visiting a girl who has gotten glasses while the boy is away from town and when the boy enters home, she gives a warm welcome without glasses and she says something like: (i cant remember the exact phrase but it meant something like below)

"hold on for a moment, i want these to see you..." and puts on her glasses...

This scene is a fantacy for me...someday i return home after sometime and my girl wearing glasses.

Apparently story is missin now, if anyone can remember what the name of it please?

Wurm 01 Oct 2007, 11:43

Hi Slit,

You can read old posts to each thread by scrolling to the bottom and clicking "Read All Posts". So, yes, anyone can create an archive of the current message system (nearly six years worth now) by saving those files.

specs4ever 01 Oct 2007, 10:09

I think that was one of Puffin's. I do remember the story, and it was quite good.

friday 01 Oct 2007, 09:19

Well first of all and foremost i would like to thank you for a reply its appreciated i can possibly explain the story a little from what i remember it was about a girl who was put in jail and given an alternative punishment of becomeing extremely blind thats all i remember I hope that this helps if not its quite alright its just that that was my favorite story of yours im a big fan of your stories by the way and again thank you very much

specs4ever 01 Oct 2007, 08:21

I do not remember writing a story called Crime and Punishment. None of my stories have been deleted, either from my old site, which hasn't been updated since Bobby has so kindly been posting them for me on his website, or from Bobby's site. I suspect this story might have been on the old eyescene before Wurm decided that fiction was using up too much bandwidth

friday 01 Oct 2007, 06:53

I dont know if Specs4ever looks at this site but if he does i have a simple request. I really enjoyed 1 of your stories a while back thats now been deleted off your site i can not find this story anywhere. I believe it was crime and punishment and havent seen it for about a year now i was wondering if you still had it if you might be as so kind as to send it to me.

My email is as follows.

Slit 30 Sep 2007, 21:03

After the long month of exams, i am relaxin.

I downloaded all the Eyescene Back up archive files from Bobbys web site and i must tell you, it is a "TREASURE".

It was awesome to go through all the archived threads, from which we can study the growth of this forum and what the opinions and vision history of so many different people.

I must suggest that we should archive the current eyescene also, but i dont know how to do it. is it simply saving the web page?

Further, something i enjoyed a lot was the so many "GWG and eyewear related fiction Stories" on those forums.

Danny 28 Sep 2007, 08:44

OK, i'm no good as a web builder!

Danny 28 Sep 2007, 08:43

I suppose i should have given the address:

Danny 28 Sep 2007, 08:42


I've tried to log onto the site today, but it looks like its too popular!

So i've spent 10 minutes making a less than perfect alternative (cost 0.00) which people might like to use until is working again, sorry about the adverts!

I know its not as good as Lenschat, but it might keep people chatting!

Andrew 26 Sep 2007, 11:14

At least I was able to comfort some Man U fans today that there would be no repetition of last year... and no chance for revenge either, so I'll remind you what happened (and no, Mr. "I was there" - that was NOT a second-string team you put out)

Smudgeur 25 Sep 2007, 14:12

an imposter!

DAMN- Blackpool have just scored!

Andrew 25 Sep 2007, 13:17


So who is this other Smudgeur?

Smudgeur 25 Sep 2007, 12:53

No it wasn't - but I just turned on when he said "Andrew in Chatham" - which I presume was you!

Andrew 25 Sep 2007, 12:28


Was that your e-mail on BBC Essex about JCR which followed mine?

(Sorry this is not on topic)

Bobby September update 03 Sep 2007, 17:10

uh, sorry for the typo in my nick in the previous post:

The Septemeber update is bringing you 2 new stories by Specs4ever, 1 new story by Susan and a morph by Andy. The Czech readers can enjoy "The Living Doll" in Czech (Panenka jako iv), which was translated by Wieprz. Go to

Sobby September update 03 Sep 2007, 17:08

The Septemeber update is bringing you 2 new stories by Specs4ever, 1 new story by Susan and a morph by Andy. The Czech readers can enjoy "The Living Doll" in Czech (Panenka jako iv), which was translated by Wieprz.

Bobby (story site update) 10 Aug 2007, 04:00

sorry for the typo:

Bobby (story site update) 10 Aug 2007, 03:44

Hi all,

First I must apologize for my updating the website so late (it is 10th aug here already!)

Second, I have good news:

There are 10 new stories and 1 new morph (by Andy)! I really wonder how fruitful this summer is! So, come and enjoy.

Wurm 26 Jul 2007, 11:23

I haven't worked up a hits/thread system yet, but I can provide a quick stat for those who are interested in the overall ratio of views to posts.

For each post this on the BBS, there are about 250 thread views.

Tod 19 Jul 2007, 17:01

She is sooooooooo cute in her glasses

TC 19 Jul 2007, 14:48

Good news, I was able to get the LensChat and BracesChat sites restored and back up and running. Enjoy!

TC 19 Jul 2007, 11:41

Lenschat is temporarily down, it's not at all related to the EyeScene changes. First the database was completely corrupted, then the file system fell apart... we are actively working on it.


Guest 19 Jul 2007, 06:59

Is it just me, but since the extra link has been added, (Google) i have been unable to get into lenschat. Have spoken to two other friends who are experiencing the same problems. May just be the site is down, but thought i would mention it. Thanks

 19 Jul 2007, 02:17

Wurm, you're fast. Thank you.

Wurm 18 Jul 2007, 13:14

I've added a Google form to the front page. The current Google index appears to be partial, but it is picking up about 80% of the site.

Google's index also won't be particularly current for every page, but should be good for digging through old posts.

Wurm 18 Jul 2007, 12:28

Now that I have some extra bandwidth to burn (my web host, Laughing Squid, has steadily raised the limits) I should be able to implement search.

At the very least, I will put a box on the front page that links to the Google search parameter. That's what I've been using, too.

Thanks very much for the feedback!

Glowworm 18 Jul 2007, 09:40

Wurm: Something like "thread views since January 1" would be great !

 18 Jul 2007, 03:42

you can also google your search term with the added command: site:

for example:

Jacky site:

Julian 18 Jul 2007, 03:22

Doesn't every browser include a search feature anyway? Firefox certainly does.

Clare 18 Jul 2007, 01:57

Otto & Wurm - I think a search feature would be brilliant

-4+6-7+12-15+20-23 18 Jul 2007, 01:30

I think we will all be surprised if this board had stats. I believe the number of times each thread was read, would be much higher than the times it has been replied to (perhaps even 100 times more).

I for once, have been to Eyescene since the start (the previous board), but found its current lack of security inhibiting, anyone can pose as someone else, etc.

I rarely post these days.

OttO 17 Jul 2007, 17:28

Wurm: I don't see that it's been mentioned, but one feature EyeScene lacks, which is found on the sample board below is a SEARCH feature. While not fool proof , it sure would be nice to have. Some might find that more useful than the stats.

Wurm 17 Jul 2007, 16:54

Thanks for the example, Glowworm. I agree that some click stats would be nice to have. They probably would work well on the recent threads page, as you suggest. The thread index is another option (I've always found that view a little bland anyway). I may look into using a simple table so all the info will be readable.

Of course, I haven't been logging this all along, so it would have to be "thread views since January 1" or a daily average or something.

Glowworm 16 Jul 2007, 16:19

Wurm, look

In the "Views" column you can see for each thread how often it has been clicked. At Eye Scene, the "Thread Index" page seems appropriate for numbers like this, perhaps the "Threads by Most Recent Post" page (my favourite ES "entry point") too.

Whether it is possible to create something like views per day - I don't know. But even "ongoing" views statistics for the threads would be quite interesting imho.

Wurm 16 Jul 2007, 13:43


Could you link to a board that shows this stat? I think I have an idea of what you mean (page views/day/thread), but I'd like to see an example of how to present it.

Glowworm 16 Jul 2007, 13:05

Wurm: Thanks for the link, but what I meant was statistics about how often a thread has been clicked by someone who wants to read or post. Counting entries ... well that's a thing I can do myself ... ;-)

Wurm 16 Jul 2007, 12:54

We've talked a lot about having user registration and user-generated topics. The BBS actually used a standard board software for a couple of years. Opinions vary, but I don't find the overall atmosphere to be that much different now.

I like the suggestions for new stats. Keep those coming.

Both stats requests seemed geared toward identifying threads with a lot of recent traffic, so I worked up a "Hot Threads" index:

Bill Clinton 15 Jul 2007, 01:49

not to mention the ability to edit posts. but maybe some here think that it will compromise our relative (and welcome) obscurity? I'm not sure about that one.

Bill clinton 15 Jul 2007, 00:31

Eyescene could much benefit from users opening their own threads to carry out off-topic conversations. Also, having reliable monikers and security will increase participation IMO.

Glowworm 14 Jul 2007, 04:09

Considering the amount of postings at Eye Scene, I think that the current architecture is sufficient. If we had hundreds of entries a day, I'd agree to the suggestion about setting up something like runboard or proboard software. But as we haven't, I think this isn't necessary.

There's just one thing I miss: I'd like to see statistics about how many hits get the threads each day. THIS is an advantage of board software like proboard.

glassesforeveryone 13 Jul 2007, 09:08

The beauty of this forum is that I can read on my phone when travelling etc, these other forums are a nightmare using a phone, unless you know better?

 13 Jul 2007, 08:45

@another guest

i wholeheatedly agree with your suggestion

hopefully other posters here thinks likewise

(another) guest 13 Jul 2007, 07:01

here's a link:

(another) guest 12 Jul 2007, 23:37

this forum could have been much more lively if threads could be posted and there was some sort of user verification (e.g. IP addresses). important threads could be "sticky"-ed and it would enable conversattions to develop.

with such a growing community (it is a LOT bigger than ten years ago), there is a need for more.

anyone has the stamina/resources to do it?

All4Eyes 11 Jul 2007, 16:52

Bobby: Did you get my email?

I ALWAYS make passes at guys who wear glasses, Marie

Bobby (updated) 08 Jul 2007, 09:19

The July update is here.

2 stories by S4E, 1 new story by Tony, 1 new morph by Andy. Sorry I did not manage to add more this time. Link:

lazysiow 20 Jun 2007, 01:57

I've got an idea. Has anyone heard of ? I usually stay clear of this myspace crap but it's got video chat integrated and is fairly easy to use. I signed up for it to talk to a friend but I noticed that we could probably make a chatroom there and password protect with something that only we'd know.

On one hand it would be better than Lenschat. We could see each other's glasses for one lol and we'd be able to skip a lot of the usual "what's your RX?" and "do you have glasses pics?" on Lenschat. On the other hand though, maybe for some the anonymity is better and the mental pictures people have built up of each other would be shattered.

It's worth considering anyway, anyone up for a trial?

Carrie J. 12 Jun 2007, 16:14

Thanks, I don't know if it's any good or not, but I'm workin' on it :)

Bobby 12 Jun 2007, 13:19

All right, send it when it is ready, I will be happy to read it, and if it is good I will put it onto the website.

Carrie J. 12 Jun 2007, 11:51

Thanks for the update on your site Bobby, I'm a regular reader. I am even in the process of writing a story of my own. It's about a girl who accidently wishes to wear glasses, and gets it granted. I'll be a while finishing it, maybe you can have a look at it when its done, maybe it will work on your site.

Bobby 05 Jun 2007, 18:55

Hi, I have just updated my webside with GWG stories. There are 3 new stories by Specs4ever, 6 new stories by Doreen, 1 new story by Tony Bell and 2 new morphs by Andy. Enjoy all of them. Bobby

Cactus Jack 13 May 2007, 15:46


Would you please contact me at


Julian 12 May 2007, 08:35

Then again, Mark, the videos that you and I want to see would be posted under 'Guys in glasses' ...

Mark One 11 May 2007, 23:36

I question the need for a separate topic also. The existing Seen on the Web topic seems more than adequate. Agree that videos are easily identifiable from the URL. If not a video site such as youtube or vimeo then file types like .mov or .avi.

specs4ever 11 May 2007, 18:25

Most of the video's I have clicked on have been a waste of time. Leave them in the sectons they are being posted to, and those that want to watch them can do so.(however the one about the very nearsighted girl selling flip flops was a great video)

Wurm 11 May 2007, 18:03

Several people have asked for "Videos" thread. I'm a little hesitant, since that means all videos would be likely to be posted there. So, for instance, you wouldn't find videos of actresses in "Actresses". Also, isn't it pretty easy to spot most video links? Seems like the vast majority are YouTube. I'm curious to get feedback.

hooked 11 May 2007, 04:23

I faced the same problem.

Characters as lesser than/greater than won't be accepted. I even can't write them in this post without the post being rejected.

chessfan 11 May 2007, 04:14

I tried to submit some links to the "Lots of links" page, but it didn't work.

What could the reason be?

All4Eyes to JC 10 May 2007, 15:12

Hi great to hear from someone with the same rx (though I'm overdue for an eye exam and am hoping to get one soon, having a bit of trouble with long distances with my current glasses (which also have a temple piece missing 8-( ), so I may not be a minus four that much longer (or so I hope!) ). It's also nice to hear that I make you smile (hearing that makes me smile! 8-) ). Thanks for the compliments, I must admit it is relatively easy to be honest about such things with the sense of anonymity the Internet provides. I don't talk about this stuff with anyone I know in real life, though I am considering giving it a try. I sometimes think how sad it is that so many of us feel more comfortable sharing the deepest, most personal parts of ourselves with total strangers this way than we do with our near and dear ones, the ones who should know us best. I'm hoping that one day OO will become more widely recognized by the general public and that we will all be able to "come out" and openly enjoy our hobby/obssession/fetish/fascination.

Specs4ever fan 07 May 2007, 05:07

Hi Specs4ever

I appreciate all that you say. I was more thinking along the lines of a strong glasses wearer who likes to go "bareeyed" (as Susanne DK might say), either for her own gratification or for that of a prospective or actual partner. I remember a comment on eyescene many many years ago, from an English lady called Sarah (I think) who although around -18, would take her glasses off at parties to please her boyfriend. She actually enjoyed experiencing her blurry world from time to time.

I suppose what I hope for is an extended version of that post which you turn into a wonderful story.

Anyway, rest assured, whatever you choose to write, I will be greatful to read

Kind regards

Specs4ever fan

Specs4ever 06 May 2007, 19:42

Hey Specs4ever Fan I appreciate your comments. However, while I do not like to write stories about people taking someones glasses, leaving them helpless, I have written a number of stories where the glasses are broken, and the lady has to cope without correction. Some of the stories that come to mind are: The Blur of The West; Annie Bagley, After The Outing, Blindly Shanghaied, Pinup Girls, The Poker Player, The Survivor, and The Kidnapping. And there is also Too Proud To See about a young lady who badly needes glasses, but refuses to accept charity.

And, there will be others along the same lines in the future. But, I do draw the line at a story where someone is controling a person who needs strong glasses, even though Shanghaied is sort of like that.

JC 05 May 2007, 16:28

All4Eyes -

From a fellow minus four myope I wanted to say how much I enjoy reading your stories and appreciate the spirit and enthusiasm you bring to this site. Every time I read one of your posts it makes me smile just a little bit (and sometimes more then a little!) I just reread your "My History as an Optic Obsessive" and am a little envious that you can be so comfortable sharing your own personal story like that. Marie, please keep up the great work -- you have a beautiful spirit.

Specs4ever fan 05 May 2007, 06:26

Thank you Specs4ever.

As always, I have enjoyed your recent stories. You have an admirer of your work from the other side of the world. I will be happy to keep reading as long as you feel inclined to continue writing

Your work is greatly appreciated from afar

Specs4ever fan.

PS I know it is not your normal style, but if you ever allow yourself to write a doing without/missing/loosing glasses story, it would be appreciated by me tenfold!

Bobby 04 May 2007, 17:40

After some delay I managed to update the glasses stories website. There are 2 new stories by Specs4ever, 1 new story by Julian ans 1 new story by All4Eyes. Come and enjoy reading.

 30 Apr 2007, 14:06

She was phishing for email address's?

She is history.

dick 30 Apr 2007, 11:21

Who is this robyn123 person on lenschat that keeps on telling everyone to add her the first second?

Peter G  24 Apr 2007, 06:01

Hi, I'm not sure this is the correct thread, but hope the question will be picked up.

I started collecting old spectacles a while ago, and now want to catalogue them. I want to include the lens prescriptions, and have bought an old Zeiss ocular refractometer SBM Model 21 03 30(German term: Scheitelbrechwertmesser!) on E-Bay. All the knobs and wheels seem to be turning OK. However, I feel I need some kind of an operating manual to use it properly. Does anybody have any ideas?


Peter G

cath35 24 Apr 2007, 05:09

Thank you for your welcome Nickweymouth

Regards Cath35

nickweymouth 24 Apr 2007, 04:52

welcome cath may you find lots of frinds here we are a freindly bunch regards Nick

cath35 24 Apr 2007, 04:47

I am new to this I wear pretty strong glasses I have brown eyes and blonde hair. I am in Brisbane and looking to make good friends and see what happens from there

Cactus Jack 04 Apr 2007, 17:49


The last I got was dated March 14.


All4Eyes for S4E & CJ 04 Apr 2007, 17:31

S4E: Love your new story "The See Clearly Method"! My thoughts exactly on ol' Dr. Bates, and while you're taking care of him, could you do something about that Russian guy who invented refractive surgery, too? 8-)

CJ: Did you get my last email? My Yahoo box has been giving me fits again and people are telling me my letters didn't get sent.

Bobby - new stories by S4E 01 Apr 2007, 04:38

The April update of the glasses stories page has been done. Go to , read and enjoy.

Puffin 23 Mar 2007, 05:17

It might have been because I was entering a response (admittedly not a very good one) at the same time and things got tangled up (?)

Wurm 22 Mar 2007, 22:42

Cactus Jack,

Let's treat it as a onetime problem. Post length should not have been a problem. This could have just been a server hiccup.

Problem noted, though. If I see a pattern I will look into it further.

Thanks for your contributions.

Cactus Jack 22 Mar 2007, 21:40


Unfortunately, I tend to write long explanations. Is there any way to put a word counter on the composition page and some sort of an error message function to say why a post was rejected?

Usually the "Eyescene" fucntion works right, but this evening it was particularly frustrating.

Also, thanks for a great site


Cactus Jack 22 Mar 2007, 21:25


If you get a chance, please check my series of posts on the "Post your Prescription" thread. I had posts as shour as 10 words rejected for no apparent reason. The symptoms were as if I had misspelled "Eyescene".

Any suggestions?


All4Eyes 14 Mar 2007, 20:58

S4E: Thanks! I like your new stories too!

specs4ever 13 Mar 2007, 17:06

Hey All4eyes, I just read your new story - It's All Brooke's Fault. It is a really good story.

Jon-1 13 Mar 2007, 14:18

If this site is soo...(or is that sue?) awful, then why do you visit it, ruse??

rumbling ruse 12 Mar 2007, 21:21

wut u done proovz how bad this site sux

rumbling ruse 12 Mar 2007, 21:21

u took my comment off its as good as ur stinking comment, put it back or ill soo u

Bobby - new stories 12 Mar 2007, 19:02

Hi all readers, I have just uploaded 2 new stories by Specs4ever, 6 new stories by Doreen, and 1 new stories by All4eyes. Come to and enjoy them as much as I did. Oh ... sorry for the delay, I was very busy at work.

Andrew 08 Mar 2007, 11:17

Not sure where this goes, but:

Congratulations to Emily on her marriage today; best wishes for a long and happy future together.

All4Eyes 14 Feb 2007, 12:58

Bobby: I just resent that in Wordpad. Hope it opens.

Everyone: Happy Valentines Day! May you all spend this evening snuggled up to the spexy sweetheart of your dreams!

Bobby for All4Eyes !!! 13 Feb 2007, 17:46

All4Eyes, the story you sent me is in an uknown format. My MS Word cannot read it. None of the filters I have can convert the text into a reasonable and readable text. Mail it in a different format, please. Preferably MS Word. RTF format of plain text would be good, too. Bobby

New stories 03 Feb 2007, 10:32

Hi all, There are 2 new stories at by Specs4ever. Enjoy reading, they are very good (as always). Bobby

Tod 24 Jan 2007, 20:47

it also affects Camino, I just downloaded this browser today too. I am glad it was this one I was running and not the others as i would have lost all the bookmarks. I mostly run IE or Opera.

Wurm 24 Jan 2007, 10:32

Noted. Thanks for the info.

I will delete that link, but it might be a day or two. All the warnings from other users on that thread should suffice for now.

myofan 24 Jan 2007, 08:46

The last post from "Guest" on the XXX Links thread will, if you click on it, infect IE users with the Exploit.Win32.MS05-002gen VIRUS. Wurm, please delete that post! BTW, to remove the virus, go to Tools/Internet Options/Internet files/Delete Files and click "Delete all offline content". This is a particularly annoying virus as it spits out hundreds of infected files!

All4Eyes to Tortoise 14 Jan 2007, 17:00

Didn't know where to put this, but I've been trying to email you for awhile and have gotten no response. Are my emails not getting through? This has been a problem with my mailbox.

 08 Jan 2007, 09:12

Dick 07 Jan 2007, 08:26

A survey about glasses fetish.

2 new stories by S4E 01 Jan 2007, 08:11

There are 2 new stories by S4E at

"Betwixt and Between" and "Throught my Sister's Eyes" as the first update of the new year 2007. Enjoy reading.

 31 Dec 2006, 18:14

Happy New Year from Bobby 31 Dec 2006, 14:58

Happy New Year 2007!

Stastny Novy Rok 2007!

Szczensliwego Nowego Roku 2007!

Bachtalo Nevo Bers 2007!

from Bobby

Bobby 29 Dec 2006, 21:09

I made an irregular update of my story website. There are some new MIG stories by Doreen and a new version of Julian's Measure For Measure.

Bhelle klutz 19 Dec 2006, 09:42

Bhelle 19 Dec 2006, 09:41

I guess if you're a Second-Lifer you'll know what I mean. But if you don't, check us out at .

Bhelle 19 Dec 2006, 02:36

This is my first time on Eyescene and I haven't even been much of a lurker. I heard about you a couple of weeks ago from a friend on Second Life and I've been fascinated ever since.

I Just wanted to tell everybody who goes to Second Life that we've formed a group called Optic Obsessives. Right now we have six members (including some people from here) and I've met several potential members who haven't yet joined. I'd love to hear from any of you who are on SL. Just IM me (Bhelle Alacrity is my avatar name)

newglasses 13 Dec 2006, 00:48


i'll check it out, but you're right, i'd probably prefer a female hyperope. thanks for the hint thouth.



Julian 12 Dec 2006, 17:46

newglasses: actually there's a hyperopic guy in 'The Taming of the Shrew', a story of mine that Bobby has just uploaded. But maybe you wanted a female hyperope?

2 new stories 12 Dec 2006, 12:38

Hi all, there are the 2 new stories. Marnethias and The Taming of the Shrew the latter of which is a newest part of the Will Shakespeare series written by Julian (love and kisses) Thank you, Jules, for telling me.

RBK 12 Dec 2006, 11:38

There are a few pres. and hyp. stories in the MIG section..... I would love to read a story about a dead sexy man who has to patch his eye. I think only kids patch their eys tho? Ambolyia????? I will look it up now

newglasses 12 Dec 2006, 08:21

just an idea or even a request: i have noticed that almost evey story posted on bobby's site is about myopia. unfortunately i'm not very gifted with writing's craft, or i would most certainly try to write a story about hyperopia. if anyone out there feels like writing something different - then please go ahead and write yourself dry. i only know of one hyperopic story over which i came in the internet.

all the best!

Bobby to Julian 12 Dec 2006, 07:35

Oh, yes they came, I forgot to upload them as I was in a hurry and really busy. Are they "Marthenias" and "Taming"? I will add them tonight. OK?

Julian to Bobby 11 Dec 2006, 18:19

I sent you two stories the other week; didn't they get there?

Bobby - December stories 11 Dec 2006, 13:07

Sorry sorry, I made a kind of mistake, but now it is all right. Go to and enjoy the new stories.

Bobby 11 Dec 2006, 09:07

OMG, wait for 3 hours, pls. I will repair that a.s.a. I finish the evening lesson.

Julian to Bobby 11 Dec 2006, 00:47

Funny thing Bobby, I'm still not seeing the update on your site. There's been a delay before, but not usually as long as this. Never mind, patience is a virtue...

New stories at Bobby's site 10 Dec 2006, 09:31

Hi all, there are new stories at my website http://bobbygoc/

Go, see, read, and enjoy.


Tod 08 Dec 2006, 07:44

Yes, I just downloaded it. Thank you very much, Adalle. Good work!

Adalle 07 Dec 2006, 23:04

Tod, you click "Free" under the table where it says "Select your download".

Then you wait for about a minute so that you get reserved a download ticket and some download mirrors will be shown to you. You enter the text that will be shown to you in the box and you click "download from".

Don't use a download manager!

Tod 07 Dec 2006, 18:18

Adalle, thank you for replying to my post of Nov. 11.

But I am not sure how to open the download site you posted. ??

Adalle 07 Dec 2006, 10:57

Tod, about your 11 November post concerning the coca cola graduation commercial, I found it in my hard drive.

You can find it in the following link:

ME 01 Dec 2006, 12:17

Sorry, forgot this part; it IS all thanks to Eyescene. THANK YOU Eyescene.

ME 01 Dec 2006, 12:11

Chris R -

YOU'RE absolutely wonderful, everything you said you were (and more) and I'm madly in love with you.

me xoxoxoxoxxo

Puffin 27 Nov 2006, 05:33

Yeah sorry I've been too busy to attend to this. I think I'm going to have to give up on it again for a while. :-(

Julian 27 Nov 2006, 04:24

Same here.

Tim 26 Nov 2006, 23:37

Puffin - I still can't get on to your site (error 404 - not found). What has happened to it?

Hey oooooh! 24 Nov 2006, 12:20

this has nothing to do with this site but I thought is was funny.

How can "Kramer" be a racist if he and Don King have the same hair?

and speaking of Ann Coulter. If she went to bed at night with a man instead of a manuscript then she would have something else to put into her mouth instead of her foot.

Tod 23 Nov 2006, 17:56

Wishing everyone at eyescene a happy Thanksgiving 8-)

Puffin 22 Nov 2006, 17:50

Lucky you!

cut-in uk 22 Nov 2006, 13:58

So, Chris R, in the same way that 'gentlemen prefer blondes', OO's prefer gwg's. It's nice to see two people clearly so well-suited.

Chris R 22 Nov 2006, 11:46

In March or April this year a woman posted here for a while, on the psychology thread I think. I wrote back to her and a short while later we embarked on a very intense affair which is still going on. She's absolutely wonderful, everything she said she was (and more) and I'm madly in love with her. She's the woman whom I despaired of ever meeting, she's a gwg who knows about my OO thing and isn't put off by it and it's all thanks to Eyescene. So thank you Eyescene.

Willy2 17 Nov 2006, 14:46

Oooops. Very indiscreet. Sorry.

Phil 17 Nov 2006, 09:25

Willy, She hasn't texted yet! She's in London on Monday so I'm not holding out hope. There's a bit of "history" here!

Willy 16 Nov 2006, 16:21

Did Phil and Katy meet? We'r all on tenterhooks......

test 15 Nov 2006, 16:06


magar 15 Nov 2006, 15:58

Does anyonr know anything about silicone hydrogel contact lenses?

Phil 14 Nov 2006, 04:44

Katy, so hope you come on Monday. I'll give you my number so you can drop me a text if you want to meet up. Lunchtime would be nice if you're scared of meeting in the dark! 07783062869.

FAO Julian 12 Nov 2006, 07:40



Tod 11 Nov 2006, 09:58

Does anyone know where to find the MPEG of that Coca-Cola commercial where one girl pulls the other girl's glasses off an tosses them to the floor at their graduation party? I think its titled 'Best Friends'. If someone has it, please put it on YouTube. That would be great.

Andrew 10 Nov 2006, 11:10

Sorry folks, but I'm sending in my apologies for absence, aa I have another meeting that night.

Phil 10 Nov 2006, 01:20

Katy, if we fix something I just know that Clare won't stay away! So you'll be safe! Actually you'd be safe anyway: if only you knew how shy and boring I am!! If you agree I'll get some new glasses for the occasion (and wear them!!): I dropped mine on the drive and they didn't enjoy it.

Katy 09 Nov 2006, 15:21

I am coming, but there needs to be more than two of us! :-)

Phil 09 Nov 2006, 01:02

Katy, are yiou still coming up to London? Why didn't anyone else want to meet up? Where's Clare?

Yoyo 07 Nov 2006, 16:02

Never mind . . . got it working.

Yoyo 07 Nov 2006, 16:01

I'm having trouble posting anything in the "Actress" thread. Only a one-word post would work . . . anything longer seems to fail. Anyone else having this problem?

Stories updated 05 Nov 2006, 17:16

teh URL is

Bobby 05 Nov 2006, 17:13

I have just updated my website, come and find two new stories by Specs4ever and one story by Jamie (in the MIG section)

Simon 29 Oct 2006, 03:27

Why does so much "activity" happen in the UK? You damn lucky Brits :-) Anybody up for a gathering on the other side of the Atlantic? How's New York City or the San Francisco Bay Area? It will be fun. Email me at

Phil 27 Oct 2006, 04:25

I'd come but that would probably scare you off!!

Katy 26 Oct 2006, 02:45

How about an Eyescene meet-up, in London, after work on Mon 20th Nov? I hardly ever go to London but will be there for a couple of days. I think it is guaranteed to be interesting.. :-)

Bobby 25 Oct 2006, 16:26

Settled. Give it a try.

Cactus Jack 25 Oct 2006, 15:55


Please check the link on The Myopia Fairy II.


Bobby 25 Oct 2006, 15:28

I have moved the story and added Eddy's texts

specs4ever 20 Oct 2006, 14:54

I think I would feel better about that Bobby, if you don't mind.

Bobby 20 Oct 2006, 13:00

S4, if you want, I will move it to the Other Authors section when I will be making the upload of Eddie's texts.

Bobby 20 Oct 2006, 13:00

S4, if you want, I will move it to the Other Authors section when I will be making the upload of Eddie's texts.

Julian 19 Oct 2006, 18:37

S4E (and A4E): It was a great story in its original form and your joint effort on Part II has enhanced it. Congratulations, both!

Love and kisses, Jules.

specs4ever 19 Oct 2006, 15:28

OOPS, I see Bobby has posted the story "The Myopia Fairy Part 2" in my section. It really should have gone in the other authors writings. While I will admit to writing a great deal of the story, it was taken from All4eyes original tale, and I sent the sequel off to her to be edited, and changed wherever she felt it was necessary. So, please give credit to All4eyes for writing such a great story in the first place thta I couldn't leave it alone.

 18 Oct 2006, 18:01


Bobby's story site was updated 18 Oct 2006, 08:22

Hi all, I have managed to update my glasses story website. Come and enjoy many new fictions. The Eddie's texts will be uploaded in a few days.


? 17 Oct 2006, 19:54


Therouteur 17 Oct 2006, 19:18

I really don't know where to put this one so here it is.

Check out this one about the criminal who was nicknamed "eyes" after someone gave him a present of a $20,000 diamond studded pair of glasses.,20867,20587971-5006785,00.html

Andrew 17 Oct 2006, 13:17

For Puffin:

There was a young man from the Fens,

Who loved running round with the hens.

He struggled to see,

That birds they must be

Without his biconcave lens.

Glasses poetry, now there's a thought...

My apologies to true poetry lovers for the above!

still 17 Oct 2006, 11:39


still 17 Oct 2006, 11:38

Some may have though that you were very trying...8-D

Puffin 17 Oct 2006, 05:15

Oh well I tried!

? 16 Oct 2006, 22:23


Puffin 16 Oct 2006, 18:48

I'm having a go at glasses poetry, eg:

I think of your poor sight

it must be such a blight

but it sets my mind alight

your glasses fill my night

with dreams of reflected light

which give me such delight.

(sorry, the stories are taking far longer than I hoped!)

Bob W 12 Oct 2006, 13:47


I need to get my nose out of other people's personal business. Clare gets more than enough 'advice' as it is. Also, what are my motives? My own ideas of what I want her to look like or do?

Best regards,

Bob W.

Patti 12 Oct 2006, 12:28

Bob W

Why would you want to delete it?

Bob W 12 Oct 2006, 12:07


If you see this, feel free to delete my post to Clare in 'vision'. I wish there was a way to delete one's own post, but realize that's too complex. I need to think things thru better.


Bob W

Bobby 06 Oct 2006, 12:11

Happy birthday, my old buddy!

Puffin 06 Oct 2006, 04:13

Thanks!!! :-)

All4Eyes 05 Oct 2006, 15:39

Happy birthday Puffin!

TT 05 Oct 2006, 09:32

Boby. Just back from a trip. I'll do it tomorrow.

Bobby 04 Oct 2006, 15:17

TT: Send it to me.

I wil place it on my website so that everybody could read it.

 03 Oct 2006, 18:12

Wurm 03 Oct 2006, 12:02

hooked: My guess is that somewhere in those links is the name of a prescription drug, or a string that happens to match the name of a spam domain, or something else like that. You could try breaking your link list in half, see which half posts, then repeat the process with the half that doesn't post.

I may remove some of those filters if other techniques are successful.

hooked 02 Oct 2006, 23:55


These are links from knuddels I posted often here. Is this spam filter on checking links new?

I didn't forget the name of the website.

-5.00 who luvs gwgs 02 Oct 2006, 22:33

I 101% agree it would be lovely to have Eddys posts all on one thread they were all great I am sure he is somewhere where every girl is seriously myopic but with perfect sight with glasses and all of course absolutely gorgeous

TT 02 Oct 2006, 16:52

It's 13,000 words, 110K. Not small.

Bobby 02 Oct 2006, 15:00

How big is the file with Eddy's posts and in what format is it?

Wurm 02 Oct 2006, 11:25

hooked: there is probably something in the links you were trying to post that was blocked by the spam filters, maybe a known spam domain or something. The usual flickr, webshots, etc should get through fine (don't forget to answer the question at the bottom too...)

TT: most of Eddy's posts should be on here already, somewhere, or available in the archives that Bobby hosts. Maybe one of the story sites would host the file? If not, I might be persuaded to put it up. I certainly miss Eddy's wit.

hooked 02 Oct 2006, 05:57

I can post here but not in LostofLinks or SeenontehWeb.

What make I wrong?

Julian 02 Oct 2006, 02:30

TT: why not open a topic for the purpose (or get Wurm to do it)?

Micha 02 Oct 2006, 01:48


TT 02 Oct 2006, 01:22

After a lot of work I have finally succeeded, I think, In collecting all of the ES postings of the late great Eddy. My question is, where can I post them so everyone can enjoy them?

hooked 02 Oct 2006, 00:06


Maverick 02 Oct 2006, 00:04

Thanks wurm, simple and (hopefully) effective

specs4ever 01 Oct 2006, 18:09

Hey, if the solution is this simple, it is wonderful

Filthy McNasty 01 Oct 2006, 17:44

This rocks.

Wurm 01 Oct 2006, 13:57

So far, so good. I think it will help, although I do have more ideas for when it becomes a problem again. Thanks for the feedback.

still 01 Oct 2006, 13:12

I like it too. It caught me the first time, so it works.

Ardief 01 Oct 2006, 09:31

You can also count me as one thanking you. Those robot posts were annoying at best.

Cactus Jack 01 Oct 2006, 09:04


Thanks for adding the question. It seems like an elegant solution to a very annoying problem. The robot posts had made some threads almost worthless. Answering the question should not be a problem for serious contributors.


Wurm 01 Oct 2006, 03:10

As a screening mechanism to block out more of the annoying robot posts, I'm now asking a simple question when you post.

All4Eyes 30 Sep 2006, 15:14

S4E: I got your email and replied. I hope it gets to you as I've been having problems with this email box.

Tortoise: I've been trying to email you, but it seems my messages aren't getting through. Do I need to resend?

Bobby 24 Sep 2006, 11:13

Wurm and others: Although I archived the 1st and the 2nd Eye Scene, I am NOT archiving this Eye Scene, as my connection is very slow, and the capacity of my PC is limited. Bobby Laurel CZ

Wurm 24 Sep 2006, 06:14

I've set the thread reader to now show the first 50 posts of each thread (it showed 25 before). You can still click through at the bottom to view all posts.

Note that I do weed old posts out of the link-oriented threads occasionally, and those are gone forever -- unless someone has archived them.

specs4ever 21 Sep 2006, 17:41

Hey All4eyes, if you have a minute, e mail me at so that I have your address to send you something.

All4Eyes 16 Sep 2006, 13:38

Thank you, S4E!

specs4ever 14 Sep 2006, 19:25

Nope, didn't spot any obvious errors. I really thought your latest story was darned good, and I quite enjoyed it

All4Eyes 14 Sep 2006, 14:50

I admit my latest "fairy tale" was largely based on "spec"ulation. I am only a moderate myope myself and have never even had a chance to GOC, nor have I ever seen myodiscs in real life. So I'm wondering if I got any details wrong and if someone who knows about this (a natural hi-my or a GOC one) wants to offer some constructive criticizim(spelling?) I'm listening.

Puffin 13 Sep 2006, 16:53

RE the restrictions on postings, can we have logins again so that people who are known not to spam and post up crap on here can do so without restriction?

Puffin 09 Sep 2006, 14:49

That last post sounds oddly familiar in many ways.

-5.00 who luvs gwgs  09 Sep 2006, 13:40

About time this thread had some sensible posts!! I still cannot Quite believe our site I have always liked gwgs and have liked high myopes for as long as I can remember have only managed to date 2 one a girl of about -12.00 who turned up for our one and only date in contact lenses if only she knew! The other was a girl who wisely in my opinion didnt even own contact lenses She was about -15.00 and wore largish plastic frames (it was the 1980s)sadly she did not like me as much as I liked her .I thought I was a little strange finding thick glasses a huge turn on and was fiddling around on the net looking for anything on girls with thick glasses and lo and behold about 2 years ago found ES thank you

Wurm 04 Sep 2006, 04:32

I've set the BBS to accept no more than 3 links per post, with the exception of posts to "Lots of Links".

Cactus Jack 03 Sep 2006, 14:00


If there is some cost to protecting the site from spam and trash, perhaps those of us who enjoy using the site for its intended purpose could help out.


DWV 20 Aug 2006, 20:12

I think it was my Grade 1 teacher; I looked at an old class photo and she was a near-sighted hottie in cat-eyes.

Therouteur 20 Aug 2006, 17:07

They got it all wrong. I've been thinking about this a lot and I'm sure it was my grandmother, not my mother.

 20 Aug 2006, 11:18

Here you are , help science by completing an academic survey on why you find glasses sexy !

Bobby 19 Aug 2006, 11:08


I enjoyed the story too. Concerning the 3 digit numbers, I do not think it is technically possible, however human imagination is endless.

Puffin 17 Aug 2006, 13:52

Corrected with mega-hi-index glasses. :-) Yes I know this is impossible!

Puffin 17 Aug 2006, 13:51

Bobby, regarding the Specs4ever story "how much is too much", some of my current fantasies involve 3 figure myopia (!)

LikeGlass 14 Aug 2006, 13:08

Just received an Email from "Rumor Perkins" which is actually the pen-name of four girls (with glasses) who got together and wrote a book called "Myopic Memories: Girls Who Wear Glasses." I had listed the book on my site ( ) for the last few years and I guess they found me through Google. They wrote to say thanks and hoped I enjoyed the book. (I Did!) Anyway, the distributor link for the book is wrong and I will be changing it when I can. For those who may want a copy, it's available through ( ) It was published in 2004 and is 224 pages (and some pictures.) Cool read for any GWG admirer !

Bobby's story site is updated 03 Aug 2006, 19:14

Sorry, typo, the link is:

(It is 4:17 a.m. here, and I am really tired.)

Bobby's Story site is updated 03 Aug 2006, 19:12

Hi all readers!

My website http://bobbygoc/ hase just been updated. There are 19 (really nineteen!) new stories in the following sections: 2 in S4E's section, 9 in Other Stories, and 8 in MIG section (one of them is written by S4E). See also the "Texts about glasses fetish..." where there is some more about "Going fulltime". Enjoy the reading.

Julian 31 Jul 2006, 01:48

Wurm: I can now open this thread OK in Firefox, but not 'Actresses' for which I am having to switch to IE. This has happened before and usually sorts itself out in time.

Bobby 30 Jul 2006, 18:29

The August update will be a few days late. as I need to add more file that usually, including the very long story from All4Eyes. (Yes, I got it.) So, bear with me, it is a lot of reading, formatting and uploading, but be sure, the August update wil be worth the work.

All4Eyes to Bobby 28 Jul 2006, 19:06

I meant "resent" as in "sent again" not "I resent that!".

All4Eyes to Bobby 28 Jul 2006, 19:04

I resent that email. Did it get there this time? I may have to send from my other email box. I sent tortoise a letter awhile ago and haven't gotten one back, so maybe my email isn't working.

Bobby 25 Jul 2006, 16:11

Legend to the options at

Lide=home of



Forum=forums to discuss a lot of stupid topics (99% in Czech)

Seznamka=dating service (free)



Hry-on-line=games online

Spoluzaci=schoolmates (server for schollmates to meet)


Muj profil=my profile

Odhlasit se=logout

x pratel online= x friends online

x novych vzkazu = x new messages

x novych mailu = x new e-mails

x moje seznameni = x my dating

ostatni fotky = more photos

strawberry is the best rating

Predchozi = previous (profile)

Dalsi = next (profile)

Napis vzkaz = type a message

Bobby 25 Jul 2006, 16:01

Hi all,

I have created a profile at for all of you to make it possible for you to surf, browse and contact (!) the GWGs you like.


1. go to

2. type: "eyescene" into the "uzivatelske jmeno" field

3. type: "glasses" into the "heslo" field

4. click the "Prihlasit se" button of press Enter.

5. Do not change the profile, please.

6. Enjoy browsing and be polite.

Warning: Only about 15 % of Czechs can speak English, the same counts for German, only very few Czechs can speak French, Spanish or Italian.

Bobby to All 4Eyes 25 Jul 2006, 12:52

Thank you very much, it is nice you remember. I did not get any mail from you, sorry.

All4Eyes to Bobby 24 Jul 2006, 19:03

Happy birthday! Btw, did you get my email?

Fred 23 Jul 2006, 02:59

Sounds like a nice idea. I don't know what is available. A forum with profiles containing the same kind of information would also be nice.

lazysiow 23 Jul 2006, 02:39

Any chance of a new lenschat program where we can make profiles, pictures and prescription info. Prescription history too if possible ;)

 16 Jul 2006, 18:19

Try Sound Optical labs. in Tacoma.

Yardman 16 Jul 2006, 17:23

Have had rimless frames for years with glass Photogray lens, Tri-focal with Double D Cut. Do not need new frames. Want Glass photogray in my fames, have new presciption. Can not fill in Oregon. Any solutions available?

Cactus Jack 15 Jul 2006, 08:21


I don't think we are out of the woods yet. It appears that someone is still trying to turn the GOC thread into something it isn't.

I wonder if eyescene hater could be behind the attacks. Perhaps the reason for his hate is that Wurm has messed up his play pen.

As Mr. Shakespere said: "Me thinks he doth protest too much!"


Puffin 14 Jul 2006, 17:44

It's nice to be back to normal here. Poker is fun but not that much of it!

Anyway, I'm thinking of putting on my site "4 eyed angel", oh I love that story! And some new morphs. All if I have some time.

Oh yes, eyescene hater, you can't beat us, so why not join us instead? "We are Borg!"

 14 Jul 2006, 11:31

maybe the spam was an attack?

eyhescene hater 14 Jul 2006, 07:59

shit on you julian fag

fuck you wormy wurm

Julian 14 Jul 2006, 07:26

Sure, but I don't expect it to. As I said it's been a temporary thing with other threads before - and it isn't happening with GOC .

Wurm 14 Jul 2006, 07:14

The post index should be usable again.

Julian, let me know if that problem shows up permanently for either of the spammed threads. I was using unfamiliar tools and may have messed up the text encoding or something.

Julian 14 Jul 2006, 07:03

Funny thing is, now I can't open this thread in Firefox; I have to change over to Explorer. This is a problem I've had on various threads in the past few months; it goes away eventually.

Cactus Jack 13 Jul 2006, 22:26


Ahhh! That is much better. Thanks.


Wurm 13 Jul 2006, 21:16

I've done some cleanup and put a very simple block up. I'll be working on a more complete anti-spam solution sometime in the next couple of weeks.

Julian 07 Jul 2006, 03:27

Bobby: no mail so far. They were Word files from a Mac - same as before I thought.

Bobby 07 Jul 2006, 01:46

2 all:

the story site is updated, there are 2 new stories by S4E and a new MIG section with 10 stories by Doreen F.

Another update is going to be done during July (MIG stories by Izzy)


Troubles with encoding of the files you sent me. C yr mail.


Congrat 2 yr site up again!


Send them 2 me, objections or not.

specs4ever 05 Jul 2006, 18:58

I do have 4 eyed angel saved on my computer, along with Ann's Business and The Program by rhamilton46. I also have Lucy's Greatest Treasure by Christy, and a story called UHaul by an unknown author. I also have a story called Serenity by Hikari. All these stories are great tales, and are worth putting back on the web. I wonder if I should send them off to Bobby to put on his website. If any of the authors of these stories have any objection to me doing that, please let me know.

-5.00 who luvs gwgs 05 Jul 2006, 14:28

In Puffins excellent stories he mentions in Dolphin Dance a gwg story four eyed angel by Robert where can I find this?

 01 Jul 2006, 08:00


Puffin 01 Jul 2006, 07:58

Oh well it was worth a try (!)

Puffin 01 Jul 2006, 07:58


 30 Jun 2006, 19:02

Ya ochin' lyublyu "ochki dom"

Puffin 30 Jun 2006, 14:58

I am pleased to say my site update has worked at last!

perhaps in a few days I can finish "Dear Diary 5"(!)

Puffin 26 Jun 2006, 18:07

I am doing an update at my site.

Hopefully it will be working tommorow.

Tod (aka) Tomx 23 Jun 2006, 16:26





Wurm 08 Jun 2006, 20:20

Rob, thanks for your interest in the site.

The latest daily averages (June) are: 10506 hits/day and 1973 visits/day. The BBS gets about 33 posts/day. I would estimate that there is a core of about 75 regular users.

oodating 08 Jun 2006, 19:24

So one for hardcore oo's and one for ordinary people. Eyesceners, put your profiles up!

SZ6 08 Jun 2006, 19:22

Nice! I may put up a profile on both of those at some point...

glassesaresexy 08 Jun 2006, 19:17

check out

SZ6 08 Jun 2006, 19:03

This is a fantastic idea... if I may offer some constructive criticism, I wonder if an OO dating site might be more effective if the OO aspect was toned down a little. For example, I have met plenty of women who have a thing for men with glasses, but not quite to the degree of optic obsession. If the site was presented less as an OO dating site, and more as a dating site for people with glasses or who were interested in glasses, I imagine more people of both genders (who were looking for both genders) would sign up.

Maybe part of the dating profile could be a question, how into glasses are you? And you could answer anything from "sometimes they look nice" to "the thicker and geekier the better!" Just throwing out ideas here... it's a great idea, I think you should run with it!

oodating 08 Jun 2006, 18:13

Hi all, I've made a online dating application for us

We need some brave volunteers to go first!

Rob 08 Jun 2006, 14:40

Wurm, I was wondering how much traffic Eyescene gets per day. Any stats? Thanks!

 03 Jun 2006, 23:01

Specfiend, Soulmates is brilliant! Fantastic story.

Bobby 03 Jun 2006, 02:15 is updated, 5 new stories about girls and boys with glasses, 2 of them by S4E, 1 in the MIG section, 1 by Specfiend, 1 by un uknown new author, come - read - enjoy!

Stefan 24 May 2006, 14:19 is a Holmes link that might interest some people on here...

ChrisB 08 May 2006, 15:32

Guest and Bobby. Thanks for the flattering remarks. Yes, I do have a second chapter which I will mail over. Having had this praise I will try and complete another story I started based around a Lisa Kaye character.


Bobby 08 May 2006, 10:59

Re: ChrisB's story

I like the story very much and I hope there will be at least one more part of it, in spite of ¨my liking it I cannot make ChrisB write and send another part as it is against my principles. (I think, the best stories are those written without any pressure put on the suthor.) Let us wait, and let us not hesitate to say: "ChrisB, we like your work!"

Puffin 08 May 2006, 06:05


It's ok to use the same story idea & title. As for completing it, I'm not sure that's ever going to be possible - my version is a bit of a monster. I have plot lines ready but can't seem to get the time and inclination to finish it. Anyway I'm busy writing something else completely different (non-glasses). One day, I'll get back to Kirsty & co.

Guest 08 May 2006, 03:10

Bobby - that latest story by ChrisB was really great. The way it was left I assume there is a follow-up - can you persuade ChrisB to get it online for us ?

specs4ever 07 May 2006, 16:49

Puffin, I noticed your comment about the fact that you also have a story about a girls diary. I have read yours, and am hoping that you will someday bring it to completion.

My story is, to me, a totally different plot, and I am sorry if you feel put out that I used this theme.

Phil 04 May 2006, 09:42

I haven't been able to get into Lenschat for ages. I did manage it just once last week but usually my efforts are "timed out". Does anyone have any suggestions?

Bobby 29 Apr 2006, 05:23

Julian: Yes,

1: All's well, Much ado, Midsummer, Two Gents

2: Feasting 1, 2, 3,

3: Dominic 1, 2

Puffin: I hope you'll take part in the game soon.

I don't want to say which of the stories I like the most, but I have my favorites, of course. I am happy to see, that the numbers of visitors keep rising.

Puffin 29 Apr 2006, 05:08

Bobby, liked the stories especially "Annie Bagley" but, err, I know of another story about a Diary and a girl called Kirsty :) One day, I'll get back to writing glasses stories. I'm busy writing other stories (fantasy-based) at the moment.

Julian 29 Apr 2006, 01:41

OK Bobby; can't do it right now but I'll manage a bit later. Important question: I sent you three emails on 8 March with MIG stories attached. DID YOU GET THEM?

Bobby 29 Apr 2006, 00:17

Yes, Julian, send it. It seems that the weather today is so bad I wil have to cancel my trip to mountains, which might make it possible for me to upload more MIG stories this weekend.

Julian 28 Apr 2006, 18:35

Bobby: great new stories, all of them. Are you going to be able to post the stuff I sent you for the MIG section sometime? I have some more when you're ready for it.

Bobby (May update) 28 Apr 2006, 15:28

Go to

The 4 new stories about girls with glasses are waiting to please you.

Two are by S4E, one by ChrisB, and one by All4Eyes. Enjoy.

lazysiow 19 Apr 2006, 19:05

This is for the lenschat admin.

Make sure you tell people that they have to remember to click exit on lenschat, otherwise you'll be logged in like forever. The timeout value is too long. I was a dumbass and now Bronwyn thinks I'm ignoring her lol

 14 Apr 2006, 15:51

<a href="">Testing a Link</a>

Therouteur 10 Apr 2006, 06:12

I've resolved my problem by playing with the security settings. Christ knows what rubbish is landing on the hard disc but at least I've got ES. (sighs.........)

-5.00 who luvs gwgs  09 Apr 2006, 14:48

I agree this is the best web site and I am very glad I found it about 18 months ago .Two suggestions news personalities implies to many news readers would it be better to rename it people in the news secondly it would be nice to have a History of Glasses thread

Bobby updated again 08 Apr 2006, 07:02


I made an extra update of my website. By courtesy of Wieprz, there are two old stories translated into Czech.


Udelal jsem mimoradnou aktualizaci. Díky laskavosti Wieprze jsou v ceske casti dve stare povidky prelozene do cestiny: Roztleskavacka (The Cheerleader) a Vylet (After the Outing)

still 07 Apr 2006, 09:35

A protest: "steffy" has advertised glasses for sale on 3 different threads, not even relevant in all cases. I wish people would respect us here and just post once, where it belongs, not waste our time!!

lazysiow 05 Apr 2006, 21:11

He may use a proxy server, although I here the chinese government is on top of constantly stamping out.

Ask around, some locals may be able to give you a headsup. Possibly a student of yours

Tim 05 Apr 2006, 20:55

That's terrible news! My wife's new job in Shanghai suddenly seems much less appealing.

Come in, Wei, how do you get round the problem? Or are you in Singapore/Malaysia/Taiwan?

Therouteur 05 Apr 2006, 19:22

Beware all! I have just had the most distressing three weeks of my life.

In a vain attempt to shore up the rocky finances I took on a job teaching a three week course in South China. All very well. But the first time I tried to bring up ES on my computer. NOTHING HAPPENED. And the second time. And so on......

A little investigation revealed that there is something called the Great Firewall of China which blocks out sites which are deemed to be "pornographic" and "subversive". Since most of my favorite pornographic sites seem to come up with no problems, I must conclude that ES is subversive, something which many of us have been aware of for many years.

But if you don't want to be left a quivering wreck, stay away from China.

Or alternatively Wei may be able to tell us how he manages. Love to hear.

Bobby 04 Apr 2006, 16:25

Thank you very much. (blush)

Puffin 04 Apr 2006, 13:50

That's a nice story.

Bobby ... 1 more story 04 Apr 2006, 13:05

Thank you. I enjoy runing the web site.

There is one more story for you.

lazysiow 03 Apr 2006, 01:19

nice to see more stories! That's mostly what got me here in the first place.

Nowadays its nothing but a bajillion fake Wei posts

Bobby's story site updated 02 Apr 2006, 05:35

Hi all readers!

There are two new stories "The Myopia Study" and "Addicted to Minus" by Specs4ever . Both are very hot with many gradational increases! Blindly Shanghaied by S4E was translated into Czech by Wieprz, see the Czech section, click the czcech flag.

Blindly Shanghaied byla prelozena do cestiny Wieprzem, viz ceska sekce, kliknete na ceskou vlajku.

Tod 31 Mar 2006, 10:13

Hostage, Jill Carrol was freeded today. She looks to be about a -5.00 lens wearer.

lazysiow 30 Mar 2006, 18:36

can we do registration and avoid this fake Wei nonsense? I'm getting quite sick of seeing it

ehpc 27 Mar 2006, 08:16

Elizabeth:) How you doing chick? Pete

Elizabeth 26 Mar 2006, 17:57


Elizabeth 26 Mar 2006, 17:56

Please Help me, I saw a program regarding Lisa Loeb's desire to meet some Jewish guy and get married.

I am just in love with those new butterfly frame glasses she is wearing now. Some times she wears black ones and other times they look dark brown. Does anyone know the possible and manufacturer os such a cool eyeglass frame?????. I want a pair sooooo bad.



The Origional GWG

All4Eyes 23 Mar 2006, 14:56

Katy:You're probably right. Some of the things here and on the linked sites are a little "out there" compared to how I feel. and we O.O.s kind of have our own lingo here that would be hard for someone else to understand. Btw, I had a voice chat with him the other day and I told him he had the "myopic personality" (intelligent, bookish, introverted-in short, a nerd)-which he does-and he laughed.

Katy 22 Mar 2006, 14:22

All4Eyes - I wouldn't :-) I would tell him how you feel first, and how it works for you - some of the posts on here probably represent how you feel but there will be lots that don't.. it would probably be quite confusing for him :-)

All4Eyes 22 Mar 2006, 11:52

Katy (or anyone else):When I tell the guy I'm talking to about my being an O.O., would you suggest I refer him here to Eyescene to see what it's all about?

Bobby 21 Mar 2006, 16:33

Long live Eye Scene !!!

Katy 18 Mar 2006, 15:12

Me too! I remember when I first found it, about 18 months ago, I stayed up all night reading every thread. I couldn't believe that there were other people out there that had a glasses fetish - I had always thought it was just me, and never really talked to anyone about it - I thought it was too strange. Thanks to this site and Electra's, I am so much more confident about the whole thing - my close friends know about it, my boyfriend describes himself as a 'trainee OO', and I wear my glasses, which I was always too shy to do. Thankyou Eyescene! :-)

Puffin 17 Mar 2006, 14:00

This is still the first site I visit every time I come on the internet. I love the discussions, the free-wheeling arguments and sense of community between glasses wearers and those who like to see them on others (that's me!)

Long may this site prosper!

Slit 17 Mar 2006, 10:27

Wurm and all the other people who believe in this amazing site and who work for the success of this...

Thank you, million, billion times...

Long Live Eye Scene!!!

- Happy Birthday -

Jennifer 15 Mar 2006, 08:57

Thanks for a great site! I've enjoyed reading everyone's post through the years. It's a great place to read about our common interest. We are truely a community of glasses lovers. It's great to share in our interest. Thanks for keeping this site alive and well...

P Perfect 14 Mar 2006, 20:23

Happy Birthday ES - and from a long time lurker and occasional poster - to echo the sentiments of Filthy, to have a place to express what is a huge part of life to us ~(((0)-(0))))~ is a real gift. Thx ES/Wurm.

Filthy McNasty 14 Mar 2006, 18:48

9 years, huh? That's a long time to have been 'out' as an OO. This forum allowed me to speak my mind on the topic, and in fact is the only place I have ever truly been able to do so. Thanks to all of you, especially the old timers (Julian and NeuroJoe in particular come to mind) I remember so well, the long-time lurkers, and of course, most of all to Wurm. I've actually met him in person (once) and can say that he was the same gentleman he seems to be on this board.

myopeinhere 14 Mar 2006, 17:36

Wow,only seems like yesterday I was lurking and posting on here on my trusty p200mmx with 16mb of ram!!!!

O alias BigO 14 Mar 2006, 17:25

Nine years? Well that makes me about an 8 year veteran lurker then :)

Happy anniversary Chris and thanks for keeping this alive for both the regular posters and the lurkers like me :)

Wurm 14 Mar 2006, 17:10

Happy anniversary to the group. And thanks very much for the kind words. I greatly appreciate all the thoughtful contributors and loyal readers, particularly our 'regulars'. I'm sure our tenth year will be as eventful as each of the past nine have been!

Galileo 14 Mar 2006, 14:55

I have been following this site for 7 years and had not realised it had been that long until I read Val's message. Congratulations Chris, nothing ever holds my interest this long. And thank you for all the work you have put in over the years to keep the site going.

My favourites over the long term have to be people like Julian, Filthy and Bobby, all with distinctive styles and personalities which always come through in their writing.

Having said that I value all the people who take the time to contribute here. If they didn't I would have nothing to read! Thanks.

still 14 Mar 2006, 14:32

That says it for me, also.

big ES fan 14 Mar 2006, 08:01


I would like to thank you again for this wonderful site. I think I've been here since the beginning but I did'nt post originally.

This is my favorite site on the whole internet and I appreciate all of your hard work and money to bring it to us.

Knowing how special this site is, it really makes me mad when people abuse it. I try to post only helpfull or friendly information. I wish I could contribute more but I am glad others are more able to find gwgs sites and post links and other helpfull, interesting things.

Thanks again.

Therouteur 13 Mar 2006, 23:19

Nine years!! This calls for special effort. Maybe someone of a literary bent couls summarise some of the amazing characters who've visited this site during that time. Anyone like to kick off?

All4Eyes 13 Mar 2006, 14:44

Not sure if this is the place for this, but here's my opinion of Specs4Ever's new story "the Pretenders"-I love it! I have a bit of an interest in blindness as well as myopia so this crossover story is just my thing! I'd love to see more like it.

Val 13 Mar 2006, 11:30


9 YEARS...

Val 13 Mar 2006, 11:25

Happy Aniversary Eyescene !


And many thanks to Chris (Wurm).

Wurm, your work was/is/will be highly appreciated.

 12 Mar 2006, 10:19

has anyone seen this girl????

Kokopelli 12 Mar 2006, 08:12

To the anonymous poster: What I think Marielle is trying to say is that she doesn't want people trying to take over her identity and make posts here.

She's probably very well capable of posting her experiences here herself, if she wants to.

Pretending to be another existing person is not what this board seems to be about. I've been enjoying this BBS almost 10 years now. And every once in a while someone will try to do these things fofr whatever reason.

 11 Mar 2006, 00:08

does Marielle think she/he has exclusive use of the name. You may as well say i am called john, no one else can use that name. Silly person

Marielle 10 Mar 2006, 23:57

Hello this is to whoever is the moderator of this site. Someone here posted a message trying to be me. I don't know what the deal is about this and what purpose.

I request that you the moderator remove this message and any others that appear under my name. I'm not an Eye Scene visitor (Lenschat only)

I would really appreciate your efforts

Bobby's March update 03 Mar 2006, 13:53

has been updated. 2 new stories by S4E. These are extraordinary good and hot.

and, please --->


Dear browsers, lurkers and readers

All authors, although writing for the reason of the inner urge to tell stories that live in their minds, need a kind of feedback. In simple terms, they want their readers to tell them if they like the stories. I have not discussed the topic with all the authors who published their texts here, but I am sure each of them will be happy if you provide them with a kind of reaction. As you cannot mail them for the time being, post your reactions at the Eye Scene, the Glasses over contacts Yahoo! group or mail the reaction to me.

Most of the authors will be really happy to get to know how much you like their works.

Yours Bobby

still 28 Feb 2006, 09:28

8-)Thanks, Myofan! That proves that I am becoming presbyopic!

myofan 27 Feb 2006, 10:45

Simple solution. Take out the period (.) from the end of the link. It should be

still 27 Feb 2006, 10:02

Has anyone noticed that Bobby's link to his site brings up an error message in Czech language? Any solution?

Kokopelli 26 Feb 2006, 00:31

Hi, has anybdoy experienced trouble with the Lenschat server? For days now it seems hit and miss when I want to log on. It looks like the page takes too long to download and causes a timeout.

Maybe TC will read this, or any others that might know what's up

Cactus Jack 20 Feb 2006, 02:10

Bobby, Thanks for using a different shade of blue for background in the story title area. It is much easier for some of us older f**ts to read the titles than on the home page.


Bobby updated his web site 19 Feb 2006, 16:42

Hi all, I have just updated my web site

What's new? Stories, of course, this time they are the MIG stories (men in glasses stories). Thanks to co-operation with our old Eye Scene member, Jules, a new part of the collection is coming. Read and enjoy.

YIKES!!! 05 Feb 2006, 11:16


Julian 04 Feb 2006, 22:48

Good question still, I was wondering the same thing.

still 04 Feb 2006, 21:29

OK, but Tod, what was the relevance of that link to this site? I just visited it, and maybe I missed something?

Tod 04 Feb 2006, 10:39

perhaps myofan thinks he owns this site?

Tod 04 Feb 2006, 10:39

perhaps myofan think he owns this site?

xyz 04 Feb 2006, 09:26

thank you myofan. for nothing that is!

myofan 01 Feb 2006, 14:11

Tod's message has nothing to do with vision or glasses. He's just a spammer with nothing better to do.

Tod 01 Feb 2006, 14:10

Tos 01 Feb 2006, 14:09

2 new stories by S4E 01 Feb 2006, 04:59

Hi I have just updated my website

There are 2 new stories by Specs4ever.

The rig bringing the MIG stories is coming slowly as the job is big.

Bobby 31 Jan 2006, 15:11

Yep, I've got it!

Julian 31 Jan 2006, 04:57

Bobby, I sent you an email with attachments 36 hours ago. Did you get it OK? If not perhaps I have the wrong address; you could mail me: julianmungo(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk

Bobby (stories collection) 29 Jan 2006, 08:28

Julian, and the others:

I have some of the stories from Elektra's web site. So, it is not necessary to send me all of them.

here is the list of the stories I have

Belissimo part 1 and 2

Jewels - part 1, 2, 3, and 4

Jewels Too - The Gay PerSPECtive by Electra with Dale Gaye part 1, 2, and 3

That's a Plus - Part 1, 2, 3, and 4

The Fern - Part 1, 2, and 3

The Dragon and the Mountain part 1 and 2

New - Part 1, 2, and 3

Everything New

Late One Night Part 1 and 2

Melted Sand part 1 and 2


Simon - Part 1


Inside Out

Charles - In The Library - Part One

Late One Night part 1 and 2

I am sure, you would like to add some more. feel free sending them by e-mail. I will do my best to upload them till 31st March.

GWG_CHRISTIE 29 Jan 2006, 02:37

Hi Everyone.

Just to let you all know that there is a VERY malicious virus doing the rounds at the moment - Unfortunately, it has my name on. BUT IT'S NOT ME. I'm clean, but some one has hacked into some of the Yahoo groups I belong to and is spreading it out.

I NEVER send out attachments - so please don't open anything that has my name on it that has an attachment.

Luv Christie 0^0

Julian 28 Jan 2006, 22:33

Thanks a million, Bobby! I'll send you the material I have, bit by bit, and hope other people will help as well.

Bobby 28 Jan 2006, 12:23



Bobby 28 Jan 2006, 12:22

All right, it seems Elektra's site has not been updated for such a long time we can easily say she (or he?) is gone. If you want send all the "man in glasses" stories stright of gay to me and I will create a new section(s) on my web site and upload them. If I am the man whö can create the largest collection of the stories of the kind I must be the one. My e-mail is at my web site, where there is still a lot of space for many stories.

Katy 26 Jan 2006, 06:57

Good idea - those stories are brilliant. I have some printed out but I'll save all of them just in case. I don't know how the Geocities sites work - whether or not you have to keep logging in to keep them going.

It is strange - even though quite a few of my offline friends know about my glasses thing, I haven't told them about Eyescene. I suppose I don't want them to read everything I have written. My boyfriend has a look though - whenever he comes up to the computer this where I am! :-)

Julian 26 Jan 2006, 06:05

Not a cheep since the end of April last year. I continued sending her material till the end of August, but it was never posted and she never replied. I guess if she's around and interested she'll see these posts and can get in touch.

Might be as well to salvage the text of some of the stories on her site; it would be a shame to lose all that material if the site closes down without warning.

One of the problems of the medium: as they say on the internet nobody knows you're a dog, and we all value our anonymity or rather pseudonymity - but if you - or I - or Electra - fell under a bus tomorrow, who would be any the wiser? My offline friends don't know that I'm Julian...

Katy 26 Jan 2006, 05:08

Has anyone heard anything from Electra? It is nearly a year since her site was updated and now her hotmail address doesn't work. Julian - I know you were asking a while ago - did you find anything out? I hope she's ok and just busy with a gorgeous MIG :-)

 21 Jan 2006, 10:42

Me real Wei and me fake also.

Wei 21 Jan 2006, 04:51

Can fake Wei(s) please stop posting. More fake Wei post on XXX links.

Bobby 31 Dec 2005, 12:07

As I will be drunk like a skunk at 24:00, without any chance to type in my long password for the web connection, I am sending you this:

Happy New Year 2006

Šastný Nový Rok 2006

Szczêœliwego Nowego Roku 2006

Bachtalo Nevo Berš 2006

Hansel 31 Dec 2005, 11:01

Premature in England by about 5 hours, but Happy New Year to all.

Hansel lives near the England/Scotland border so perhaps that should be

"Happy Hogmanay, all!"

Therouteur 25 Dec 2005, 14:13

And Merry Christmas to all from the sunny south where the surf is breaking lazily on sparkling white sands.........

Going for a swim now.

Julian 25 Dec 2005, 12:14

Christmas greetings to all my virtual friends on EyeScene, and happy sighting in 2006.

Love and kisses, Jules.

Bobby 25 Dec 2005, 12:14

Merry Christmas from Czechia

Vesele Vanoce z Ceska

Shukar Karatshonya pal o Tshekhi

Filthy McNasty 25 Dec 2005, 11:08

Merry Christmas to all OO sickos.

girnur 23 Dec 2005, 16:01

It´s 01.00 am the 24th Swedish time right now.

girnur 23 Dec 2005, 15:59

Merry Christmas from Sweden!

I hope that all of you have a nice holliday. :)

lentifan 16 Dec 2005, 14:18

You sussed me out, Bobby!

I look forward with anticipation to your new morphs in the New Year.

Puffin 15 Dec 2005, 17:26

My site is at

It's not been updated for a while, but I have been busily writing...

specs4ever 15 Dec 2005, 15:10

well Slit, I suggest if you can do better, give it a try

Bobby 15 Dec 2005, 14:00

Puffin, what is the URL of your web site?

Lazysiow 15 Dec 2005, 13:36

There hasn't been much in the way of decent glasses stories for awhile since the site went more "professional".

I was first drawn here by tons and tons of glasses stories back in the old days. I also remember when a reply to someone who posted here saying something like "I think I'm shortsighted how can I tell" would get a reply like "oh just pick up a pair of -3's and see if you can see through them" :D

goahead 15 Dec 2005, 13:17

The best glasses story is

Slit 15 Dec 2005, 10:12

Hi all,

well these days i see a huge lack of facinating glasses stories.

I am really sick of the strories which have characters who starts glasses at age of 7 with an Rx of -1 and go up to -22 in six years.

Come-on guys, please write some realistic stories with a artistic touch.

The ultimate and best glases story for me is:

It starts with a very usual setting and gives away a story of gradual increase in rx coupled with some light technical aspects...

So please, give us some new kind of stories...

Puffin 15 Dec 2005, 04:39

Bobby, thanks, but now I have my site back up, after a fashion, I think it'll be OK. BTW I am writing as fast as I can!

Bobby 15 Dec 2005, 04:06

Lentifan, you are obviously a real lenti fan. I will try to make some new morphs in January.

Puffin, Specs4ever's stories are a real classic of the genre. My offer to host some of your stories is still available.

Puffin 14 Dec 2005, 17:57

Yes, thankyou from me too, really liked the extra thick glasses, made me laugh to see them so thick, but, oh, what if they were real?

lentifan 14 Dec 2005, 16:10


I've just seen your update. Your new morphs are great fun and, as usual, specs4ever's stories are first class. Something new every time, even if, thankfully, there's a common and much appreciated thread!

I specially liked the first 2 morphs in the second row - just the sort of lenses my dream parner would wear. And I should mention, too, your first ('Various') morphs page; the girl in the leftmost picture in the bottom row looks quite delightful. You've perfectly captured that 'slitty' look myopic eyes often have behind strong minus lenses.

A Merry Christmas to you and S4e, and thank you once again.

Bobby 14 Dec 2005, 15:56

The links to the pix have been repaired! Check it!

(Thick as hell)

Bobby 14 Dec 2005, 15:16

Sakra! Gonna repair that, there are capital letters in the file names!

Stefan 13 Dec 2005, 11:17

Hello Bobby... thanks for your update, but i think the pics aren't linked properly yet - at any rate i get an error message when trying to access them!

Bobby's web site updated) 12 Dec 2005, 15:10

Hi all readers and fans of S4E's stories.

I updated my website. It is the late December update as well as Xmas update, because there is a new story by Specs4ever "The Christmas Present". You will find one more story by him in his section and 15 crazy morphs in "Thick like hell" section.

Fred 06 Dec 2005, 10:16

Hi Emily,

Actually, it is alive and kicking, but perhaps you have the same problems as I have. I can only reach it by using a proxy. For example go to and try to reach lenschat from there. I'm not sure what is wrong, but at least this works.

Emily 06 Dec 2005, 06:03

What has happened to Lenschat? It's been down for 4 or 5 days.

Fred 30 Nov 2005, 15:04

Tammy, thanks for your solution! Since it was quite some time ago that I posted the problem I did not expect any answer to my problems anymore... All of a sudden it worked again, but at the moment I don't have much time to chat, unfortunately. Another solution I found was just to circumvent the problem by visting the site using a anonymouse proxy. It also worked, but made the chat very slow. Hope to meet you in the chat soon!

Tammy 27 Nov 2005, 15:38


I wanted to let you know that the reason i worded my last post the way i did was because i don't know how much you know about computers. You may be an expert, i don't know, but it's nobody's business but your own, so don't tell us.

Tammy 21 Nov 2005, 18:50

Fred, this is only a suggestion, and i don't really mean to talk down to you, but have you deleted your cookies and cleared your browser history lately? That seems to work for me.

Puffin 17 Nov 2005, 07:05

Sorry if anyone is out there hoping for an update on my site, life has been a bit too tangled recently.

Bobby 16 Nov 2005, 20:11

I made a small update at my website There is a new text about my attempt to wear GOC full time.

Wurm 11 Nov 2005, 23:15

Posting was down for a bit but should be working again now.

Wurm 07 Nov 2005, 19:38

I wouldn't know, Cactus Jack. You might try posting your question on the "Online Retailers" thread.

Cactus Jack 07 Nov 2005, 09:16

Wurm - Is there a special way to enter Rx at O4l to bypass their hi-index offerings on their order form and request CR-39 or to address Rx requests to Albert?


Bobby 31 Oct 2005, 17:11 has been updated. 2 new stories by S4E.

Filthy McNasty 30 Oct 2005, 09:18

I have ordered from O4L and had no problems. Albert was communicative and helpful. Wurm, I think, has made a good choice of sponsors, especially in light of the benefit O4L has been to those of us with this strange fascination for the lens.

still 29 Oct 2005, 11:31

Congratulations, Wurm! The ad is understated and stylish, and I guess I will get used to it after a bit. Anyway, my point is that this site is of such high quality that I'm surprised an advertiser hasn't found it sooner.

Wurm 29 Oct 2005, 10:10

Special thanks go to Optical4less for their generous long-term sponsorship agreement.

I'm impressed by O4l's understanding of the ES community and willingness to cater to some of the more unusual requests.

My advice for dealing with any online discounter: place a small order the first time. Then if you are happy with the service and product, show your appreciation by becoming a repeat customer.

 29 Oct 2005, 07:00

no, it's not working

Julian 29 Oct 2005, 03:47

I got on there and had a brief chat with a guy in Italy.

 29 Oct 2005, 03:46


Fred 29 Oct 2005, 03:16

Am I the only one having trouble in connecting to lenschat?

Fred 28 Oct 2005, 17:14

Interesting... My browsers say that it is impossible to connect to lenschat. Well, perhaps tomorrow it will work again...

Julian 28 Oct 2005, 16:04

I got the front page OK but there was no one in.

Fred 28 Oct 2005, 15:24

Apparently, lenschat is not working at the moment... Is there anyone who can notify TC? Or is it only me who can not connect to it?

derek 17 Oct 2005, 23:17

Leave the other one in Fred, its nice to talk in private to a friend sometimes.

Fred 17 Oct 2005, 02:06

Thanks TC! It appears there are two chats now... Perhaps I should remove the one I created, I think the original lenschat is better.

TC 17 Oct 2005, 00:12

Wow, I'm sorry!

Some changes were made to the host and database, someone notified me the chat was down, I tested it and it worked fine that day. I wasn't aware it had gone back down.

It appears to be back up again right now, I will check it out a few times through the week and see if it is now stable.

My apologies for the downtime.

Fred 15 Oct 2005, 14:35

I just created an alternative chat. The link is:

You don't have to log in, so perhaps we'll have the inposter-problem soon... Let's see what happens.

Nikki 11 Oct 2005, 18:23

Ha of the few times I pop in to chat just to see what's going on it' broken!!! Oh well, we move on, we do don't we, move on? Worse things have happened.

Vinegar Joe 11 Oct 2005, 17:37

I wish people wouldn't complain when the chat is down.

The chat is a luxury and I appreciate it when it is running. And I do miss it when it is down.

So we should all be grateful to Wurm for making this all possible, and be patient when things are not running so smoothly.

 11 Oct 2005, 11:34

Really? I'd love to hear you complain...

 11 Oct 2005, 09:58

Some people would bitch if hung with a new rope.

-14 11 Oct 2005, 07:05

Looks like chat is gone again. I do agree with Julian that the old chat was much more user friendly. you could check out the subject before you joined and not come crashing into a discussion that turned out to be of no interest.

Fred 10 Oct 2005, 14:30

It seems the chat is working again! Great! Now hopefully all the people who regularly used it will return...

 10 Oct 2005, 04:59

What exactly happened to the chat? Is it being repaired or is it simply gone for good?

Bert 09 Oct 2005, 12:49

I agree with Like Glass and Julian.

Perhaps all of those who use the chat for legitimate use, (as opposed to imposting), could get together to fund in some way, a replica of the "rusty hinge".

eeck 09 Oct 2005, 12:22

the world is running out of oil! will we all soon be wearing wire rims with glass lenses?

Fred 09 Oct 2005, 12:06

Well, a chat in the old style is also OK, but now there is just nothing...

LikeGlass 08 Oct 2005, 17:35

Hummm... Interesting thought Julian. I must admit I was more inclined to pop into chat in the old days. Now, when you sign in, you feel obligated to say something. It would be cool if people could just hang (or lurk) and then maybe sign in if they wanted to join the conversation.

Julian 08 Oct 2005, 02:17

...or even the trouble ::)

Julian 08 Oct 2005, 02:16

Oddly enough, I used the chat far more before it was 'improved', when I could just look in and out again in pasing if I didn't want to join in the discussion, if there was one. I do realize that had its problems, and I sometimes suffered from them; but I was much less inclined to take the rouble to sign in.

Fred 08 Oct 2005, 01:10

Is there anything known about when the chat will be repaired or if there is any alternative? I'm really missing it...

Kokopelli 08 Oct 2005, 00:33

Wurm, please block this woodframes guy.


woodframes 07 Oct 2005, 21:44

Good day,

I am a maker of hand carved wooden glasses, each being specific in design and construction to the desires of the customer. I personally pick all my woods to ensure uniqueness and quality. If anyone is interested in a one in a kind pair of eyewear, feel free to contact me as we could discuss further the possibilities of custom wooden frames.

Scott Urban

 07 Oct 2005, 17:39

That link for glasses stories is good. Any new ones anytime soon? Someone should write a story about a popular girl who has to get glasses and becomes a geek. Where else can I find glasses stories?

ehpc 07 Oct 2005, 15:42

As Trom doesn't know either of us, Phil,we can consider him a total w....r:)Many very wonderful people, including many beautiful GWGs text me regularly:) SO THERE! :) Pete

Phil 07 Oct 2005, 08:21

That's horrid Trom! Though from the lack of take up, at least in relation to me, others may share your sentiments. We are both clever, fun chaps who enjoy contact with gwgs.

Trom 06 Oct 2005, 13:05

Why anyone would want to text either or you, is beyond me.

ehpc 06 Oct 2005, 08:01

Me too:) GWGs can text me on (+44)(0)7747 023247. Pete

Phil 06 Oct 2005, 01:02

I can't get into Lenschat!! It's awful. I so enjoy chatting to my gwg chums, especially Frances who I was just getting to know. If any gwg wants to take pity on me text me on 07871436620 for a chat by text. Please!!

 05 Oct 2005, 19:47

The chat is dead in the water.

Someone throw me an inner tube.

Bobby 01 Oct 2005, 16:25

Hi all, there are two new stories by Specs4ever at

They are quite hot, so do not hesitate, click the link, read and enjoy. Yours Bobby

Bobby updated 24 Sep 2005, 09:34

Hi all,

I updated my website today. There are 6 new stories.

Two of them are by Specs4ever, two of them are in the B&WC section (by Tatjd and by an unknown author), and two of them are written by myself.


Mimi 21 Sep 2005, 14:33

Just wanted to let everyone know that InStyle magazine has a little feature on eyeglasses. They talk about different frame style and have pictures of a variety of spectacles and a couple of actresses sporting their spces. Check it out, it's the October edition with Sarah Jessica Parker on the cover.

Wei 13 Sep 2005, 11:25

Thank you Patrick B, Puffin and Stuart.

Patrick B explain better than I the problem of high myopic! Low rx, yes is not so good as 20/20 but problem is small i think. High myopic give many difficulty which not understand well. I try not post too much now

Puffin 13 Sep 2005, 08:39

Also consider that there are many human ailments that cannot be altered or improved by the equivalent of simply putting on a pair of glasses.

Patrick B 13 Sep 2005, 08:01


Thanks for clearing the air! Your son will learn to cope with his myopia just as certainly as your husband has. I didn't start wearing glasses (-3) until I was seven, but friends of mine have a son who started at age four with, I believe, a -4. He's now eight and is a -6. They're hoping that his growth years won't accelerate his myopic progression, but they've been told that it will be pretty likely.

Hope your son enjoys his glasses. I took to my first ones like a fish to water.

Stuart  12 Sep 2005, 15:46

Well put Puffin and Patrick B.

I really think it is very simple -if you don't like what people are posting- don't read it. I wish my Chinese was as good as Wei's English!

Jennifer 12 Sep 2005, 14:06

Patrick B:

Sorry if you misunderstood my intentions. I am married to a high myope and face the prospect of my son getting glasses at a very early age. I do understand, but my husband has learned to cope as best as he can. Although I am not in his shoes, I do understand the struggles he goes through every day. Having said that, I feel that we should all respect each other regardless of what prescription we have. We are all wear glasses and must deal with the ups and downs on a daily basis. My apologies to Wei if he took it the wrong way. My prescription may not be as high as his, but I too feel that it's very hard for me to function without glasses. Sorry again for the misunderstanding. I was just trying to say that a "lucky" person is someone who doesn't need glasses at all.

Puffin 10 Sep 2005, 17:00

I for one have no problem with Wei. Carry on posting, there are many things to be said about glasses, we should all listen to what people have to say, even if we don't agree with them.

Moonshiner 10 Sep 2005, 14:10

Thank you Wurm, I'm tired of derogatory comments as well. Nobody is forcing anyone to read any of the posts, if you don't like them, don't read them.

Wei I am curious, If you don't mind, What country are you in?

Wurm 10 Sep 2005, 11:07

Everyone has spoken their peace about Wei's rather logorrheic posting style. Please note that I won't continue to tolerate a mob mentality.

Patrick B 10 Sep 2005, 10:58


You obviously don't have a clue about life as a high myope. (Why don't you also check my response to Jim in the Guys in Glasses thread). Wei isn't being patronizing or condescending, and I find it astounding that the likes of you can't give him a break for his English. Anyway, for starters, being a high myope means never (and I do mean never) enjoying full 20/20 vision with glasses. For some, that means not being able to drive, enjoy television viewing comfortably and any number of life's normal activities. It also means wearing thick, heavy glasses (and I mean glass lenses not plastic) with all of the problems of distortion and minimification. In some extreme cases it means wearing myodisc lenses which restrict one's viewing field. It also can mean having a different pair of glasses to read, one for the computer and one for distance. Why? Because bi/trifocal lenses aren't available in myodisc lenses with their small viewing areas. Some extreme myopes also carry small pocket telescopes to view bus numbers or whatever. Sometimes I think I should have one myself but can't bear the thought.

Being a low myope has its drawbacks, but it just ain't the same as being a high myope. It's like complaining to an insulin-dependent diabetic that you have it so rough because your diabetes is controllable through diet. Not the same kettle of fish at all.

XYZ 10 Sep 2005, 09:43

Wei, don't you get it, you're posting at the wrong place!

Wei 10 Sep 2005, 09:15

"No Wei" very rude.

No Wei 10 Sep 2005, 07:38

It's hard to believe that this expert on everything can't post a photo.

Wei 10 Sep 2005, 04:10

Jennifer: I not want patronization low rx people! Is difficulty for me tell what try explain for English of great diffciuty with me.

I try explain for low rx can be much improve with vision training but no person care on here!! I very much want improvement of vision but is difficult for -16D. I try help other of low rx who can improve sight.

Yes I think any kind need of glasses of is signicant but you understand for over -10D you canot see at all no glasses but for -1D person still see OK to walk outside no glasses!

Jennifer 09 Sep 2005, 13:23

Wei is very condescending to those that have "better" vision than he. I'm tired of hearing how "lucky" those are that have a low rx. Please--- having to wear glasses to see is significant regardless of the rx level!

dixieguest 09 Sep 2005, 11:47

Ugh enough already...........Wei you have a really large vocabulary but you have very little grasp of how to use grammar and modifiers. Plus you post so much. Do you have a job or just sit around posting to this website at all times. You seem to be about as authentic as a three dollar bill.

Wei 09 Sep 2005, 10:35

I feel I am discrimate due to poor English.

derek 09 Sep 2005, 09:26

confirm, no more wei, its getting very boring

Wei 09 Sep 2005, 08:56

dixie: I try not be offended by you comment too.

I only recent learn of optical matters after problem with glasses. I spend much time searching for information. I also learn much on this site.

I try help another as I helped by Patrick B, Stuart and many other myself.

I apologize for poor English but wish to try help other if possible.

dixie guest 09 Sep 2005, 07:58

I have thought Wei was a fake all along. His faux broken english is a dead giveaway!

 09 Sep 2005, 05:11

Its amazing that after being a -16 and wearing glasses all his life he didn't know anything about vision problems but after a month on this site he is know giving advice to others. I'm changing Wei's name to the professor.

 08 Sep 2005, 19:17

Yes-I agree


No Wei 08 Sep 2005, 17:37

Anybody elses tired of Wei?

Wurm 27 Aug 2005, 15:39

Hansel, if you mean the name underlining, I can set up both locations under a single name (assuming both IPs are stable).

Wurm 27 Aug 2005, 15:22

Adam, you're quite welcome. Thanks for your participation and I hope you enjoy the site.

Adam 27 Aug 2005, 14:46

Wurm - sorry, I accidentally posted my thanks to you on another thread. Apologies and once more, bravo!!!

Hansel 27 Aug 2005, 02:42

How would this work if one posts either from a home or work based computer?

DWV 27 Aug 2005, 01:24

I didn't mean to prevent multiple IDs from a single IP, or to restrict an ID to a specific IP. Just provide some indication that a name usually comes from some other IP. I dunno how practical it is to automate that; maybe your new arrangement is better.

But, it would be kind of interesting to know when by some wild coincidence more than one person just happens to post from a single IP.

Wurm 26 Aug 2005, 17:20

Thanks Filthy, I appreciate that.

Adam, your username is now set up to authenticate.

Filthy McNasty 26 Aug 2005, 16:49

Wurm, I will assist as far as I am able.

Adam 26 Aug 2005, 16:03

(The real one this time)

Someone's playing games again and using my name to make mischief - sorry to Worm. Is there any chance of the authentic Adam getting your seal of recognition? If so what do I do?

Thank you.

Puffin 26 Aug 2005, 15:06

I think I'd like to be as anonymous as possible.

Wurm 26 Aug 2005, 14:29


Interesting ideas. I've thought of providing some abbreviated or hashed version of the IP address. And the one user per address idea is certainly worthy of consideration. However, it's good to keep in mind that a fair percentage of people still use services that share IP addresses and/or assign a new IP each time the user logs in. Given the fuzziness of the information, it might cause more harm than good.

I've pondered other solutions, such as simply charging for access and providing each paid user a single login. But I've always liked the relatively open and freeform environment here and don't mind doing a certain amount of manual administration in order to retain it. A more likely next step would be to offer review/deletion tools to a few moderators (like the old UBB we had up previously).

DWV 26 Aug 2005, 12:20

So, how difficult would it be to flag posts which use a different name than had been previously associated with that IP?

Or maybe you could display, if not the IP, then some number that is derived from and unique to that IP.

In case my intent is not obvious, I think this might discourage people from posting under multiple personas.

LikeGlass 26 Aug 2005, 11:42

I like this! Good work!

(btw, this one comes from work so the IP is not my usual one. )

Filthy McNasty 26 Aug 2005, 08:26

"Duh, Wurm, what about us other guys?"

Anyway, nice touch and a good solution to what has become a problem for some people. Hopefully not too difficult for you to initiate.

Wurm 26 Aug 2005, 06:13


Well, how about "thank you"?

But beyond that you may want to reread my post:

> If you think you would need or want this authentication, let me know and I will check the site logs to see if you qualify.

Wurm 26 Aug 2005, 06:08

Thanks for the nice feedback Julian. It's not a complete solution, as you note, but should help somewhat.

Adam 26 Aug 2005, 06:05

Well, that's ok for you two - but what about the rest of us who keep your site going. Don't we deserve something too?

Julian 26 Aug 2005, 05:55

Hey, thanks Wurm, I really like that! Just one thing though, I'm away from home for the next week, so anything I post will be from a strange computer...field day for all the pseudoJulians ::)

Wurm 26 Aug 2005, 04:45

I've added a post authentication feature. Just click on my nickname to check it out.

I can set this up for any user posting from a connection that supplies a stable IP address (most broadband connections do this, as far as I know).

In theory, the link could point to something individualized like a user profile.

Julian and I are the only ones set up now. If you think you would need or want this authentication, let me know and I will check the site logs to see if you qualify.

Original Tony 20 Aug 2005, 02:03

Thanks Julian

Julian 19 Aug 2005, 18:37

Original Tony: Sorry, I gave you the wrong address ::( Try julianmungo(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk

ehpc 19 Aug 2005, 14:31

But I'm your favourite Elizabeth:) And I just want you to wear your TRUE prescription that is special for YOU:)See you in November:) Pete XXX

Ted 19 Aug 2005, 08:45


Which site do you refer to as having problems?, If you mean EYESCENE I have been on it for the last three days without any problems.And yes we all owe a big thank you to Wurm for all of his hard work on this site.

Elizabeth 19 Aug 2005, 08:28

O where, o where have all of the glasses lovers gone, o where, o where can they be?....Shopping for designer frames to put in those high minus lenses so that they can look at you and me!

Hello to all of my glasses loving community members, the site is having problems today as it has for the last 3 days. When you have something that you look forward to every day and it is not there any more you appreciate so much more than you know. So my point here is to say hi and thank each one of you and the Admin that is responsible for this site( when it is up).

I just love my -25 glasses in the black plastic rounded rectangular Kate Spade frames, they are so special to meand they give me such a sense of fulfillment and happiness and sexual excitement when I wear them, I never would have purchased them if I was not aware of this site/community

Thanks to all of you who I have met over the last 2 years on the chat, there are so many I have not met that have posted thier stories and interests that I look forward to getting to know.



("""""[(((( o ))))]=[(((( o ))))]""""")

Julian 15 Aug 2005, 09:30

Original Tony: If the unfinished story you have in mind is the 'legendary unfinished story of Jimmy', there's a link to it on the Yahoo group, gayglassesfetish fiction. To join, email The story is posted there as Dominic left it. If you are the Tony who continued the story in a slightly different vein (or so I thought!) or even if you aren't, I have the additions archived and can let you have them. Mail me: julianmungo(at)ntlworld(dot)com

Val 15 Aug 2005, 06:47

Original Tony, Wurm deleted all the fantasy threads. There is no "Unfinished Story" thread any more.

Original Tony 14 Aug 2005, 16:40

Hi guys,

How to get to access the "unfinished story' thread ?

Pippi 13 Aug 2005, 10:39

Yeah Julian, I got the story, thanks very much! It's nice to hear someone liked it enough to keep it! p x

yo yo 12 Aug 2005, 21:34

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Julian 12 Aug 2005, 04:15

Anyone know what's become of Electra? Her site has gone quiet for ages and she isn't answering emails.

Emily 11 Aug 2005, 22:48

Did anyone watch Conan O'Brien tonight? He invented new state slogans. For instance: "Come visit Colorado. Our mountains look like boobs -- if you're nearsighted."

Bobby 06 Aug 2005, 06:15

1. Question:

As I changed the design of the old archive, I am thinking about uploading the files in a new format. A friend of us renamed all the files by their main topics. Do you think it might be useful to replace the old files with the renamed files? Mail me to

2. Puffin: OK, mail it to me when your mail server works well.

Puffin 04 Aug 2005, 02:40

Hello Bobby, I tried to send you some stories but Yahoo was playing games with me, I'll try again soon, ok?

Bobby - update 04 Aug 2005, 00:40

I have uploaded the August files at my website

There are 2 new stories by Specs4ever, 2 stories by Specfiend from my archive, 1 story by an unknown author, 1 brand new story by BPHG, and a new section with wheelchair and brace stories from two of the best writers of the genre JohnA and BobD. Some troubles with fonts and format were also fixed.

Come and enjoy. 8-)

Wurm 03 Aug 2005, 09:42

Silly season has arrived once again. Strange how minds prone to splintering seem to do it concurrently. New moon perhaps?

I've cleaned up a batch of bogus posts -- my apologies for any legitimate posts that may have been deleted.

Julian 01 Aug 2005, 16:28

Pippi: did you get the emails OK? I had to break the story into parts.

Pippi 27 Jul 2005, 17:20

Thanks Julian that's great! I have sent you an email so if you can just sent it to that address that would be fantastic! Pippi

Julian 27 Jul 2005, 10:13

Pippi: I have a copy of your story 'Soulmates' by Specfiend which I really liked. I'll gladly email it if you send an address - julianmungo(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk

Pippi 27 Jul 2005, 02:43

Hiya I wasn't sure where to post this, but I had a favour to ask. I came on a previous incarnation of this site a few years ago, both under this name to do regular posting, and also under the name Specfiend where I posted some (often slightly weird, I admit) fiction. I know that one of my old stories is now on Bobby's website but I'm trying to track down two other stories I wrote, in particular one about a girl who found out she needed glasses and then happened to meet two really cute bespectacled guys who happened to be brothers. I can;t even remember what it was called, but I have no copy of it myself and would really like to read it again! Sounds mad, doesn't it? If anyone has any idea if it is floating around somewhere, it would be great if you could let me know! Thanks, P. x

help wanted 24 Jul 2005, 18:36

Anomynous 20 Jul 2005, 15:16

Forgive me for that last post. I won't make any other posts like it.

Anomynous 16 Jul 2005, 21:43

Chris Mitchell is too shrewd for his own good. Sooner or later it will catch up with him, so you better watch out!

tortoise 16 Jul 2005, 20:01

Tonight, a Google search directed me to the laughingsquid "sightings" thread. Man the threads are immense on this forum!

Anyway, I wonder whether anyone would like to answer the question:

Which is your favourite eyescene thread?

Mine is definitely "sightings". I only wish I could contribute more to it but living in a small town my sightings are severely limited.

For me, other good ones are "GOC", though there is not a lot of activity there, "seen on the web, and "lots of links".

I seriously doubt that equally rich and lively forums such as eyescene exist for other special interest communities. I feel lucky indeed that this excellent venue is here for me and all the others that share this interest.

Thanks Wurm!.

BLOCKED 15 Jul 2005, 10:07

Wurm aka Chris Mitchell why are you still blocking my home computer's access to your site? Have some mercy, please relent!!!

Wurm 15 Jul 2005, 10:02

I fixed a very minor bug in how new threads are being written out. As a result, the "New Glasses" thread has been renumbered from 47 to 46. I don't expect there to be any problems as a result, but please post here if you see the BBS acting up.

Danny 07 Jul 2005, 11:13

I guess I'm lucky. Got to Liverpool Street station this morning and decided to walk to Moorgate as it was a nice morning.

So I'm sitting in an Internet cafe, sending e-mails around the world.

God knows how I'm going to get home tonight - but frankly - I don't care.

DNBursky 07 Jul 2005, 09:43

My thoughts and prayers go out to our British friends on this day of horrible tragedy. Hopefully justice will prevail in the future. This American extends his symathies.


Bobby - 2 new stories by S4E 02 Jul 2005, 01:46

I have just uploaded 2 new stories by Specs4ever on my website

The Orphan, and Anothers Tale are very good. Read and enjoy.

TC 23 Jun 2005, 13:10

LensChat has returned, and yes, it's back to the "phpMyChat" application everyone liked. And even better news, all of your logins made the transfer as well!

Phil 21 Jun 2005, 02:38

Hi Katy. How r u? Hope all is well. Glad u r keeping up your optical interests!

Katy 21 Jun 2005, 02:33

Thanks TC - I had tried AOL and IE, and neither worked, so I'll download that :-)

Fred 20 Jun 2005, 10:37

After getting used to it I really start loving this new java chat. So if you ask me you can leave it this way. To my experience, Firefox works fine, I did not try IE.

spexman the original one 20 Jun 2005, 09:01

spexman the original one 18 Jun 2005, 12:57


Maybe this is more correct tread.

I´m just wondering...There was a tread before with stories...Hmm called if I remember a group called fiction or something where have they gone ?? There was some good ones I never downloaded and saved...



TC 20 Jun 2005, 08:45

It's a Java based chat site, if you don't have a browser that can handle Java you might want to try a different one, perhaps Firefox? Or just visit and download the latest version of Java.

I hope to get our old site back up soon, I've had some difficulty contacting someone here who offered free bandwidth for it again.

Katy 20 Jun 2005, 06:25

I get the same - a blank page with a small red cross in the corner :-(

Daisy 20 Jun 2005, 05:35

What's with lenschat?

Joe '2' 18 Jun 2005, 14:58

Sorry Joe, (the post before mine), I didn't notice your name there, I'd have used a different name otherwise.

Joe 18 Jun 2005, 14:56

When trying to log into the 'temporary' lenschat, which TC has kindly put up, I get the following;

A blank white page, although at the bottom are two buttons, an 'icons' and 'save chat-transcript' one, but nothing else. If my computer was directing me there correctly, (I'm assuming it's not!?), what should I be getting on my screen.

Any help, please?

Joe 17 Jun 2005, 08:11

Puffin, that's just plain weird

Puffin 17 Jun 2005, 02:53

Help, I'm getting interested in non-GWG's again. I don't understand it at all.

ehpc 15 Jun 2005, 08:11


ELIZABETH WHERE ARE YOU????????????????????????????? I miss you. We can't chat now and you never e-mail me........................thanks for the phone number................only problem is there is never anyone there................I want to come to CA. Think of the fun we'd have:) Pete XXX

Fred 14 Jun 2005, 11:38

Just giving the complete link, since my browser is not always redirecting me there:

TC 12 Jun 2005, 08:50

I'll be working on it, but the temporary fix for right now is a free LensChat room hosted by "ThePlanet" you're right. It's a room just for us, feel free to use it.

I was able to get a full backup of the user database from the old site before it went down, so if server space/bandwidth issues get figured out again I can restore the site exactly as it was.

Bobby finished the update 11 Jun 2005, 17:46

I have finished the big June update of my website by adding 4 more stories written by Specs4ever (there are 110 stories by S4E already). I hope I will have time to translate some more stories into Czech in summer.

If any of you wants to publish stories you write, feel free sending me the texts to

ehpc 11 Jun 2005, 14:01

Yes...................I get some silly link to 'Planet' or something.............anyway we know you will fix it ASAP TC!Pete

Fred 11 Jun 2005, 13:56

I'm really missing Lenschat... Will it come back online soon?

Ree 10 Jun 2005, 23:46

hi Yeun,

thats great,, you are already married and settled down,, thats really good news.

What about your myopia,, i remember u being a very high myope,, whats your current Rx now and what sort of glasses are u wearing.

TC 10 Jun 2005, 09:19

Working on getting Lenschat back up...

 10 Jun 2005, 08:21

Does anyone know what happened to Lens Chat? I get a message "Account Suspended." Maybe he didn't pay his bill.

Yeun Ming 06 Jun 2005, 13:10

I now have a little boy, age 3 and it looks like he is myopic. I have an appoitment for him this week.

Christy 05 Jun 2005, 23:24

I'm still here - not posting much - buit look in every so often.

Julie 05 Jun 2005, 04:30

Hi Chris, will be around on MSN this week coming,


Ree 04 Jun 2005, 20:28

Hello julie and Yuen Ming,,

Ho are you both. nice to see you all here after a long time,, welcome back.

Ree 04 Jun 2005, 20:20

Hello julie and Yuen Ming,,

Ho are you both. nice to see you all here after a long time,, welcome back.

chrisb 04 Jun 2005, 16:02

Hi Julie,

had tried a couple off weeks ago to find you on msn messenger on your old email - but great to see you are around. will try again over the next few days.


Julie 04 Jun 2005, 01:49

Sorry my fingers are not typing well this morning yuen-ming!

Julie 04 Jun 2005, 01:47

Hi there Yeung meng, I remember you!

Yuen-Ming 03 Jun 2005, 20:12


I'm here~ from the old days.


Julie 03 Jun 2005, 10:52

Hi there, any of the people who used to post in the old days still around? Particularly Owen, Sid, Alexa, Christy...I'd love a chat sometime....Love Julie from Herts England. Just got told yesterday that I am over wearing the contacts!!

Tammy 15 May 2005, 17:53

First of all, i apologize to Wurm for using alot of bandwidth with that last post. Secondly, i hope i didn't spoil the movie for everyone else by telling about it.

Tammy 14 May 2005, 20:18

I saw the movie "Kicking and Screaming" tonight, and it's about soccer of all things. Anyway, there's a scene in it when the soccer coach realizes that his goalie can't see very well, so he turns to the parents and grabs all of the parents's eyeglasses off them, and runs to the kid that's having trouble seeing, and holds the glasses up to the kids eyes one pair at a time, and asks "Can you see better or worse with these and then after about 3 pairs the kid says that he can see better with the glasses. The coach puts these huge black frames on this kid and the kid smiles as they start to play soccer again. That's the end of the glasses scene, but i just laughed and laughed, since i knew that sounded so OO to me! The rest of the movie was good too. Take care, Tammy.

Trent 14 May 2005, 16:50

The previous message has nothing to do with glasses or vision.

hdfsghsd 14 May 2005, 05:48

Great site <a href

Filthy McNasty 07 May 2005, 06:07

Please Don't Feed The Trolls.

Friend 06 May 2005, 22:27

Perhaps Rumbling Ruse ought to be banned from ES too. Let me know when the trial is so I can testify on Wurm and Eyescene's behalf.

 06 May 2005, 12:58

..................Grumbling Bruise..........

Rumbling Ruse 06 May 2005, 09:39

screw u jerk, i got a hs diploma. dont use my name again or ill soo u

Rumbling Ruse 06 May 2005, 04:13

not only i behaved good but i also a dummy with a kndergarden edication

Rumbling Ruse 05 May 2005, 15:48

i behaved good

Julian 05 May 2005, 15:34

Rumbling Ruse: if you are stupid enough to think you can sue LensChat for barring you after the way you behaved, you'd better find out who runs it, 'cos it isn't Wurm.

Rumbling Ruse 05 May 2005, 13:19

yes a jerk called worm & he is one, couldnt b a better name 4 him

kafe 05 May 2005, 11:36

Hi Sad Ruse man,

You are remembering me no?

I am missing you, I think you very very small mind.

Every is here to see you sad, sad, person.

You have life no.

You are English using Bad.

You Ruse are going somewhere else, should be now.

Ruse you try

This is a website cool.

It is as empty as you.

Bye Bye Sad Sad sad man, I am crying for sure you have returned.

TC 05 May 2005, 09:49

A jerk runs Lenschat? Hmmm, I'll have to look in to that hehe :-)

Rooz 05 May 2005, 04:14

Ruse, a fue lessens in speling woodn't hert eether.

 04 May 2005, 23:23

Ruse, it would've been better if you'd read books on English Grammar!

Rumbling Ruse 04 May 2005, 17:50

i got banished by the jerk who runs lenschat & i aint done nuthing bad & i am protesting. i am also going to soo, when i wuz in jail i used to read the books in the law librey & i can figger out how 2 soo, its discrimenation 4 no good reason. i hearby call upon all good citizens 2 boy cot lenschat so they learns a lessen in fare play.

Julian 27 Apr 2005, 08:37

I guess if anyone has access it will be Lady Eddy who posted to this thread on 8 October to tell us of his death six weeks before. Wurm, do you have any way of contacting her?

Eddy's email address was

Puffin 27 Apr 2005, 03:36

I suppose you'd need the username and password or something like that to get into the account he used. As for permission, I'm not complaining if someone takes the time and trouble to do a good site.

Goober 26 Apr 2005, 23:18

I notice that Eddy's original site doesn't seem to be up any more. The celebrities site seems to still be there but no updates for a long time. I wonder if it would be possible for somebody to take it over and update it. It's very good. How would you go about it. Would you need somebody's permission. Who would that be.

Tod 26 Apr 2005, 08:51

Wurm has had my ISP and router blocked for over two months now. I am nor sure why? I would hope he would restore my access very soon. Thanks.

Danny 23 Apr 2005, 15:43


tod 18 Apr 2005, 07:11

Wurm has had my ISP and router blocked for over two months now. I am nor sure why? I would hope he would restore my access very soon. Thanks.

Andrew 09 Apr 2005, 13:23

I've just had my first chat on the "new" format spoiled by an impostor. I know nothing about bandwidths, but if we can return to some form of registration, that would be most welcome. I was trying to give some useful ideas, while someone pretending to be me was making stupid comments...

TC 07 Apr 2005, 18:59


As you may have noticed, we are doing a bandwidth reduction test, 24 hours with an alternate chat application to see if it makes a difference. More updates to come, but LensChat will live on, fear not!

TC 07 Apr 2005, 17:37

Really LG? I was figuring it was still just serving that small HTML page of the current chat content (10 lines or whatever)... everytime it refreshed, so I thought the bandwidth would be very similar via either system.

Perhaps I'll run some testing on that, plus I've received an offer for server help which I'll look in to as well.


LikeGlass 07 Apr 2005, 17:22

TC, maybe it's time to dust off and revamp the original HTML version of lenschat. Sure it was primitive, but nothing can touch it for bandwidth efficiency! The current system php code wedge is loaded whenever someone drops in and clocks against your bandwidth usage. The result is that 95% of bandwidth usage is support systems, and only 5% is actual chat. Just a thought.

TC 07 Apr 2005, 13:51


I just got unfortunate news from my ISP, it appears LensChat has been putting quite a load on their systems and the bandwidth was too high. The chat will probably go offline briefly over the next few days as I search for lower bandwidth alternatives for the room, else they will force it offline completely.

If you have any ideas of low bandwidth/server demand scripts or hosting options you're willing to offer please e-mail shoot an email to "admin" at the domain ""

Dave 30 Mar 2005, 12:44

Thanks BESF!

Tod 30 Mar 2005, 06:19

This and the proceding post was made over a public server.

Tod 30 Mar 2005, 06:18

Wurm has had my ISP and router blocked for over two months now. I am nor sure why? I would hope he would restore my access very soon. Thanks.

Puffin 29 Mar 2005, 07:47

This is still the first site I visit when surfing.

Wurm 27 Mar 2005, 07:14

Thanks BESF, that's very kind. Eight years and counting!

big ES fan 27 Mar 2005, 04:22


I want to thank you for Eye Scene and all of the effort that you put into it. It's my favorite site on the net. I also want to thank Dave and all of the others who take the time to find and post so many links.

Wurm 26 Mar 2005, 16:16

Posting was not working for a few hours but is back now. Sorry for any inconvenience!

still 09 Mar 2005, 10:31

It was a fine site, Puffin. Thanks for all the enjoyable content! I'll certainly miss it.

Puffin 09 Mar 2005, 06:12

I just shut down my site.

Puffin 07 Mar 2005, 15:46

PS I forgot to mention, I just moved house and BT just hooked my phone line up today, I've missing all this! :(

Puffin 07 Mar 2005, 15:20

That's because they've all swallowed the "thin-is-great" line.

High Myope Lover 07 Mar 2005, 03:18

Hello, I live in Wyoming a place where you rarely see anyone wearing thick myopic eyeglasses. If anyone living in Wyoming is a thick glasses wearer or is interested in strong glasses please contact me. Yahoo Messenger dalton024200

Tammy 02 Mar 2005, 11:18

Hi. I just wanted to let you all know that i'm not going to be online much for the next 2 weeks. My 40th birthday is next wednesday, so i am going out of town to celebrate it. I will enjoy catching up with everything when i return.

 02 Mar 2005, 03:15

OMG! there should have been: 2 (two) new excellent stories by S4E! Sorry for the typo.

Bobby 02 Mar 2005, 03:14

The March update of my website brings you 1 new excellent stories written by Specs4ever, 17 new stories by Amy Casseaux, and 1 poem by the female author from our friendly tribe. See by yourself.

Julian 22 Feb 2005, 04:01

...not to mention NoNames. And it's Free from all those ::)

Julian 22 Feb 2005, 03:59

Wurm discontinued the old lenschat, and now there's a new one, ree from lurkers and abusers. Click on the link on the front page and register.

Daisy 22 Feb 2005, 03:04

What's happened to lenschat? Or is it me and my PC?

Cheerful Charlie 28 Jan 2005, 01:39

I mean for the whole of Eyesceen, not particular pages.

 28 Jan 2005, 01:13

Just use Control + F

Cheerful Charlie 27 Jan 2005, 23:46

Is there a way I can search old postings using the name of the person who made the posting?

Andrew 18 Jan 2005, 15:08

I finally made it into the new Lenschat. Thanks for your help!

Andrew 18 Jan 2005, 12:16

The common theme seems to be the AOL browser. I shall see if I can work out how to try something else.

Puffin 17 Jan 2005, 17:42

Of course I'll still be around. You don't put me off glasses that easily!

Puffin 17 Jan 2005, 17:41

I shall put up the last of my photos over the next couple of weeks, then leave it for a bit and then delete the lot.

If I do end up having time to do the things I'd like to do, then maybe I might try again - but no promises.

Gremlin 17 Jan 2005, 12:21

Katy, Melyssa:

Thanks for the information on how to get past the sign in screen for Lens Chat, or even how to successfully post a message here on EyeScene BBS. After several weeks of being completely shut out from both forums, I decided that my computer memory or hard drive was causing the problem.

This was not the case at all. At your suggestion, I tried using Internet Explorer. I.E. provides quick and effective access. My AOL browser simply does not let me connect to either posting page at all. It worked several months ago, but it does not work now. I have switched to I.E.

still 17 Jan 2005, 11:42

Whatever you decide, Puffin, we value what you've done, and your presence here. Will you be leaving your site on-line, or taking it off, and, if so, when? Will you continue to be a member of this group? Any way, thank you for all the pleasure you've shared here...

Puffin 17 Jan 2005, 04:32

It is with great sadness that I must announce that I am going to have to close my site. It must be obvious to those who have seen it that I haven't been doing much on it recently. Finding spare time in the last few months has been just about impossible. It's not that I'm short on ideas for stories - I've got a whole list. The main thing is that I've got no time to look for decent glasses pictures. They seem to be getting harder and harder to find.

I shall put up whatever photos I have in February, and that will be it.

Sorry, I did my best, and it was fun, but I've had to admit defeat. :(

Julian 14 Jan 2005, 08:45

Electra - assuming you can read this though you can't post - are you ever going to post those photos I sent you for Julian's Gallery?

Love and kisses, Jules.

Melyssa 14 Jan 2005, 04:41


You can also use Netscape 7.0 or greater. I use that a lot more than I.E.

Katy 13 Jan 2005, 14:05

Andrew - are you using a recent version of Internet Explorer? Changing to that worked for me - I was having the same problem, and I was using the AOL browser.

Andrew 13 Jan 2005, 13:59

I still cannot get past the log-in screen to the new lens chat. Any advice, please, as I feel I am losing touch with the regulars on the old format!

Ted 13 Jan 2005, 13:54

can someone please explain why Electra is not allowed to post a message to this format. I know the server will not allow it but what is the reason?

Any comments from Wurm on this?

Katy 13 Jan 2005, 13:47

Electra has added a new story to her site - 'The Quick Way' - induced myopia with PRK..

Buddy 13 Jan 2005, 05:59

What I like the best about eyescene is when people write in and discuss their visual history. I certainly enjoy reading about their progression from a mild prescription to a strong prescription with emphasis on the eye test and the results. I think a new thread such as "Eye History" should be set up. I am sure others are just as much interested in this as I was. I was hoping Julie would post more, but that suddenly stopped leaving us wondering. So something along those lines would be nice.

Katy 09 Jan 2005, 06:54

from Electra.. coming up on TV.. the classic episode of Happy Days where Fonzie is prescribed glasses! He is afraid that glasses aren't 'cool' and refuses to wear them. 'Sight for Sore Eyes', 30 minutes -

Thu Jan 20 09:00A on TVLand

Fri Jan 21 04:30A on TVLand

Socks 04 Jan 2005, 23:44

I was just thinking that it would be nice if there was a particular place on here to post "diary" type entries like Emily had done that has since been erased. Julie also had several diary type stories that stopped, as have a couple of others in various random places. I like reading those memories of getting glasses and the progression of prescriptions. Emily's was nice to read every few months and I wish it would have been continued. Any thoughts?

Bobby 03 Jan 2005, 16:18

Website updated. 2 new stories by S4E.

Johnnyb555 31 Dec 2004, 21:39

Yup, happy new year to all :-)

Tammy 31 Dec 2004, 21:25

Happy New Year to everyone, and Merry 2005! :)

Trent 31 Dec 2004, 19:17

May everyone have a happy, safe and prosperous New Year!

Bobby 31 Dec 2004, 16:32

Happy New Year 2005.

Be good, keep your glasses clean, and never stop thinking.

Slit 29 Dec 2004, 02:58

Thanks guys.

Jennifer 28 Dec 2004, 10:51

We are praying for those that were affected by that great earthquake. Our thoughts are with you all.

Bobby 27 Dec 2004, 02:53

Slit, sorry to hear about the tragedy of your country.

Friends, let us think about those whose Christmas are not as happy as ours.

Slit 26 Dec 2004, 16:54


Im writting from Sri Lanka, the country which is worst hit by the tidal waves created by the 8.9 Earth quake in Sumathra.

About 4000 people are dead and over one million people are dislocated.

Sri Lanka is a poor country.

Please assist us in this terrible situation if possible.

 26 Dec 2004, 12:04

Nov shmoz kapop.

Bobby 25 Dec 2004, 07:52

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2005.

Vesele Vanoce a stastny novy rok 2005.

Shukar karatchonya the bahtalo nevo bersh 2005.

Puffin 24 Dec 2004, 09:46

Merry christmas everyone!

Bobby 15 Dec 2004, 16:14

Oh, sorry, I forgot to add my URL. It is

Bobby 15 Dec 2004, 16:12

I added some new stories to my web site too. :-)

I found one old story by Spec4ever on my old harddisk, uploaded one new story by Stingray, and corrected the name of the author of one of old stories, a very good one BTW, whose author proved to be our old friend Stingray aka Eye Write, so I decided to look thrught the old harddisk once more and uploaded another story by him "An Optical Seduction".

Katy 14 Dec 2004, 10:13

Electra has added a new story, 'A Learning Curve', to her site.

Remo 13 Dec 2004, 18:06

Happy Feast of the Pig to the people of the village of Sinanju!

Trent 13 Dec 2004, 16:45

What happened to our sponsor optical4less?

Tammy 11 Dec 2004, 19:34

Merry Christmas to you all, and Happy Hannakah to those of you who are Jewish!

Slit 11 Dec 2004, 19:22

Merry Christmas and Happy new Year from Sri Lanka.

still 11 Dec 2004, 09:56

Oops! And Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to everyone who comes here, and to our kind host, Wurm.

still 11 Dec 2004, 09:54

Julian, have a wonderful holiday season and a happy and healthy Hew Year!!

Brian-16 11 Dec 2004, 06:05

Julian-Merry Christmas to you and all your good people "over-there".There is just too much politics in the USA screwing up the holiday,and more and more folks here are just saying "Happy Holidays" instead...

Julian 10 Dec 2004, 23:49

Yes. Wurm, Filthy and all my online friends, gay and straight: have a happy - as far as I'm concerned it's Christ-Mass!

Love and kisses, Jules.

Wurm 10 Dec 2004, 21:59

Thanks Filthy!! Many happy returns to you and season's greetings to all.

Alm 10 Dec 2004, 09:05

Hi Katy how are u?

Hope everything is ok, I look forward to meet u once in Lens Chat.

A big kiss for u darling....

Filthy McNasty 10 Dec 2004, 08:41

To all the old-timers here (especially Julian, NJ, and our kindand invaluable host Mr. Wurm), and to the newer participants that continue to make this site interesting: Holiday greetings from me, whether or not you celebrate anything this time of year.

Katy 10 Dec 2004, 08:04

Electra has added Part Two for the story 'Simon', and also updated the links in the hardcore section.

Pete 05 Dec 2004, 17:10

There are people that discuss induced strab. on the chat ocassionally.

 05 Dec 2004, 03:08

Maybe you should add a thread for inducing straubismus.

Wurm 04 Dec 2004, 21:42

OK, it should be safe to post again.

Wurm 04 Dec 2004, 21:22

I'm moving some files around, so any posts in the next half hour or so may be lost. I'll post again when the transfer is done.

TC 04 Dec 2004, 07:44

188 Registered users and growing :-)

Katy  30 Nov 2004, 09:33

-oo- - there was no change in the prescription. But it is only 2 months since the last one :-)

Wurm 30 Nov 2004, 09:20

As the Optical4Less sponsorship period draws to a close, I'd like to thank Albert for supporting the site and for offering visitors interesting products and competitive prices.

-oo- 29 Nov 2004, 17:24

so what was the outcome, katy?

Katy 29 Nov 2004, 16:53

Andrew - I was doing that today with the optician - had to go because my eye was hurting like mad and looked very evil. I was saying things like 'its on the white bit' - and I've done half a year of an optometry course! Anyway she said 'I'm afraid we'll have to do a full eye test' (he he).. luckily I had thought to wear my old glasses instead of the too-strong ones because she took them away to see how strong they were - that could have been very embarrassing :-)

Andrew 29 Nov 2004, 12:44

"trying to talk about glasses with someone without sounding just a little too interested or knowledgeable..."

I think this must be one of the hardest things for those of us who have been around here for a while. I can talk about what it's like to be shortsighted from my own experience, but I can also talk about being longsighted, having astigmatism, bi-focals, prisms etc. from what I have read. It's quite a challenge, but it does enable me to ask questions with a vague idea of the response before I've heard it. I think it's the part where I ask about the prescription which might give me away as an OO...

leelee 29 Nov 2004, 12:28

Julian- maybe the hyperope discovers he was adopted from circus folk, just like his big brother told him!

Katy 29 Nov 2004, 11:06

Leelee - wow! You should write some stories with ideas like that :-)

Katy 29 Nov 2004, 11:05

Leelee - wow! You should write some stories with ideas like that :-)

Julian 29 Nov 2004, 10:30

Hey thanks leelee - there are topic there I have used, others I might, others I shan't in this story but shall keep in case I write another. Basically the 'hero' is the one hyperope in an all-myopic family. Eventually you might get to read it.

Love and kisses, Jules.

leelee 29 Nov 2004, 07:14

Jules - here are some random things you might use for your story (no pressure!):

- the experience of being told you need glasses even tho it seems like you have perfect vision (your eyes just get tired when you work too much, right?)

- not getting +glasses even tho you really need them.

- contemplating the idea of wearing +glasses all the time even tho you can function well without them at all, and wondering if it would potentially ruin your eyesight (and possibly not caring)

- what it feels like when you first get +glasses, the oddness of seeing distance out of focus, the woozy feeling, the oddness of seeing everything bigger.

- an almost sensation of 3-D (because things are sharp up to mid distance, and then suddenly falls into blur - much like the old kiddy 3-d viewers.

- the panic you feel when you see your glasses - on the table in the optical shop, and on your face. worries about what people will think, that they will think you are "old" even if you are quite young.

- feelings of concern that getting glasses and changing the way you see might change the way you are, or the way you work - especially if you are a visual artist.

- the secret glee you feel when you start to notice other people with +glasses.

- descriptions of how the lenses distort the side of ones face when someone sees you wearing them, and how they distort images in the distance behind you when soeone sees you wearing them.

- that freaky light triangle that gets projected when light falls on them (so you see the shadow of the person wearing them with this bright refractive spike of light pointing to the eye of the shadow caster.

- what it feels like to slowly be able to see in the distance of new +glasses.

- threats of bifocals.

- what drives one to seek an eye exam?

- the experience of switching to strong +glasses after wearing contacts for a long time, then suddenly showing up in strong glasses.

- trying to talk about glasses with someone without sounding just a little too interested or knowledgeable...

- the realization that your are wearing glasses all the time, and can no longer read without them.

- that sort of "excited" feeling you get when you put them on.

that's all I can think of right now - hth. looking forward to your new story.

Julian 29 Nov 2004, 00:53

I'm struggling with a hyperopic story (gay ambience of course) but don't know when it will see the light of day. I'll send it to Izzy for his Yahoo! group.

Love and kisses, Jules.

hooked 28 Nov 2004, 23:54


Write your own stories. Just to date I have written two but they are in German as this is my mother language.

Wurm 28 Nov 2004, 19:35

I've deleted another batch of posts by an individual who would wish us to believe that he is various young women who require advice about multifocals.

One personality per person, please. My apologies to anyone who may have been taken in by the ruse -- those responses have been deleted too.

Slit 23 Nov 2004, 18:22


Theres a lack of HYPEROPIC stories.

I would love to read them.

Bobby 23 Nov 2004, 17:08

For faster access to the stories wrtten by Specs4ever click this:

 23 Nov 2004, 12:13


Can't seem to get to the new stories on your site... loads really slow and doesn't ever make it to the story since you added the new ones.

Will Shakespeare 22 Nov 2004, 18:57

Congratulations Bobby - and S4E! Can't compete with that magnificent output, but my few stories featuring Will Shakespeare the gay optometrist have been re-posted, courtesy of Izzy, at - along with other stories by Izzy himself and others.

Love and kisses, Jules.

ONE HUNDRED STORIES 22 Nov 2004, 17:46

The number of stories written by Spec4ever and publish for your plasure at my website has reached the amazing nuber of 100 (one hundred). Go, read, and have fun.

Myopically yours


LikeGlass 21 Nov 2004, 15:22

Little more info- My old laptop running windows ME has no problems with the room. Looks like something to do with XP SP1, yet it used to work!

LikeGlass 21 Nov 2004, 14:54


On Lens Chat, running XP SP1 here and last week chat ran fine. This week, the cursor will not stay in the text box, and I have to keep putting it back there with my mouse. It looses it on the refresh. Almost like the old object oriented code "set focus" command that is not defaulting back to the text box. Any thoughts?

Val 15 Nov 2004, 09:52

I said that if Aliena can't enter Electra's site it's because some software on Aliena's computer is blocking the access. I had such experiences. Could be an anti-spam protection software, or, like I previously said, a firewall.

 14 Nov 2004, 13:40


Val 13 Nov 2004, 11:08

It's possible that some software (could be an antivirus software or a firewall) blocks access to addresses that contain words like "fetish". Or the browsers security settings are set to high.

specs4ever 13 Nov 2004, 10:49

Hi Electra and all. I just heard from Aliena, who tells me that for some reason or another her IP address is also blocked. I don't know how that happens, but I was wondering if there are others as well who can't get in?

Danny 12 Nov 2004, 11:55

TC - don't worry - i chatted fine last night, it must be me.

Liz 12 Nov 2004, 10:39

Katy. wow what a good site, they seem to have some really good solutions for high plus glasses. will go further into this site. many thanks for pointing me in the right direction

Katy 12 Nov 2004, 09:50

Liz - here is the link I was talking about :-)

Danny 10 Nov 2004, 13:06


I can type my name and password into the boxes, wait for the page to load, and then i get back to the screen to add my name and password. And the number of users has increased. (perhaps thats a coincidence)

Julie 10 Nov 2004, 10:55


Get in touch!

I have joined the new chat, may see you all there!

Julie 10 Nov 2004, 10:53

O great to see you are around. Not sure how to get in touch - email me on

Electra 10 Nov 2004, 05:47

Actually, Electra's shadow, as I can't post to the board any more, I think possibly my IP address has been blocked by the Laughing Squid server or something, but that's how it goes, I have to use that IP address, which isn't a normal one (it's a remailer), so that sort of thing goes with the territory.

These are a set of cut & pastes done by a friend for me, to catch up here and announce updates to my website. There's the first of a new batch of stories, some new technical pages etc. and go straight to the News page to get the latest. We also have a form and the usual site feedback. Plus I have a new e-mail address there.

Just wanted to congratulate TC for the new Lens Chat which is awesome, and not at all complicated, it can't be any easier. It gets 100% from me anyway, no anonymous lukrkers, no fecal disturbers, wonderful.

Alm 10 Nov 2004, 03:55

Hi daisy, how are u baby?

There is a new chat room now, the address is:

Join in with your name, I will meet u in there. A big kiss for u

daisy 10 Nov 2004, 03:26

I'm really missing the chat. What's happening? Any news? Hi Emily, Alm, Ash, antonio, and all the others i've been chatting to...even the NoNames.

myhopeinhere 09 Nov 2004, 23:49

yeah,had some good chats in the old days with Julie,Alexa and co

O 09 Nov 2004, 18:45

Wow, Syd and Christie namedropped me, I am very impressed. I am still out here but mostly a lurker these days I'm afraid. Since 1996~ the net in general has been too full of strange people for me to get too close to many of them. I haven't heard from Julie in forever which is a shame.

Thanks Christie/Syd, good to know I made an impression on some of you. Have a pint on me!

Katy 09 Nov 2004, 14:51

Andrew, that is exactly the same problem I had. I got it to work by using a better internet browser - maybe it is something like your browser is out of date. Have you tried it on a different computer?

TC 09 Nov 2004, 14:20

I'm looking in to it.. I've never seen that problem myself so it's kind of hard to pinpoint what the issue might be from the comments. If you ever get to the front page again but can't get past let me know: Does it say other users are logged in? If you hit refresh on the front page does it re-load?

If you can't get to the front page, does this get you anywhere?

Danny 09 Nov 2004, 12:27


I can't get into if i'm at home, i get the log-in screen and type my name and password then - nothing!

if io'm using Internet Explorer I get nothing,

If i'm in AOL i get a page cannot be found, both on the right hand side and in the main chat area, with no place to type anything.

Any suggestions?

Andrew 09 Nov 2004, 12:26

OK, TC. "Register once, log in with your nickname and password and chat away, no complexities at all if you don't want them" - except that I cannot get beyond the log-in screen, and no matter what I do, I come straight back to it. What am I doing wrong?

<.>-<.> 07 Nov 2004, 16:44


<->-<-> 07 Nov 2004, 16:43

things could be worse, you could be drunk on Utica Club beer. LOL!

ehpc 07 Nov 2004, 15:10

It's OK...........I fixed it............Pete

ehpc 07 Nov 2004, 14:53 do you find javascript if it isn't switched on? I am somewhat elementary with computers....................Pete

ehpc 06 Nov 2004, 12:05

Liz I need you in the Chat Pete XXX

Julian 06 Nov 2004, 03:14

No, it wasn't slow to refresh - but it might take two or three refreshes before my post appeared; a bit like answering the last question but three! OK when it was quieter though - but that may be because there was less traffic throughout the system.

Oh, and by the way, I think it was a 15-second refesh on the 'Rusty Hinge'.

TC 06 Nov 2004, 01:15

Not sure about the "slowness" ... I have the refresh set to 7 seconds which I think was about what the refresh on Rusty Hinge was as well. That being said it wouldn't be surprising to see multiple message pop up all at once at the end of the 7 seconds. I'll look in to it though.

And for Liz, do you have Javascript turned on? I'm guessing your browser isn't catching the redirect, try going to:

Julian 05 Nov 2004, 22:56

I found it was slow to repond when there were several people in the chat room - or maybe it was the time of day. Anyway, I'm not complaining.

dave 05 Nov 2004, 20:42

I just signed up too and got my regular nickname. Thanks to everyone who helped set it up.

Tammy 05 Nov 2004, 19:31

TC, i really like the new chat! The problems that i have experienced though, are the fact that my regular chat name is too long and i couldn't register big deal. I registered as Tammy. The other thing was that i couldn't post sometimes. It would let me exit though so i just left and came back in. Thanks. :)

Guest 05 Nov 2004, 15:38

Nothing Liz,

You have been win...

liz 05 Nov 2004, 14:38

Hello Glasses lovers, I have attempted to log on to the new chat however every time I get a blank white screen that does nothing after i click on lens chat, what am I doing wrong?

Please help,


Bart 05 Nov 2004, 09:04

OK TC, very good indeed. Now I'm registered too.

For those who say that's too difficult using this chat: I work in a Internet service provider and I see a lot of different chat rooms day by day, I can tell you this is one of the most simple (and perfectly working) I ever saw.

Come on folks, I'm sure you did more difficult things in your life than surfing the net....

Christy 05 Nov 2004, 07:54

Syd - I remember Alexa (or Alex@) Julie and O - who were there almost full-time when I first found Lens Chat. Have to say I'm a very irregular visitor these days.

ehpc 05 Nov 2004, 06:23

Electra can't post for some reason. So she asks me to say that the new Chat is tops, too:) She also raises an interesting point, which I am sure she will be happy for me to pass on.Before the new TOP CHAT, many people used to post anonymously, impersonate, abuse others etc.Presumably a regular group of the same people.This is not possible in the new Chat.Now,there is now a group of people who arelamenting the demise of the old Chat.Are these two groups by any chance related? I think we should be told. Pete

Syd 05 Nov 2004, 05:44

Hi all,

Not been in for ages. Sorry to see the demise of the chat room. A few years back I was in there all the time. Who remembers Alexa, Julie, O, Penny and the guy from Holland who had his own trial frames ? Are they still out there ? Will try and get back into the routine. BFN

ehpc 05 Nov 2004, 04:51

TC...............Top Chat :) Pete

TC 04 Nov 2004, 20:14

Thanks for the comments, if you can offer any information at all on the difficulties or errors you may have had I will certainly look in to it.

We've currently got 65 registered users over there and I've seen most of them haven't had any problems.

The only reason we require registration is to help prevent names being stolen. I can't imagine why the system would refer to you as Pete... I checked the database and no Tod is registered so you might want to try it again.

The system is honestly not complicated for most users. Register once, log in with your nickname and password and chat away, no complexities at all if you don't want them. It has extra features (colors, etc) but you don't need ot use any of them if you don't desire.

Also, anyone who has any suggestions for a PHP/MySQL chat client they like better feel free to let me know or set up your own server. I set this up just to fill the need and for many users it seems to fit the bill nicely.

I do have the same software as Rusty Hinge also, but most folks seem to much prefer the new software.

LikeGlass 04 Nov 2004, 19:35

Looks like it's working now.

Tod 04 Nov 2004, 17:25

TC, your new lens chat is just too complicated for the average ES user. This includes me, too. I have tried several times to post with the name Tod and your system continues to refer to me as Pete.

We need a new chat room. So if you or someone else can put up one that's easy for everyone to use this would be great.

I also think Wurm should put the old Rusty Hinge back up. Sure there are idiots out there who abuse things. It happens everyday in all endeavors of life. But you don't throw the baby out with the bath water!

Andrew 04 Nov 2004, 14:47

I'm registered, but I can't get into it. I'm also no expert on computers, so any guidance would be most appreciated!

Katy 02 Nov 2004, 07:12

Thanks TC, I have got it to work now - I was using the AOL browser before and that didn't work, but when I tried it with Internet Explorer it was fine. Can't wait to chat to everyone again :)

TC 02 Nov 2004, 06:36

My appologies to Katy and Christy, I'm not really sure what the problem might be.

We've got 35 registered users so far and I've talked with many of them without problems. What you might try is making sure you have a decently updated browser, make sure Javascript is turned on, and make sure your security settings aren't turned up too high. Also, the site uses "pop-up" windows for the registration and displaying user profiles, make sure your "pop-up blocker" doesn't block them.

Let me know if you continue having troubles with it.

Katy 02 Nov 2004, 03:08

TC, thanks for setting that up - am really missing lens chat! I am probably doing something stupid but evry time I type a message it sends me back to the login page. Any ideas? I have registered with a password. Thanks! Katy :)

Julian 02 Nov 2004, 00:10

Funny, I've just logged on and registered.

Love and kisses, Jules.

Christy 01 Nov 2004, 23:55

"Page cannot be displayed..."

TC 01 Nov 2004, 23:32

Thanks, glad it looks like it's working out. I have now turned on the requirement to register before chatting. Feel free to use your usual chat nickname, and remain as anonymous as you'd like with the name fields, etc.

At this point I am *not* requiring a valid e-mail address for registration, as soon as we start having problems with abuse again e-mail addresses will be required for registration. They won't be made public or ever spammed, just used to slow down abuse.

Also, be sure to check out the "Tutorial" file, it has a great "ignore" function, if everyone ignores the abuser they would quickly get bored. Help new visitors how to use the ignore feature.

JB 01 Nov 2004, 22:09


Nice work, glad to see a new chat set up.Let us hope that it is only populated by the majority of decent genuine people who will migrate from Wurm's site.

Tod 01 Nov 2004, 18:05

It seems that Wurm has removed the Lens Chat chat room also know as the Rusty Hinge from this web site. It is unfortnate that a few unthinking indivduals have ruined things for the many who are responsable. I only can hope that Lens Chat will be restored soon with perhaps some form of user registration. I am not however in favor of mass punishment or banning as this only serves to empower the wrong doer in the long run.

LikeGlass 01 Nov 2004, 12:22

Good Job TC! It loads behind a firewall, without requiring Java. Looks like a stable solid code. Anyone can enter, but people who register are acknowledged. Nice handy URL, clean screen... What more could we want!

Bobby 01 Nov 2004, 12:17

OK, lets try that !

Danny 01 Nov 2004, 12:02

TC - we should get our heads together!


for my lenschat replacement!

it's now 5 days old.

email me:

TC 01 Nov 2004, 10:44

For those wishing to chat I have just created:

I have created the room such that registration is optional, but once you're registered with a username it does have a password so it won't be stolen from you.

Many changes will occur in the future including possible changes in chat software, etc.

Note to all: I am *not* trying to take over EyeScene, Wurm has done a wonderful job, just trying to fill where he has chosen to step back.

The Hawk 01 Nov 2004, 10:24

Hi everyone, It was so good chatting with all the people on LC, i miss it already. A quick hi to all my friends on there! Well, i hope an alternate way can be found to restart it. I am not sure if this would work or not, but a yahoo group could be started as everyone would need to log in and the moderator of the group can also limit/restrict membership to the group. A chatroom is available on these sort of groups....its just an idea...hope it would work! Meanwhile, keep posting guys!

Alm 01 Nov 2004, 03:31

Hi everybody, I can't wait that Lens Chat will re-open, I miss the friends I had there but I hope that soon there will not be the problem of the imposters....

I just want to send a big kiss to Melyssa, Electra, Daisy, Emily, Katy, Liz, Mari and say hello to ehpc and Bart.

A special thanks to Tammy for appreciating my english, I hope I will get to know yow better in the next Lens Chat.

Ciao and have a good day

ehpc 01 Nov 2004, 03:00

Well, I have made REAL friends on Chat................Liz, Katy, Jennifer,Ash, Alm, Ree, CopyrightEmily, Electra and many others..............I shall really miss it. I haven't the first idea about computers, but for anyone who wishes to keep in touch with me feel free to write to Any real friend won't mind revealing their e-mail address.Pete

daisy 01 Nov 2004, 02:04


Julian 01 Nov 2004, 00:31

Wurm: I have had more enjoyment than I can say out of EyeScene over the last seven years and am really grateful to you for providing this site. I've been an occasional chatter, but have had some really enjoyable discussions there, and I hope somebody will run a chat room for us. are going to kill off LensChat/Rusty Hinge completely, and not leave it in its present horrid state...aren't you?

Thanks and thanks and more thanks.

Love and kisses, Jules.

JB 31 Oct 2004, 22:14

Sadly it seems as if the imposters and non genuine nonames,there were some very genuine nonames who were always affable and interesting but decided for thier own reasons not to let the rest of us know who they were,have won and chat has been closed.

Maybe Wurm will have a change of heart and reinstate the facility in time.

One thought....maybe on of the regular chatters could administrate the room on Wurms behalf.I would gladly put myself forward for this but i have no experience of these things and would therefore not have a clue how to start.

Anyone have any realistic workable ideas ?

I know i was relatively new to the chat but i can see how a lot of you are missing it.

Wurm 31 Oct 2004, 19:31

For various reasons, I feel able to administer the message board, but not the chat. If any of the alternative chat sites catch on, I'd be happy to link to them.

Thanks to those of you who posted as yourself, were reasonably friendly, and didn't bore us with the same topic over and over.

~ 31 Oct 2004, 19:04

Forget that one. Too slow.

~ 31 Oct 2004, 18:45

There appears to be an unused chat room at:

I have never seen anyone there in a year.

bb 31 Oct 2004, 18:03

Hi friends looks like we have lost our chat room and all outr friends,your welcome to e mail me at

Tod 31 Oct 2004, 06:24

The Rusty Hinge, aka Lens Chat has been out of commission for nearly a week now. I wonder when or if Wurm will get around to repair it. In any event I wish he would remove the obsenities that are posted there. ASAP!

Tod 30 Oct 2004, 18:57

The Rusty Hinge, aka Lens Chat has been out of commission for nearly a week now. I wonder when or if Wurm will get around to repair it. In any event I wish he would remove the obsenities that are posted there. ASAP!

Danny 30 Oct 2004, 14:53

2 thoughts (but i'm not an expert)

1. Youre browser isn't set up to enable Java.

2. Regarding not typing your name in, i often have the same probs. try tappping the TAB button (see if the curser moves into the password space) then use SHIFT+TAB to go back to the username

3. now i've run out of ideas

but i'll think some more tomorrow

DWV 30 Oct 2004, 14:15

The first time I went to that site, it crashed IE with no warnings. Now, I do get the login box, but I can't enter any text.

Danny 30 Oct 2004, 14:03

Did you type a name in?

Did you hit enter?

Danny 30 Oct 2004, 14:02

Was there any names in the left hand side?

bb  30 Oct 2004, 13:24

Hi Danny got into your chat room, the couldnot chat to anyone, can you tell me me what I did wrong, thanks bb

Danny 29 Oct 2004, 13:22


try the link below.

It seems to work and it has the advantage that people who abuse the chat room can be ejected

bb 29 Oct 2004, 13:00

to all the lovely friendly chatters have a lovely weekend, its sad we can,t come in and chat to each other, still better to retain our dignity than have imposters come in and abuse genuine loveable chatters. Hope we can all meet up soon again. Love bb

Danny 29 Oct 2004, 12:13

I've created my first ever web page!

It could be used whilst Lenschat is down,

To see if it works:

Good Luck!!!!

ehpc 29 Oct 2004, 09:54

Pete loves Liz:)))))))))))))) DROOL! ( :) )

liz 29 Oct 2004, 09:37

Just checking in to say hi to all of my fellow glasses chatters, I miss all of you, i.e. Katy, Pete, Bart, Danielle, Melyssa, Mike, Tom, Jennifer, Paula, Electra, Mei, Emily C

BB, Black Hawk, Ash, Alm, and any I may have forgot to mention.

Love and lenses


Filthy McNasty 28 Oct 2004, 19:52

People, people, people. Get up from the computer desk and go outside! The Chat isn't all there is to life! Cripes, go meet someone who wears glasses or something.

Tammy 28 Oct 2004, 19:39

First of all, Alm, you have beautiful English.

Secondly, i tried to say that we needed to have user names and passwords something like hundreds of posts ago on this thread, but the idea was struck down back then. I, too, am saddened at the chat being frozen like it is, but until Chris gets to it, it stays like it is.

Bart 28 Oct 2004, 08:28

Anyway, does anybody know of another place to meet again? :-)

If lens chat is down, we could get another one in the meantime.. or use a messenger..

LikeGlass 28 Oct 2004, 07:27

I would not read quite as much into chat being down. It may very well be a server glitch. Chris does have a life and may very well have not seen it, or had the chance to address the problem. It could also be that it is not that high on the priority list, or he is simply on the road or otherwise occupied. I suspect if he had wanted to take it down, the link would be totally dead, as compared to just a stuck page.

JB 27 Oct 2004, 23:19

The minority spoiling things for the seems cyberspace is not that far detached from everyday life after all.I have not been posting there long but have always found people to be curtious, interesting and interseted, it's a sad moment when trust is lost and sites have to introduce login,we've seen it before on other sites and will no doubt see it again

Mike 27 Oct 2004, 18:44

As well, i can only express my disappointment in the thread being down as well, i feel cut off almost, and would suggest a system of id users also. Lastly, hello to Jennifer, and Emily, i hope all is fine!

Jennifer 27 Oct 2004, 16:31

I am sad to see the state of our chat room. I have enjoyed chatting with all of you. As everyone has stated previously, it's not pleasant to chat there when my name is taken away and inappropriate language is used. I agree that we need to find a solution so that we can continue our chats. I have stayed away due to the problems. I've been chatting with all of you for about a year and it would be nice to continue...

bb  27 Oct 2004, 16:07

Hi chatters is there any reason why access to the chat room is closed, since 10 .07 wednesday morning

ehpc 27 Oct 2004, 13:19

should be 'too'.........

ehpc 27 Oct 2004, 13:19


Hello Liz:) You say hello to all your glasses-loving chatters. And to all your glasses-chatting lovers to, I hope:) Like me:) Pete XXX

liz 27 Oct 2004, 13:01

Hello to all of my glasses loving chatters. I have also been the prey of some imposters that have sought to tarnish and misrepresent my love/need for glasses and to disrupt our sanctuary of very personal and revealing discussion about what glasses mean to each of us. It is obvious to me that the imposters have a need to become involved by using terrorist tactics to let us know that they are not yet comfortable with their own thoughts, desires and needs.

ehpc 27 Oct 2004, 12:51

Don't worry Emily - we know that you an exceptional and very classy and civilised person, and obviously only someone with no brains at all would put up that sort of infantilia! Pete

Bart 27 Oct 2004, 09:11

Finally the time is come for authenticated access to the chat. During the last times, what was one of the most intriguing, delightful chat on the net had become absolutely useless, unreliable and almost depressing place. In fact I missed here for a long time.

I dream a new place where bringing up to light this joiyful company, made up of true REAL persons!

As it is now, the chat is a nonsense.

As it is now the chat is dead.

Bye All


Melyssa 27 Oct 2004, 06:11

After what I read on the "frozen" chat last evening, I am definitely in favor of having user ID's and passwords. The impostors have gone too far with their foul language and, for their own perversions, using the names of decent people who come to the place for civilized chats.

daisy 27 Oct 2004, 05:27

what's going on with chat? It's NOT working

bb 27 Oct 2004, 05:17

Emily, I think it was shocking that a genuine friend, chatter, could have been the butt of an uncouth imposters imitation of you. Emily we genuine Chatters know you well, your always repectful, curtious, friendly, good listener, and often good for advice, I think the imposter who used your Name Emily, has brought shame on himself, his family,and has a meed to seek medical advice for his depravity.

Emily we genuine chatters, male or female love you and your good name is untarnised in our eyes.

Alm 27 Oct 2004, 03:58

Hi Emily, how are you?

I think we all know that was an imposter on Lens Chat and i think we all know that you are too kind and nice to do that, you don't even need to tell us that wasn't you!

Any way all the genuine chatters had enough of all those imposters in Lens Chat, I hope you can do something about it Wurm, maybe to join in the chat (if is possible) every chatter should have a password and his/hers own nickname, so without the user's password no one can enter in the chat with the nickname of someone else...

I hope I haven't been too confusing with my english.

Bye everybody

Alm 27 Oct 2004, 03:57

Hi Emily, how are you?

I think we all know that was an imposter on Lens Chat and i think we all know that you are too kind and nice to do that, you don't even need to tell us that wasn't you!

Any way all the genuine chatters had enough of all those imposters in Lens Chat, I hope you can do something about it Wurm, maybe to join in the chat (if is possible) every chatter should have a password and his/hers own nickname, so without the user's password no one can enter in the chat with the nickname of someone else...

I hope I haven't been too confusing with my english.

Bye everybody

Sandy 26 Oct 2004, 20:15

Hi Wurm, It looks like lens chat is frozen. Is it possible to remove the last page? It was not me on there, it was an imposter. Thanks and take care.

 26 Oct 2004, 19:02

Thet wuz intended fer eeemily

 26 Oct 2004, 19:01

Haye, wee noe thet.

Tod  26 Oct 2004, 19:00

When posting, use only your own name or "handle", or post anonamously. But please do not use the name of another person. Have some decency!

Emily 26 Oct 2004, 17:52

I would just like to let people know that I was not the author of the vile remarks that are now stuck on Lens Chat.

Julian 26 Oct 2004, 16:40

I was going to ask the same thing; the chat seems to have frozen up about 30 hours ago and there are some pretty foul comments there. I tried to post a dozen blanks to clean the window up (a thing I've never done before) but it isn't accepting any posts.

Love and kisses, Jules.

Alain 26 Oct 2004, 16:10

Hi Wurm,

Did you close the chat room? It doesn't work and it's frozen. Perhaps it's your decision after what we are experiencing with all these imposters saying such bad things. Perhaps you are preparing a new chat room with registred users? Who knows?... :-)

All the best


Wurm 25 Oct 2004, 04:27

Hi Slit,

I think your post on "Multifocals..." was in reply to a couple of apparently bogus posts. When I deleted the others, yours was left out of context and was deleted too. Sorry about that.

Slit 24 Oct 2004, 18:44

Hey Wurm,

What is this story below? Its irrelevent! Kick it out please.

I think there is some thing wrong with MULTIFOCALS FOR ..... thread.

Some of my posts are missing.

Pls take prompt action. Thanx.

Stan 23 Oct 2004, 05:12

Ted, at the bottom of the "25 most recent" there is a link to "View All Posts".

Ted 14 Oct 2004, 14:18

I would also like to offer my condolences to Lady E. Would any one like to re post some of Eddy's contributions as I am sure with the 25 most recent format, some of our newer readers have not been able to read Eddy's delightful and humerous posts? Due to travelling right now, I just don't have thwe time, for that I am sorry.

Tod 12 Oct 2004, 19:27

I wish to offer my condolences to Eddy's family and close friends. I always enjoyed reading his posts and viewing his GWG page from time to time.

Tammy 11 Oct 2004, 21:03

My heartfelt sympathies go to all of Eddy's family. He will indeed be missed on EyeScene.

Bobby 11 Oct 2004, 04:28

Lady Eddie, please accept my condolences.

I am sad, I always felt Eddie and me were friends. Eddie, Eddie, I will miss you badly.


LikeGlass 10 Oct 2004, 13:37

Received a story from a regular here with the following message:


You may not want this, but I thought I'd submit it anyway.

I took the beginning directly from Clay's "A Glasses Story" which I really enjoyed--then I fantacized on what might have happen if all the girls continued to get increasingly more powerful glasses.


Posted it on TWGW -

Click on stories. (Haven't got a chance to fully read it myself)

Christy 09 Oct 2004, 13:03

The King is dead - long live the King!

still 09 Oct 2004, 11:22

And now I have confirmation...I am so sad to have lost Eddy. Lady Eddy, please accept my condolences, for yourself and for everyone in Eddy's extended family. He enriched all our lives with each visit here.

JB 08 Oct 2004, 22:34

Eddy's delightful "sightings" naratives will be missed, was always an inspiration reading his posts

Wurm 08 Oct 2004, 20:04

We are a lesser group now, but larger individuals for having known him.

God bless.

Guido 08 Oct 2004, 16:29

Eddy's prose was always a delight. He will be missed.

Julian 08 Oct 2004, 16:20

Lady E: God be good to the man - and to all of you.

Lady Eddy 08 Oct 2004, 15:23

I am very sad to have to inform you all of the passing six weeks ago at our home on the New South Wales Central Coast of Edward Lu Baoli known to you as Eddy. He was 76.

Eddy lived a long full and varied life. He was a diplomat, politician and in his later life financier. He wrote profusely on the many subjects which interested him including history, literature and politics. He was an incredible linguist. Even he didn't know how many languages he spoke. I only recall him being at a loss once; during a trip to Mongolia, but he soon resolved the problem in German and Russian.

Eddy told me about what he called his "little weakness" very early in the piece. He loved Eyescene. I still remember his excitement when he found it. He very specially asked me to tell you all that he wouldn't be coming back.

Eddy was a very traditional Chinese which means that he is survived by three other wives beside myself and thirty children and grandchildren in several countries. We all miss him sadly.

Katy 05 Oct 2004, 11:37

Hi Wurm :)

As I write this some mystery person is posting as Katy in lens chat. It is so annoying! The difference is that the clone version can't spell. If there was any chance of having some form of sign-in, that would be brilliant.

Katy :)

 02 Oct 2004, 09:34


Wurm 02 Oct 2004, 07:10

Hi Alain,

You're welcome! Congratulations on the relaunch.

Alain 02 Oct 2004, 05:20

Thanks for your quick action!


Puffin 01 Oct 2004, 16:27

Hear, hear to that (ie, Alain's site) I must admit I keep forgetting the URL. Must be getting old or something.

About updates, I aim to update the pics section bimonthly and the rest, "when I have time" as it were.

Alain 01 Oct 2004, 11:40

Hi Wurm,

Could you relink my site?



long-time lurker 30 Sep 2004, 20:09

I don't know how time consuming this would be...but if it's not too would be a great idea to let people know when the most recent update for each site was on the links page.

Julian 29 Sep 2004, 15:35

Cheer up, Dave, it happens to all of us.

Love and kisses, Jules.

Dave 29 Sep 2004, 14:37

Screwed up again. I made the last post intended to Julian, not by him.

Julian 29 Sep 2004, 14:35

Accidental post to this thread. I use a tabbed browser most of the time. It's cool for some things but I often have too many windows open to keep track of.

Dave 29 Sep 2004, 14:31

I don't know what happened. I thought I posted those links to "seen on the web". Until now I thought the post got deleted because of the jest lead-in comments. I agree, some of the webshots girls are very pretty.

Bobby 29 Sep 2004, 13:33

USA Pacific

anonymous 29 Sep 2004, 11:58

What time zone is eyescene in?

 28 Sep 2004, 15:00

Marcia was a fake person. She was known also as Myodisc Carole, as well as Czski.

Filthy McNasty 28 Sep 2004, 12:55

I like the girl on the left:

Lazysiow 28 Sep 2004, 11:18

She's got an amazing smile! :) and her frames suit her perfectly, very cute, and ah looks like all the boys have noticed too. Dangit rofl.

Clogs 28 Sep 2004, 05:39


I have to admit the girls are not the prettiest, except for one. Go through all her albums again. I like her. She's got a nice smile.

Ree 28 Sep 2004, 05:01

Kay, Yes i remember marcia Jenkins, a very myopic young mother who used to post quite frequently and they were detailed posts. But lately she seems to have just disappeared.

Anyway you can find her posts under the thread 'Lenses". her posts are somewhere in the month of june ,, july.

Kay 28 Sep 2004, 04:37

I wasnt sure where to post this request for help.

Many months ago a lady called Marcia made a series of posts about her severe myopia. She had a small child & I think her husband had died in a car accident. Her posts all seemed genuine but I cant find them anywhere.

I thought they were in the Psychology of Glasses.

If anyone can help me find them I would be grateful.

Bobby 27 Sep 2004, 09:55

I have just uploaded two new stories by Spec4ever to

Both of them are very good !!!

Come, read, and enjoy.

Julian 25 Sep 2004, 02:29

Yeah, but why on THIS thread?

Love and kisses, Jules.

Dave 25 Sep 2004, 02:12

All fat and ugly...

D-W-V 25 Sep 2004, 00:54

If you have firewall or antivirus software that lets you block certain websites, you could blacklist O4L.

Tod 24 Sep 2004, 17:10

I do not care for the flashing banner myself. but I guess it helps to pay the bills here at ES. Of course you can always scroll down until its off your screen.

Tod 24 Sep 2004, 17:07

Tod 24 Sep 2004, 17:07

I do not care for thr flash

royboy 24 Sep 2004, 16:38

hi wurm --- i dont want to appear as one of those complainers --- but has anybody else commented about the new 'flash' banner ad on top for o4less --- all that motion makes it very distracting whilst reading the threads --- i find myself moving the window up in order to block the ad. yes it is eyecatching when u first log-on and it did entice me to click on the product. curious to know if it is only me that feels the discomfort [after all many of us on this sight r visually 'challenged'].....

Bobby 23 Sep 2004, 17:59

Willy, send me your story, I will upload it on my website.

my mail:

Willy 23 Sep 2004, 08:00

I understand why Wurm has decided to delete the story threads, but I have a story based (in small part) on a real event that I think would capture some people's attention. Any advice on a site where that could be posted? Or is there any chance Wurm might agree to set up a "temporary" story thread so that others such as Bobby or whomever could copy them to their own sites, and then Wurm could delete them from Eyescene?

High myope lover 18 Sep 2004, 19:03

I live in Wyoming, a place where you don't see too many people with really strong - glasses. I did have a lady post a message on here a couple months ago saying she was from Wyoming. But unfortunantly she has not written back. If your out there I would like to hear from you, really I'm not some weird guy. Would just like to chat!

JJ 16 Sep 2004, 22:51

I am having the same problem. I am finding it extremely annoying. I tried clicking on the O4L link and couldn't get on their website at all. I was going to buy eyeglasses but can't because I cannot follow the link.

Johnnyb555 16 Sep 2004, 22:38

HELP... Every time I switch threads today, I get prompted to enter a usernam, password, and domain. The Window is titled "Enter Network Password", and site is "", but I'm not clicking on any links for that site.

JB 16 Sep 2004, 21:57

As an ocassional lurker / rare poster ,who is away on business a lot,i find the ease of use of eyescene very refreshing with no need to remember passwords,usernames etc,i've lost count of the ones i need nowadays for banks,e.mail etc.

My feelings ,as voiced by many others,"if it 'aint broke, why mend it".

Yes, there will always be people whose sole intent is ruination,but rising above them is far more fun.

Keep up the great work all posters,seen on the web is superb,and may there be many more years of lighthearted banter between like-minded cyber folk

specs4ever 15 Sep 2004, 17:52

The ease of joining in the posts on this site has likely brought quite a number of real people in over the past couple of years. So, any form of registration would have to be fast, and probably annonymous in order for others to drop by. It seems that the regular forum has very few problems on an ongoing basis - the odd flame war, but nothing serious. However, the chat is another story, and as someone said is contaminated about 50% of the time. I have tried to ignore no names in the past, but then what they do is adopt the name of whoever you are speaking to, and then the filth starts. So, they have made it impossible to ignore them. I know that the posibility is there that the person I am chatting with is not who and what they claim to be, but I don't have a problem with that as long as the conversation is pleasant, and clean.

So, whatever you can do to help this problem disappear would be fantastic Wurm

Stan 15 Sep 2004, 01:26

I don't think anything needs to be changed regarding the "bulk" URL posting. Quality control is easy enough to achieve by each individual not clicking on the posts they know from experience are going to disappoint them.

As for the chat, I don't know what to suggest. On the one hand, it seems like it's no big deal and everyone should know the risk of imposters is very high. On the other hand, I know from the various iterations of ES we've been through, Wurm does not like this site to be used as a tool for weirdos (beyond the OO type I mean).

I went in the lens chat a week or so ago and somebody, apparently male weirdo, was trying to get somebody else, presumably young female, to follow him to another chat site but I think she said the other site did not work for her (it was a Java chat applet). I followed his instructions to get to the site, typed in the girl's nickname, exchanged a couple sentences, and he did not seem real happy when I explained it was me and not her. Not very friendly about it at all. More like a guy who thought he had one on the hook but then found out it was really just a glob of seaweed.

 14 Sep 2004, 23:13

By monitoring the LensChat, three different individuals, who use up to 12 nicknames, can be recognized. The imposters Lens Chat is unusable for any sane communication for about 50% of time.

One more regular visitor is a obviously very neurotic personality who uses the chat system "to relief the pressure", which should be OK as "he" is real.

A kind of registration might help, although we do not think it will eradicate the problem for ever.

For the time being, the best way is to ignore the imposter.

Filthy McNasty 14 Sep 2004, 21:50

Wurm: Are there any vestiges of the second iteration of ES that could be salvaged? It strikes me that the moderated forum approach was quite successful, and if it's just sitting on a HDD somewhere, it might be easier to implement than going with a whole new setup.

Slit a.k.a. Plus Crazy 14 Sep 2004, 20:28

Wurm, Dave, Pinkspecs, Bobby, Puffin,

I see some fools playing a lot of nonsense on this around.

The latest act of them is trying to control the Quality.

They should learn that "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder", what is beautiful to me may not be beautiful to another person. But they should learn to respect other peoples tastes.

So, these quality controllers and newly joined DUMB ARSES,

we know how to measure the beauty of a girl better than you!!!

GET OUT!! *&^%^%%$)-0>>"

SAR! DAVE! BADFETI! GWGS! PINKSPECS! FILTHY MC NASTY! SMUGEUR! ALAN! and all the poeple who had been with ES throughout its development...

PLEASE KEEP POSTING any amount of pix...

We'll fill this thread with links and drive away those fools....

Wurm 14 Sep 2004, 20:01

It looks like there are approximately 70 regular normal users of this BBS, and perhaps another 5 to 10 people who chronically post under multiple nicknames.

I'm looking for options that will allow the regular users to communicate with each other while discouraging the antisocials. Some sort of user authentication is likely the way to go.

How a changed BBS would handle brand new users is a topic for further discussion. We could probably go along for quite some time just among the regulars who stick around but my preference is to allow legitimate conversationalists to join in, perhaps via a trial status.

Filthy McNasty 14 Sep 2004, 14:50

I agree, S4E. However, much smaller gripes abound as well. Wurm may not post much, but he keeps his eyes on what's going on.

specs4ever 14 Sep 2004, 13:46

Well Filthy, it is a little hard to deal with the absolute trash that is showing up there. It is fast reaching the point where the only participants in Lens Chat are the imposters. I for one don't think this is what Wurm intends, as it truly dininishes the quality of this site.

Filthy McNasty 14 Sep 2004, 08:10

First sentence below: "appeal" should be "appear".

Filthy McNasty 14 Sep 2004, 08:10

I should add that my last post may appeal to be directed at Alain. It isn't (solely). I've been reading posts in another thread this morning where people are asking for threads here, there and everywhere to cater to their individual tastes. While Wurm may be willing to accommodate some proportion of these requests (and I do not purport to speak for him on this or any other issue), we should all keep in mind that it is just possible that he's got other things to do with his time than babysit us.

Filthy McNasty 14 Sep 2004, 07:04

Yes Wurm, please change everything on this site to yield the maximum convenience and insulation from being offended to each and every one of us. Your personal life and job be damned.

Sheesh, people, deal with it.

Alain 13 Sep 2004, 19:41

Hi Wurm,

I think it's time to change the chat system. We really need a system with registred name as we are facing imposters using our names and telling horrible things.

I would like to know if you could relink my site as it's now reopen.



Benn 09 Sep 2004, 12:27

I am 62 years old, I started wearing Bi focals at 21. I needed them at 17 but "it wasn't done" and the Optometrist's Association had decided, I guess.

Today, we all understand there are many new ways to solve and many new eye problems to solve. Computers for example.

Accommondation problems are newer, as far as recognition is concerned.

I think UK is just a little behind where a lot of other countries are.

Asia was ahead of the US in optics.

VisitBoy 09 Sep 2004, 12:00

I've seen a few people in the UK wearing bifocals. Like Julian, I'd say it's not common, but you do see them around. Not quite so easy to spot with so many varifocals around these days.

Julian 09 Sep 2004, 05:02

That's funny, I have, and I'm also in the UK...haven't seen it all that often though.

Love and kisses, Jules.

Phil 09 Sep 2004, 04:57

I live in UK and have never seen people under 45 wearing bifocals. Why?

Julian 08 Sep 2004, 13:46

One or two of us are wondering if there is any news of our old friend DOMINIC who was an enthusiastic EyeScener a while back. Dom, if you happen to read this will you email me: julianmungo(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk -your privacy will be respected.

Love and kisses, Jules.

Julian 08 Sep 2004, 13:43

On or two of us are wondering if there is any news of our old friend DOMINIC

Wurm 06 Sep 2004, 22:39

Okay, I think we're back in business (sans fiction).

Wurm 06 Sep 2004, 21:37

Things are going to look a little weird for the next few minutes (in the middle of reindexing threads).

Puffin 03 Sep 2004, 08:54

Indeed I am writing stories at the moment. "Dear Diary IV" is just about ready, and I am writing one entitled "Princess of the Plains". Hope this helps.

 02 Sep 2004, 21:14

Hey Puffin have you written any new stories lately. I love yours they are always so whimsical, and i love how you put yourself in them as a character...if not, i hope you'll write some soon. a big fan of yours

Puffin 02 Sep 2004, 14:54

I might point out that it was the stories that prompted me to try to write some for you all, and after a time start my website. I may not have done either if there where no stories here. It was reading "4 eyed Angel" that set me off (writing, that is!) I'd hate to think getting rid of the stories might prevent someone else having a go, and give us their thoughts

relating to glasses.

Some of the best thoughts I've had and seen here can really only be put down as a story, and to think that we might miss something unique and important, well, that's a bit sad.

Anyway, thanks for inspiring me to do this, but I wish you'd keep the inspiration here: the "Centre of the Glasses Universe".

Bobby 02 Sep 2004, 06:22

While the site is down and being re-indexed remember the Glasses over contacts Yahoo! groups is still up anf running.

Filthy McNasty 01 Sep 2004, 22:00

Delete everything! We're all imposters, for Dog's sake.

Relax, all you people who aren't Wurm. Anyone who labors under the illusion that this is, in fact, a family site is, well, laboring under an illusion. We talk about screwing about with our vision, of all things, something that should be undertaken, if at all, with 20-20 foresight, pardon the bon mot. We are generally a weird crowd. I like that, but under no circumstances would I want my kids, or anyone else's, taking ideas away from this site.

Wurm, of course, owns this forum, and is the fuinal and only arbiter of what flies and doesn't. I will never quarrel with him on any call he makes. He's given us all a lot over the years. It's been quite remarkable.

specs4ever 01 Sep 2004, 19:47

While you are at it Wurm, why don't you delete lens chat. The imposters, and the language there have made it a site that should not be accessable by children.

Wurm 01 Sep 2004, 18:54

I will be deleting story threads from the site soon, probably within the next few weeks. I'll leave the "Literary References" thread up for discussion of glasses in books, etc.

The site will probably go down for a brief time during that project, as the remaining threads will need to be re-indexed.

Bobby 31 Aug 2004, 01:23

New update:

2 new stories by Specs4ever (see S4E section)

2 oldies but goldies from my archive (see Stories by othe authors section)

4 stories translated from English to Czech (uz ctyri povidky jsou prelozeny do CESTINY !) (see the Czech section)

Tammy 30 Aug 2004, 15:23

This is on a sad note, and i don't really know where to post it, but my friend and i were driving around town, and there was a pair of glasses laying in the street, near the curb. If we weren't on the busiest street in town, i would have told her to stop and let me pick them up. There was no way we could have stopped though. The glasses were right by an optical shop, and it looked like they were still in good condition.

Mark in Japan 29 Aug 2004, 03:29


YES, I am a fellow Suid Afrikaner....and a very proud one at that. I was very glad to see one of my countrymen on this board, until you said South Africa WAS a great country. South Africa is my home, and IS a great country, and will always be the place I return to from my wanderings. What ruined it for you? (was it perhaps DEMOCRACY?)

Wurm, I am sorry, I know this is not the correct forum to air my views, and hope it has not been offensive. I was just shocked at the sight of "...WAS a great country"

royboy 28 Aug 2004, 12:51

hi mark and tortoise --- i tried and am able to register to '' and i'm an ex-pat living in new york city [and would be proud to display the 'za' what WAS once a wonderful country]. anyhow, i think u have to check off in the first window that u accept 'some of the provisions'.

so mark r u a fellow suid-afrikaaner? --- luv to chat with u, drop me a line at royboy246 at mac dot com

Puffin 27 Aug 2004, 17:47

Forgot to mention this, in case anyone's interested, but I've been watching my Wonder Woman DVD's and idly dreaming that the obviously fake glasses Lynda Carter wears in "disguise" are actually plano fronted thick ones. What a thought!

Mark in Japan 24 Aug 2004, 08:06


Just tried it out and you are right. Sorry for any inconvenience, and sorry for getting ahead of myself and giving it "the hard sell" before checking if you could actually register from abroad.


tortoise 24 Aug 2004, 07:36

Mark, I tried webmail just now but they will only take registration from South Africa. Too bad, it sounded good.

Mark in Japan 24 Aug 2004, 06:09


Don't actually laugh when you read this, but I would really recommend indicates South Africa (but anyone is eligible).....but I have had my webmail address for about 7 years, and have checked it while living in New York, Europe, Taiwan, and currently, Japan (where I am now based for work). It has been LIGHTNING fast in all those places, is low on spam, great for sending huge files (including photos), and gives you loads of free space (I can't recall the exact amount just now, but it's substantial). So you should check it out. Or not, if having the .za suffix would bother you, as I think it would some.

Julian 24 Aug 2004, 05:14

There's a new email service coming from Google; still in beta I think.

Electra 24 Aug 2004, 05:12

Thomas, There are TWO people who go into chat using the handle liz. One is a helpful pleasant person, the other an obvious disrupter. The person who customarily signs in as liz is as annoyed about this as anyone else, but how could the site owner ever differentiate between the two? It would require him to sit in the chat room for hours/days watching. There are a number of "fake" handles (signing in using the names as a regular) in the room, being disruptive, including one who obviously simply has a grievance against liz (and who knows which one he has spoken to?) and I for one am very happy that I'm not the site owner expected to sort this out.

Electra 24 Aug 2004, 05:07

Thanks Jules, I've given up on the e-mail, and will be creating a new one when I get my finger out. If you could see the stupid messages I got from Yahoo on their feedback system, they clearly don't actually READ what you send them.............and I don't want to use my ISP e-mail for obvious reasons (not least the spam quotient). So what free e-mail service does everyone recommend?

Alain 23 Aug 2004, 15:11

Her? I would say that he is a man, a really rude man...

Thomas 23 Aug 2004, 14:12

Webmaster: A certain person using the handle "liz" has been offensive to chatters on the Rusty Hinge. She's combative and using inappropriate language. Her certain sexaul preferences are pushed with out regard. liz continues to offend those chatting to the point that we have to leave so that she leaves us alone. Just wondering if others feel the same way and what can be done about her?

Alain 23 Aug 2004, 04:49

Hi dear webmaster,

I'm wondering if you can relink my site again?

Thanks in advance and long life to Eyescene!


Julian 21 Aug 2004, 00:24

Electra: I had an email from Izzy who is trying to get in touch with you; I think he has written some more for your site. I've told him your email is down - but we both hope to be able to send stuff to you before too long.

Wurm, and everybody: sorry to use the site in this way, but I have no other way of communicating with Electra right now.

Love and kisses, Jules.

Guest 14 Aug 2004, 15:10

Who cares about any of this?

Bobby 14 Aug 2004, 14:58

I have tried to browse this web site using wap with my Nokia 6310i, but I was only partially successfull.

Lurker #574 12 Aug 2004, 05:27

But James Fredericks, are you still a car thief who steals cars for really stupid reasons. Like you forgot your homework paper or you forgot to flush the toilet back at your house.

Wurm 11 Aug 2004, 20:41

Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad to hear the site renders well on a WAP phone. Simple sites like this tend to do well on most browsers. ES is cutting edge 1996 design!

There are no rules about nicknames here. The goal here is to connect real people with each other, so running a bunch of characters is discouraged, but changing or aliasing your own nickname is fine.

Plus crazy 11 Aug 2004, 18:39

Hi WURM, i'm browsing your site using WAP on my NOKIA 3100. Man, it works well. But pls dont add any dynamic content as they'll make it imposible 2 browse this using my mobile phone. Browsing your site using the mobile technology is a releafe for me as i'm away from home these days. the other thing is, i'd like to change my ES nickname. Is it ok? Bye.

Rob 11 Aug 2004, 03:57

But, James Fredericks - do you wear your prescription glasses now - and what Rx do you have ??

James Fredericks 11 Aug 2004, 01:26

I am James Fredericks, and no longer am a nerd.

Lurker # 574 10 Aug 2004, 15:20

You mean James Fredericks.

Lurker # 574 10 Aug 2004, 15:18

You mean James Fredericks.

another Lurker  10 Aug 2004, 15:15

The nerdy car thief's name was James Federicks. And he wasn't wearing his required prescription glasses at the time.

Lurker # 574 01 Aug 2004, 11:34

how about robbing a bank so you can pay your traffic tickets

BILLIE 01 Aug 2004, 10:37


Oh well then, in that case.... 01 Aug 2004, 07:25

About 1912 in Skegness, two men broke into the bakery and stole some fruitcake. On the way out they damaged the door and seriously frightened a sleeping dog.

About the same relevance, I think.

 31 Jul 2004, 19:05


I care 31 Jul 2004, 17:32

Its the moral of the story that's important, not the date on which it occured. That who cares!

 31 Jul 2004, 13:34

but were you born a nerd?

Me 31 Jul 2004, 12:27

WHO CARES? Anyway, that's before I was born!

 31 Jul 2004, 11:53


I'll tell you what a nerd is. A nerd is someone who steals a fellow student's car at school in order to go home to get his homework that he said he forgot to bring with him to school. The stolen vehicle was a red 1963 International Harvester Scout. He started the car that day with a pair of scissors. Because this person previously found a spare set of keys in the vehicle and drove the car days before without permission. But a passenger then, afterwards turned the hidden spare set of keys over to the car's owner and advising her that someone might try to steal the car. So the next time the pencil neck nerd was in the car he goes and starts it up with a pair of scissors he finds under the front seat. He somehow starts the ignition with these scissors. He steals this car with a passenger inside because he suddenly "realizes" he has left his school paper at home and now has to go home and get it. Anyway, he gets into an accident while driving to his house. First, when rounding a corner he clips the side of a parked car and stalls the stolen car. He then nervously attempts to restart the engine using the pair of scissors in the ignition. He finally restarts the engine, pops the clutch and immediately crashes the vehicle into another parked car on the other side of the street. The person sitting in the passenger seat is thrown through the windshield and is knocked unconscious and has a lacerated forehead and neck. The driver who is the thief, gets his knee cap smashed into the steering column and has to be hospitalized for surgery to have his knee cap wired back together. Both had to go to court afterwards, where as the driver admitted in court that stealing the car was his idea alone and charges against the passenger were dropped. Yes! Only a REAL nerd would steal a car to go fetch his forgotten homework paper. This is a true story that happened on Nov. 6,1969. (zip code 12550) The thief's name was James Federicks. The girl's car he stole as well as the other cars damaged by him, cost several thousand dollars to repair. The thief got five years probation as a juvenile offender.

Tod 29 Jul 2004, 17:16

Perhaps I was too quick to blame Emily © for this rumor. That perhaps she did not start this rumor but merely and innocently passed it along to me. Then she is not to blame and I apologize to her. As for the person who did start this rumor initally, I say SHAME on you.

You are a person in low standing. There is a thing called Karma in this world. None of us knows what's around the corner for us in our lives. Spreading gossip and rumors spells bad Karma for the person doing it. What goes around comes around and its so very true.

Tod 29 Jul 2004, 17:06

Tammy, I think you are a very good person.

Tammy 28 Jul 2004, 16:42

Guest3, i will think carefully about what you said.

Btw, to dispell any rumors going around here, i do not have a detached retina. I came back from being on vacation and found out that someone on here has been spreading news that has been upsetting to many of you, and that news was that i have been away from this website because of the fact that i had lost some vision in one eye and was depressed about it. That's not true and i would like to personally string up the person who started it by their toes and give them 23 lashings with a wet noodle!

Guest3 28 Jul 2004, 10:31

Tammy I know you also have another name, Tammy your far too sensitive, this guilt everytime you stand up for yourself is so very negative, being negative distroys your personality your own personal freedom and is a turn off.

Tammy look at yourself in a more positive way, act to fakes with disdain, your far too self critical, chatters will acecept yourimperfection as part of your personality, from what I see in the chat room your loved, and missed when your not around.

Tammy your becoming a old lady before your time, let your hair down a little relax and stop thinking everything you do is sinful, you need a balance to your life and you need to mix socially more and harden up your sensitive attitude, you will then find life farmore enjoyable. There a place for everything in life, I think your allowing religion to dominate your thinking, hence this overwhelming feeling of guilt. Surrey all that maters Tammy your loved and yourliked.

Tammy 28 Jul 2004, 02:42

Here's another post from me and then i'll not write anymore on here tonight. A while back i was on The Rusty Hinge and a NoName came in and called us all fakes. I was tired of reading it all the time and so i told this poster that i was a fake, and that he/she was too. Anyway, i should never have done that, because i am not a fake. I am sorry. I am asking for your forgiveness. Tammy.

Tammy 28 Jul 2004, 02:34

Bobby, sorry for the smile face, i know how it is to turn older. On my next birthday i'll be 40.

Tammy 28 Jul 2004, 02:32

Bobby, Happy Belated Birthday to You! :-)

Julian 25 Jul 2004, 12:20

Yes, happy birthday, Bobby!

Love and kisses, Jules.

still 25 Jul 2004, 10:42

Happy birthday, Bobby! I am a lot older, and I no longer give a damn. I enjoy my life. Have fun this year!

Bobby 25 Jul 2004, 07:52

Sad news:

Your long term contributer Bobby aka BobbygGOC is older again, reaching 45 yesterday.

Wurm 06 Jul 2004, 18:31

A few more spurious posts were deleted today, as well as one response which would have been left out of context.

Susanne A 03 Jul 2004, 06:50


Did you get my e-mail?


Puffin 30 Jun 2004, 07:12

Francine, you need to get the latest version of whatever browser you have.

If you are getting those grey box "messenger" popups, this is how to get rid of them:

leelee 30 Jun 2004, 06:06

Interesting that you are getting a message to install Flash, since most browsers these days come with it bundled in. What browser are you using? Maybe you are getting a message to update your version of Flash.

Like the previous poster said, Flash is very safe and easy to install and you will then have access to a lot more content.

On the other hand, I wonder why O4L didn't just create it's banner as an animated gif, since there doesn't seem to be any interactivity there.

D-W-V 30 Jun 2004, 01:50

Guest: you'll get those Macromedia Flash pop-ups if you're viewing a web page that contains stuff with Flash animations, like the Optical4Less banner ads for example. Flash is OK to install.

Francine 29 Jun 2004, 21:28

I am getting a lot of popups of all kinds, and, like you, my popup blocker does virtually NOTHING. My computer at work has been attacked by spyware and adware, and I've been spending hours uninstalling it.

I think the advertisers and hackers (Maybe they're one and the same) must have developed some new methods to torture us and complicate our lives. At least it seems like that sometimes, doesn't it?



Guest 29 Jun 2004, 19:01

Every few seconds I get a popup asking if I want to install Macromedia Flash Player. My popup blocker doesn't block it and it's really annoying. I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this and what can be done about it.

Wurm 29 Jun 2004, 18:55

I weeded several bogus posts from the "Acuity and Prescription" and "Vision" threads. Hopefully no other posts were orphaned, although I did some slight editing on one since it briefly referred to a prior post that was deleted.

High Myope lover 11 Jun 2004, 14:52

Strong Myope Lady,

I live in Wyoming as well & would love to chat with you. If you are interested let me know dalton024200 on Yahoo Messenger. Your Wyoming Friend!

LikeGlass 30 May 2004, 18:02

Wouldn't that be "know you that"


NN 30 May 2004, 17:33

Not a good idea! Do you know that:

Copy and Paste

or just

Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V


Tammy(original) 30 May 2004, 16:06

Likeglass, i think that's a terrific idea! I, for one, don't mind typing my handle in each time.

LikeGlass 30 May 2004, 15:25

W, just a thought... You may want to change the code to not accept posts that have the username blank. If they had to type it in everytime, it might slow down the process to the point where they get tired of doing it. Seams to me that most of the regulars have no problem typing their names ;)

 29 May 2004, 13:17


 29 May 2004, 13:17

Christy 29 May 2004, 13:06

Wurm - I for one haven't a clue what's happening in "Glasses for Auction or Sale" - but I have to say I'm impressed at the dedication of people who have nothing better to do than sit in front of their computers all day waiting for the opportunity to squash someone else off the screen. Meanwhile - there's a whole wide world out there - a marvelous and wonderful place despite all its faults - and I wonder if these folk even realise that life goes on...

NeedGWG 28 May 2004, 22:20


I have removed all the things from my previous location.

So here is my new location.

I hope you would enjoy it.



Wurm 28 May 2004, 18:17

Silly season seems to be upon us: religion, politics, and a strange personal struggle between "Moonshiner" and someone posting from France over in the auction thread.

Ah well, it's amazing how seriously a few people seem to take this site. Lighten up, it's just for fun!

Try to keep in mind that, collectively, we're unlikely to change many minds about eyewear -- much less any opinions about the true nature of reality or the best methods to govern nations. There are other sites to tackle those weighty issues. Check them out.

But if you know what the heck is going on between Moonshiner and the post-a-lot French person, feel free to let us know. An auction gone horribly wrong, perhaps?

Don 28 May 2004, 06:59

Electra, I think your Match making idea is a GREAT ONE!!! Don

gwgs 28 May 2004, 06:09

What a fantastic idea Electra.

Electra 28 May 2004, 05:46

Tortoise, hence my offer to create realistic cartoons. It gives people a good idea while making the image worthless.

NeedGWG 28 May 2004, 03:22

Hi...all GWGs and GWG Lovers....

I have created my first GWG Forum. This is like eyescene. You can start the discussions related to GWGs here. First of all you have to signup here, by entering your information.

Hope you enjoy the forum like EYESCENE



tortoise 27 May 2004, 13:54

Wurm, have you seen what's happening on "Glasses for auction or sale" thread?

tortoise 27 May 2004, 13:52

Nicely done, Electra, it looks good to me. Can't think of any improvements to suggest right now. It will be interesting to see how many people will post their pics. If there was some way to prevent download and, therefore, further distribution of pics on the net it would give people more comfort I think. I'm told it's not possible to control though.

Electra 27 May 2004, 07:38

OK, here's the beta version for the Glasses Singles Matchmaking doo-hickey you guys suggested. Tell me what you think, this is for you so I reply on your feedback:

Mike 24 May 2004, 21:59

Tammy, i'm glad you're back!!!!

Tod  24 May 2004, 20:58

Tammy, I am glad you are back on the post here. I hope to chat with you soon over on LC sometime. I am working nights so perhaps on weekends we'll get a chance.

Guest  24 May 2004, 16:24

High Myope Lover, would it be possible to have a photo of your glasses, i collect photos of glasses, would be most greatful if you consent to my wishes. Thanks

Tammy 24 May 2004, 12:59

Nameless one, et al

I do have a male friend who i am very close to. Yes, he wears glasses too, but very weak lenses. I now realize why i was blocked from posting on the threads, and am very greatful that our gracious host, Wurm, has taken the liberty of taking all of the blocks off. I will try to abstain from doing anything that will get me blocked.

Don 22 May 2004, 09:31

Strong Myope Lady I like high myope women.I don't wear glasses myself.Sence I was a kid I've liked women in glasses.I'm 38 live in Arkansas.If you want to e-mail me feel free to do so.At

High Myope lover 22 May 2004, 01:17

Strong Myope Lady, I would love to chat with you 1 on 1 please get a hold of me. My Yahoo messenger name is dalton024200, please look me up if you get this message.

LikeGlass 21 May 2004, 09:20


Check out the on line sponsor, they have super high refract glass lenses that will correct to -25 without having to go to the myodisk type lens. These would look far more like regular glasses in your case.

Martin 21 May 2004, 08:59

Strong Myope Lady.

reading your post could fall for you, would love to wine and dine you, over candle light with soft music playing, slip your glasses down your nose and look into your beautiful eyes and chat the night away getting to know you.

It can only be a dream as I live to far away from you, but i,m sure you will have guys who find you adorable.

Guest 21 May 2004, 08:37

Strong Myope Lady.

please don,t say your glasses look unattractive on you, just by your post you seem a very intelligent lady with a balanced outlook on life.

If you convince yourself your glasses are unattreactive it will have negative aspect on other parts of your life, you will send out negative vibes to others and one of the worse attributes is you will think people are looking at your thick glasses.

Look at yourself in the whole, be positive about your glasses and many of the negative feelings will disappear.

Many guys like me would not consider your glasses had any bearing on you as a person even though we like girls in glasses and would be proud to walk down the street with you arm in arm and tell the onlooker we were proud of you.

From all the guys in the chat room lets welcome you with open arms and give you a nice warm friendly cuddle to tell you

your special.

strong myope lady 21 May 2004, 06:57

Hello high myope lover:

I am very nearsighted and have been since 2 yrs old. My mother told me I was -9 at that age and went to several eye specialists. Today I wear high index lenses of -22 and -22.75. Without my glasses, I see just a blur of colors. I can't make out any shapes. With my glasses, my vision is 20/30 and 20/40 which is pretty good for how nearsighted I am. My glasses are very thick ene though they are high index. They are concave in the front. I have had myo-bowl or disk lenses but they look rediculous on me.I am 31 now and live in Wyoming.

High Myope lover 21 May 2004, 02:14

Is there any women in ir near Wyoming that wear really thick minus glasses> I would love to meet you if your out there.

Electra 20 May 2004, 05:30

Yes, I'll do it. Give me a few days. I have some other updates for that site anyway, so I'll devote some time to it on the weekend. This will be fun.

royboy 19 May 2004, 21:12

thanx tortoise for correcting my slip --- and i like your addition horn'rims' ----- cute :)

tortoise 19 May 2004, 18:34

....or, for taking the bull by the hornrims.... :-)

Bravo Electra!

royboy 19 May 2004, 17:26

ms. electra ---- u can be our savior --- after-all we spend so much energy exploring other people on these sites--- my ideal would be to hook up with someone who shares something in common. i would be super excited and active with a 'personals' listing in our eyeglasses community. you seem to be the only one to take the 'bull by the hands' ---and thanx for your wonderful 'goc' site. keep us posted about developments...

Electra 19 May 2004, 05:14

I'm up for it. No charge, absolutely. However it'll have to be on my "proper" site ( because it'll need CGI etc, which Geocities doesn't support. No probem, so long it's supported, can we have a show of hands?

Daffy 17 May 2004, 18:25

I guess that the danger is that some dweeb will head off to the thrift store and get any glasses and wear them on a date just to 'impress' on the night and find a vulnerable candidate.

Guest 17 May 2004, 17:39

Tammy, please don,t take to heart my post of 17th may, you have so much going for you, your attractive, intelligent, can hold your won in a detailed conversation, are quick to praise, and seem loyal to your friends, yet deep down you seem to be missing out on a special relationship which I,m sure you dream off.

Puffin 17 May 2004, 16:23

I always thought Tammy had a boyfriend.

 17 May 2004, 16:11

$ & ¢ 16 May 2004, 20:24


Jay 16 May 2004, 20:18

Tammy should try a dating service. Nothing to lose.

tortoise 16 May 2004, 20:03

a personals/singles service for the bespectacled and their admirers has been suggested. Electra? What do you think about hosting such a thing on your site?

Tod 16 May 2004, 19:57

Please dont single out Tammy. There are many in a single life who would like to meet that "special" someone. Its too bad there aren't any really good places to do so. The Bar "scene" is the pits. And on line dateing services, ect. are a joke and mostly are only out to take your money. So I would hope for some type of solution to this delema. It seems that the only place people can meet today is in college but everyone can't go away full time to college. Any ideas???

Tammy 16 May 2004, 18:12

Guest, Who says i don't have a steady boyfriend?

As for being an introvert, i know that i spend far too much time on the computer, but i still do get out of the house every day. Peace, Tammy.

Guest 16 May 2004, 17:34

Hi Tammy,

by chance i clicked onto a post room and saw your photo, you were 37 when the photo was taken, a couple of times i,ve seen you in the chat room and I think you say your 39 now.

Tammy I fail to understand why you don,t have a steady boyfriend or are even married, you are very attractive, lovely hair, slender, nice glasses, although by now i,m sure you have different glasses, if your personality is as attractive as your looks then all I can say is American guys must be blind, I think they need their eyes testing.

Tammy from the little seen of you chat you need to relax, you are stifling your total personality by allowing religious structures to put you in a straight jacket.

Tammy being introvert is harmful to your development as a happy normal human being, let you hair down, go out and enjoy yourself, there are many stories in the bible where paties are held and wine drunk, and the gathering was joyful and merry.

I don,t know you Tammy but its a shame you seem to be holding onto the past and not moving forward, your far to nice a human being to creep into old age and not fulfill you your dream of being a lovely wife and and mother to your child.

Tammy 15 May 2004, 11:10

To the nameless poster, I don't want to flame you or anyone else, but I am just wondering what you mean when you say "Some people just don't get it?"

Electra 15 May 2004, 06:42

I love the Rusty Hinge because on my taskbar it doesn't alert my nosey boss that I'm in a chat room!

Wurm 15 May 2004, 03:07

I've never really liked the name "LensChat" all that much, so I was just experimenting a little.

Lurker 15 May 2004, 01:17

Earlier on I was lurking (and posting a bit) on LensChat, but I noticed the window was headed not 'Lenschat' but 'The Rusty Hinge'. Why?

LikeGlass 14 May 2004, 16:52

Ahhh... Little tech info:

ISP = Internet Service Provider

IP = (non routable sample, don't worry.)

The IP address is assigned by your ISP when you log in. It is the IP that would be blocked, for example meaning all users with values of 0 to 255 in the xxx region would be blocked, as the last few numbers change whenever you log in, but the first few would remain the same for any given ISP.

Now, back to glasses! ......

 14 May 2004, 10:24

The Silent One 13 May 2004, 21:36

Oh ;)

 13 May 2004, 21:05

its not the IP (intrenet provider) but your indvidual router number that gets blocked.

 13 May 2004, 18:19

some people just don't get it

Tammy 13 May 2004, 16:58

Yeah, i think The Silent One is right and that i have the same IP that someone who was banned did/does. I am sure that if i was banned, i would have recieved an e-mail from Wurm telling me that i was banned, and i recieved no such e-mail. Cheers, Tammy.

Eddy 13 May 2004, 14:40

A quiet word of support for our leader.

Wurm 13 May 2004, 04:29

That may be the price of having a place where everyone is free to fall down in public. Or make a useful contribution.

Hopefully we all get something out of it.

The loud one 13 May 2004, 04:03

there is nothing like trimming your toenails with a chainsaw, yea!

The Silent One 12 May 2004, 22:13

I doubt very much that Tammy was banned, I think it more likely she had the misfortune of having the same IP as someone who was. Think about it!

Tod 12 May 2004, 21:22

Tammy, you should have NEVER been baned. You are the most decent person here and probably any place else for that matter. Shame, Wurm

Tammy 12 May 2004, 20:49

Wurm, Thanks for lifting the IP blocks. I was beginning to wonder if i'd ever get to post with my new IP.

Wurm 12 May 2004, 19:30

I've lifted all IP blocks, as a gesture of "amnesty".

Please keep in mind that I can also block the privilege of reading the site, in addition to blocking posts. Thus far I haven't placed that type of block on any accounts, but I've considered it.

We've come this far without requiring passwords or user authentication. I strongly feel that keeping the site open encourages new users to take a chance on it.

Virtually all the users here are quite courteous -- at least most of the time. Thank you.

Eddy 29 Apr 2004, 19:43

Come on, give the poor guy a go. He's just a lonely boy looking for love (in ALL the wrong places). Chris, as I've suggested elsewhere, if you were to make the URL of his computer available to everybody, maybe we could reach out to him. All of us, that is.

Puffin 29 Apr 2004, 18:05

I am still not convinced by Sachin T, or whoever it is who is using his name.

First it was tons of junk posted here, abuse, telling us all we were all crazy people (maybe we are, but we are harmless crzy people)

Then it was suddenly, 'no, I like Glasses really, here's my website, Glasses full throttle' or whatever it was.

Oddly enough, not long after I accessed this site, I got a particularly nasty virus on my PC which forced me to buy another computer - I'm not blaming anyone, but I would not be surprised...

And then his namesake, or whoever he is, comes back and says some not too complimentary things about as again.

Slither back to Slytherin and leave us alone, please.

Wurm 29 Apr 2004, 17:51

Correct, that was not me.

Spexlovinguy 29 Apr 2004, 00:45

Looks like someone is pretending to be wurm. The real wurm does not make spelling errors and would never post the f* word in the 'What Turns You On About Glasses?' at about the same time as the post in this thread.

Wurm 29 Apr 2004, 00:17

Sahin T. is a good person...

Why sould I blocked his IP address? Someone else posting against his name. Earlier I have blocked the posting from Sachin T. But I allowed him to post again, since he really likes girls with glasses.

So please bare this situation. If you can't, please leave ES.



GWG Lover 29 Apr 2004, 00:12

Wurm, Sachin T. is so childish.... he is not matured. What can we do to him

Spexlovinguy 28 Apr 2004, 23:34

Wurm, can you please block Sachin T's IP address and prevent him from ever posting again? Some never grow up :(

Wurm 24 Apr 2004, 08:45

Hi Filthy,

I'm back in Portland now. Looking forward to another summer here, as there is always a lot to do and beautiful weather. Vancouver must be much the same.

Filthy McNasty 23 Apr 2004, 13:29

Hey Wurm, are you still in Portland or are you in Seattle? I think you moved back and forth but I lost track of where you ended up last.

Myhopeinhere 23 Apr 2004, 01:32

or was it 1999,no 1998 I think!

Myhopeinhere 23 Apr 2004, 01:30

Was just plodding through the postings and wondered how long I've been doing it,turns out it was Christmas 1998,and still get the same thrill reading the seen on the web posts,wondering if a new classic will appear,the sightings people have,and then realise I'm exactly the same,slightest flash of light from a distance and away I go!

The chats I've had with lots of people on here,what a great bunch,Aliena and Terri for their insights they give us,all in all what a great fun place this is for us all to follow our longings!

Here's to another six years of squinty eyed enjoyment!

 20 Apr 2004, 20:31


Tod 20 Apr 2004, 20:30

Its also a great title fro a movie about GwG's.

Sort of a take off on an old movie and play called 'Sex and the Single Girl'

Tod 20 Apr 2004, 20:28

Puffin, that's the whole idea!

D-W-V 20 Apr 2004, 19:25

How about a thread about retailers or opticians (same thing, basically), to complement the "online retailer" thread?

Puffin 20 Apr 2004, 06:03

I would think they might not stay single for long.

Tod 20 Apr 2004, 05:03

Wurm, I just thought of a new thread:


Eulburt 17 Apr 2004, 22:34

Philo ,

I m sorry that script does not work on mozilla 1.6 or below .

It works fine on Internet Explorer only .

I just added direct links at the bottom of the page . You may use it now .

Wurm 17 Apr 2004, 16:56

Philosofer, looks like some sort of script is in use at O4L. I get access to a sub-menu when I click the "Eyeglasses" link.

Clicking on the frame pictures mid-page seems to send you to the same areas as the sub-menu. Or you could try a different browser, I guess.

Philosifer 17 Apr 2004, 11:23


Have you tried the links on the Optical4 Less web site recently ?

The one (far left) that is meant to be used for purchasing a complete new pair of glasses doesn't seem to work for me ?

Bobby 07 Apr 2004, 07:05

The first (historical !) meeting of glassses fans in Europe took place on Saturday 3rd April 2004 in Brno, Czech Republic! The group was small, there were only three participants. Me (Bobby), Nekva, and Mike (who has never visited Eye Scene for he cannot speak English). We talked about glasses, wearing GOC, girls and guys with glasses, we discusses prices and various combinations of spherical and cylindrical diopters, prisms. The other topics were also: paraphilia generally, sexual orientation, different kinds of fetishes and ways how to bring more glasses fans into our national internet discussion group in Czech. Nekva brought his amazing collection of glasses and a testing set, so we also tested our eyes. We enjoyed the meeting so much that we forgot to have dinner. A thing that is almost unbelievable, as Czechs are known as big eaters. :-)

We hope next time we will have the chance to share our thoughts and ideas with our frineds from neighbouring countries too.

Tammy 27 Mar 2004, 16:32

Wurm, the chat is not refreshing right for me. Sometimes it takes 2 or 3 refreshes to get my posts on the board.

Bobby 27 Mar 2004, 14:52

Wurm, Andrew meant the other link of mine: http:/ This is the one with pictures and stories.

Wurm 25 Mar 2004, 14:41

Good suggestion Andrew -- I'll group links to the story sites on the front page.

Andrew 25 Mar 2004, 13:09

I respect the decision not to have too many stories on the site, but is it possible to increase the number of links to those who do do the stories, such as Bobby Laurel's. I have to keep looking back through the polls to find the address.

China-eyewear 23 Mar 2004, 23:31

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We are the leading manufacturer and exporter of eyewear optical frame , include memory-titanium frames, nickel silver ,reading glasses or sunglasses , any enquiry is welcomed!

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Tammy 23 Mar 2004, 19:51

Wow! I go on vacation for two weeks and Eyescene gets a sponser in my absence. Congratulations Wurm!

Puffin 23 Mar 2004, 06:32

I have to admit my stories are getting too long for Eyescene, that is why I started my own site up. However, I would like to see more stories on here, it seems a shame to lose it just because some idiots kept dumping rubbish here. I am convinced there is much more to say about glasses in story form, why can't we say it here?

Tammy 22 Mar 2004, 19:09

Hi Folks. Thanks for the birthday wishes everyone. Sorry this post is so late in coming. I've not been near a computer since my last post. I've been on vacation. :)

Michel 20 Mar 2004, 00:21

Hi, I search a story edited on an old forum (vision s forum maybe...). It was about a very myopic woman called Susan, but i m not sure. Her sight declining year after year and one day she can t wear her contacts. Her husband, Charles hate her glasses and he left her. If you find it, send me please at

Many thanks

An optic obsessive

Wurm 19 Mar 2004, 20:39

No, just personal preference. I don't have an affinity for hosting stories.

Rimshot 19 Mar 2004, 20:24


Is it a matter of space, or What?

Wurm 19 Mar 2004, 19:33

I'm gradually phasing out stories on this site. I enjoy reading many of them; I'm just not interested in hosting them. However, there are a few other sites accepting stories now.

Spexlovinguy 19 Mar 2004, 13:31

I agree with Aliena. Although I hardly ever comment on any story I really enjoy reading them. Now with stories cut in to several pieces I have to figure out the correct order first before I can start reading them.

Aliena 19 Mar 2004, 09:07

Dear Chris,

I think that it is too bad that you had to put a 600-word limit on the stories submitted to the fiction section of EyeScene. I understand that it was due to a single saboteur that posted long amounts of nonsense and disrupted things. I do think that the Fiction thread on EyeScene was a good feature and there were several interesting stories posted. I posted 3 myself. I also think that many people made favorable comments and there were several people that read the stories and probably enjoyed them, but did not comment. I just reread the story by Amy that was posted on "Fantasy Optical" and I then reread some others posted on the Fiction Thread. Being someone that has had to wear strong glasses all of my life, I thought the stories brought a sympathetic view to those of us in this category and also gave interest to many others.

It seems that something is now missing on EyeScene. Is it not possible to reopen the fiction section as it was before, with no word limits?

Best wishes,


Plus Crazy 18 Mar 2004, 17:23


Please don't use FLASH on this site. FLASH has become a big trouble on SMUDGE REPORT as it causes bugs when loading.

Bobby 18 Mar 2004, 14:37

Wurm I think the baner is on a good position, we will get used to seeing it and, of course, avoiding unwanted clicking on it soon. I clicked once, because I think we should click it sometimes to show the sponsor that their banner has got a kind of use.

I do not think I will ever use their servoces as it is quite easy for me to buy anything I want (I mean glasses and contacts) in a shop in my country.

Wurm 18 Mar 2004, 09:33

Thanks to everyone for your feedback.

It was tough to decide on placement of the banner on the discussion pages. I agree that it might be slightly confusing, but I went with it so that the positioning of the banner is fairly consistent with where I put it on the index pages. Hiding it at the top just wouldn't be as good for the sponsor.

Hopefully it will be easy for everyone to adapt to having the banner there. It wasn't my intent to harvest stray clicks, but I do see how it might happen.

PS - hey lynnie!

lynnie 17 Mar 2004, 13:55

Congrats on the sponsor , Wurm!

And welcome to the era of FLASH!

; >

Henry_c 17 Mar 2004, 11:46


A small banner annoying!! Compared to the myriad of advertising one is bombarded with at many websites this is nothing.

In any case it's a relevant sponsor and as you noted they will no doubt get some extra business this way.

This would also mean that Optical4Less is endorsed by this website.

gwgs 17 Mar 2004, 08:13

Whilst i can see the financial logistics of having a sponsor on here, the banner is cunningly placed near between the link to go the menu of all the latest threads and the "post to this thread" link.

I have nearly clicked on it a few times accidentally.

Whilst it is annoying having advertising on here, it is handy to have someone pay the bills.

Kenny xu 17 Mar 2004, 00:25

Tammy, Happy birthday to you !

I am sorry for the late wishes , because I am new here !!

Filthy McNasty 14 Mar 2004, 20:44

Hey Wurm, I'll send them business, fer shure. It'll payoff for them, I am pretty positive, before long. Thanks always to you for allowing me to express my weirdness among friends and other like-minded people. It has been invaluable in helping me to get it out of my system, or at least to find acceptable outlets for my fascination.

LikeGlass 14 Mar 2004, 18:34

Can't complain! Sponsor is on topic!


Wurm 14 Mar 2004, 18:27

Thank you very much, Val!

Coincidentally, we have reached another milestone. I am pleased to announce that Eye Scene has entered into a sponsorship relationship with

Please take a moment to check your browser on the front page -- -- as the O4L banner will soon be rolled out across most of the site.

Resources generously provided through this sponsorship will help make a needed web hosting upgrade possible, providing additional bandwidth for this fast-growing site.

Val 13 Mar 2004, 14:09

Another year has passed.

7 years of Eyescene.

Happy Birthday, Wurm !

And thank you for all the good times past and present.

 10 Mar 2004, 14:11


Tod 10 Mar 2004, 14:10

What we need all across this country is to have a web site of online virutal high school yearbook photos. It is also would be a great source of GwG photos too (Sush!)

I can think on no one better than Wurm to spearhead such a project. I am not sure where the funding would come from. Perhaps a government grant or a one time charge to a viewer via PayPa or something. Also any contributing high school may be a source of some of the funding and alumni assocations could get involved too. This would be for current and past graduating class yearbooks on record, of course.

Its something to think about.

Don  10 Mar 2004, 06:12

Happy Birthday Tammy sorry I'm a Day late.

Mike 09 Mar 2004, 20:45

A most happy and blessed birthday to you Tammy

Puffin 09 Mar 2004, 15:31

Dearest Tammy, I hope you have a lovely birthday. :)

UKoo 09 Mar 2004, 13:53

Happy birthday Tammy

Tod 09 Mar 2004, 12:14

Happy Birthday, Tammy!

Tammy 09 Mar 2004, 02:27

Bobby, thanks for the birthday wishes. I now am a year older than i was yesterday.

tortoise 08 Mar 2004, 21:48

Good words, Lucky. All the Best to you!

Lucky 08 Mar 2004, 21:33

I would like to say that the e/s is great! and I get a lot of info.about

glasses and the people who wear them.

thank you all.For I have always had a

little something for those choosen few

lovily ladys who wear glasses,and may

I end like this,There is someone out there for everyone so all please wear your glasses proudly and don,t hide in

contacts,for a guy like me or a women

just loves the way you look!

thank you


Bobby 07 Mar 2004, 16:45

Happy birthday, Tammy!

Tammy 07 Mar 2004, 14:13

Thanks. I should say that my birthday is March 9th.

Mike 07 Mar 2004, 12:51

And we all wish you a very happy , nice birthday!

Tammy 06 Mar 2004, 12:03

My birthday is coming up. I will be turning 39 years old.

Puffin 27 Feb 2004, 18:54

I am pleased to announce that I have just finished 'Dear Diary III', more adventures of Kirsty and her variously myopic family. It needs some editing and checking, but hopefully this weekend, I'll get it up on my site.

Now, however, it's way past my bedtime!



(PS, sorry in advance for the sad bits!)

tina 20 Feb 2004, 22:15

Great resource of information on eye care , check out


Tammy 15 Feb 2004, 12:36

Wurm, i don't know if this is a bug in the chat or something that only i am experiencing, but within the past week, the box where i type my post has been pulling a disappearing act on me alot. Could you look into it? Thanks, Tammy.

Stan 09 Feb 2004, 01:55

Ha Ha - "Decay to flaming" - That is very optimistic. It would probably consist mainly of flaming in the first five minutes! Anyway thanks for thinking about it & congrats on 1M page views.

Wurm 08 Feb 2004, 17:59

I appreciate your restraint, Stan and adalle. Self control is a great personal strength.

I think we'll do best sticking with the glasses discussions. I wouldn't want to try to maintain a free-for-all thread. Inevitably it would decay to flaming -- there are just too many volatile subjects that people are passionate about.

The chat area is a good place to run wild with discussion.

adalle 08 Feb 2004, 15:38

I totally agree with you. I too wanted to say some things about politics but i didn't want to f*** up the other threads.

I also want to answer to some people's comments during the American invasion in Iraq but i respected the threads.

Please do make an off topic thread.

Stan 08 Feb 2004, 07:28


Is there an "off topic" topic, for discussion of things that have nothing to do with the usual concerns of ES, the name "Out of Focus" comes to mind?

There has been some political nonsense in the "Seen on the Web" thread recently. While I don't usually like talking politics, it has me wondering about the political makeup of the denizens of EyeScene, but I don't want to cultivate off-topic discussion. We also have a number of regulars from outside the US and it is interesting to hear their opinions as well. I was just looking for a place to pursue these off-topic topics and didn't really see one.


Rockable 02 Feb 2004, 13:30

Wurm ,

Why don't you add to Eye Scene's link lists ? They are so hit .

Let's Rock !


Electra 01 Feb 2004, 16:51

WOW! Thanks Wurm! I'm honored! I update it almost daily due to the terrific feedback I'm getting.

Francine Eisner 01 Feb 2004, 12:21

Hi guys,

Where is there a links section? If there is, maybe you could add my newsgroup and another one about Vision Training, called "Vision Therapy," which was just started last November.

"Focus On Vision Training"


Wurm 01 Feb 2004, 11:57

Thanks Guido. I'll probably add Electra's site within the next few weeks. At that time I'll do some 'spring cleaning' of the other links.

Let me know if you have any other link suggestions, and I will have a look.

Guido 01 Feb 2004, 09:44


Let's start a new list of links. Some of the old ones are out of date. Now, if everyone contributed just one good link, I could avoid the Superbowl!

Bobby 29 Jan 2004, 16:24

I am very pleased to tell everybody, that the archive of the old versions of Eye Scene has been visited for many times during the recent 3 months. Herre is a little statistics for you:

November 2003: 582 visitors (aver. 19 visitors per day)

December 2003: 582 visitors (aver. 18 visitors per day)

January 2004: 622 visitors (average 24 visitors per day)

The archive URL of the archive is either


There is still some space at the site, so I think I will upload some stories written by people who frequent Eye Scene.

Puffin 20 Jan 2004, 14:36

I am pleased to say there will be a picture update next month on my site. That is if nothing else goes wrong!

Puffin 17 Jan 2004, 16:18

Just a note to my fans (that's if I have any!) that I've just started writing "Dear Diary III" (the further adventures of Kirsty and her family.

Electra 17 Jan 2004, 07:31

I've been told that only 5% of people who visit a messageboard post to it at any given time, that is, for every reply you get, there are another 19 people reading it who don't don't (I think I got that math right?). 19 lurkers to every 1 poster. Isn't that wild?

Francine Eisner 17 Jan 2004, 07:24

Yeah, Wurm, I find this one of the most interesting sites on the internet, given my interests. Keep it up...!



Spexlovinguy 16 Jan 2004, 21:28

For all of you thinking of starting your own website: is giving away 3 years (three years!) of free hosting with 500 mb diskspace! Only catch is you have to signup within the next 6 days and have an address in USA or Canada. I secured mine already. Anybody else?!

Wurm 13 Jan 2004, 07:08

I appreciate the kind words. Thanks to all of you for using the site!

still 12 Jan 2004, 20:25

Congrats, Wurm! Fabulous work!

Bobby 12 Jan 2004, 13:16

WOW! That’s great!!!!!

Tammy 11 Jan 2004, 19:08

Wurm, Congratulations on all of the page views! 1,000,000 Wow!

Wurm 11 Jan 2004, 18:45

Here's a statistic that seems worth mentioning:

In December, ES received over a million page views for the first time!

Puffin 07 Jan 2004, 03:57

I am just about back to normal apart from the software I use for morphs and ES. At the moment I am putting my thoughts toward the next installment of "Dear Diary".

Puffin 06 Jan 2004, 15:41


I have reactivated my old email address just for you, for a limited period only.

Ash 05 Jan 2004, 08:06

Hi LG,

Thanks for the information. This problem has been on for a few days, from the 31st to be precise. Since I was out of town for a couple of days, I did not get a chance to log on. Now that I am back, I see the same problem persisting. Any solutions in sight?

LikeGlass 05 Jan 2004, 07:46

Hi Ash. If you were blocked, it would probablly be site-wide, and as you are able to post here, that is not the case. Lens Chat uses an HTLM frames format which requires realtime updates off of the server. Some ISP's cue pages and this can cause the problem that you are discribing. When you post, the text file on the server is updated, and a new version of the page is sent. Often these problems are just bottle-necks that come and go on the internet. If it keeps up for a few days, then there is a problem.

Ash 05 Jan 2004, 06:28

Hi Wurm,

The 'Lens Chat' page on my browser is not refreshing and I can't even see what I post appear on the screen.

Have people become so sick of me being there all the time that it has been decided to block me ;-)?

Happy New Year to all,


Puffin 04 Jan 2004, 05:37

Aliena, I can't find your email address (I've lost loads of stuff because of the virus and transferring data.)

Puffin 03 Jan 2004, 04:28

I don't think I'll have to scrap my site. What I need to do is mirror what is there with what I have here, and the best way to do that is copy it. I have a website mass-copier so I'm in the middle of using it, and it looks good so far.

BTW all this trouble was caused by my old computer getting a virus. I then came to the obvious conclusion that my old computer wasn't fast enough to run the modern software around now, so even if I got rid of the virus I couldn't defend it against future attacks.

OMG this last 2 weeks have been a real pain sorting all this out and having Christmas in the middle of it all.

Puffin 03 Jan 2004, 04:05

Sorry, I have had to delete my previous email addresses, they are just filling up with spam all the time.

At this moment I don't have a personal email address.

Eric 02 Jan 2004, 23:57

Hi Aliena,hows the college life going?

Aliena 02 Jan 2004, 18:04

Puffin, your e-mail address also seems to be out of commission. I just tried to send you a message and it was returned, unknown. What gives?

Puffin 02 Jan 2004, 05:43

I think I'm going to have to scrap my website and start again. I have upgraded my computer and transferred all the files across, but the file names have all been truncated to 8 characters. eg "Lana17~1" or something. Of course, my webpages of which there are plenty refer to the original file names. Oh yeah my computer is a bit strange about file extensions too. Or maybe the old one was and the new one isn't, even so that's another little problem.

This doesn't affect the existing website, but at the moment it's going to be a lot of sorting out and renaming files and pics this end before I can update my site. Or else I can scrap what's on the net at the moment and gradually rebuild it.

Oh, I'm not looking forward to this job.

still 01 Jan 2004, 07:50

Happy New Year, everyone! May this year be sweet and healthy, and may all your fantasies be fulfilled.

Tony (original) 30 Dec 2003, 16:49

Another year for me visiting this site.

Compliments of the season to one and all.



Puffin 30 Dec 2003, 16:40

Just in case anyone is wondering where I've been, I'm in the middle of upgrading my computer. I thought I'd lost all my pics and stories, a nightmare for me, but today I've got them back.

See you soon.

Old Lurker 15 Dec 2003, 12:37

i have been lurking and reading this website for many years now and have seen the different versions that have worked and not worked. It seems to me that last time we went to a password system, the number of postings dropped off dramatically and the board became boring very quickly. Yes, the fakes were gone, but so was the fun.

The question that we must ask is how important is it to have names anyway? As Bob points out, they will all be fake ones. And I'm sure there are alot of people pretending to be others out there, but what's the harm? You should come to expect that on the Internet. I don't care if someone makes up an exciting situation that we all enjoy because that's what makes this site fun. Are they really telling the truth?

Bottom line: If you make a formal registration process, you will lose users again. It happened before, it will happen again.

Julian 15 Dec 2003, 00:58

Bob: the system on the previous EyeScene BBS was that you could post without registering, but under your name was the word 'unregistered'. Other possibilities were 'junior member', 'member', 'moderator' and 'administrator' (that was Wurm as we now call him).

That meant that you could tell whether a post in the name of a registered member, and that was most of the regulars, was genuine. I don't think it worked in the chat though, but no doubt something could be done about that. I dread the thought of another re-hash though, with possible loss of all the posts!

Love and kisses, Jules.

Bob 14 Dec 2003, 21:31

I think having to use a password to use this site would be a mistake. For one thing, I am not organized enough to keep up with one more user name and password.

Second, I have always thought some of the most interesting posts were from people who accidentally stumbled on this site who shared their experiences and feelings about wearing glasses. Most of them would not fool with trying to set up a user name and password. I know some of these posts have probably been fakes, but I don't understand why anyone would care.

This is the Internet. Nothing is real here. None of us are using our real names and for all anyone knows we could all be bored 72-year-old women making it all up.

I think if you set it up with passwords and user names, you are going to end up with a click of about 20 serious glasses geeks, but lose just about everybody else. I think the site will soon lose much of what to me makes it fun.

Tammy 14 Dec 2003, 17:59

High Myope, Ok, sounds good! Tammy.

High Myope 14 Dec 2003, 11:37

Tammy: I was the aggrieved party, and as I have forgiven you I think it behooves bystanders and lurkers to forgive also. Should we be on in the chat room at the same time, I would certainly chat with you.

Julian 14 Dec 2003, 11:29

Why ever not? (I have seen the recent chat.) And the fact that you admit you need forgiving says more about what your religion is really worth than anything else.

Love and kisses, Jules.

Tammy 14 Dec 2003, 10:49

I have a quick question; Is anyone going to forgive me enough to want to chat with me again? I know there's still some people on this website who are willing to chat with me still. I thank those who are still speaking to me!

Tammy 14 Dec 2003, 10:45

Tod, yes i did..i had to, since the test is very expensive and i am still without insurance. Hopefully my insurance coverage will start back up here pretty soon! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too!

Tod 13 Dec 2003, 19:51

Hi Tammy. I see you postponed your florescein angiogram test until mid January. Have a happy Christmas and New Year.

Tammy 13 Dec 2003, 16:39

High Myope, Thank you!

High Myope 13 Dec 2003, 15:59

Tammy -- I forgive you as I know you were not yourself. Let's start fresh.

Tammy 13 Dec 2003, 09:50

This has no bearing on my previous post, but i was in the chat a couple days ago, and really got upset by what was said by one particular party, and what i said should never have been said! I would like to apologize to all whom were offended by what proceeded to come out of my mouth. I never should have said what i did. Please forgive me!

Electra 13 Dec 2003, 06:31

I'll second it too Tammy. I'd like to have a facility where we register, anonymously to the public obviously, with a password, and have to use THAT password to get our "Handle" show up. For me it's sheer laziness actually, save me typing in my name for every post:)

Julian 13 Dec 2003, 06:25

With you all the way, Tammy.

Love and kisses, Jules.

Tammy 13 Dec 2003, 06:19

Wurm, Quite some time back, when you first moved ES to Laughingsquid, you asked us to tell you which features of the old Eyescene we would like you to instill in the new one. I recently thought of one. I'm sure this will be met by opposition, but i hope that we can keep the flaming of this post to zero, but i feel that we should have to register our names that we use on the threads and also on the chat, since there are so many imposters these days, and also some of the NoNames that come around are really rude. I'm not saying that all of them are, but only some of them. I feel that this feature would get rid of the imposters and the spamming of the boards and the chat. Just think about it, ok? Thanks, Tammy.

Francine 29 Nov 2003, 19:37

I am wondering if this group has been spammed by a guy named Sachin T, who now has a newsgroup about girls with glasses. He spammed my VT group, and wouldn't stop, and I had to ban him...the only time I've had to ban anyone.

Is he a known menace around here or something? Of course I don't care if he likes GWG or not...that's his business. But spamming is everyone's business, don't you think? We ALL hate it.


Electra 22 Nov 2003, 09:04

Do I just frequent the quietest threads here or had this board been really quiet lately?

specs4ever 19 Nov 2003, 17:53

you can try me at

HyperSpecs 19 Nov 2003, 13:17

Specs4ever, what is your email address?

Pippa 19 Nov 2003, 05:53

I feel I must comment on myopia during pregnancies. My sister-in-law had perfect vision until she was 4 months pregnant with my nephew and her vision started to get worse, (she was 19), when she was 5 months pregnant she had to get herself some glasses (sorry, don't know what the rx was),she has worn glasses ever since. I asked her whether she blamed her eyesight problems on her pregnancy and she said yes, her optometrist told her that pregnancy can affect a woman's eyesight. She also said that it deteriorated with her second pregnancy. Maybe if affects different people in different ways.

Oscar 18 Nov 2003, 00:43

Andy - I know it's a tragic story, but some more pics of this remarkable woman would be great to see if you've got the time to post them.

Andy 17 Nov 2003, 22:44

Oscar, she wanted the abortion because her eyedoc has warned her not to have the baby because of the serious risc to become blind. There is another sequence of her showing her only from farer away and from behind. I can grab those pictures, too if you want.

tortoise 17 Nov 2003, 18:27

God!..... in 06 you can see the tears in her eyes! Wonderful and very moving pics, Andy. Thanks.

LikeGlass 17 Nov 2003, 11:40

Afternote on progression during Preg. My sister tacked on a diopter during her first one, and it never went away. (22 years ago.)

Oscar 17 Nov 2003, 09:45

Andy - just one other question about this very striking young woman (to me she's beautiful - and it's only a pity that the programme was on a subject where it would be unlikely to see her smile) - did she want the abortion because of fears for her own sight (i.e. becoming blind) or for the baby's? I'm assuming you saw the programme. The website for the TV company seem to have almost all of yesterday's broadcasts archived except this one - how frustrating...

Oscar 17 Nov 2003, 07:30

Andy - thanks so much for that that link to your downloads. What's the prognosis for Alicja's myopia now (presumably she's had the baby?)

Andy 17 Nov 2003, 04:53

Sorry I forgot to mention that they also said that her prescription was -25D.

Andy 17 Nov 2003, 04:50

Puffin, S4E, Lore, Yesterday there was a report on TV about abortion on in Poland. They had an interview with a young mother who had a big increase in myopia during pregnancy. Her doctor refused an abortion against her eye doctors advice. I have some screencaps of her under: There are several more pictures if you change the number in the file name from 01 up to 07. I try to find out more.


Puffin 17 Nov 2003, 03:10

I have heard about women losing the ability to wear contacts during pregnancy. And some other weird things too.

specs4ever 16 Nov 2003, 19:26

Well Lore, since it was suggested by Susan back in 2000 that she had huge increases in myopia during pregnancy, I felt compelled to do some research. I definately found a number of cases where already myopic ladies had to get much stronger prescriptions during pregnancies. So, I felt that this was something I could use in some of my stories. I am afraid that I can't accept your statement as fact in this case. The only rule in myopia progression is that there are no rules.

Lore 15 Nov 2003, 20:22

Susan's story was not true. Women do not have huge increases in myopia while pregnant; it is something that does not happen. It *is* true that acuity decreases while you are pregnant and/or nursing, but that is due to hormonal changes and acuity returns, in all cases, when the pregnancy and/or nursing stops. The only exception I can imagine to that is if someone's eyesight was still changing anyway, in which case acuity would not return, as it would not have if the person weren't pregnant, but the change would not be any more rapid.

I'm pregnant, so I've been doing a lot of reading on pregnancy, and this is an issue that actually comes up a lot. Slight decreases in acuity are totally normal, as are problems wearing contacts, but there is simply no way that pregnancy can result in a permanent increase in myopia.

A nice detail in the story, but the work of fiction (no doubt by a male author). Just as there are no doubt tons of English headmasters of old who wore thick glasses, some of whom no doubt abused children.

specs4ever 15 Nov 2003, 19:37

Susan's story was proported to be more truth than fiction, with only the identifying details changed. At the time I must say that I believed the story, although the high increases in myopia with the birth of each child did sound a bit of a stretch. I was one who corresponded with Susan, and even in off the web e mails her story rang true, so I think that the discovery of the pedophile headmaster might just confirm it.

LikeGlass 15 Nov 2003, 19:22

Wow. I remember that story well. I remember thinking at the time that it had an awful lot of detail and length to be fiction, so it would have had to be either written by a fake with a super imagination, or, someone who was real .......

I forget if there was any follow-up on it.

AJ 15 Nov 2003, 15:29

I also remember this story and I thought it did have a ring to it that seemed to be somthing more than fiction. I actually don't remember it being posted under the fiction stories.

chrisb 15 Nov 2003, 15:11

Stranger than Fiction?

Some old timers around here may remember, about 2 years ago, a lady posted under the name of Susan (I think) a story which she said was part fact and part fiction. It related her married life as someone with progressive myopia but with a husband who was pathologically unable to accept that she wore glasses. He would only allow her to wear contacts, and was violent towards her. One of her children was also mypic. Eventually she had left her husband and gone to live with her GWG girlfriend; her sight had deteriorated further and she needed myodisks. The denouement of the story was that 'Charles' her husband had been abused at Prep school (9 - 13 year olds) by the headmaster, who wore thick glasses.

In todays Daily Telegraph there is a half page story about a retired headmaster of a prep school who is accused of abuse by a number of former pupils. There, staring out of the paper is a picture of the man with thick heavy framed glasses. Could it be Susan's fiction was more fact than she was able to say.

LikeGlass 07 Nov 2003, 06:22

Just click on the Who's Who link on my site for adding your name. (about half way down. )

where it says "want to join our list"

Electra 07 Nov 2003, 05:29

Oh can I be on your site? I know I don't post as often as I ought to, but I have a busy job! How do I get an entry in the Who's Who?

LikeGlass 03 Nov 2003, 06:52

Thank you for pointing that out. Awhile back, the site was lost and I rebuilt it out of backups. There is a page 13, so the book index must have been an older copy that overwrote the new page. If you go to page 12 and alter the link to a 13, it is there. The question is, was anyone lost off of page 12 ! I will check it out later this week and correct the index.

Gremlin 02 Nov 2003, 20:30


What happened to the previous Page 13 of the Who's Who? Unless I'm missing something, the last version of the roster seemed to be more currrent and inclusive than this new one.

LikeGlass 02 Nov 2003, 18:04

Finally updated the Who's Who book! I think we have our full cast of characters, at least for the second.

If you want a little more info on our chatters here and on Lens Chat, this is where to look them up.

(Scroll down to "Who's Who")

Wurm 24 Oct 2003, 19:49

Posts are now limited in length. I've set a somewhat arbitrary limit of around 600 words. This should accomodate all normal discussion-type posts.

Francine 16 Oct 2003, 12:36

Hi Lentifan,

>Francine, you shouldn't be too >discouraged if the response from >this site to your Vision Training >thread is not overwhelming.

You know...I'm not discouraged. I like to convey useful information, and I'm not surprised if people don't want to try Vision Training. It is actually pretty difficult to master even for people who ARE interested.

I was pleased to answer some questions last May, and it didn't bother me that no one seemed very interested afterward.

What I really dislike is rudeness and disrespect, and that is what is going on in the "Vision Training" thread as of late.

>I think it is best to ignore the >rudeness; being seen to be irked by >it only encourages them.

You're right. The rude people are behaving like trolls, and everyone says that you shouldn't feed the trolls, as this makes them grow, LOL.

>In a site of the diversity of this one >(thank to Wurm, to whom we all >owe a debt of gratitude) there will >always be threads which we >disagree with or are not interested >in. We should put our case >rationally and politely or just don't >go there.

I am also grateful to "Wurm." I think that "Eyescene" is a valuable bulletin board for a number of reasons.

>Personally, I am not interested in >the 'Actors' or 'Guys in Glasses', but >I don't question the right of thoses >who ARE interested to have those >threads. I just don't go there.

I don't go there either, but I actually MIGHT be interested. That is...if they have any pictures of Steven Bauer wearing glasses. Pretty darn cute, if you ask me...



lentifan 16 Oct 2003, 04:03

Francine, you shouldn't be too discouraged if the response from this site to your Vision Training thread is not overwhelming. Although I don't know, I suspect that most readers of this site, if not fully-fledged OOs, are at least pleased and enthusiastic about glasses. Therefore most of them are probably at least content with their level of vision, and on balance probably more of them would prefer to increase their reliance on glasses rather than reduce it.

Having said that, I, for one, would deplore it if you felt you were being chased away. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion if expressed fairly. There is no excuse for rudeness, and I, too have noticed a degree of intolerance in some of the postings, eg on the subject of 'fakes' which seems to trigger a sort of paranoia in some people. I think it is best to ignore the rudeness; being seen to be irked by it only encourages them.

In a site of the diversity of this one (thank to Wurm, to whom we all owe a debt of gratitude) there will always be threads which we disagree with or are not interested in. We should put our case rationally and politely or just don't go there. Personally, I am not interested in the 'Actors' or 'Guys in Glasses', but I don't question the right of thoses who ARE interested to have those threads. I just don't go there.

Now that I've got that off my chest I realise I sound like a pompous pratt.

Francine 15 Oct 2003, 21:16

Hi Specs,

Of course I agree with you. I know that Vision Training is a bit of a departure for this board, but I hope that the thread is going to continue and that Wurm will find a way to put it back on track.

I am pretty busy these days but I like to post about VT, as I feel that it should at least be offered as an OPTION to people. Most people don't even know about it. There is a weird turf war between ophthalmologists and optometrists, and this keeps the info from being freeing disseminated. Some people HAVE to wear glasses, as their best corrected VA isn't even anything close to 20/20. Glasses are a valuable aid to millions of people. A lot of folks in third-world countries don't have access to glasses, and I've heard of specific charities that give out free glasses all over the world to impoverished people.

It's a funny thing, too: The origin of most refractive disorders is actually a mystery. There are all sorts of theories about the etiology of myopia, for example, but they really are just educated guesses. The eyeball is not even enlongated in all cases.

Vision, like the other senses, is to me sort of a miracle. How we perceive the world that's out there...What subject could be more exciting?



specs4ever 15 Oct 2003, 21:00

If this is to be a board about "Eyes", I think that the subject of vision training is an important part. I for one support what you are trying to do Francine, and I am sorry that there are a few ignoramusses around. Unfortunately, that is life in the real world these days, so there isn't much one can do except to just carry on as best as we can, and ignore these people. As much as I am a fan of people who wear glasses, I also realize that many of these same people don't want to wear glasses, and if vision training can help, as it has been proven to do in many cases, I say that people should go for it. It seems to me far more sensible to attempt to correct your vision than to undergo lasik to correct a problem with surgery.

Francine 15 Oct 2003, 20:53

Hi guys,

I originally found this site because someone on another board told me it was really interesting. I think he found the desire of some people to INDUCE myopia fascinating and bizarre.

I came to look and found myself posting about Vision Training, a time-tested form of vision improvement. "Wurm" (the moderator, I guess) was kind enough to put up a separate Vision Training thread for people who are interested in the subject.

I realize that "Eyescene" is mostly a board about wearing glasses and loving it. There will probably always be eyeglasses, and people who enjoy wearing them, unless someone invents a a chip or some nanotechnology that makes this all obsolete. Vision Training is pretty challenging, and I've never thought it was for everyone. Far from it.

Why am I posting here? I just found out that there was a feedback thread, and I would like some feedback from you all. "Vision Training" was started last May, and it is not the most active of threads but I thought the questions asked have been relevant, and the information presented to be accurate and useful. In other words, it has been a valuable resource for people who have less than perfect eyesight, just like the rest of this board.

Recently a couple of members have been, IMO, totally disrespecting the purpose of the Vision Training thread. They have been posting the usual stuff there, like Rx and how much they like wearing glasses, etc. This is fine on other threads, but totally OT on "Vision Training." I asked them to take their OT postings to the other threads, and the response was total rudeness. This kind of response really irks me...I wonder why. <sigh>

This is why: I know from personal experience that if a bulletin board thread is allowed to go totally OT, it becomes totally useless. How do you guys feel about this? Do you feel that having a thread about Vision Training is useful? Should it be allowed to be thrown totally OT, or does it deserve some measure of respect and integrity?

How would it be if the fiction section was full of general postings about Rx ? Or if the thread about good_looking girls with glasses had pleas for info about glasses for 3-year-old hyperopes? The board would be a mess: Total chaos. Why would anyone like that to happen...? I'm sure that "Wurm" would like your opinions on this as well.

Of course I am not exactly unbiased, as Vision Training is a pet subject of mine. So I feel like this is something being done to ME. But generally speaking, taking a thread way OT, and insisting on keeping it there...WELL, I think it's just destructiveness. Vandalism, pure and simple.



Julian 29 Sep 2003, 00:40

Shouldn't worry if I were you tortoise. It's hardly reached nuisance proportions; they may even take the hint!

Love and kisses, Jules.

tortoise 28 Sep 2003, 17:17

Julian, The more I think about it the more I see that you may be right about this. I did say to the administrator of optical4less that I would be recommending his service to an online discussion group about vision etc.

My thinking at the time was that I didn't want him to think it odd if a sudden influx of high Rx orders came in. I didn't mention Eyescene but it doesn't take long to get here via Google as we know. If I have inadvertantly caused a problem I do apologise. Having said that, the fact remains that my whole experience purchasing glasses from this outlet was genuinely positive and I did want to share that with everyone here.

Cheers......... tortoise

Julian 28 Sep 2003, 12:57

How nice to have so many new posters coming on to tell us about their good experiences in dealing with optical4less. It's good to hear of a new firm that provides an efficient and cheap online service. Unless, of course, we (and eBay) are being subtly spammed.

Love and kisses, Jules.

Nikki 18 Sep 2003, 23:38

WHoops!....Lynnie, that NN was me that posted that, I saw what went down and just thought I would be smart...sorry!

Lurker 18 Sep 2003, 23:06

'Jasmine Rose' is back on LensChat now.

lynnie 18 Sep 2003, 23:02

S4E, that person WAS Sachin, after we all left he posted this:

(10:59pm) NoName sez, "gonna pick another name ;)"

Wurm, can you notify his ISP? I cut and pasted some of his drivel if you need it.

specs4ever 18 Sep 2003, 21:45

Hey Wurm - is there any way you can restrict that jerk sachin T's access to lens chat. He got really ticked off tonight and filled lens chat with a whole bunch of the same stuff he was putting on Eyescene. It is too bad that some infants can't understand the consequences of their actions. It seems likely that no one has ever told him no in his life.

Tammy 17 Sep 2003, 06:35

Yeah, please don't give him any ideas! My chat name is Rambling Rose, but as long as we are confessing things, i'm not really a rose.

Puffin 17 Sep 2003, 04:15

Sorry I forgot to tell you all, I'm a fake too. I'm not really a Puffin. (does it matter?)

Frank 17 Sep 2003, 03:35

Glad to see that Sachin T

Has not prospered - and Emily

Is back in the place where she

Can still shine bright and pithily

By the way - Sachin Tendulkar is one the greatest cricketers that ever lived - still batting for India -but I doubt it was he polluting with goobledegook

Julian 17 Sep 2003, 01:24

What I can't understand is that he confines himself to that one thread - maybe I shouldn't say that for fear of giving him ideas!

Love and kisses, Jules.

Puffin 17 Sep 2003, 00:50

This site does have a worm on it, and it's the one who keeps posting all that stuff on the "Nearsighted Diary" page.

Tammy 16 Sep 2003, 11:11

Emily, if this site has a "Worm" on it, we'd all better virus scan our computers! :-)

Emily 15 Sep 2003, 16:33

Sorry, I meant Wurm. No disrespect intended.

Emily 15 Sep 2003, 16:32

Someone named Sachin T. buried my Diary of a Nearsighted Girl under hundreds of pages of computer gobbledygook. Worm, can you remove all that garbage so people can find the diary? Thanks.

specs4ever 04 Sep 2003, 20:24

Yes, it works Wurm, but not worth using it. There has to be something I can do to fix it, so I will investigate further when I have time

Wurm 04 Sep 2003, 17:24

You should be able to post from the non-framed page, although it's a bit clunky.

Load up the post form as a single page, make a post, and you'll see the set-up:

specs4ever 04 Sep 2003, 16:34

Yes, thats what's happeniing likesglass. I checked my internet options, but couldn't find anythuing about supporting frames. I think this has mostly happened since I downloaded IE6.0

LikeGlass 04 Sep 2003, 12:00

Lens chat works in frames. (Ha Ha, but true) The upper frame contains the chat data, and the lower one contains the post code. (Basically) If for some reason, your browser is not supporting "frames" then you will only get the one window. For some reason, this sounds like what is happening. You ma want to peek at your browser settings, or maybe Wurm could add something to this thought.

Tammy 04 Sep 2003, 09:14

S4E, Do you simply get an error message for the sign in part that says something to the effect of Page not found? If you do, then i've gotten it alot too.

Lurker 03 Sep 2003, 23:11

No, no problem.

specs4ever 03 Sep 2003, 22:30

I am unable to sign in to Lens Chat. I get the lens chat page, but I don't get the part that allows you to sign in and post anything. Anyone else have this problem?

LikeGlass 01 Sep 2003, 14:41


If you want I can set up a page at TGWG for your story.

There is a section for stand-alone projects.

Emily 31 Aug 2003, 13:53

Hi -- I have written a long piece that I would post under "Fantasy Optical" except it's very long. Can you create a new thread for it, please? Call it "Diary of a Nearsighted Girl." Thanks.

Electra 31 Aug 2003, 06:33

Eddy! Me and Julian wish to complain! IT'S ALL GIRLS!

Electra 31 Aug 2003, 06:30

Can I whine about the popularity of plastic frames?

Val 19 Aug 2003, 22:32

We reached already topic #99. Maybe topic #100 should be something special. Can anybody come with some ideas ?

Pinkspecs 19 Aug 2003, 13:43


Why not join my yahoo groups.

Nancy 19 Aug 2003, 07:06


I know it has been mentioned before, and is out of topic, but is there a thread where some of us can discuss HAs?

Julian 15 Aug 2003, 22:41

Don't they?

Myodisc 15 Aug 2003, 17:58

Hi everyone

Why doesn't any of